Something special
27 Sep 2010
Patrick Lambie is the future of South African rugby.
With the 19-year-old Sharks star set to tour with the Springboks in November, SA Rugby magazine looks at his rise to prominence and the debate surrounding where he should play.
Lambie himself says he is in no rush to pick a number, despite what happened to two other Sharks players – Ruan Pienaar and Frans Steyn – when they were labeled utility backs.
‘I’ve enjoyed 15, 12 and 10 and I don’t yet know which one I’m best at or which one I enjoy the most. But with a bit more time and experience I’ll be able to decide on a position, put my mind to it and stay there,’ he says.
‘I have honestly enjoyed all three positions, and maybe it helped that I played 12 after fullback before moving to 10, but the most important thing is that I’ve played a sequence of games in each position. I haven’t played one game here, one game there, and then gone back to the previous position.’
SA Rugby magazine also speaks to Sharks coach John Plumtree and former flyhalf Joel Stransky about Lambie’s future.
Also in the new issue:
– In what he calls his ‘most honest interview ever’, Luke Watson reflects on the mistakes he’s made, his controversial Springbok call up, and the move to Bath that has reinvigorated his career
– The Springboks let themselves down during the home leg of the Tri-Nations – on and off the field
– Allister Coetzee or Heyneke Meyer will replace Peter de Villiers as Springbok coach. SA Rugby magazine examines the candidates’ credentials
– Former England centre Will Greenwood on how this year’s Tri-Nations launched a rugby revolution
– Robbie Deans on the Wallabies’ progress, the new law interpretations, his relationship with Graham Henry and if he’d coach a South African side
– Why Richie McCaw is the most dominant rugby player on the planet
– Lionel Mapoe says he left the Cheetahs because they betrayed him. We find out more from the winger and speak to Free State president Harold Verster and Sarpa CEO Piet Heymans.
– The Springbok Women will not be a force on the international stage until they are properly conditioned and the team is selected on merit
– The Bledisloe Cup provides a very different spectator experience to that of a Tri-Nations match involving the Springboks
– Several South African schools claim their players are being poached by other institutions. SA Rugby magazine investigates
– At the USA’s West Point military academy, rugby is considered the ideal preparation for the controlled chaos of the battlefield
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233 Comments
27 Sep 2010, 05:36 am
Drugoons
27 Sep 2010, 05:39 am
He is awesome talent but we have seen this so many times only for the senior system to break any talent they have and turn them into kick and chase *******.
He will struggle with EJantjies playing so well, so flyhalf is no. Fullback yes, centre no as he does not have the pace. Probably 12!
27 Sep 2010, 07:20 am
oh ffs…
27 Sep 2010, 07:21 am
Another PosterBoy!
27 Sep 2010, 07:30 am
editor of this mag prob from durbs…EJ is playing better than Lambie
27 Sep 2010, 07:37 am
Wonder where/what the Sharkies are doing this morning? After a defeat like that they should start poaching new players!
27 Sep 2010, 07:46 am
@mountaingoat(mountaingoat)-5: EJ doesnt fit Keo’s profile for the Cover!
27 Sep 2010, 07:56 am
both lambie and jantjies showed why they are not yet fit for the idolisation that goes on in saffa rugby.
talents to be sure but they have a long way to go yet.
27 Sep 2010, 07:57 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-6: by the way, the sharks still top the log sonny
27 Sep 2010, 07:57 am
EJ or Lambie not YET good enough to be Bok Nr 10 .. there is only one!! M Steyn!!! Butch as cover.
27 Sep 2010, 07:58 am
now i must off to work.
sharks!
27 Sep 2010, 07:58 am
“Allister Coetzee or Heyneke Meyer will replace Peter de Villiers as Springbok coach. SA Rugby magazine examines the candidates’ credentials”
Didnt this happen few Sundays ago?
27 Sep 2010, 07:58 am
that boesman ref had a shocker
27 Sep 2010, 07:59 am
@rangerman(rangerman)-9: Not for long
27 Sep 2010, 08:03 am
PL and EJ will get there. Loved the way how Carlos was couching Elton at any opportunity he got on Sat. EJ’s kicking was off but he had the sharks guessing all the time…..was he gonna kick, switch, grubber, pass…etc. Not scared of attacking the line and he finds those half gaps and creates opportunities for the guys on his outside.
27 Sep 2010, 08:09 am
Also noticed how the bulls supporters will criticize Lambie and Jantjies at every chance they get. They’r so worried that at last we may have a proper flyhalf and that Morne ‘jannie de beer’ Steyn may lose his place.
27 Sep 2010, 08:18 am
SA is stuck with Morne Stain till a new coach (Except Heyneke Meyer) is appointed
27 Sep 2010, 08:20 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-7: LMAO…EJ moet dan uit die son bly
27 Sep 2010, 08:23 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-17: morne will shine while du preez feeds him…hougaard will get there and 9 & 10 is not our problem! I think with all these moerse okes up north we would’ve dominated scrums but that is still our weakness
27 Sep 2010, 08:27 am
@mountaingoat(mountaingoat)-19: Hell even Benn Robinson instil fear into the Afriforum okes up North
27 Sep 2010, 08:28 am
the cover is kak…
27 Sep 2010, 08:29 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-20: LMAO sure sure….wys net blik sonder brein beteken absoluut niks
27 Sep 2010, 08:30 am
@mountaingoat(mountaingoat)-19: Apart from the scrum, the lack of creativity at 10 is why SA cant beat EU countries (EOYT) on a regular basis
27 Sep 2010, 08:32 am
Johannesburg – Former Springbok player Andre Venter on Sunday criticised civil rights group AfriForum for launching the “Stop Absa Quotas” campaign.
In an interview with Rapport newspaper, Venter said transformation was a reality and although he did not support racial quotas in sport, it was necessary to develop all players.
“AfriForum is placing unnecessary emphasis on some issues. They are worse than the ANC Youth League. They think the only way to handle these things is to create controversy, but it can backfire,” said Venter.
“What would AfriForum had done if the sponsor was SAB – would everyone then have stopped drinking beer?”
AfriForum launched the campaign against Springbok sponsor Absa after the banking group’s deputy chief executive Louis von Zeuner sent an SMS to SA Rugby Union boss Oregan Hoskins stating: “Regan, I think you should write to the major unions on black players – judging from today’s games Lions 2, Bulls 1, Cheetahs 2 – they are not respecting the spirit and goals of transformation. Louis.”
