Currie Cup latest (Tues)
21 Sep 2010
Keo.co.za brings you the news from the Currie Cup.
Cheetahs change two
Naka Drotske has opted to start Riaan Smit at fullback and WP Nel at prop against the Pumas.
Nel replaces Kobus Calldo while Smit comes in for Hennie Daniller. Daniller is being rested after playing every Currie Cup game to date.
Cheetahs – 15 Riaan Smit, 14 Philip Snyman, 13 Robert Ebersohn, 12 Meyer Bosman, 11 Jongi Nokwe, 10 Louis Strydom, 9 Tewis de Bruyn, 8 Ashley Johnson, 7 Philip Van der Walt, 6 Hendro Scholtz, 5 David de Villiers, 4 Francois Uys, 3 WP Nel , 2 Adriaan Strauss (c), 1 Coenie Oosthuizen.
Subs: 16 Skipper Badenhorst, 17 Kobus Calldo, 18 Izak van der Westhuizen, 19 Kabamba Floors, 20 Tertius Carse, 21 Sias Ebersohn, 22 Corné Uys.
Basson’s a Bull
Bjorn Basson has signed a new deal with the Bulls which starts from 1 November.
The Springbok wing was committed to Griquas and the Cheetahs until the end of 2011 but the Bulls paid a transfer fee to get the player released from his contract. Griquas CEO Arni van Rooyen confirmed the move on Tuesday but refused to reveal the amount paid for the player.
Botha ready to rumble
Gary Botha has recovered from a head knock and will be available for the Bulls this weekend.
The Bulls skipper as well as lock Fudge Mabeta have been cleared for the game against the Leopards. Flank Deon Stegmann will undergo a fitness test on Tuesday, and could well feature in Potchefstroom.
Province lose Liebenberg
Tiaan Liebenberg will play no further part in the Currie Cup.
The WP hooker injured his ankle against the Cheetahs three weeks ago and coach Allister Coetzee is not expecting him back any time soon. Liebenberg’s injury was supposed to sideline him for six weeks, but WP management have confirmed he won’t be fit for the play-offs.
Back-up flyhalf Lionel Cronje missed last week’s game with a hamstring problem, and won’t be risked against Griquas this Friday.
Black players don’t want quotas
Sarpa chief executive Piet Heymans says Saru should consider changes to its competition structures to ensure that promising black players don’t disappear between U21 and senior level.
‘The players’ position is that they want equal opportunities. If they are good enough, they want to play. No player wants to be viewed as a quota player and everybody wants to be there on merit. Black players are not in favour of quotas. Their plea is for equal playing opportunities and game time,’ said Heymans.
‘Saru should be creative with the competition structures and see if there is a way of making the transition from junior to senior level easier. The bigger provinces should also be more willing to loan players they aren’t using to smaller provinces. It is happening already, but the system can be utilised even better.’
The Vodacom Cup will still be played next year, but an age limit may be applied from 2012 onwards. One possibility is to make it an U23 competition, while there is also a school of thought that it should make way for a super club competition.
Heymans said it is wrong for Saru to criticise the provinces without doing something about it.
‘As governing body of rugby, Saru have the ability to do something about the [transformation] issue. The question is just whether the leadership is strong enough to really do something about it.’
WP’s timing spot on
Allister Coetzee believes Western Province are building momentum at the perfect time.
Province suffered a mid-season slump when they lost three consecutive matches against the Sharks, Cheetahs and Lions.
However, with three rounds remaining before the play-offs, WP have won their last two games against the Leopards (59-17) and Pumas (62-10) comfortably and displayed the kind of form they had during their six-match winning streak at the start of the season. They are currently second on the log with 38 points.
‘Things are coming together nicely for us and it is especially important at this time of the season,’ said Coetzee. ‘This is the period when you want to be playing well and putting good performances together.
‘We face three tough games now [against Griquas, the Bulls and Sharks] before hopefully we go into the play-offs, so this is the time when we need to step up our performance.’
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21 Sep 2010, 08:49 am
@Izwe Lethu(Koos van der merwe)-45: Just because the Lions were pi$$poor the last couple of years, doesn’t mean our coaches are! We’ve got decent coaches in this country. Heinecke, Alistair, Rassie, Frans… All guys that can step up after PDivvy’s looming departure.
