Currie Cup latest (Tues)
21 Sep 2010
Keo.co.za brings you the news from the Currie Cup.
Cheetahs change two
Naka Drotske has opted to start Riaan Smit at fullback and WP Nel at prop against the Pumas.
Nel replaces Kobus Calldo while Smit comes in for Hennie Daniller. Daniller is being rested after playing every Currie Cup game to date.
Cheetahs – 15 Riaan Smit, 14 Philip Snyman, 13 Robert Ebersohn, 12 Meyer Bosman, 11 Jongi Nokwe, 10 Louis Strydom, 9 Tewis de Bruyn, 8 Ashley Johnson, 7 Philip Van der Walt, 6 Hendro Scholtz, 5 David de Villiers, 4 Francois Uys, 3 WP Nel , 2 Adriaan Strauss (c), 1 Coenie Oosthuizen.
Subs: 16 Skipper Badenhorst, 17 Kobus Calldo, 18 Izak van der Westhuizen, 19 Kabamba Floors, 20 Tertius Carse, 21 Sias Ebersohn, 22 Corné Uys.
Basson’s a Bull
Bjorn Basson has signed a new deal with the Bulls which starts from 1 November.
The Springbok wing was committed to Griquas and the Cheetahs until the end of 2011 but the Bulls paid a transfer fee to get the player released from his contract. Griquas CEO Arni van Rooyen confirmed the move on Tuesday but refused to reveal the amount paid for the player.
Botha ready to rumble
Gary Botha has recovered from a head knock and will be available for the Bulls this weekend.
The Bulls skipper as well as lock Fudge Mabeta have been cleared for the game against the Leopards. Flank Deon Stegmann will undergo a fitness test on Tuesday, and could well feature in Potchefstroom.
Province lose Liebenberg
Tiaan Liebenberg will play no further part in the Currie Cup.
The WP hooker injured his ankle against the Cheetahs three weeks ago and coach Allister Coetzee is not expecting him back any time soon. Liebenberg’s injury was supposed to sideline him for six weeks, but WP management have confirmed he won’t be fit for the play-offs.
Back-up flyhalf Lionel Cronje missed last week’s game with a hamstring problem, and won’t be risked against Griquas this Friday.
Black players don’t want quotas
Sarpa chief executive Piet Heymans says Saru should consider changes to its competition structures to ensure that promising black players don’t disappear between U21 and senior level.
‘The players’ position is that they want equal opportunities. If they are good enough, they want to play. No player wants to be viewed as a quota player and everybody wants to be there on merit. Black players are not in favour of quotas. Their plea is for equal playing opportunities and game time,’ said Heymans.
‘Saru should be creative with the competition structures and see if there is a way of making the transition from junior to senior level easier. The bigger provinces should also be more willing to loan players they aren’t using to smaller provinces. It is happening already, but the system can be utilised even better.’
The Vodacom Cup will still be played next year, but an age limit may be applied from 2012 onwards. One possibility is to make it an U23 competition, while there is also a school of thought that it should make way for a super club competition.
Heymans said it is wrong for Saru to criticise the provinces without doing something about it.
‘As governing body of rugby, Saru have the ability to do something about the [transformation] issue. The question is just whether the leadership is strong enough to really do something about it.’
WP’s timing spot on
Allister Coetzee believes Western Province are building momentum at the perfect time.
Province suffered a mid-season slump when they lost three consecutive matches against the Sharks, Cheetahs and Lions.
However, with three rounds remaining before the play-offs, WP have won their last two games against the Leopards (59-17) and Pumas (62-10) comfortably and displayed the kind of form they had during their six-match winning streak at the start of the season. They are currently second on the log with 38 points.
‘Things are coming together nicely for us and it is especially important at this time of the season,’ said Coetzee. ‘This is the period when you want to be playing well and putting good performances together.
‘We face three tough games now [against Griquas, the Bulls and Sharks] before hopefully we go into the play-offs, so this is the time when we need to step up our performance.’
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21 Sep 2010, 12:24 pm
@quotas_sux(quota_conrad_jantjies_is_jorrie_muller)-349:
calm down before you rip yourself a new poephol.
21 Sep 2010, 12:27 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-344: Gary Boschof is a typical non-”ethnic african” who will always be first to shout about transformation and injustice and yet will be the first to deny his “black consciousness”….
21 Sep 2010, 12:27 pm
@JockBok(JockBok)-348: ja….that would be ideal….agree.
Problem is though with Butch out and MS due to be rested i am not sure what the other options are….personally i would go with Frans Steyn at 10….although he has a lot of detracors at 10.
21 Sep 2010, 12:28 pm
@JockBok(JockBok)-348: Gaffie du Toit…?
21 Sep 2010, 12:28 pm
Do they show IRB Total Rugby on SA telly? If so, did you see the clip about Oz flyhalves, scrumcaps and receivers in their ears (like SA cricket team tried in late ’90′s)?
