Currie Cup latest (Tues)
21 Sep 2010
Keo.co.za brings you the news from the Currie Cup.
Cheetahs change two
Naka Drotske has opted to start Riaan Smit at fullback and WP Nel at prop against the Pumas.
Nel replaces Kobus Calldo while Smit comes in for Hennie Daniller. Daniller is being rested after playing every Currie Cup game to date.
Cheetahs – 15 Riaan Smit, 14 Philip Snyman, 13 Robert Ebersohn, 12 Meyer Bosman, 11 Jongi Nokwe, 10 Louis Strydom, 9 Tewis de Bruyn, 8 Ashley Johnson, 7 Philip Van der Walt, 6 Hendro Scholtz, 5 David de Villiers, 4 Francois Uys, 3 WP Nel , 2 Adriaan Strauss (c), 1 Coenie Oosthuizen.
Subs: 16 Skipper Badenhorst, 17 Kobus Calldo, 18 Izak van der Westhuizen, 19 Kabamba Floors, 20 Tertius Carse, 21 Sias Ebersohn, 22 Corné Uys.
Basson’s a Bull
Bjorn Basson has signed a new deal with the Bulls which starts from 1 November.
The Springbok wing was committed to Griquas and the Cheetahs until the end of 2011 but the Bulls paid a transfer fee to get the player released from his contract. Griquas CEO Arni van Rooyen confirmed the move on Tuesday but refused to reveal the amount paid for the player.
Botha ready to rumble
Gary Botha has recovered from a head knock and will be available for the Bulls this weekend.
The Bulls skipper as well as lock Fudge Mabeta have been cleared for the game against the Leopards. Flank Deon Stegmann will undergo a fitness test on Tuesday, and could well feature in Potchefstroom.
Province lose Liebenberg
Tiaan Liebenberg will play no further part in the Currie Cup.
The WP hooker injured his ankle against the Cheetahs three weeks ago and coach Allister Coetzee is not expecting him back any time soon. Liebenberg’s injury was supposed to sideline him for six weeks, but WP management have confirmed he won’t be fit for the play-offs.
Back-up flyhalf Lionel Cronje missed last week’s game with a hamstring problem, and won’t be risked against Griquas this Friday.
Black players don’t want quotas
Sarpa chief executive Piet Heymans says Saru should consider changes to its competition structures to ensure that promising black players don’t disappear between U21 and senior level.
‘The players’ position is that they want equal opportunities. If they are good enough, they want to play. No player wants to be viewed as a quota player and everybody wants to be there on merit. Black players are not in favour of quotas. Their plea is for equal playing opportunities and game time,’ said Heymans.
‘Saru should be creative with the competition structures and see if there is a way of making the transition from junior to senior level easier. The bigger provinces should also be more willing to loan players they aren’t using to smaller provinces. It is happening already, but the system can be utilised even better.’
The Vodacom Cup will still be played next year, but an age limit may be applied from 2012 onwards. One possibility is to make it an U23 competition, while there is also a school of thought that it should make way for a super club competition.
Heymans said it is wrong for Saru to criticise the provinces without doing something about it.
‘As governing body of rugby, Saru have the ability to do something about the [transformation] issue. The question is just whether the leadership is strong enough to really do something about it.’
WP’s timing spot on
Allister Coetzee believes Western Province are building momentum at the perfect time.
Province suffered a mid-season slump when they lost three consecutive matches against the Sharks, Cheetahs and Lions.
However, with three rounds remaining before the play-offs, WP have won their last two games against the Leopards (59-17) and Pumas (62-10) comfortably and displayed the kind of form they had during their six-match winning streak at the start of the season. They are currently second on the log with 38 points.
‘Things are coming together nicely for us and it is especially important at this time of the season,’ said Coetzee. ‘This is the period when you want to be playing well and putting good performances together.
‘We face three tough games now [against Griquas, the Bulls and Sharks] before hopefully we go into the play-offs, so this is the time when we need to step up our performance.’