- SAPA
27 Sep 2010, 08:33 am
@mountaingoat(mountaingoat)-22: En dis daai klomp lee blikke wat die meeste raas op die site
27 Sep 2010, 08:36 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-21: What do expect from a website that does not respect the spirit and goals of transformation?
27 Sep 2010, 08:36 am
Andre Venter het ook vinnig sy tune verander nadat hy sy besigheid begin het .. BEE, snaaks wat geld aan ‘n ou doen
27 Sep 2010, 08:38 am
Dit is mos hoe PDV ook dinge doen (F Steyn meeting) lyk my die soort ding is in hul bloed :
Phokeng – Earl Rose has done it again.
The Lions player and his younger brother Jody deserted the Lions camp at the Platinum International Sevens Tournament here and returned to Johannesburg without permission.
The brothers were part of a Lions team that also included other contracted and Super 14 players Robert Kruger, Shandré Frolick and Chris Jonck.
The Lions team lost to the Sevens Springboks and @lantic Invitational side on Saturday. Earl Rose struggled with his form, and was involved in a stiff-arm incident against an opponent.
The Springbok, in the news earlier this month because he did not want to represent the Leopards as a loan player, apparently had had enough and decided to return to Johannesburg with his brother.
Lions coach Jorrie Muller received an SMS from both brothers: “They said that they are sorry about their performances and felt that their form was not up to standard. That is why they went home,” Muller told Sport24.
“I tried to phone them to find out what was going on, but they did not answer my calls. We therefore had to continue with only 10 players. To say that I’m angry and disappointed with their behaviour is to put it mildly.”
Muller said his team had been picked at short notice and it was hoped that they would provide good opposition for the Sevens Springboks with a view to the South Africans leaving for the Commonwealth Games in a week or so.
This may well signal the end of the road for the Rose brothers. Jody has played little this year due to a knee injury, while Earl has played club rugby.
As contracted players they had to play at the Royal Bafokeng Stadium. However, the chances are now slim that the union will honour or extend their contracts.
Muller said he would definitely recommend action against them.
27 Sep 2010, 08:40 am
Lions coach Jorrie Muller?
27 Sep 2010, 08:42 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-25: korrek & reg
27 Sep 2010, 08:44 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-29: jorrie kon nie eers rugby speel nie
27 Sep 2010, 08:45 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-24: i’ll have andre venter know that i was the first to make the connection between the afriforum & the anc youth league, at the time Tacitus was foaming at the mouth about closing accounts while Heavens Game – the most senile of fools k was piggybacked on Tac.
27 Sep 2010, 08:46 am
jorrie is beter as Earl & Jody
27 Sep 2010, 08:47 am
I must be honest… the new youngsters comung through are looking very good, especially the backs. Hopefully with the right management they can put the Boks back on top in the years to come. Guys like Basson, Jantjies, Mvovu, Hougaard and De Jongh. It looks like there may be some light at the end of the tunnel.
27 Sep 2010, 08:51 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-29:
WTF
27 Sep 2010, 08:53 am
pdv coaching the boks is like a ship without a rudder
27 Sep 2010, 08:53 am
Try this for a backline:
Taute
Mvovo
JdJ
Lambie
Basson
Jantjies
Mullet
27 Sep 2010, 08:55 am
@Roar for Mitch and King Carlos(RL)-35: Lions sevens coach this year and who knows what will happen next year?
27 Sep 2010, 08:56 am
@Roar for Mitch and King Carlos(RL)-35: Deemed for higher honours?
27 Sep 2010, 09:01 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-38: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I can’t believe this, just as President de Klerk was getting things right he has a brainfart and gets Jorrie a coaching job – that’s it day is ruined!
27 Sep 2010, 09:05 am
two eyed, yes i’m sure the will do well in the vodacom cup, but losing in the final against SWD
27 Sep 2010, 09:11 am
@Roar for Mitch and King Carlos(RL)-40:
27 Sep 2010, 09:19 am
@quotas_sux(quota_conrad_jantjies_is_jorrie_muller)-33: jorrie was ‘n quota speler
27 Sep 2010, 09:20 am
ek stem mountain .. maar ek het eerder ‘n jorrie in my span as ou earl
27 Sep 2010, 09:25 am
@Two Eyed(Two Eyed)-37:
9. Hougaard
10. Jantjies
11. Basson
12. De Jongh
13. Taute
14. Mvovu
15. Lambie
27 Sep 2010, 09:25 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-24: Daar vind ek ‘n plek vir Andre Venter op my k o n t lys
27 Sep 2010, 09:26 am
earl se pa ken mense wie mense ken wie ander mense ken wie besonderhede van ander mense het
27 Sep 2010, 09:28 am
@coma(coma)-46: I assume you’re a member a Afriforum?
27 Sep 2010, 09:28 am
@coma(coma)-46: Your membership monies been paid up to date?
27 Sep 2010, 09:32 am
@coma(coma)-46: slim kont
27 Sep 2010, 09:33 am
“Jannie spel asb mama ”
Jannie:”M…A…M…A”
“Mooi so Jannie.Sannie spel asb papa”
…Sannie: “P…A…P…A”
“Mooi So Sannie.
Sipho.Spel asb rassediskriminasie!”
27 Sep 2010, 09:33 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-7: Thats the reality of the SA rugy media. Thye have their prima-donnas who they will build up (Spies, F Steyn, Wynand, J Fourie and now Lambie).
while often taking pot-shots at guys like Elton and Adi with no factual basis. In one of Keo’s latests newsletter he said that Jantjies is not the future. did not offer any analysis. just said that he i snot the future. What rugby is he watching?
When are they going to put JDJ or EJ on the cover and blow smoke up their arses based on no facts (e.g. instilling fear in the opposition, talent, potential)
thats why we need a tribunal. For so-called journos like the ones at HSM.
27 Sep 2010, 09:34 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-48: Yeah well, this oak would sing another tune if he lost his spot to a quota. Easy to comment now that he is unaffected, probably negotiating a better interest rate on his house as we speak.
What on earth has this issue to do with him, I wonder. The peopol thinks SAB is the only company making beer, bliksemse neandertal.
27 Sep 2010, 09:34 am
mighty, afriforum is bietjie te lig in die broek, join die suidlanders pappie
27 Sep 2010, 09:35 am
Lambie is the next Reece-Edwards!! AUN!!!
