Currie Cup latest (Wed)

Currie Cup latest (Wed)

22 Sep 2010

Keo.co.za brings you the news from the Currie Cup.

Province: Rassie’s going nowhere

Western Province have refuted claims that Rassie Erasmus will be taking up a director of rugby post with SA Rugby.

A article published in the Cape Argus suggested Erasmus was contemplating the move, but WP have responded by reminding all parties concerned that Erasmus is contracted to the Cape union until 2012.

‘Rassie is committed to WP Rugby and is a valued and respected member of the coaching staff. The rumours of a rift and an imminent move have absolutely no basis,’ said Rob Wagner, MD of WP Rugby.

Botha back at 2

Gary Botha has recovered from a head injury and will lead the Bulls against the Leopards.

Frans Ludeke has also opted for Fudge Mabeta at lock, while Juandre Kruger moves to flank.

Deon Stegmann is back at training but won’t be considered for this match.

Blue Bulls – 15 Zane Kirchner,14 Gerhard van den Heever, 13 Jaco Pretorius, 12 Stefan Watermeyer, 11 Jaco van der Westhuyzen , 10 Jacques-Louis Potgieter, 9 Francois Hougaard, 8 Gerrit-Jan van Velze, 7 Juandré Kruger, 6 Derick Kuün, 5 Fudge Mabeta, 4 Flip van der Merwe, 3 Werner Kruger, 2 Gary Botha (c), 1 Dean Greyling.
Subs: 16 Chiliboy Ralepelle, 17 Rossouw de Klerk, 18 Jaco Engels, 19 Wilhelm Steenkamp, 20 Okkie Kruger, 21 Ruan Snyman, 22 Hayden Groepes.

Steenkamp starts

Allister Coetzee has decided to give lock De Kock Steenkamp a run in Friday’s game against Griquas.

Adriaan Fondse will get a rest while the young second-rower will no doubt benefit from the game time.

WP - 15 Conrad Jantjes, 14 JJ Engelbrecht, 13 Juan de Jongh, 12 Jean de Villiers, 11 Gio Aplon, 10 Willem de Waal, 9 Dewaldt Duvenage, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Francois Louw, 6 Pieter Louw, 5 Anton van Zyl (captain), 4 De Kock Steenkamp, 3 Brok Harris, 2 Deon Fourie, 1 Wicus Blaauw.
Subs: 16 Hanyani Shimange, 17 JC Kritzinger, 18 Adriaan Fondse, 19 Nick Koster, 20 Conrad Hoffmann, 21 Gary van Aswegen, 22 Paul Bosch.

AfriForum: Absa lied about race in rugby

Civil rights group AfriForum says it has evidence contradicting Absa’s claim that it did not put pressure on Saru to increase black representivity in the Currie Cup.

According to AfriForum, Absa deputy CEO Louis von Zeuner sent the following SMS to Saru president Regan Hoskins, after the Currie Cup matches played on 11 September: ‘Regan, I think you should write to the major unions on black players -judging from today’s games Lions 2, Bulls 1, Cheetahs 2 – they are not respecting the spirit and goals of transformation. Louis.’

Hoskins, in a Saru press release, said: ‘SA Rugby confirms that at no time did Absa threaten to withdraw sponsorship money or suggested that quotas be instituted or was in any way prescriptive about the composition of the teams.’

Cheetahs want to keep Basson

The Cheetahs’ Super Rugby franchise may take legal action against the Griqualand West Rugby Union after the latter failed to consult with them before allowing Bok wing Bjorn Basson to join the Blue Bulls.

‘In light of what has happened, the Cheetahs’ executive committee gave approval for us to seek legal advice on the matter,’ franchise MD Harold Verster told Sport24. ‘As soon as we have received the necessary recommendations there will be a special directors meeting where the findings, and the consequences thereof, will be discussed.’


68 Comments

  • 1.Tegejo: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 07:25 am

    Tranforming Dragons into half decent rugby players

  • 2.Tacitus: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 07:29 am

    These Cheetahs are becoming losers of note. First running to mommy Marinos to prevent as many Bulls Boks as possible from playing against them and now this. Their claim to fame is that they paid 60 percent of Bjorn’s S14 salary. Considering that they had exclusive acces to him during the S14 it is actually shocking that the cheapskates didnt pay his entire salary during the S14 and actually expected poor little Griquas to cover the remaining 40 percent.

    Anyway, the Bulls followed the right procedure. The Cheetahs just have to live with it.

  • 3.Tacitus: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 07:38 am

    I reckon old Harold is getting a bit dizzy from the thrill of legal action. Suing for emotional distress if another team beats the Cheetahs will probably be next on his agenda.

    Wimpy waitress: Sir, I made you scrambled eggs instead of fried.