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21 Sep 2010, 11:35 am
@gecko(gecko)-296: Cr.ap man – Steyn gave some brilliant offloads…
and I would suggest Steyn was key in many defensive turnovers…
You see, he can tackle, unlike Donkey…
21 Sep 2010, 11:37 am
@justrugby(justrugby)-298: You see, it was 2 Sharkies who made the difference… More Sharks in the team make for a better Bok side…
21 Sep 2010, 11:37 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-293: awesome….i am a big J Wilkinson fan……watch the poms….they are slowly but surely getting there s hit together….i like what Martin Johnson is doing….his approach is ruthless and he is cutting out any form of complacency…..unlike the boks set up….poms will be a handfull come eoyt and wc 2011
21 Sep 2010, 11:38 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-294: that’s not going to happen buddy…keohane got more class than jake and won’t stoop to the snake’s level,especially with the case still before the courts.
21 Sep 2010, 11:39 am
Hernandez is injured….again. He is now more brittle than Jonny ever was.
21 Sep 2010, 11:40 am
@bluejay(bluejay)-304: Keohane more class? He is the one that is (dont know if he is still) lobbying for Jakey and Eddie to take over if the Boks fail dismally during the EOYT
21 Sep 2010, 11:41 am
@justrugby(justrugby)-298: probably when butch used the skip pass to number 13!
21 Sep 2010, 11:41 am
@bluejay(bluejay)-304:
class
and keo
in one
sentence
?
21 Sep 2010, 11:41 am
boks will not win wc 2011 with MS at 10….sorry…but he will ruin it for boks.
He simply cannot play out of SA….
21 Sep 2010, 11:41 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-302:
LOL…….your delusion knows no end !!!
By the way both ex Sharks …….ever wonder why ??
21 Sep 2010, 11:42 am
boks must be far ken careful on this eoyt….must select horses for courses….no bloody showponies please….
21 Sep 2010, 11:43 am
@justrugby(justrugby)-310: Lotsa moolah – even the Sharks couldn’t pay, even if they wanted to eg Butch, this year…
21 Sep 2010, 11:46 am
Bok rugby was at its peak during 1980 when only two competed for the CC. “Since 1990″ the Boks performance trendline spiral downwards touching the IRB’s no6
21 Sep 2010, 11:46 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-306: not a fan of keohane but if you are honest with yourself the man never personally or officially pushed for jake to take over…maybe his bloggers like ryan and jc.
21 Sep 2010, 11:46 am
@bluejay(bluejay)-307:
LOL…..you said it !!
I actually like FS at 12 , but I also am aware of the class of JDEV, not a bad problem for the Boks……… I wonder if PDEV will consider FS as a 12 or does he view him strictly as a 15 ??
21 Sep 2010, 11:47 am
@justrugby(justrugby)-310: Steyn is a star in France… Munster were not sad to get rid of Donkey… tells you what the perceptions on the international player market are of the 2…
Steyn has got ballas – making a name for himself in a completely different country, culture and language…
21 Sep 2010, 11:49 am
@justrugby(justrugby)-315: F Steyn is PdV’s biggest ballsup of his stint as Bok head honcho…
21 Sep 2010, 11:51 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-316: Saw Donkey watching movies last Friday at Tygervalley
21 Sep 2010, 11:51 am
@grant10(grant10)-303: a good package to watch is the top 10 Top 14 tries of the week… you can get it weekly on youtube or rugbydump… brilliant!
21 Sep 2010, 11:52 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-318: And almost called him Donkey
21 Sep 2010, 11:53 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-318: I hope you didn’t touch him – he is a bit fragile and breaks easily… he needs to stay as WePee no 1 centre so JdJ can come to the Sharks…
21 Sep 2010, 11:54 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-316:
Or he just went for the highest price ????
Ballas got nothing to do with it imo !!
As i said i like the kid, the future I think is FS at 12, JDEJ at 13 and Lambie at 15 for the Boks !!
21 Sep 2010, 11:54 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-319: thanks…
will watch it….weather looksgreat over there as well….i can see why JVN and F Steyn happy there…
21 Sep 2010, 11:54 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-320: LOL
21 Sep 2010, 11:56 am
will be interesting to see how Jantjes and Lambie develop ….i havent seen a lot of them but both not shabby….