27 Sep 2010, 09:36 am
they are there to drive an agenda. and it is not pretty. one day we will have good journalists who comment based on fact. I can only hope that its soon.
Because their prejudice is sickening.
27 Sep 2010, 09:38 am
moedeloos, like poepkop garry boshoff? now there is a racist d00s
27 Sep 2010, 09:42 am
@coma(coma)-53: Andre Venter = Legend….Coma = F-all! So go and join Afriforum!
27 Sep 2010, 09:44 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-58:
Land restitution = Samblief ons es hongor!!
27 Sep 2010, 09:45 am
@moedeloos(moedeloos)-52: If it was a once off shoot for the SA rugby cover, it wouldve been OK. However the repetitive nature of the prima-donnas who they will build up is just irritating!
27 Sep 2010, 09:46 am
As I mentioned before. Being able to bash into people with a ball under your arm doesn’t qualify you to comment on socio-political issues.
So I don’t pay Venter’s comments much mind.
27 Sep 2010, 09:46 am
LOL!!!!
‘White players are lazy’
Former Swallows striker Les Grobler says black players push harder than their white counterparts to make the grade in soccer.
27 Sep 2010, 09:48 am
@moedeloos(moedeloos)-52: If you do not like the website or the mag, just don’t it and don’t visit the site.
I do not subscribe to the glorification of young players. It is the fruit of desperation. They inevitably buckle under the pressure of expectation. It happens the world over. Danny Cipriani of England springs to mind, as do our own Gaffie Du Toit, Derick Hougaard, Ruan Pienaar etc.
The fact is that it is impossible to judge whether a player will be successful at international level before he plays there. Youngsters should not be included in the team because they are seen as potential saviours. They must be allowed to play at CC, Super rugby level and our Springbok “A” – more matches have to be organized for this team.
It would be an injustice to any youngster to be included into the Bok setup while the current management fall from pillar to post. They have no plan and not the rugby credentials to coach an international team.
27 Sep 2010, 09:49 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-60: agreed. like they had Jaque Fourie on the cover while injured. At the same time Adi was playing his socks off.
Someone commented at the time that it eqautes to Ian thorpe being on the cover instead of Michael Phelps after the last olympics.
I have no problem with building guys up, if it is on facts and does not have an agenda.
Keo and his ilk is writing Lambie into the team. How many articles have we seen about him, compared to Jantjes who is almot redefining the way SA flyhalves play their rugby and the boy can kick (excl saturday
27 Sep 2010, 09:51 am
@Tacitus(Tacitus)-61: Andre Venter is a much better version of Juan Smith
27 Sep 2010, 09:52 am
@Slartibartfart(Slartifartfast)-59: Land restitution = Almost there
27 Sep 2010, 09:54 am
@moedeloos(moedeloos)-56: OMG, do you actually still believe in objectivity? Wake up, dude. There is no such thing as objectivity. Each person, whether they are journalists, politicians or bank CEO’s have their own agenda’s. You just have to find the agenda that suits you and put your weight behind it. So, again, if you do not like the gist of things here, buzz off.
27 Sep 2010, 09:54 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-65:
And that is relevent in what way? (Not that I necessarily agree with your statement).
27 Sep 2010, 09:55 am
These dutchie unions (solidarity, afriforum etc) are so impotent it’s a joke. Do you honestly, for one moment, believe they would have the courage of conviction to close their ABSA accounts en masse? Did anyone think these frontier relics would bring the bank to its knees? What’s next? Perhaps a sweeping boycott of ESKOM, TELKOM, SPOORNET, TRANSNET and Adult World for their blatant BEE policies?
27 Sep 2010, 09:56 am
@moedeloos(moedeloos)-64: Ruan Pienaar looking in the mirror and seeing the different positions he had to play just made me sick! Nobody forced him to play anywhere!
27 Sep 2010, 09:58 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-66:
Samblief net ‘n sakkie pap…die trekker hy es stekkend al for die three years!
27 Sep 2010, 09:58 am
As repeated before, Lambie needs a season or two of Super 15 rugby before stepping out on to the test arena.
By then the circus would have left town…
27 Sep 2010, 09:59 am
@Couchcoach(GI POT)-67: not going anywhere. i have been blogging here since just after the Straueli days. i dont agree with most of the articles but i enjoy the platform to exchange opinions with other fans. (the real reason i visit here)
The other thing is that its nice to criticise the articles so the the folk who just believe the printed word blindly sees the other side.
Not going anywhere mate. but will protest if the **** i see is just that.
27 Sep 2010, 10:01 am
@Tacitus(Tacitus)-68: “bash into people with a ball under your arm” Contributed way more than this to SA rugby
27 Sep 2010, 10:01 am
**** = c.r.a.p
27 Sep 2010, 10:02 am
lambie gaan ook soos frans raak..vroeg ryp vroeg gef@k
27 Sep 2010, 10:04 am
@Slartibartfart(Slartifartfast)-55:
AUN = Another Useless Natalian!!
27 Sep 2010, 10:05 am
@katman(katman)-69:
Spoke to a lawyer friend of mine a while ago.
You’d be astounded to learn how many millions these guys are raking in from taking the government to court on civil rights issues and winning court cases with legal cost judgements going against government.
They are able to retain crack legal teams at government’s expense.
Simply because government is clearly at fault in almost every case, and don’t have a leg to stand on.
Nevertheless, government stubbornly just keeps pushing these things through, and these legal eagles are poring over every detail, cherrypicking the ones where they have the best chance of winning the case, and the cycle repeats itself.
Anyway, why on earth would people not be willing to leave ABSA? I certaily am. But I want to do it as part of a concerted campaign, not on my lonesome where the impact is not felt.
I’m ready to go once the campaign is launched, however.
27 Sep 2010, 10:06 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-74:
But his stupid utterances now is contributing zilch!!
27 Sep 2010, 10:07 am
EJ laat my dink aan Earl Rose … 2 great games en hy is die tiger woods van rugby … sy skoppe pale toe die laaste 2 weke het die lions amper gekos … ek gee hom 2 jaar dan sit hy en Earl in die kaapse hawe hoog op TIK
27 Sep 2010, 10:07 am
@moedeloos(moedeloos)-64: “redifining the way SA flyhalves play their rugby” PALEASE…how is running way behind the advantage line with runners aplenty outside you redifining the way flyhalves play?
