Currie Cup latest (Tues)

Currie Cup latest (Tues)

21 Sep 2010

Keo.co.za brings you the news from the Currie Cup.

Cheetahs change two

Naka Drotske has opted to start Riaan Smit at fullback and WP Nel at prop against the Pumas.

Nel replaces Kobus Calldo while Smit comes in for Hennie Daniller. Daniller is being rested after playing every Currie Cup game to date.

Cheetahs – 15 Riaan Smit, 14 Philip Snyman, 13 Robert Ebersohn, 12 Meyer Bosman, 11 Jongi Nokwe, 10 Louis Strydom, 9 Tewis de Bruyn, 8 Ashley Johnson, 7 Philip Van der Walt, 6 Hendro Scholtz, 5 David de Villiers, 4 Francois Uys, 3 WP Nel , 2 Adriaan Strauss (c), 1 Coenie Oosthuizen.
Subs: 16 Skipper Badenhorst, 17 Kobus Calldo, 18 Izak van der Westhuizen, 19 Kabamba Floors, 20 Tertius Carse, 21 Sias Ebersohn, 22 Corné Uys.

Basson’s a Bull

Bjorn Basson has signed a new deal with the Bulls which starts from 1 November.

The Springbok wing was committed to Griquas and the Cheetahs until the end of 2011 but the Bulls paid a transfer fee to get the player released from his contract. Griquas CEO Arni van Rooyen confirmed the move on Tuesday but refused to reveal the amount paid for the player.

Botha ready to rumble

Gary Botha has recovered from a head knock and will be available for the Bulls this weekend.

The Bulls skipper as well as lock Fudge Mabeta have been cleared for the game against the Leopards. Flank Deon Stegmann will undergo a fitness test on Tuesday, and could well feature in Potchefstroom.

Province lose Liebenberg

Tiaan Liebenberg will play no further part in the Currie Cup.

The WP hooker injured his ankle against the Cheetahs three weeks ago and coach Allister Coetzee is not expecting him back any time soon. Liebenberg’s injury was supposed to sideline him for six weeks, but WP management have confirmed he won’t be fit for the play-offs.

Back-up flyhalf Lionel Cronje missed last week’s game with a hamstring problem, and won’t be risked against Griquas this Friday.

Black players don’t want quotas

Sarpa chief executive Piet Heymans says Saru should consider changes to its competition structures to ensure that promising black players don’t disappear between U21 and senior level.

‘The players’ position is that they want equal opportunities. If they are good enough, they want to play. No player wants to be viewed as a quota player and everybody wants to be there on merit. Black players are not in favour of quotas. Their plea is for equal playing opportunities and game time,’ said Heymans.

‘Saru should be creative with the competition structures and see if there is a way of making the transition from junior to senior level easier. The bigger provinces should also be more willing to loan players they aren’t using to smaller provinces. It is happening already, but the system can be utilised even better.’

The Vodacom Cup will still be played next year, but an age limit may be applied from 2012 onwards. One possibility is to make it an U23 competition, while there is also a school of thought that it should make way for a super club competition.

Heymans said it is wrong for Saru to criticise the provinces without doing something about it.

‘As governing body of rugby, Saru have the ability to do something about the [transformation] issue. The question is just whether the leadership is strong enough to really do something about it.’

WP’s timing spot on

Allister Coetzee believes Western Province are building momentum at the perfect time.

Province suffered a mid-season slump when they lost three consecutive matches against the Sharks, Cheetahs and Lions.

However, with three rounds remaining before the play-offs, WP have won their last two games against the Leopards (59-17) and Pumas (62-10) comfortably and displayed the kind of form they had during their six-match winning streak at the start of the season. They are currently second on the log with 38 points.

‘Things are coming together nicely for us and it is especially important at this time of the season,’ said Coetzee. ‘This is the period when you want to be playing well and putting good performances together.

‘We face three tough games now [against Griquas, the Bulls and Sharks] before hopefully we go into the play-offs, so this is the time when we need to step up our performance.’


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  • 251.justrugby: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 10:49 am

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-239:

    True, I have no probs with FS , but remember he only got his chance because JDEV tore his bicep !!!

    So you would prefer, Terblance, Swanepoel and Strauss to JDEV………… ……..seriiaaaaas ??

  • 252.bluejay: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 10:51 am

    so,jake the snake’s and markie-boy’s love affair ended up in the cape high court.well that explains his job hunting skills!

  • 253.WP_: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 10:52 am

    @grant10(grant10)-249: Agree, lots of rugby, depth and rotation will be important. Got to rotate loosies with Vermeulen, Louw’s and Koster and Hartzenburg. Flo looks buggered to me, played about 20 odd games his year already…

    Agree with Kritzinger, solid talent, must keep hold of our front run, they’re developing well.

    Hopefully if we get Kockott we’ll send Ricky on his way!