    Harold: What! I sue you!

  • 4.grant10: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 07:43 am

    SA Rugby reminds amateur hour at its best….

    Always a drama….

  • 5.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 07:48 am

    the cheetahs didn’t even start basson this season, the starters were mapoe & nokwe and only when these two guys were crocked did they switch to demas & bjorn…

  • 6.quotas_sux: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 07:52 am

    time for hoskins to go. get Louis Luyt back

  • 7.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 07:53 am

    i hope bjorn also stays grounded and doesn’t get sucked into the super ‘baller’ lifestyle of the likes of francois hougaard with their chicks & booze.

  • 8.quotas_sux: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 07:55 am

    Oregan is a joke (slapgat d00s).. get Louis Luyt back.

  • 9.quotas_sux: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 07:56 am

    francois hougaard is the find of the season … SA Player of the year!!

  • 10.gunther: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 07:58 am

    Transie.

    I hope he doesn’t end up dating Louie Fish.

  • 11.quotas_sux: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 08:10 am

    Rassie to leave Province… mark my word … this is the end of WP rugby as we know it. A Coetzee is a puppet

  • 12.Tegejo: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 08:12 am

    @Transformation(Transformation)-7: If he was as good on the field, he deserves the Baller tag….

  • 13.Papoose: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 08:26 am

    @quotas_sux(quota_conrad_jantjies_is_jorrie_muller)-9: hold ur horses…player of the season..wtf

  • 14.quotas_sux: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 08:32 am

    Man gaan na n adult winkel en vra vir n opblaas pop . Wil Mnr n man of vrou he … ? Vrou asb. Wit of swart ? Wit asb. Christian or muslim vra die eienaar ? Bietjie confused vra die man wat maak dit tog nou saak ?… Die moslem poppe blaas hul self op antwoord die winkel eienaar .

  • 15.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 08:36 am

    @gunther(gunther)-10: now you’re playa hating! Leave Loui alone.

  • 16.RedLion is born again: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 08:41 am

    @Tacitus(Tacitus)-2: they have replaced the Sharks as the most pathetic … FS you suck you backward baastards.

  • 17.stormersboy: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 08:45 am

    LOL This is quite amusing. I don’t think it will go anywhere, but ok…

  • 18.Papoose: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 08:47 am

    @quotas_sux(quota_conrad_jantjies_is_jorrie_muller)-11: actually after this comment i was reminded that u r a tool

  • 19.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 08:48 am

    @Tegejo(Tegejo)-12: dude what are you trying to say…? Stephan Dippenaar is also apparently ‘ballling’ is he also candidate for player of the year? :D

  • 20.adi: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 08:55 am

    Rassie should be chased away.

    The unions must give players equal . Rassie just buys players.

  • 21.gunther: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 08:59 am

    Stormersboy

    Is it just me or do free state just enjoy being contrary?

  • 22.PissAnt: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 09:00 am

    @Tacitus(Tacitus)-3:

    As someone mentioned over twitter, Harold (who reminds me more and more of that character in the movie Harold and Kumar…) must have been a huge LA Law fan, he seems to show more interest in court room battles than rugby battles…

    Anycase, Cheetahs can only really take legal action against Griquas, they have no case against the Bulls.

  • 23.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 09:03 am

    @gunther(gunther)-21: Verster wants to win the new Super rugby comp and he can’t do that without his wings, plus with all this ‘Transformation’ talk going around he ain’t tryna lose his black wings…

  • 24.quotas_sux: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 09:03 am

    ja papoes

  • 25.Tegejo: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 09:11 am

    @Transformation(Transformation)-19: I’m just saying, having attitude is very irritating…for everyone, but we will excuse our superstars…… If Basson delivers the goods on the field, he can pretty much get away with anything.

  • 26.Falken: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 09:14 am

    23726 – 176
    The people has spoken! :-D

  • 27.gunther: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 09:15 am

    @Transformation(Transformation)-23:

    then he should have bought basson for the cheaters and paid mapoe a decent salary.

    its a shoestring operation there I’m afraid, disguised as sandal.

  • 28.Brigadier Van Zyl: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 09:18 am

    thank fck Basson is going to the Bulls…we need more pace out wide at the minute….and this oke is quick.

    Bulls look like their depth will be very good for next s15.

    concerned about 13 though….Jaco is ok and Dippenaar hasn’t shown me much yet. Maybe they’d consider Watermeyer at 12 with Olivier at 13?

  • 29.gunther: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 09:21 am

    @gunther(gunther)-27:

    pretending to be a veldskoen.

  • 30.PissAnt: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 09:22 am

    In general I quite like Basson, but I am not convinced he is strong on defense or under the high ball, great finisher though.