Again, his success is part of a team dynamic where he is given options on the outside by his centres and wings. There are no forwards standing in his channel. That is what you call good coaching. Yes, his distribution is very accurate, his pace off the mark is adequate and his vision is good. I cannot comment on his defense because I have not yet studied that part of his game, but defense is secondary to attack in my book.
Lambie’s good performances at flyhalf are also the result of good coaching. His outside backs run straight and into space and it makes him look good – as it should. He does not do the little chips and back handed passes that Jantjies do, but his vision on the field is very good, as is his defense.
I reiterate that neither Jantjies nor Lambie should be in the Bok set-up right now. Let them play another season because it is a well documented phenomenon that youngsters who burst onto the scene battle in the next season when opposition coaches and analysts have found ways of countering their style of play. It is too early to name either of them as potential Boks.
Moreover, they will not be half as effective in a Bok game plan that revolves around forwards in the backline and a kick-chase game.
27 Sep 2010, 10:08 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-74:
You’re missing the point.
Is he a political strategist? Is he qualified to best calculate how we can use our clout to best serve our interests?
Is he aware of all the issues involved?
Or is he just afraid of a bit of conflict, and trying to enjoy the benefits of his transformation free career at the expense of the Adriaan Strausses and Tiaan Liebenberg’s of this world?
27 Sep 2010, 10:09 am
@quotas_sux(quota_conrad_jantjies_is_jorrie_muller)-80: elton is from Jhb.
so what do u think of the man as a player. facts only, no hyped vitriol based on opinion.
27 Sep 2010, 10:14 am
@moedeloos(moedeloos)-83:
“so what do u think of the man as a player. facts only, no hyped vitriol based on opinion” Huh????
27 Sep 2010, 10:14 am
@Couchcoach(GI POT)-81: wrong sir. the games i watched he is one of the only flyhalves that stands close to the gain line and is not afraid to attack it.
you make some good points though. i think he is a special player. if developed properly he and Lambie could form an amazing 10 – 12 axis for the boks with JDJ at 13.
Why dont these guys write them all up. instead of writing one up at the expense of the other.
27 Sep 2010, 10:15 am
@Slartibartfart(Slartifartfast)-84: well spotted :blush:
27 Sep 2010, 10:16 am
meant to ask for an argument based on facts.
27 Sep 2010, 10:21 am
@quotas_sux(quota_conrad_jantjies_is_jorrie_muller)-80: smaak my jy tik of is dit pta se stof wat jou so pot kuk laat kwyt raak
27 Sep 2010, 10:28 am
@katman(katman)-69:
Adult World’s BEE policies?
Nothing says transformation like BEE *** shop.
Are all the blow up dolls black?
All the dildoes too?
27 Sep 2010, 10:32 am
Ooohhh this looks like a good issue. Pitty my subscription’s expired…
27 Sep 2010, 10:32 am
@Tacitus(Tacitus)-78: Ja, ja. And the Volkstaat was going to be a thriving metropolis. And the Boeremag was going to be a well-drilled military operation. And Rapport was going to be a credible voice. Let’s face it, the last mass event that had a semblance of success was back in 1838. Since then the dutchies couldn’t organise a zol in the Transkei. ABSA is not pooping in its broeks right now.
27 Sep 2010, 10:33 am
@gunther(gunther)-89: Moerse dildoes.
27 Sep 2010, 10:34 am
@moedeloos(moedeloos)-85: I do not have a problem with your argument that the KEO journo’s are biased as are the guys at Rugby Mag – essentially the same journo’s
However, we cannot expect them to change their spots. I got so tired of seeing Spies, M Steyn and Pienaar on the cover of their mag while the first two were absolutely exposed as the one dimensional players they are, and the latter was injured and buggering off overseas.
They are biased, but so am I and so are you. Maybe raising your voice for points on the other side of the rugby scale brings balance, who knows?
I am just very worried about our rugby as a whole. We have two NZ coaches in our domestic competition and their respective teams play the most attractive rugby and suddenly we see that we do have options at flyhalf. Not because of the brilliance – only – of these two youngsters, but because of a team structure that allows them to distribute and alternate their points of attack. How many good flyhalves have we destroyed with our one dimensional game plan of crash ball 12′s and kick chase?
My concern is compounded by the various calls from all sides of the spectrum to have one or both of these players included in the Bok set-up where their talents will go to waste and their yet fragile minds will be contaminated and confidence dented. I do not think that I will survive this travesty and believe you me, it will happen if they go on the EOYT. Both players have their critics and these will sharpen their knives, ready for the meal when the inevitable failure is dished up.
27 Sep 2010, 10:34 am
@katman(katman)-92:
are you saying black dildoes are bigger than white dildoes?
can they run faster?
what about swimming?
do they float?
27 Sep 2010, 10:35 am
@kakman(kakman)-92:
Kakman has his mouth full…he is sucking on his *****!!
27 Sep 2010, 10:38 am
@gunther(gunther)-89: I work as a BBBEE Verification Analyst. Teazers approached us for a BBBEE-rating, we ultimately declined as we didnt want our name linked to them. I was not part of that decision though, was already contemplating interviewing the employees and have them demonstrate their competence. Free lapdances! Oh what could have been…
27 Sep 2010, 10:38 am
@moedeloos(moedeloos)-85: Lambie has at least been tested at S14 level where he excelled as a debutant. Jantjies has turned in a few good performances in a watered down Currie Cup. Neither should be hyped up this early, but if you’re going to choose one, surely Lambie is the more logical option than Jantjies, unless of course you consider racial dynamics more important than the facts.
27 Sep 2010, 10:39 am
@gunther(gunther)-94: You’d best ask Tacitus that. He’s the genetic predisposition expert on this forum. If anyone has intimate knowledge of black body parts vs. white body parts – and what they’re good for – it’s our Tac.
27 Sep 2010, 10:39 am
@Tacitus(Tacitus)-82: Closing your Absa accounts is fine and dandy. Who would you go to though?
27 Sep 2010, 10:40 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-96:
BBBEE Verification Analyst = Gravy Train Spin-off.
27 Sep 2010, 10:40 am
@katman(katman)-91:
Really? How would you know? You a fly on the wall in their board meetings.
Corporates are generally obsessed with risk management. Something like this would bother them more than you think.
I look at the effort that goes into their latest marketing campaign on Supersport – proclaiming how they have supported the Currie Cup for 25 years, and looking back at the highlights.