You can watch it online at ww.irb.com – although normally a week late.
21 Sep 2010, 12:32 pm
news you wont read on Keo… lol
Cape Town – A business deal between former Springbok coach Jake White, local publishing business Highbury Safika Media, and rugby writer Mark Keohane has turned sour, ending up in the Western Cape High Court.
Aeysha Kassiem of the Cape Times reports that Highbury and Keohane have applied to place the venture with White under provisional liquidation.
Keohane, employed by Highbury Safika as the publishing director, said in court papers that the application was in fact a “last resort” after “every endeavour to resolve the dispute” over the joint company, Jake White’s Winning Way (PTY) Ltd, of which they are all shareholders.
Former Australian coach and assistant to White during the Rugby World Cup in 2007, Eddie Jones, has also been listed as a shareholder. The dispute, said Keohane, has since seen the shareholders reach “deadlock”, particularly over the division of shares and other monetary matters.
The papers say that there is “no prospect” of it ever being resolved.
Keohane said that both he and White had agreed that there was a lack of coaching of coaches in the country, especially at schools level and White felt he was an “outstanding identifier” of talent at junior level.
“(White) felt this could be maximised by virtue of a player agency in which the youngster’s future could be guided professionally by White and (Highbury), with White providing the rugby intellectual capital and (Highbury) the business expertise, both from an intellectual point of view and because of access to existing resource,” he said.
The company was called “Jake White’s Winning Way”.
Jones’ involvement was to be beyond a consultancy level as their intention was to “explore the Japanese emerging rugby market” as the country was due to host the Rugby World Cup in 2019.
21 Sep 2010, 12:32 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-352: what is ‘black consciousness’?
21 Sep 2010, 12:34 pm
@grant10(grant10)-353:
Why?
I say bring on that Jantjese kid for the Nov 2010 EOYT, get Januarie to service him, have Jacobs as 1st receiver, De Jongh Aplon and JP to complement the selection, ya, go for it.
At least we shall have some good fun watching the farce!
21 Sep 2010, 12:35 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-357: Its when you sit under a marula tree with your mates, drinking skokiaan from a shared calabash and ponder the meaning of life while watching over the precious izinkomo…
21 Sep 2010, 12:36 pm
@quotas_sux(quota_conrad_jantjies_is_jorrie_muller)-349:
You should refrain from reading that clown’s rubbish, let alone commenting on it IMHO
I for one don’t.
21 Sep 2010, 12:37 pm
@crikey mate did you see that shark(big g)-356:
Keo was trying to dupe Jake out of his hard earned cash!
21 Sep 2010, 12:38 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-359: Spike Lee does it regularly with his mukarangas in th u, s, of a, like OJ and Rodney King (your hero) while thinking about making movies like Malcolm X…
21 Sep 2010, 12:43 pm
@Slartibartfart(Slartifartfast)-361:
lol like i said imporrtant rugby news that you probably wont find here on keo
21 Sep 2010, 12:44 pm
@grant10(grant10)-353:
I’ve always thought that Fransie should be in a positon where he has no time to think and does what just comes naturally. And that’s not at 10 I’m afraid, although he’s too good to be bad there.
It would’ve been an ideal time for Peter Grant to show if he has the goods, but alas he has shot himself in the foot taking the cash in Japan instead of toughing it out in the CC. Now he’s got it all to prove again in the S15. Crazy decision really.
21 Sep 2010, 12:49 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-352:
Boshoff is probably one of the 156 that voted for quotas…
21 Sep 2010, 12:57 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-359: really? I knew sipho hlongwane was talking kak when he wrote this:
The Black Consciousness movement was
formed in the vacuum created by the
banning of struggle movements like the ANC
and the PAC. White liberal movements then
stepped in to fill that void, seizing control of
the struggle, and determining how it was to
be conducted and so on. One of the main
consequences of this white liberal take-over
was that the struggle was fought within the
rules of apartheid. Black students, among
them Steve Biko, then stepped forward and
argued that it was impossible to try to
defeat apartheid by playing within the rules
of the very establishment they were trying
to destroy.
They said that the only people who could
truly understand apartheid were those who
were oppressed by it. The main foe Biko
and his colleagues wanted to eradicate was
the so-called colonisation of the black mind.
Even within the struggle movements, they
noted that the blacks were unconsciously
subverting themselves to the thoughts of
whites. They sought to eradicate this black
self-imposed inferiority by creating a sense
of pride and value in their blackness,
because as long as black people viewed
themselves as second-class citizens, or
spectators at a game they should have been
playing, they would never be truly free.
Black Consciousness was, and still is, about
levelling the playing field. It was about
bolstering black people, and not about
creating diametric opposition to white
people. Biko himself said, “I don’t hate white
people, but I hate white racism”.
21 Sep 2010, 13:01 pm
Good to see that 156 ANC members took time out of their busy day at the ANC Indaba in Dirtbin to come and vote on Keo’s poll!