21 Sep 2010, 08:50 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-48: Both the Ndunganes have played for the Boks, and one of them has one two Super titles. Pretorius has functioned well in the Bulls set up – 3 Super titles isn’t bad.
There have been some failures – Lobberts springs to mind – but you can’t win them all.
21 Sep 2010, 08:50 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-48: If you call winning Superrugby and CC titles failures, then yes!
21 Sep 2010, 08:50 am
“According to the charge sheet, Montgomery had “put pressure on his wife’s leg” and “hit at her”. The couple later said that no-one was hurt or hit.”
21 Sep 2010, 08:52 am
@Izwe Lethu(Koos van der merwe)-45: I agree. But with Tonderai back from injury and Killian’s current form, the Lions are pretty sorted for wings. Still, we could have used Basson. I also feel the Lions are short one more lock (we should have put some cash on the table for Juandre Kruger) and a hooker (Deon Fourie would have been another good buy).
21 Sep 2010, 08:54 am
@WOLFMAN21(WOLFMAN21)-42:
Had Basson come to WP, he would’ve started at 14, because De Jongh is a CENTRE and Aplon will start at 15.
21 Sep 2010, 08:54 am
@katman(katman)-55: You guys are short in the following catergories: Hooker, Prop, Lock, loose forwards(2) centers, wings and fullback!
You have a scrummy, flyhalf and Wikus.
21 Sep 2010, 08:55 am
@Tegejo(Tegejo)-57: Sorry, and a good coach!
21 Sep 2010, 08:55 am
@katman(katman)-55:
Hehehehe!
“Lions could have used Basson”.
Hehehehe!
Katman, didn’t you read? The BIG unions were chasing Basson. On what conceivable basis can you even fantasize about the Lions having the opportunity to sign him?
That’s like saying Boland would have found Bassons’ services quite useful. Sure they would, but that doesn’t mean that there was ever actually a chance that he would play for them.
Hehehe. Classic.
Lions fans already losing perspective, I see.
21 Sep 2010, 08:56 am
@Frankly speaking(Frankly speaking)-56: He wants to win trophies. Hence, a very good move!
21 Sep 2010, 08:56 am
“She said that she would like to be an inspiration to other women (Wynand Olivier) and encourage them to look after their bodies and stay fit and healthy.”
21 Sep 2010, 08:57 am
i think the Bulls were convinced on Basson after he skinned Lambie in their first encounter with the Sharks, he made a doos of him twice. All the best Bjorn!
21 Sep 2010, 08:57 am
@Tacitus(Tacitus)-59: On fire! Lovin’ it!
21 Sep 2010, 08:58 am
So basically there is only there big Unions
1. WP
2. North Gauteng
3. Cheetahs/Sharks
21 Sep 2010, 08:59 am
@Tacitus(Tacitus)-59: You seem to forget that only a dodgy yellow card for a chest high tackle from behind by van Heerden prevented a loss for your gaggle of smurfs on their beloved home turf three days ago. So I guess that’s puts your lot firmly outside the “big unions” too then.
21 Sep 2010, 08:59 am
I see Mark and Jake divorced. Winning ways LOL , the joke of the year , see what a decent coach did for the Lions. See Below article if you have not heard of it yet. The Lions management should be fined for wasting money on this ****.
A lucrative business deal involving former Springbok coach Jake White, Highbury Safika Media and rugby writer Mark Keohane has turned sour and ended up in the Western Cape High Court.
On Monday Highbury and Keohane applied to place the joint sports venture they had launched with White under provisional liquidation.
In papers before the court Keohane, who is employed by Highbury Safika as its publishing director, said that the application was in fact a “last resort” after “every endeavour to resolve the dispute” over the joint company, Jake White’s Winning Way (PTY) Ltd, of which they are all shareholders.
Former Wallabies coach, Eddie Jones, who was to assist White with the company, has also been listed as a shareholder. The dispute, said Keohane, has since seen the shareholders reach “deadlock”, particularly over the division of shares and other monetary matters.
Continues Below ?
The papers say that there is “no prospect” of it ever being resolved.
Keohane said that both he and White had agreed that there was a lack of coaching of coaches in the country, especially at schools level and White felt he was an “outstanding identifier” of talent at junior level.