Which market do you think they’re targeting with that? And each time that add is broadcast, most supporters laugh out loud and associate ABSA with all the negative stuff that’s going on at the moment.
All those hundreds of millions invested, and it is getting them more bad publicity than loyalty from their customer base. What a massive marketing disaster.
Believe me, they’re worried about it. You may not be. But they are.
27 Sep 2010, 10:41 am
@Slartibartfart(Slartifartfast)-95: The response time for this razor sharp wit of yours is simply fantastic.
27 Sep 2010, 10:41 am
People should be careful with Lambie.
Remember he is still learning his trade as a 10.
Jantjies on the other hand, has been playing there for years.
27 Sep 2010, 10:41 am
@rangerman(rangerman)-9: they topped the log last year as well did they not?
27 Sep 2010, 10:41 am
@Sidewinder(Sidewinder)-97: Lambie was tested at 15!
27 Sep 2010, 10:41 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-96:
what’s wrong with being associated with Teazers?
they are market leaders.
The Teaze without the sleaze?
27 Sep 2010, 10:42 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-99:
Does it matter?
27 Sep 2010, 10:42 am
@MacToogie(MacToogie)-104: they did indeed and yet i still remember sitting in a box at loftus at the final…… strange
27 Sep 2010, 10:43 am
@kakman(kakman)-102:
Quite!
27 Sep 2010, 10:44 am
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-103:
you are quite right of course.
nothing worse than overdone lambie.
it becomes grey and chewy.
27 Sep 2010, 10:44 am
@Slartibartfart(Slartifartfast)-100: Wow. You really hurt my feelings. Im gonna go cry in a corner now. No, no, dont apologise. Im gonna be mad at you forever! *sulking*
27 Sep 2010, 10:45 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-111:
Dont be mad at me!! Be mad at Hoerewa!!
27 Sep 2010, 10:45 am
@Tacitus(Tacitus)-107: It does. All of the major guys have some sort of transformation initiatives going.
27 Sep 2010, 10:45 am
Die Azanian Youth Organisation (Azayo) het Donderdag gesê braaidag moet geskrap word omdat dit “wit kommersiële belange” dien.
“Dit word hoofsaaklik gedryf deur die wit deel van die Suid-Afrikaanse samelewing, wat hierdie nasionale dag van belang opportunisties gebruik as ’n braaidag,” sê Azayo in ’n verklaring.
27 Sep 2010, 10:46 am
@gunther(gunther)-110:
Haha.
I think he is a special talent, but people must be careful to rush him too quickly in what is an extremely complex position which requires a complex array of skills, some of which only comes by knowing and understanding the position and recognition of patterns and situations which only comes with time.
The fact that he is doing well without experience just tells you how good a prospect he is, but the decision making for a flyhalf decreases dramatically at Super rugby and test level and this is where experience becomes vital in decision making.
27 Sep 2010, 10:47 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-105: So what? The fact that he has acquitted himself so well in so many positions so early in his career speaks volumes for his ability. The fact is that the hype surrounding Lambie is more justified than any surrounding Jantjies at the moment. This much should be obvious, even to the race-obsessed crybabies.
27 Sep 2010, 10:47 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-113: Was it FNB or Standard Bank recently in the news over their bursary policy? The one which white employees do not qualify for?
27 Sep 2010, 10:48 am
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-115:
Sorry, decision making time decreases dramatically at higer levels.
27 Sep 2010, 10:48 am
morne, ruaan and butch are still better options than these 2 youngsters.
nonetheless, both these kids look good but I would like to see how they are in their 2nd season once the fearlessness has gone and expectation has arrived.
27 Sep 2010, 10:48 am
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-115:
He’s going to be as big a flop as Hugh Reece-Edwards.
27 Sep 2010, 10:49 am
@moedeloos(moedeloos)-64: hahahaha i remember that, they even wrote an article expressing their disatisfaction
Jacobs jols while Jaque flounders
“Jaque Fourie’s development is being stifled
by his loyalty to the Lions while Adi Jacobs
is thriving at the Sharks”.
27 Sep 2010, 10:49 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-113:
Then you also misunderstand the point.
The point is showing we have clout. A specific action is seriously upsetting to a very significant interest group. General transformation initiatives are everywhere and is not what is being opposed here. Instead, interference in rugby is being resisted in this very specific campaign.
27 Sep 2010, 10:51 am
@Sidewinder(Sidewinder)-116: “The fact that he has acquitted himself so well in so many positions so early in his career speaks volumes for his ability”
Dont come running crying its Ruan Pienaar/ Frans Steyn all over again
27 Sep 2010, 10:52 am
@quotas_sux(quota_conrad_jantjies_is_jorrie_muller)-114: Maybe they should call for the scrapping of electricity, cars, books and money too since they were introduced by the evil coloniser. Hell, they might as well do away with rugby and soccer as well for that matter.
27 Sep 2010, 10:54 am
@Tacitus(Tacitus)-122: Is someone writing you some protest songs and chants? You’re going to need an audio element when you take your grievance to ABSA in the form of a tollie-tollie outside their head office. Might I suggest some vintage Schuster, or even just a clever re-write of “Jamblikke Visblikke”?
27 Sep 2010, 10:55 am
@katman(katman)-98:
we better get him to investigate the controversy surrounding the new Julius Malema *** doll.
Its causing confusion amongst consumers who buy it and think that it is already inflated.
Little do they know, you have to read the fine print which tells you that, to inflate Julius, you nead to don a Black, Green and Yellow T-shirt and blow hot air up his trumpet repeatedly.
This has left some consumers with a bad taste in their mouth.
On the upside every Malema blow up doll purchased before the next SARS audit season comes with a free Range Rover Sport and Breitling wristwatch.
Also included in the offer are full BEE credentials for you and five of your relatives and/or closestg friends.
27 Sep 2010, 10:55 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-111:
27 Sep 2010, 10:56 am
So let’s see who our star Bok flyhalves have been in the last 10 years:
In no particular order:
Braam van Straaten
Andre Pretorius
Jannie de Beer
Butch James
Morne Steyn
Let’s go back a bit further:
Hennie le Roux
Henry Honnibal
Joel Stransky
I’m sure I’ve missed a few, but the point is that very few of those were younger than 25 when they produced match winning performances for the Boks. In fact, other than Morne Steyn, I think none of them were younger than 25.
So the Lambies and Jantjies of this world shouldn’t come into Bok contention for at least another 4 years or so.