21 Sep 2010, 11:58 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-320: Just out of interest, are you a Kiwi?
21 Sep 2010, 12:00 pm
@gecko(gecko)-326:
Hy is ‘n Hoerewa!
21 Sep 2010, 12:03 pm
@Slartibartfart(Slartifartfast)-327:
Jou Holborsel
21 Sep 2010, 12:04 pm
@gecko(gecko)-326: No
21 Sep 2010, 12:05 pm
@justrugby(justrugby)-322: Not just the money, although Steyn is a Top earner in France – no Sa team can afford him anymore… like Hayman – the Kiwis cant give him what he gets in France (not just the moolah)… Once you have stuck at it and get used to it – the lifestyle in france is hard to beat, Steyn is doing that – Matfield and Smit couldn’t handle it…
21 Sep 2010, 12:06 pm
who saw F Steyn’s quick kick off on youtube (led to his team try) absolute genius! then we sit with qouta zane
21 Sep 2010, 12:07 pm
@grant10(grant10)-325: in the game against the Bulls on saturday, did you see the backline move with looping the lions were doing – straight out carlos spencer’s manual. I like the look of jantjies, he is not scared to attack the line and he created the doppies try by taking on 2 bulls players and doppies clean up to finish…gutsy young man.
But the true test is Super Rugby and then International level. Otherwise now he is just still a kid with talent.
21 Sep 2010, 12:07 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-330: Well, I’m sure you’ve heard the rumours. Maybe Steyn like playing in France for the same reason Gareth Thomas did.
Should still be in every Bok 22, regardless of his choices.
21 Sep 2010, 12:08 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-330:
And it’s probably a little easier to be….errrr, yourself, in France than it is in Aliwal Noord.
21 Sep 2010, 12:08 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-332: *looping passes*
21 Sep 2010, 12:12 pm
@grant10(grant10)-323: France, especially the South, is great… If JvN and FS learn French adequately they probably won’t want to come back to Sa… Many Saffers don’t realise how fanatical the French are about their rugger, esp in the South… You go into a newsagent and there is a weekly rugger paper (midi olympic), and 4 or 5 French rugger magazines… you even have rugger fashion: Eden Park (Franck Mesnel) and Serge Blanco 15 fashion outlets in many cities … Dilly about their rugby there
21 Sep 2010, 12:12 pm
There are too much Afrikaner blood running through Frans Stain to be a gerty
21 Sep 2010, 12:13 pm
@gecko(gecko)-333: Rubbish, but if so, why should it matter to you…
21 Sep 2010, 12:14 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-332: Ran into him on Sunday in Valhalla Spar. Tried to convince him to join the Bulls, he declined. Nice kid though, shy and humble.
21 Sep 2010, 12:14 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-332: ja….very impressive that kid….he looks the real deal…..perhaps best to see him in superrugby before making him a bok……but sometimes i reckon we should throw the okes in the deep end….
21 Sep 2010, 12:15 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-338: Read my last sentence, it doens’t matter to me.
21 Sep 2010, 12:15 pm
till later
21 Sep 2010, 12:16 pm
mighty, i agree, but luckily for us, he doesn’t have the type of blood PDV has.. imagine that sheesh … mes steek & TIK like old skop … he’d be a walking red card
21 Sep 2010, 12:16 pm
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-306:
Secret alliances control rugby
2010-09-21 09:51
Gary Boshoff
So transformation has been forced back
onto SARU ’s agenda after Happy Ntshingila
of ABSA dared to pass a comment on the
dominating paleness of the Currie Cup
teams on display in the 2010 Currie Cup
Competition. I mean, how could the man be
so stupid?
He should have known better
than to challenge the self-proclaimed holy
grail of white sport in South Africa,
especially when it comes to transformation
and representation in the white man ’s
beloved pastime. How could he have been
so naïve to think that just because ABSA
plans to invest close to R200 million in
rugby (over the next four years) that he, as
Executive Director of Marketing and
Corporate Affairs of ABSA, could suggest
that his partners address the need for more
and greater transformation in the sport?
He
should have known by now that these
guys are only interested in his money and
not his opinion!