“(White) felt this could be maximised by virtue of a player agency in which the youngster’s future could be guided professionally by White and (Highbury), with White providing the rugby intellectual capital and (Highbury) the business expertise, both from an intellectual point of view and because of access to existing resource,” he said.
Keohane said because White had won the World Cup, he had suggested that the company be called “Jake White’s Winning Way”.
It was White who wanted to bring Jones on board, said Keohane, where Jones’ involvement would be beyond a consultancy level as their intention had always been to “explore the Japanese emerging rugby market” as the country was due to host the Rugby World Cup in 2019.
Highbury would “finance the working capital requirements ? until the (company)
21 Sep 2010, 08:59 am
If you look at things properly and realistically,SA with its player resources should be dominating Tri Nations and Superrugby,but no,we are dominated by countries with limited resources.Anyone who was doubting just how k.ak Ludicrous is can see now,he was aided by his player pool,why is it that only the Bulls are struggling?its because they have a rubbish coach who also happened to coach the very same Lions who are being ressurected by a New Zealander.Am I the only one who questioned why Ludeke was given the Bulls coaching post?NO,he is gonna coach the Bulls back to the bottom of the Super Rugby doldrums.
21 Sep 2010, 09:00 am
@Frankly speaking(Frankly speaking)-56: The Stormers have a major balancing act next year with players such as de Jongh. Is he going to be happy sat on the bench behind Fourie and de Villiers? It is World Cup year after all, and he is in with a shot of making the squad, although only if he has game time. Surely he has to play somewhere, as the Bulls did with Hougaard this year? Is their not maybe the chance that he might be played on the wing?
And what about Jantjes? Are you going to play Aplon ahead of him? Stick Jantjes on the bench? Or have him play Vodacom Cup?
21 Sep 2010, 09:00 am
@Tegejo(Tegejo)-63: Mate, all you have to do is chuck in a couple of hehehehe’s, support the bulls and say something like “poep” and you’ll love the post. Not all that hard to please you.
21 Sep 2010, 09:01 am
lucrative business deal involving former Springbok coach Jake White, Highbury Safika Media and rugby writer Mark Keohane has turned sour and ended up in the Western Cape High Court.
On Monday Highbury and Keohane applied to place the joint sports venture they had launched with White under provisional liquidation.
In papers before the court Keohane, who is employed by Highbury Safika as its publishing director, said that the application was in fact a “last resort” after “every endeavour to resolve the dispute” over the joint company, Jake White’s Winning Way (PTY) Ltd, of which they are all shareholders.
Former Wallabies coach, Eddie Jones, who was to assist White with the company, has also been listed as a shareholder. The dispute, said Keohane, has since seen the shareholders reach “deadlock”, particularly over the division of shares and other monetary matters.
Continues Below ?
The papers say that there is “no prospect” of it ever being resolved.
Keohane said that both he and White had agreed that there was a lack of coaching of coaches in the country, especially at schools level and White felt he was an “outstanding identifier” of talent at junior level.
“(White) felt this could be maximised by virtue of a player agency in which the youngster’s future could be guided professionally by White and (Highbury), with White providing the rugby intellectual capital and (Highbury) the business expertise, both from an intellectual point of view and because of access to existing resource,” he said.
Keohane said because White had won the World Cup, he had suggested that the company be called “Jake White’s Winning Way”.
It was White who wanted to bring Jones on board, said Keohane, where Jones’ involvement would be beyond a consultancy level as their intention had always been to “explore the Japanese emerging rugby market” as the country was due to host the Rugby World Cup in 2019.
Highbury would “finance the working capital requirements ? until the (company)
21 Sep 2010, 09:01 am
Bloody Bulls poaching players.
Leave the Griquas alone.
So who’ll miss out next year? Van der Heever, Akona or Bjorn?
21 Sep 2010, 09:02 am
@Tegejo(Tegejo)-57: The problem is they only have one scrummy and one flyhalf!
21 Sep 2010, 09:02 am
Bjorn has signed his contract and is a Blue Bulls as from 1 November,’ Van Rooyen told SuperSport.com.
‘Bjorn is a very good player and the Bulls were very professional in the manner that they approached us to negotiate with him. We don’t want to lose him but rugby is a business and the decision was the best for all parties concerned. He is one of the best finishers in the country.’
Take a leaf, Sharkies!
21 Sep 2010, 09:04 am
Is this the first time a transfer fee has been paid in South African rugby?