Let them hone their trade at S15 level. Flyhalf is not a youngsters position like wing or even centre.
27 Sep 2010, 10:56 am
@Tacitus(Tacitus)-122: Fair enough. Though one then has to ask: Is rugby the only thing important enough for Afrikaners to stand up for?
27 Sep 2010, 10:57 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-123:
come now mighty.
if he was cape spanish you would be all over his schtick…
27 Sep 2010, 10:57 am
@katman(katman)-125:
You can make light of it all you like. Let’s wait and see the outcome of this little conflict, shall we.
27 Sep 2010, 10:58 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-129:
The sad answer seems to be “most likely.”
Which is part of the reason why we produce so many good rugby players. The passion for the game.
27 Sep 2010, 11:11 am
@gunther(gunther)-130: How many nights have you cried about Ruan Pienaar being shunted around?
27 Sep 2010, 11:11 am
Poor Sharks
27 Sep 2010, 11:14 am
58% of the votes in favour of the Lions to play semis!
So 42% is either vrek bang that their team wont make the semis or still angry at the Ref and the score!
27 Sep 2010, 11:17 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-135:
Huh?????
27 Sep 2010, 11:20 am
So 42% is either vrek bang that their team wont make the semis (Bulls) or still angry at the Ref and the score (SHARKS)!
27 Sep 2010, 11:21 am
@Slartibartfart(Slartifartfast)-136:
Old Hoerewa has got the cat by the poo-hole…again!!
27 Sep 2010, 11:23 am
@Slartibartfart(Slartifartfast)-138: Joost stole the cat
27 Sep 2010, 11:23 am
I say, where’s Heaven’s Game today?
27 Sep 2010, 11:25 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-139:
The cat should be restituted to it’s rightful owner…
27 Sep 2010, 11:28 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-133:
why should I cry about him?
you are trying too hard.
27 Sep 2010, 11:28 am
I see SA Rugby is going to do an exposé on poaching at school level…
I’ll put my full balance of Keo Dollars on betting that Waterkloof is named and shamed…
27 Sep 2010, 11:29 am
@Slartibartfart(Slartifartfast)-141: With the animal abuse happen in Tswane …….eish
27 Sep 2010, 11:29 am
Lambie is a 15 ……..plain and simple ! Another Johan Heunis .Pity the Sharks dont have an established world class 10 because Lambie is far better than Ludick.
27 Sep 2010, 11:29 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-133:
Goenta is a Bulls supporter, not a Sharkieboy…
27 Sep 2010, 11:30 am
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-115:
I agree. He’s too young and inexperienced right now for the big time. Let’s see how he handles at Super Rugby level.
27 Sep 2010, 11:30 am
@WP Till I Die(WP-Forever)-140:
same place you guys were after the super 14 final.
27 Sep 2010, 11:32 am
@gunther(gunther)-148:
those that weren’t moaning about the ref that is.
27 Sep 2010, 11:32 am
This guy will make it.
Unlike Pienaar and Steyn, he views versatility as a blessing, rather than a curse.
Enjoy your rugby, my son.
27 Sep 2010, 11:33 am
@Couchcoach(GI POT)-81: Your statement saying defense is secondary to attack….. Peter/Miur? is that you?
27 Sep 2010, 11:40 am
@gunther(gunther)-149:
Touché…
Love your work!
27 Sep 2010, 11:41 am
@Couchcoach(GI POT)-93: i agree with you on these guys should not be pushed into the national setup until after the RWC, but this obsession with wanting to play like Aus, NZ and France is crazy, jsut because it’s “entertaining” doesn’t mean we should adopt it, SA rugby is driven by a forward dominated game plan with strong defence, our strengths should be emphasized and appreciated, not admonished for something that is flashy, and in my opinion, not what rugby is about, the cricket scores coming out in tests these days are not good for the game in my opinion.
27 Sep 2010, 11:42 am
By the way, Goenta, speaking of Sharks supporters…
What’s the difference between Justin Bieber and Lady Gaga?
Only one’s got balls, and it’s not Bieber…
27 Sep 2010, 11:46 am
@MacToogie(MacToogie)-153: Agreed. As Heyneke Meyer puts it: There is only two types of rugby: Winning rugby and Losing rugby. I am entertained when my team wins.
27 Sep 2010, 11:50 am
@WP Till I Die(WP-Forever)-154:
plus radio gaga isn’t afraid of a meat bikini.
maybe the beebmeister is here on a surgical safari…
to locate his missing nuts.
maybe JZ will give him comrade Julius’ since he seems to be holding them at the moment.
27 Sep 2010, 11:53 am
@gunther(gunther)-156:
Seriously though: If you absolutely had to choose, would you pick Lady Gaga or Yo-Landi Vi$$er…?
27 Sep 2010, 11:53 am
Lambie had a poor game on Saturday by his standards ….but one cant judge him on just one poor performance. Imagine Lambie playing at 15 with a Michelak at 10 ?? Sharks backs in general were poor , with the exception of Mvovo (spelling ) and Mcleod ( spelling ) …….centre pairing is poor , Ludick very average and the Snail is a shocker !! Surely the youngster in the U21 , Mark Richards is a better player than Ndungane .
Jantjies is a better 10 than Lambie , but needs to lose a bit of weight , get a bit stronger , that buttocks of his certainly slows him down.
27 Sep 2010, 11:55 am
Why Richie McCaw is the most dominant rugby player on the planet
No comments everyone must agree.
27 Sep 2010, 11:57 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-133: That is quite true, the sharks have this innate ability to foock up a blokes career, they are the most consistent at stuffing guys around, and that includes the Cheetahs and lions. Lambie is brilliant at FB, but because they have NO clue what a FH is (they bought Skullet and Pretorius?????) they are going to mess this kid up too, im willing to put money on that.
27 Sep 2010, 11:58 am
@WP Till I Die(WP-Forever)-157:
kim kardashian…
the junk in the trunk…
(yolandie may well turn out to be a guy… I mean has anybody actually seen Robbie Klay recently?)
27 Sep 2010, 11:59 am
@NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-159:
Absolutely.
27 Sep 2010, 11:59 am
@NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-159:
His mother is a slapper.
27 Sep 2010, 12:03 pm
@Slartibartfart(Slartifartfast)-163:
Is she I wouldn’t know.