  • 31.rangerman: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 09:24 am

    @PissAnt(PissAnt)-30: he is awesome under the high ball PA.

    one of the best imo.

  • 32.PissAnt: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 09:25 am

    @rangerman(rangerman)-31:

    Hmmm…

    I must have missed those moments.

  • 33.rangerman: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 09:26 am

    roy, every fukking time i post a comment, the page ends up hanging.

    in case you wondered why comments were down.

    i then have to reload the page from the keo homepage.

    it is very irritating and now i am off to do work.

    toodalooo muddaf…….s.

  • 34.Falken: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 09:28 am

    @PissAnt(PissAnt)-32: He scored a blinder against the force! He took a high ball from under that O Connor childs nose and the laughed all the way to the try line!

  • 35.sparticus: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 09:30 am

    @Tacitus(Tacitus)-2: Agree , Besides what did they expect ? Must he play another season for them now that they paid 60% of his salary for this year ? He is leaving after the season ends so they have no say in what happens to him. Griquas and not cheetahs invested in him from the beginning and they are being paid for the early release , its exactly how things should be. Cheetahs the way I see it had no part of the players development and invested nothing , instead they just rented him for a few weeks.

    Cheetahs are going a bit too far with this.

  • 36.Papoose: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 09:35 am

    @quotas_sux(quota_conrad_jantjies_is_jorrie_muller)-24: highlighting your intellect
    or the lack thereof

  • 37.rangerman: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 09:38 am

    @Falken(Falken)-34: there was an entire write up in the local papers here in durbs about bjorn and the amount of work he had put into fielding the high ball.

    in every game i have seen him play, this has been a flawless part of his game.

    maybe PA just hasnt been watching much rugga? :lol:

  • 38.Papoose: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 09:38 am

    @gunther(gunther)-27: shoestring operation, disguised as a sandal :-D :-D :-D :-D

  • 39.Falken: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 09:47 am

    @rangerman(rangerman)-37: He said he got his skills from play basketball with his brothers!

  • 40.stormersboy: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 09:57 am

    @gunther(gunther)-21: No it’s not just you. I was thinking the same thing. I’m mildy curious to see if it goes anywhere, but I seriously doubt it. I think what’s really going on here is they’re angling for some of the transfer money. He does, after all, owe some of his exposure to the Cheetahs Super 14 Franchise.

  • 41.gunther: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 10:02 am

    @stormersboy(stormersboy)-40:

    that’s why it won’t go anywhere.

    umless he has a contract with the cheaters.

  • 42.Tegejo: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 10:05 am

    @gunther(gunther)-41: If he had a contract with them, we would have know about it by now…. they’re just after 60% of the transfer fee.

  • 43.Tegejo: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 10:29 am

    Bob Skinstad – Superrugby

    Is there too much bloat to render the new look Super 15 something to look forward to?

    I like big name, intra country, intense, derbies, they show the best players in their prime, battling for contention and position, in the age old rivalries that we have grown accustomed to – often they are just before tours and selections too, adding a sense of bite to the occasion, with bragging rights and national colours up for grabs.

    I write all this because I think that is what the new Super Rugby (terrible logo) format is trying to use as a showpiece to start the tournament, and I praise the organisers for that, but then where does it head ? Down the veritible rabbit hole of quasi qualifying, match up murdering mince meat in the middle.

    I still can’t work out whether the pseudo quarter finals are a boon or a balls up, as they might be teams from the same country, re-hashing what happened early on and stopping the possibility of the winners having to play all the good, in form teams or their vanquishers. It does seem a bit odd.

    My other worry is that of the domestic competitions. For example, if we see the Cheetahs play the Sharks in the not so super new Super 15, possibly twice, why does that help in any way the jersey changed, same team match up that we were waiting for during our currently already exciting domestic match up filled, Currie Cup ? Have we not just given away all the home derby value to a tournament that needs our traditional rivalries to keep it alive and in so doing , thrown the baby out with the proverbial bath water ?

    Where do we ( SARU ) negotiate from here ?

    I think we should have kept our fantastic domestic Currie Cup – thrown out the Vodacom competition, and played like the H Cup in Europe – a game every fortnight or month or so, that was Super 15 only. Allow the local teams to keep building their squads, and pedigrees, match them up against each other domestically mostly, and only again through qualification where possible – and then lead up toward a grand finale, at the end of the domestic season, a la H Cup that sees the finals played within the same months, so that teams can keep their squads to defend their national club championships as well as the international ones.

    This way – all we as South Africans have done, with the lions share of interest that we had, is give those prize matches away and lose focus on the Currie Cup, which is what made us great anyway, now the teams will play their stars for the Sanzar comps ( Super and tri/quad nations), then rest their stars, on insistence from SA rugby, for the Currie Cup – before playing an under strength team on the end of year tour – it seems to me that it all starts with a bang and ends with a whimper.