21 Sep 2010, 09:06 am
@katman(katman)-69: Still wiping the egg of your face, I see!
21 Sep 2010, 09:07 am
Basson will be like zane, zane was also good @ griquas (playing against the minnows (big 4′s B teams) in the CC .. zane is k@k, i think basson will also struggle – lets wait and see
21 Sep 2010, 09:07 am
Bjorn is a great player. And he is loyal as well. I remember the Bulls approached him about a year ago, but he stayed loyal to Griquas.
Much better option than Mr. Mapoe, who will probably fit in better with Sharks culture in any case, judging by his dodgy attitude to contractual obligations.
Also, Bjorn will smoke Mapoe in a footrace. So now the Bulls will have TWO lightning fast wings.
We now just need an outside centre and a backup flyhalf, and we will be ready to rock.
Can’t believe JP Pietersen’s price was three times that of Basson. Basson is a better investment on all fronts. I would actually have paid more for Basson than for Pietersen, if I had to choose between the two.
We are going to turn him into a superstar. Watch this space.
21 Sep 2010, 09:08 am
lucrative business deal involving former Springbok coach Jake White, Highbury Safika Media and rugby writer Mark Keohane has turned sour and ended up in the Western Cape High Court.
On Monday Highbury and Keohane applied to place the joint sports venture they had launched with White under provisional liquidation.
In papers before the court Keohane, who is employed by Highbury Safika as its publishing director, said that the application was in fact a “last resort” after “every endeavour to resolve the dispute” over the joint company, Jake White’s Winning Way (PTY) Ltd, of which they are all shareholders.
Former Wallabies coach, Eddie Jones, who was to assist White with the company, has also been listed as a shareholder. The dispute, said Keohane, has since seen the shareholders reach “deadlock”, particularly over the division of shares and other monetary matters.
Continues Below ?
The papers say that there is “no prospect” of it ever being resolved.
Keohane said that both he and White had agreed that there was a lack of coaching of coaches in the country, especially at schools level and White felt he was an “outstanding identifier” of talent at junior level.
“(White) felt this could be maximised by virtue of a player agency in which the youngster’s future could be guided professionally by White and (Highbury), with White providing the rugby intellectual capital and (Highbury) the business expertise, both from an intellectual point of view and because of access to existing resource,” he said.
Keohane said because White had won the World Cup, he had suggested that the company be called “Jake White’s Winning Way”.
It was White who wanted to bring Jones on board, said Keohane, where Jones’ involvement would be beyond a consultancy level as their intention had always been to “explore the Japanese emerging rugby market” as the country was due to host the Rugby World Cup in 2019.
Highbury would “finance the working capital requirements ? until the (company)
21 Sep 2010, 09:08 am
@katman(katman)-65: Dude, dont go there! If you’re attempting to compare the two unions, you’ll get slaughtered. Wait till the Lions wins a trophy before getting c0cky. Not after a couple of RR wins.
21 Sep 2010, 09:08 am
@Tacitus(Tacitus)-77: How long is Basson’s contract at the Bulls?
21 Sep 2010, 09:09 am
Fantastic news in Basson
Now the bulls need an outside centre.
I can think of one who will be sitting in the bench for the stormers next year.
21 Sep 2010, 09:09 am
Simple the Stormers backline will be:
9 Duvenage
10 Grant
11 Habana
12 de Villiers
13 Fourie
14 Aplon
15 Jantjes
There as plenty of games (19 by the time the Stormers make the final) so surely de Jongh will get his chance. Rotation and depth will be important
21 Sep 2010, 09:09 am
@WOLFMAN21(WOLFMAN21)-80:
Don’t know. I’m waiting for the press release on the Bulls website.
21 Sep 2010, 09:09 am
@WOLFMAN21(WOLFMAN21)-68:
…in a maties jersey.
Jantjies will wow the crowds at the Danie Craven Stadium next year with his famous torpedo-up n unders
Aplon will start at 15, Habs and JJ ENgelbrecht on the wings.
I think JDiv, Jacques and JdJ will be rotated through the S15.
There’s now way Pantene will take JdJ’s place in the WC squad
21 Sep 2010, 09:10 am
@Tacitus(Tacitus)-77: Basson has scored more Currie Cup tries than Mapoe has played games yet he thinks he is God’s gift to rugby.