In the commercial world of sport, money
speaks louder then politics, tradition or
religion and so it didn ’t come as a surprise
when just as soon as Afriforum started
with an SMS campaign to protest against
Happy Ntshingila ’s comments, the bank’s
deputy CEO Louis Von Greunen denied that
ABSA was in favour of re-introducing
quotas in rugby. He was obviously scared
that the bank ’s objective comments about
the slow pace of transformation in rugby
will cost the bank clients and thus impact
on its profit margins. Nevertheless, ABSA
and for that matter its major shareholder,
Barclays, also realises the importance of
delivering on the mandate of a
transforming South Africa, not only in the
economic and political spheres of society,
but also in the socio-cultural life of the
populace, of which sport forms a central
part. There is no way that ABSA can be seen
to bankroll a sports organisation that still
shows a reluctance to embrace the national
imperative of transformation. I can just
imagine the intensity of the debate.
Perhaps this deliberate attempt by ABSA to
facilitate change in the structures of SARU
will lead to more decisive action on
transformation in the near future?
The challenge of transformation in rugby
has been a long time coming, believe me. I
was there when the first salvos were fired
back in 1992 when the various federations
reached a record of understanding on the
imperative of transformation. Since then
we have had an accumulation of promises
and excuses that has as of yet not
produced the much talked about
representation on the provincial and
national level of the game.
Representation
at junior level has been adequate for many
years, yet the majority of these players
don ’t make it through to their provincial
sides, suggesting a glass ceiling for black
players.
However, the truth is that even in
provinces with black senior coaches and
selectors, black representation has not
grown at a faster pace than elsewhere, in
turn suggesting an all round scarcity of
quality black talent. Whatever the reason, as
of late SARU has not shown the necessary
urgency when dealing with this challenge,
it has primarily been left up to the
provinces to do their own thing.
Nevertheless, it was still very amusing (to
me at least) to read about Hoskins ’ letter to
the provinces calling on them to address
the important matter of transformation.
This letter, obviously prompted by the
comments of Happy Ntshingila does
obviously not carry any urgency and will
have little impact as Hoskins ’ administration
has had their heads buried in the sand on
transformation for so long it is not hard to
see the true motivation behind the letter –
it was money (ABSA’s money) more than
conviction that was talking (almost like
Robert Mugabe agreeing to democratic
elections to qualify for economic assistance
from South Africa).
Transformation in rugby has never only
been about numbers on the field of play, it
has always been about fundamental
change: it was and is about the way the
game is managed; about who gets elected
and the power relations that governs the
various alliances in this important
institution of South African society. The
fact of the matter is that while the majority
of rugby players and supporters in this
country are black, the sport is still run and
controlled by a small minority who through
secret alliances control who gets elected
into the decision-making structures of the
sport.
Until these broader and fundamental
transformational issues are addressed
transparently and with the genuine
intention to change rugby for the better,
the sport will remain a contested terrain in
South Africa.
Gary Boshoff is a former SARU player and
current Afrikaans rugby commentator on
SuperSport.
21 Sep 2010, 12:17 pm
lol, as if Elton will lift M Steyn …lol
21 Sep 2010, 12:18 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-339:
his younger brother is at the bulls.
also a serious talent.
maybe sa’s version of the ella brothers.
21 Sep 2010, 12:18 pm
@JockBok(JockBok)-334: yeah, and be a hero to many French stukkies…. However rugger players also icons in thegay community – re: the player calendars… but not much different to the moff.ie Sa Sports Illustrated photos on rugger players – homoerotic to say the least…
21 Sep 2010, 12:18 pm
@grant10(grant10)-340:
Problem with that is one bad game and it could go either way with his confidence. Remember what happened to Gio a few years ago. Dropped like a hot potato and nearly a career on the rocks. Luckily he got through it and look where he is now. But he was down and out a year after everyone screaming he should be a Bok.
I’d give Jantjies a Super campaign to build the confidence and hone the skills before even thinking about the Boks.
21 Sep 2010, 12:20 pm
gary Boshoff always has been a racist d00s. Always racism this or that and blames whites, but the whole SARU is black/coloured. Always blame white people & apartheid for their own incompetence
21 Sep 2010, 12:21 pm
@JockBok(JockBok)-348: +1
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