    DID I mention that the global season of football has helped them (FIFA/UEFA) garner the biggest ever audience growth figures of the sport over the last few domestic and international seasons, hmmm, when do they play Champions League football again, oh during the domestic season off weekends/fixtures you say, and end it all with a grand finale ? One global season ? What a good idea !

  • 44.Cheetah Champs: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 10:31 am

    Dear Harold Verster:

    Lawyers Fees + 60% of Bjorn basson + 100% Lionel Mapoe = Rx

    Now use Rx to go buy a flyhalf. Focus on issues at hand…..Sias and Louis will be useless in S15.

  • 45.dWeePer: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 11:03 am

    Rumours have it that the Sharks offered R800000 as a transfer fee to Freestate. They turned it down. Now what Harold No?

  • 46.stormersboy: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 11:15 am

    @dWeePer(dWeePer)-45: Basson is in my opinion more valuable then Mapoe. That okie is in serious danger of stuffing his young career up badly.

    Part of me actually hopes he does, given his behaviour of late.

  • 47.PissAnt: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 12:25 pm

    No man Roy, what kak is this with comments in moderation?

  • 48.stormersboy: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 12:39 pm

    “Everything in moderation. Including moderation.”-Oscar Wilde..

  • 49.k.camron: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 12:49 pm

    Cant wait till the Cheetahs lose their super rugby status these guys are really inept ito administration and it really reflects on their results.For a union thats showed so much promised in its first season of super rugby all they ve achieved at best are mid table finishes.Get rid of KAKA Drotske,if ever there was a useless coach its him does he even have a coaching qualification? Get rid of Verster this guy has proven many times over he is in way above his level at best he should be a cheetahs mascot no administration bone in him!

  • 50.tole: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 14:23 pm

    Dit lyk of Harold Verster ‘legal action” op die brein het.

  • 51.Mighty Horua: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 14:29 pm

    Its taking forever!

  • 52.Mighty Horua: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 14:30 pm

    What about the comments on moderation?

  • 53.Mighty Horua: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 14:44 pm

    Maybe he should contact Afriboredom to setup a Facebook profile for mass action against the Bullies

  • 54.Mighty Horua: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 14:44 pm

    “they are not respecting the spirit and goals of transformation”

  • 55.Mighty Horua: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 14:45 pm

    Willem De Waal? Rassie should rather take the DOR

  • 56.Mighty Horua: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 14:47 pm

    Gary Botha? “they are not respecting the spirit and goals of transformation”

  • 57.Mighty Horua: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 14:48 pm

    15 Conrad Jantjes, 14 JJ Engelbrecht, 13 Juan de Jongh, 12 Jean de Villiers, 11 Gio Aplon, 10 Willem de Waal, 9 Dewaldt Duvenage

    Good looking Backline

  • 58.Mighty Horua: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 14:50 pm

    15 – jaque Forie
    14 – Aplon
    13 – JdJ
    12 – Donkey Kong
    11 – SA record holder
    10 – Peter Grant
    9 – Duvenhage

  • 59.Mighty Horua: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 14:53 pm

    Wonder what happened to that imbecile that tackled FC Smit on his way to the tryline? He could have been part of that crowd that Booed Habana

  • 60.quotas_sux: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 14:59 pm

    i think habana’s own father boo’ed him. habana threw away the proud habana name with his k@k play in 2010. On par, if not worse than Earl & Jorrie. Mooi so oom habana

  • 61.Mighty Horua: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 15:02 pm

    SA leading try scorer! :lol:

  • 62.quotas_sux: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 15:04 pm

    you’re only as good as your last game … ask John Smit

  • 63.Mighty Horua: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 15:07 pm

    Youre only as good as your last try! :lol:

  • 64.stormersboy: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 15:11 pm

    @Mighty: I’ve alsways liked Jaques at Fullback, not sure if he’ll play there though. It would help accomodate all the players though…

  • 65.quotas_sux: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 15:19 pm

    63, when was habana’s last try for the boks? 1981??

  • 66.Mighty Horua: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 15:28 pm

    Jaque at Fullback and everbody is happy

  • 67.Mighty Horua: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 15:31 pm

    @Quotas: No that must be Errol Tobias

  • 68.Slartibartfart: Reply to this comment
    22 Sep 2010, 16:56 pm

    Die Hoerewa was hier…planning his land invasions no doubt!

Keo.co.za has always promoted uncensored views, but has never tolerated racist or crass outbursts. Come on guys and girls. If you can't moderate yourselves or each other then I am going to be forced to regulate the posts and enforce a registration process for comments. The choice is yours.

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