  • 254.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 10:52 am

    @Zandberg Jansen(Zandberg Jansen)-245: He did win a World Cup at 12, thank goodness for that, no barndoors open in the 12 channel – No coincidence Bok midfield defence was shoddy with Donkey in the side… Donkey didn’t make the WC – he was too soft, so a 19 yr old youngster took his place and showed him up – people seem to forget easily…

  • 255.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 10:53 am

    @justrugby(justrugby)-251: Swannie anyday over the Donkey – at least he can tackle…

  • 256.Tacitus: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 10:54 am

    Basson essentially is a straight replacement for Habana at the Bulls.

    Only he is younger, quicker, hungrier and by the looks of things, a whole lot more down to earth.

  • 257.Puma: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 10:54 am

    @WP_(WP_)-244: I think 12. Though Lambie has excelled in all those positions. BUT yes, he was superb at 15 in the S14. For now Sharks must just leave him to play the rest of the CC at FH. He is doing just fine there and could get better.

    For Boks after world cup.

    9 – Hougaard
    10 – Jantjies
    11 – Mvovo/Basson
    12 – Lambie
    13 – De Jongh
    14 – JPP/Mapoe
    15 – Daniller/Taute

    WE HAVE TALENT. Some great youngsters coming through.

  • 258.justrugby: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 10:54 am

    @WP_(WP_)-253:

    Send the Rickster to the Sharks !!! :)

  • 259.WP_: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 10:54 am

    @WOLFMAN21(WOLFMAN21)-248: We’ll give you Frikkie Welsh back and throw in Ricky Januarie to complete, I think anyway, quite a mouth-watering two-for-the-price of none deal.

    What you think? :lol:

  • 260.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 10:55 am

    @WOLFMAN21(WOLFMAN21)-216: i honestly haven’t seen van der heever step, in the highlanders game he just changed direction and wrong footed defenders.

  • 261.justrugby: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 10:55 am

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-254:

    Nonesense man, he was injured in the first game !!!

  • 262.WP_: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 10:56 am

    @Puma(Puma)-257: I like the look of that but I’d throw Frans Steyn in there too… Perhaps at 12 as he gets older? or 15… But TALENT is right…

  • 263.Puma: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 10:57 am

    @Tacitus(Tacitus)-256: Tac, Basson is brilliant at the moment and think at the Bulls he will get even better. Bulls have bought a gem of a player in him. Just needs to bulk up just a wee bit. Superb player for sure.

  • 264.WOLFMAN21: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 10:57 am

    @WP_(WP_)-259: Sure – we will take Ricky – we need an example for all the youngsters at the Bulls of how your career can go wrong if you are not careful, and Frikkie can play prop for the Vodacom Cup team, with de Jongh playing 13 in the Super 15!

  • 265.Puma: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 10:58 am

    @WP_(WP_)-262: Yes OF COURSE forgot about Fransie. Heck we have talent WP.

  • 266.bluejay: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 10:59 am

    good buy bulls but what happened to bringing players through your great structures?i thought the bulls don’t buy springboks.

  • 267.Puma: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 10:59 am

    @justrugby(justrugby)-258: :lol: Nah, we getting Hoffman. Have hardly seen him play but heard he is the real deal. Will have to wait and see.

  • 268.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 10:59 am

    @justrugby(justrugby)-261: apologies confused the last WC with the one before when Donkey also sha.t himself and got injured so he didn’t have to play in that one either… But WePee must keep Donkey – JdJ can come to the benchmark – the Sharks… He will be numero uno centre in the numero uno team, not no. 3 like at WePee…

  • 269.Puma: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 11:00 am

    @bluejay(bluejay)-266: :lol: Good one….hehehehe.

  • 270.Tacitus: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 11:00 am

    The Bulls haven’t had a wing combination this quick – ever.

    In Habana’s prime, he was still paired with the average paced Ndungane.

    Now we have two super fast wings, both at least as fast as Habana ever was.

  • 271.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 11:00 am

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-255: swannie is kak, period! Even Munster wouldn’t even look Swannie’s way

  • 272.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 11:01 am

    @justrugby(justrugby)-258: The warthog is the epitome of WePee, he can’t move elsewhere… He fits just perfectly with the Disas

  • 273.Zandberg Jansen: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 11:02 am

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-254: Didnt forget, he played well in the WC, he is just non a centre HG.

  • 274.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 11:02 am

    @justrugby(justrugby)-251: even if the Sharks paid Munster to keep Swannie, i’m sure the Oirish would refuse! :D

  • 275.justrugby: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 11:02 am

    @Puma(Puma)-267:

    I have watched Hoffman quite a bit and imo it is imperative that they let him specalise at SH.

    He has talent but he is not a FB , wing or FH but could become a very , very good SH !!!!

  • 276.WOLFMAN21: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 11:03 am

    @Tacitus(Tacitus)-270: Kirchner is quicker than Roets, isn’t he?