27 Sep 2010, 12:03 pm
@gunther(gunther)-161:
I thought he was working on a comeback tour with Jurie…a blend of Jurie Els’s “Vat-Vat” and Robbie Klay’s “Tokolos” songs…
27 Sep 2010, 12:04 pm
@WP Till I Die(WP-Forever)-165:
Mind you, if Robbie wants his comeback, he should just wipe it from Jurie’s chin…
27 Sep 2010, 12:04 pm
@NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-164:
Believe you me.
27 Sep 2010, 12:06 pm
@Slartibartfart(Slartifartfast)-167:
I’ll take your word for it, a slapper whose son is the worlds best rugby player.
27 Sep 2010, 12:06 pm
@WP Till I Die(WP-Forever)-166:
crikey
27 Sep 2010, 12:07 pm
@NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-168:
It’s so bad Richie might even be his own brother.
27 Sep 2010, 12:08 pm
@WP Till I Die(WP-Forever)-166: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA nasty
27 Sep 2010, 12:09 pm
@Slartibartfart(Slartifartfast)-170:
Ok we got it, if thats meant to be funny try again.
27 Sep 2010, 12:09 pm
@Slartibartfart(Slartifartfast)-170: Frik, you blokes have eaten your bird seed over the long weekend, these chirps are classic
27 Sep 2010, 12:10 pm
@NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-172:
Not funny just rumours.
27 Sep 2010, 12:11 pm
@MacToogie(MacToogie)-173:
Yer farking hilarious isn’t he.
27 Sep 2010, 12:16 pm
@NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-175:
Quite.
27 Sep 2010, 12:17 pm
@WP Till I Die(WP-Forever)-166:
Brilliant!
27 Sep 2010, 12:20 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-177:
Glad you enjoyed it…I was just sick when I read my post again…
27 Sep 2010, 12:24 pm
@Slartibartfart(Slartifartfast)-176: the problem with these Kiwis is they are miserable in winning or losing, Saffas find the humorous side of losing eventually, these blokes just seem to be in a constant state of misery, must be their dog ugly women that makes them so, paper bags are sold in trucks loads in the land of the long white cloud i hear.
27 Sep 2010, 12:28 pm
@WP Till I Die(WP-Forever)-178:
yes..
cancelled my cappucino order.
27 Sep 2010, 12:31 pm
@MacToogie(MacToogie)-179:
Don’t know about you, mate, but I have met some absolutely stunningly beautiful Kiwi women…
…Rachel Hunter for one…
27 Sep 2010, 12:31 pm
@MacToogie(MacToogie)-179:
Is that your South African humorous side coming out? Insulting people, your right Saffa’s are indeed very humorous.
27 Sep 2010, 12:31 pm
@MacToogie(MacToogie)-179:
If you ever work with a Kiwi…be prepared to explain every joke twice…
27 Sep 2010, 12:32 pm
@WP Till I Die(WP-Forever)-181:
Now go meet the rest!
27 Sep 2010, 12:34 pm
@WP Till I Die(WP-Forever)-181: You’ve actually met her??? Nice!
27 Sep 2010, 12:38 pm
@Slartibartfart(Slartifartfast)-183:
Are they the racist ones your grandfather used to tell you, they aren’t second nature to us so it takes us a bit longer.
27 Sep 2010, 12:39 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-185:
Yes, in my dreams, quite often…
27 Sep 2010, 12:40 pm
@WP Till I Die(WP-Forever)-181:
http:// rachel_hunter images6 com/rachel_hunter____ html
you still think so?
27 Sep 2010, 12:41 pm
@NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-186:
You battle with the other ones as well!
27 Sep 2010, 12:42 pm
MacToogie(MacToogie)-188:
h t t p : / / rachel_hunter (dot) images6 (dot) com/rachel_hunter____ (dot) html
27 Sep 2010, 12:43 pm
@Slartibartfart(Slartifartfast)-189:
Why don’t you share one with us and I’ll see if I get it, and don’t use an easy one about Bokke rugby.
27 Sep 2010, 12:49 pm
@NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-191:
Don’t want to explain it twice!
27 Sep 2010, 12:50 pm
@MacToogie(MacToogie)-153: Hi Mac, I do not for one moment profess or subscribe to an all out attacking game. However, when the situation presents itself to attack, you have to take it and then you have to have the personnel to make it work.
Any backline is completely dependent on the forwards dominating in both the set phases as well as the loose. That is why I believe that we need to stop looking towards individual players to ignite the spark. It is about the way that the team plays. We must get rid of forwards standing in the backline at first receiver and we must teach our backline players to run straight from depth. These are basics of backline play hat the Lions and the Sharks are perfecting.
In fact, unless WP get rid of carthorse De Waal, I may just, very secretly, start supporting these two sides because of their intelligent way of playing the game.
Oh, by the way, I am not **** or Pieter – do not have much time for either of them. My reference to attack over defense is that you seldom can teach a flyhalf to become more adventurous if he is pragmatic, but you can very easily teach a flashy player to defend. SA has turned the most brilliant rugby brains into bashing rhino’s for years now, so hence my habit of first assessing the players the attacking ability before his defensive ability. Defense is paramount – especially in test rugby and our defensive system is “in sy moer” thanks to PDV, Muir and Fool’s Gold
27 Sep 2010, 12:51 pm
@WP Till I Die(WP-Forever)-166: Phukkin beautiful!
27 Sep 2010, 12:56 pm
@Couchcoach(GI POT)-194: Ahhhhhh, ok on those points i can agree, thanks for clarifying.
27 Sep 2010, 13:44 pm
Roar
27 Sep 2010, 13:45 pm
Roar!
27 Sep 2010, 13:45 pm
ROAR!!!
27 Sep 2010, 13:48 pm
I cannot drop this feeling of depression – why Jorrie Muller whyyyy
wwwwwwwwhhhhhhhhhhhyyyyyyyyyyyyy
27 Sep 2010, 13:49 pm
27 Sep 2010, 14:41 pm
Here we go again….
The next big thing..With little evidence in the BIG TIME
Like:
Pienaar
F.Steyn
Spies
Meanwhile the likes of Brussow,M.Steyn,JP Pieterson etc produce week in week out for Boks and you dont see ridiculous hyper-inflated articles of them.
Typical keo BS
27 Sep 2010, 15:06 pm
“Patrick Lambie is the future of South African rugb”
WOW Could you Exaggerate any more?!?!
Keep that up and we will have another Hougaard story!!