21 Sep 2010, 09:10 am
Jake’s business goes belly up
2010-09-21 08:34
Cape Town – A business deal between former Springbok coach Jake White, local publishing business Highbury Safika Media, and rugby writer Mark Keohane has turned sour, ending up in the Western Cape High Court.
Aeysha Kassiem of the Cape Times reports that Highbury and Keohane have applied to place the venture with White under provisional liquidation.
Keohane, employed by Highbury Safika as the publishing director, said in court papers that the application was in fact a “last resort” after “every endeavour to resolve the dispute” over the joint company, Jake White’s Winning Way (PTY) Ltd, of which they are all shareholders.
Former Australian coach and assistant to White during the Rugby World Cup in 2007, Eddie Jones, has also been listed as a shareholder. The dispute, said Keohane, has since seen the shareholders reach “deadlock”, particularly over the division of shares and other monetary matters.
The papers say that there is “no prospect” of it ever being resolved.
Keohane said that both he and White had agreed that there was a lack of coaching of coaches in the country, especially at schools level and White felt he was an “outstanding identifier” of talent at junior level.
“(White) felt this could be maximised by virtue of a player agency in which the youngster’s future could be guided professionally by White and (Highbury), with White providing the rugby intellectual capital and (Highbury) the business expertise, both from an intellectual point of view and because of access to existing resource,” he said.
The company was called “Jake White’s Winning Way”.
Jones’ involvement was to be beyond a consultancy level as their intention was to “explore the Japanese emerging rugby market” as the country was due to host the Rugby World Cup in 2019.
21 Sep 2010, 09:10 am
@WP_(WP_)-82: de Jongh to play maybe 5 Super 15 games throughout the season? Not a lot of fun for an up and coming Springbok.
21 Sep 2010, 09:11 am
@Tacitus(Tacitus)-83: Hope its a long contract, and not one of those 1 or 2 year contracts.
21 Sep 2010, 09:12 am
@WOLFMAN21(WOLFMAN21)-80: @Tacitus(Tacitus)-83: 1 year
21 Sep 2010, 09:13 am
@Falken(Falken)-89:
Probably to give him the flexibility to see if he likes it at the Bulls. Believe me, he will like it.
21 Sep 2010, 09:14 am
Glad to see Griquas get something for him. I wonder how much the transfer fee was? Maybe R1.5 million or maybe R2 million??
21 Sep 2010, 09:14 am
@Frankly speaking(Frankly speaking)-84: Thats what you want!
Jantjies 15
Habana 11
Aplon 14
Jdj on the bench to cover 12 and 13
21 Sep 2010, 09:15 am
The Bulls should go after JdJ! Cant believe Rassie and Coetzee brought Jean Div back from Ireland
21 Sep 2010, 09:16 am
Kockott
Grant
De Jongh
Mossie
JDV (wing)
JJ
Aplon
Habana = vodacom cup
21 Sep 2010, 09:17 am
@WOLFMAN21(WOLFMAN21)-88: You will see unions offering more long contracts to secure players and to ward off other unions trying to buy them. The concept of transfer fee’s has finally emerged in rugby and its all thanks to Mapoe. Its taken rugby some time though. Just shows you how far behind rugby and cricket are in terms of professionalism.
21 Sep 2010, 09:17 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-93: +1.
A good buy for the Bulls. And he’ll be starting every game, not playing in grandpa’s shadow. WP wont release him though.
21 Sep 2010, 09:17 am
@iori Yagami(iori Yagami)-91:
I’m happy with that. It is the ethical way to do business.
In this way, everyone benefits.
The Bulls are building their new dynasty, and they are doing it in the correct manner.
21 Sep 2010, 09:19 am
@Tacitus(Tacitus)-83: How do you see Hougaard’s role in next year’s Super 15. I would like to see Hougaard and Kruger used to give as much rest as possible to FdP and Matfield. The same should be done with Spies as he loses a lot of his edge throughout a season.
21 Sep 2010, 09:19 am
@WP_(WP_)-71: No different from what WP does brother , at least in this case Griquas received some sort of compensation. How much did the Lions get for Fourie ? The Bulls for Habana ?
21 Sep 2010, 09:19 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-93:
Bulls buy a WP outside centre – check (Stefan Dippenaar)
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