  • 277.bluejay: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 11:04 am

    @Puma(Puma)-263: who are we going to credit when basson breaks habana’s try-scoring record for the boks one day…the kwas or the bulls?didn’t they together with their supporters tried to convince the rest of us that habana never played for the lions?

  • 278.Puma: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 11:04 am

    @Tacitus(Tacitus)-270: Sharks will compete with Bulls there. (I did read your post on Mapoe’s speed) BUT he is damn fast still with ball in hand. With Mvovo on the otherside we have two great wings. Also still have JPP.

  • 279.justrugby: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 11:04 am

    @Transformation(Transformation)-274:

    LOL…… !!!

  • 280.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 11:04 am

    @Transformation(Transformation)-271: I am certainly not rating Swannie by any means. He has better D than Donkey though – anyone has better D than DdV, even barndoor Doppies…

    Munster realised their mistake with DdV very quickly… Not a munster legend, our Donkey…

  • 281.Big Hit: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 11:06 am

    @WOLFMAN21(WOLFMAN21)-243: yeah footwork and a good rugby brain is more important than blistering pace.

  • 282.Puma: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 11:06 am

    @bluejay(bluejay)-277: Well he is scoring the most tries already in the CC. So for now we have to give credit to Griquas. BUT think Bulls will transform him into a super star. Bulls are a damn fine union and they have a very good backline coach. Good luck you have one of the best.

  • 283.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 11:07 am

    @Zandberg Jansen(Zandberg Jansen)-273: Pierre Berbizier and Racing Metro differ (They rate him high enough as 12 to pay him a top 5 salary in France). The Frogs know a thing or 2 about backline play…

  • 284.Puma: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 11:08 am

    @justrugby(justrugby)-275: Think that is why we bought him. To play him at SH. I have only seen him play on the wing for Province this CC. So have not taken too much notice. Will watch him next year at the Sharks though.

  • 285.grant10: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 11:14 am

    i also rate F Steyn as a 12…..bottom line is he wants to play 10….12….

    He doesent like playing at 15.

  • 286.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 11:14 am

    @Big Hit(Big Hit)-281: Jason Robinson…? Fylde’s newest representative…

  • 287.grant10: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 11:15 am

    joe van niekerk looking great at Toulon….what a try he scored the weekend!

  • 288.bluejay: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 11:16 am

    @Puma(Puma)-284: i rate him a better scrummie than the current wp ‘fourie cloned’scrummie.give him max two years and he will become the best scrummie in sa…just my opinion.

  • 289.bluejay: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 11:19 am

    @grant10(grant10)-285: with frans at 12 de jongh can forget about ever seeing ball again!

  • 290.grant10: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 11:19 am

    @bluejay(bluejay)-288: agree with you mate…..that Hoffmann is a helleva prospect.

  • 291.grant10: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 11:20 am

    @bluejay(bluejay)-289: JDV also can be guilty of a bit of ball hogging!

  • 292.quotas_sux: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 11:23 am

    JDV = 10 times better than JDJ …

  • 293.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 11:24 am

    @grant10(grant10)-287: I watched the game… Toulon vs Clermont – couldn’t get the Sharks game. Lot to be said about the standard of Top 14… I think it is a brilliant comp with all the Clubs representing a Town and the City or Town fanatical about their team…

    How’s the names in Toulon shirts:

    Big Joe,
    Wilko,
    Hayman,
    Contepomi,
    Fernandez Lobbe,
    Mignoni,
    Wulf,
    Sackey,
    Lamont,
    George Smith….

  • 294.Mighty Horua: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 11:24 am

    Why havent we seen a thread about the Keo and Jakey saga?

  • 295.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 11:26 am

    @bluejay(bluejay)-289: With Frans at 12, Habanero equalled the record for tries in a WC… Maybe Steyn at 12 is what the Boks are missing… Think about it.

  • 296.gecko: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 11:29 am

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-295: Not one try was off 1st phase. All were either intercepts or off broken play caused the defensive turnovers.

  • 297.Puma: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 11:29 am

    @bluejay(bluejay)-288: Will watch him next year and see. Seems we then bought ourselves a good scrummie. For now in the CC we doing fine with the two we have. Big squads needed next year so another one wont hurt us…LOL.

  • 298.justrugby: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 11:29 am

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-295:

    Maybe Butch at 10 was the reason ??????

  • 299.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 11:33 am

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-293: Names in Racing Metro 92 –

    Lionel Nallet
    Andrea Lo Cicero
    Johnny Leo’o
    Sébastien Chabal
    Juan Martín Hernández
    François Steyn
    Mirco Bergamasco
    Sireli Bobo

    Top 14 is a farking class compo. Will take this anyday over S15 abomination

  • 300.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2010, 11:35 am

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-295: steyn is more of a ball hog than jdv but the BIGGEST ball hog is Mossie!!

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