27 Sep 2010, 15:18 pm
One Player is Never The Future of a Rugby Team, least not in South Africa! Brussow comes close though…
McCaw however defies the odds..
A flyhalf the future of SA Rugby… Believe it when I see it..Every time they have some one they mess it up!
27 Sep 2010, 16:02 pm
@mshiniwami(mshiniwami)-201:
Mshini
What do you think of Elgar Watts? Seeing that the Cheetahs are very short of FH options, maybe they should look in his direction, especially if Naas Olivier leaves for the bulls coz they’ll get no where with Louis Strydom…
27 Sep 2010, 16:26 pm
Lambie has looked most effective at 12 from what I’ve seen.
27 Sep 2010, 16:27 pm
@mxhosa(mxhosa)-204: They are looking. He will join them on a loan deal for the Super 15.
27 Sep 2010, 17:16 pm
@mxhosa(mxhosa)-204:
I rate Watts very highly.
27 Sep 2010, 18:05 pm
eish , Lambie is a 15 …..finish and klaar !! The kid is gifted and has a great head on his shoulders . Not the best kicker but as a player world class. Jantjies is a better 10 , but has a problem …. that buttocks of his could become a problem , it seems to get biogger each weekend.
27 Sep 2010, 18:09 pm
Jantjies hero is Januarie. He says he also wants to gain 150 kilograms and still get picked for every game because he’s ‘bleck’…
27 Sep 2010, 18:19 pm
ha ha , I thought Ricky had his baby ??? Honestly its not a colour thing but Elton’s pumpkin buttocks could become a problem …..another Benny MaCarthy story !!
27 Sep 2010, 18:27 pm
Could it be that he smuggles snacks onto the field in his back pockets..
27 Sep 2010, 18:54 pm
The future of SA rugby, I fail to understand how can you make such a statement just by looking and going by CC rugby, you do not make much sense Boet
27 Sep 2010, 18:55 pm
@mshiniwami(mshiniwami)-201: amen
27 Sep 2010, 18:59 pm
Another 14 Lambies and we’d be able to take on the world again. He’s talented, motivated and was picked on his ability rather than his pigment. Now once he’s been coached in the kicking department we’ll have another great rugger player coming out of Sharks country.
For now he’s just good.
27 Sep 2010, 19:03 pm
HA!
‘The Springbok Women will not be a force on the international stage until they are properly conditioned and the team is selected on merit’
So, no different to the Springbok Men then…
27 Sep 2010, 19:10 pm
The ‘Springbok’ women’s team could win a few pie eating contests though.
I’m not saying they’re fat but when they step on the scales it says, “No live stock please.”
27 Sep 2010, 19:22 pm
Great news … or is it.
Div escapes the axe…again!
Mon, 27 Sep 2010 19:00
Divvy’s job is safe – for now.
Springbok coach Peter de Villiers and his staff will remain intact ahead of the end-of-year tour following a review on Monday by a technical panel, although he will be getting some much needed help,/i>
27 Sep 2010, 19:36 pm
.
Krusty Saved !
27 Sep 2010, 19:45 pm
The EOYT will be the final insult.
27 Sep 2010, 19:58 pm
@Black Panther(Black Panther)-218: PDivvy is the man. SARU do not have the balls to fire him – his ticket to RWC 2011 in NZ is guaranteed.
oh it is true.
27 Sep 2010, 20:08 pm
@Black Panther(Black Panther)-218:
27 Sep 2010, 23:39 pm
Patrick Lambie is the future of South African rugby.
C.R.A.P
27 Sep 2010, 23:42 pm
Why would i buy SA Rugby magazine
when they post this C.R.A.P
28 Sep 2010, 09:46 am
elgar watts is heading back to boland next season.
if lambie is the future at this juncture, i am a little worried. sure the kid has got some serious talent, but he is untested at 10 on super rugby level. and his place kicking is poor.
if he is going to be playing 10 for the boks on EOYT, then we need another player to step up for goalkicks. this will alleviate some of the pressure that will be on his shoulders.
if we have to take lambie or jantjies on the EOYT, i would definitely go with lambie. it is too early for jantjies, at least we have seen lambie at 12 and 15 in super rugby.
28 Sep 2010, 09:59 am
@bloubulblog.co.za(bloubulblog)-224: no, we have only see lambie at 15 in superrugby.
neither elton nor lambie are worthy of the bs being heaped upon their shoulders as yet.
talents to be sure but many a bulletproof youngster became a wary veteran once lifes knocks got the better of him.
a little calm at this point will go a long way.
28 Sep 2010, 20:13 pm
when the heck is this mag out? spar doesn’t have it, checkers doesn’t have it… do you know how many times I’ve had to walk up and down looking for this stupid thing… and now you go and tell me Luke went with honest… I mean come on, I’m gonna have to spend another 2 hours at the gym
28 Sep 2010, 20:22 pm
@SpringbokSarah(SpringbokSarah)-226: how is the best loosie in the world doing?
Luke must come home soon….
29 Sep 2010, 12:41 pm
they sure seem to like their beards up North!
29 Sep 2010, 12:42 pm
hope all the fame doesn’t go to his (Lambie’s) head! maybe the EOYT is to early 4 him?
29 Sep 2010, 12:57 pm
No gents …..simple ….Lambie can play !! This kid has a head on his shoulders like a seasoned campaigner …..he needs to go the tour and be exposed to the Boks and get used to the pressures of being a Bok .In 4 years time he should be regarded as world class not just talented. The Aussies are doing it pretty well and with our hardened “old ballies” we couldnt beat them. Wake up SA ….its not about skop and moer !!
29 Sep 2010, 13:48 pm
@DT(Duncan)-230: Agree, Lambie is a good player with potential, and needs the EOYT experience.
30 Sep 2010, 12:04 pm
lambie and jantjies are great prospects for sa rugby.i strongly believe though that one of them should be included in the eoyt squad,just to give them a taste of test rugby..
wp’s lionel cronje is also one for the future
30 Sep 2010, 13:16 pm
must be honest, I didn’t enjoy Rich’s article on Luke. Felt like it was a poor attempt to make people feel sorry for Watson which failed miserably. If I, a Watson fan can say that; I can only begin to imagine the agony everybody else felt reading that.
Also it was like there was an underlying tone that tries to pin Luke up against Cheeky, when I really don’t think that’s the case.
Just feel Keo, Simon or JC could have done a better job.
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