21 Sep 2010, 13:03 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-366: Yup, and that is why Biko is different to Boschoff – you prove my point about him earlier…
21 Sep 2010, 13:04 pm
@Slartibartfart(Slartifartfast)-365: Don’t kid yourself that there are not already quotas…
21 Sep 2010, 13:05 pm
i hear there is a new quota system for junior level craven week representation. the afrikaner jongbond has requested that there must at least be 5 white kids in the team
21 Sep 2010, 13:06 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-366: See what you have done – okes were talking rugby and now you just want to turn this into a race forum with your copy and pastes….
21 Sep 2010, 13:08 pm
“Transformation in rugby has never only
been about numbers on the field of play, it
has always been about fundamental
change: it was and is about the way the
game is managed; about who gets elected
and the power relations that governs the
various alliances in this important
institution of South African society”
Perfectly stated!
21 Sep 2010, 13:10 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-371: ffs go and read the articles at the top, i bet you will find ‘black players don’t want quotas’
21 Sep 2010, 13:12 pm
This article will get Gary in trouble with Supersport! We dont want to create a Facebook petition against Supersport for accomadating Gary
21 Sep 2010, 13:13 pm
@Falken(Falken)-367: 157 Ned
21 Sep 2010, 13:14 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-373: Lets create a Facebook page to ban Gary Boshoff from Supersport!
21 Sep 2010, 13:15 pm
Own up, who of you are part of the 156 for quotas???
21 Sep 2010, 13:15 pm
Or better….Ask Afriboredom to ask the nation to stop their DSTv subscription
21 Sep 2010, 13:16 pm
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-374:
Gary Boggoff is a twatstick…
where can I join to get him in trouble.
21 Sep 2010, 13:16 pm
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-375: It took them a while to convince Kortbroek!
21 Sep 2010, 13:17 pm
@Slartibartfart(Slartifartfast)-377:
Hoerewa, is jy deel van die 156 conspiracy??
21 Sep 2010, 13:18 pm
My vote is my secret
21 Sep 2010, 13:20 pm
That poll does not reflect the demographics of this new Country – maybe the old ZAR- not the new
21 Sep 2010, 13:20 pm
The only people in favour of enforced transformation (quotas) are people who got where they did through this kind of preferential treatment. People who should ask themselves: was I really the best candidate for whatever I do? Boshoff, Komphela, are you listening?
21 Sep 2010, 13:23 pm
@katman(katman)-384: Dude Boshoff has some serious pedigree, both rugby and academic-wise. Cant speak for Komphela.
21 Sep 2010, 13:25 pm
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-376: hahahaha
did anyone tell you that Bjorn Basson was born in King Williams Town and went to Dale College like XhosaKid?
21 Sep 2010, 13:26 pm
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-383: The people has spoken! Deal with it!
21 Sep 2010, 13:26 pm
Black Consciousness was, and still is, about
levelling the playing field. It was about
bolstering black people, and not about
creating diametric opposition to white
people. Biko himself said, “I don’t hate white
people, but I hate white racism”.
21 Sep 2010, 13:26 pm
@Falken(Falken)-367: Well I would rather have quotas at Currie Cup level than S15 or Test level. If each province had lets say 4 players of colour (or what ever term is used) at Currie Cup level, then that broadens the base of players that can be picked at S15 level and Test level.
Personally I want the best available Test 22, no matter what colour they are, but if quotas are introduced then I believe it should be at Currie Cup level.
21 Sep 2010, 13:27 pm
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-383:
Pre 1903????
21 Sep 2010, 13:29 pm
@Falken(Falken)-387: What people? One blogger one vote! Unlike Quota_Sux that has voted 7500+ times!
21 Sep 2010, 13:31 pm
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-388:
Is there an echo in here?
21 Sep 2010, 13:33 pm
@JockBok(JockBok)-392: Some of the walls that was build during apartheid is obviously still standing! Could be the reason for the echo
21 Sep 2010, 13:34 pm
Boshoff has less of a commentator’s personality than Joost!!
21 Sep 2010, 13:36 pm
What flight you on tomorrow Keo cos I’m also heading to Jozi? I wouldn’t mind giving you a few pointers on the format of your website.
Actually, it’d be interesting to see if you’re flying 1-time or SAA business class
21 Sep 2010, 13:36 pm
@Slartibartfart(Slartifartfast)-394: Less coke ….less personality
21 Sep 2010, 13:36 pm
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-391: If only he knew how to vote more than once!
21 Sep 2010, 13:36 pm
@Slartibartfart(Slartifartfast)-394:
That makes him a bad, very bad commentator…
21 Sep 2010, 13:36 pm
@Slartibartfart(Slartifartfast)-394: Or is it Cat?
21 Sep 2010, 13:37 pm
Tac. Im chatting with Mapoe on Facebook as we speak, he says he doesnt know what his best time over 100 m is.
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