Bok duo face drug probe
14 Dec 2010
Saru will appoint an Anti-Doping Tribunal to investigate doping allegations against Springboks Chiliboy Ralepelle and Bjorn Basson.
The players returned an adverse analytical finding for a prohibited stimulant, methylhexaneamine, following the match between South Africa and Ireland in Dublin on 6 November. Both players asked for their ‘B’ sample to be tested, which confirmed the findings of the ‘A’ sample.
The players will not contest the testing procedures or related matters under the 2010 Autumn Internationals Anti-Doping Programme and therefore the investigation and hearing will be conducted in South Africa.
Investigations remain on-going and a date for the hearing, as well as the composition of the tribunal, will be announced once those have been completed in the new year.
65 Comments
14 Dec 2010, 09:38 am
this is sounding ominous!
14 Dec 2010, 09:44 am
hmmm
14 Dec 2010, 10:13 am
Yes,well it was only a matter of time before drug testing caught up with the springboks.South African scientists have been helping springbok players get away with drug cheating for years.They have developed undetectable steroids that have served SA well over the last 30years.Thankfully countries like NZ buck this trend and refuse to illegally import South African drugs, the side effects i.e poor(on field) decision making and general dumbness ,out way the benefits for kiwis.Anyway ,hopefully these players will be made examples off and these finds will continue to encourage drug testers to beat South African scientists at their(I can spell)own game .
14 Dec 2010, 10:50 am
Bokke Baiter, isn’t a bit early to be spewing out bollocks that?
14 Dec 2010, 11:30 am
Scientists? trends? My my, this is all from a sheep shagging islander who supports a team made up of foreigners. Your boys have to take all their food intravenously because they are sooooo prone to ‘choking’. Oh how I love the pressure. New song for AB’s at the wc, Queen – PRESSURE.
14 Dec 2010, 12:03 pm
Drug cheats. Match fixers. Food poisoners.
What next?
14 Dec 2010, 12:15 pm
I don’t recall any foreigners in the current all black side unless your referring to ice toeva who moved to new Zealand as a three year old. You see ,there’s this amazing concept called immigration where people from one country move to another for various reasons,often the country they have left is struggling economically ,politically or is just plain dodgy.As a South African you,ve probably experienced this first hand ,watching all your friends and family pack up and move to England,Australia,NZ etc must be hard to take.Funny thing, We have a young South African family as neighbours, they moved to NZ last year and love it,guess what there 5 year old son wants to be when he grows up….correct an All Black……there’s your next generation ‘Eish’
14 Dec 2010, 12:36 pm
@bokke baiter : Highest suicide rate amongst teenagers in the world. No thanks mate. Have 3 friends who left for NZ in ’99. All 3 are back. Whatever you want to say about SA, we are cool with it. By the way, was looking at Wiki just now and the amount of domestic violence and wife beatings amongst your rugby players is something to behold. You live there and we will stay right here. As for our next generation, the whole world wants our youngsters due to their abilities and general all round qualities. Awesome opportunities I say. Just not to NZ, especially females. Likely to get hit by a depressed hubby.
14 Dec 2010, 12:56 pm
Well somewhere in the middle lies the truth of this I guess. It’s not as if the Bulls aren’t eyed suspiciously for this kind of thing… some even getting incurable diseases that disappeared.
But, in light of the mentorship Chilli has received from Smit, this does seem out of character. Don’t know much about Basson so who knows.
I doubt the real story will ever come out.If it does mean SA is looking for a new Captain as opposed to chili then I am worried it will be our favourite Watson… watch that space..
14 Dec 2010, 13:03 pm
Ok google boy, I don’t know where you get your facts from but they are quite clearly wrong,just completed some googling of my own and which country is ahead of NZ on the suicide league tables….The rainbow nation…. No pot of gold just a huge pot of misery…….as for NZ females getting slapped about…..they give as good as they take(ever seen the female all blacks) I’ll give South Africa this much if there was a league table for hot females, you would beat us hands down ,I wouldn’t recommend a kiwi girl to any man
14 Dec 2010, 13:06 pm
@bokke baiter : No ways, South African’s don’t commit suicide, we get shot, raped, tortured, killed and thrown into bins as babies or killed by mini buses.
We don’t have time for suicide, if I ever sat around thinking about that I’d be mugged for not paying attention.
14 Dec 2010, 13:15 pm
goyougoodthing2……….I salute you with a haka
14 Dec 2010, 13:16 pm
Look guys, no-one is accusing them of intentional dishonesty here. It’s a banned stimulant that has cropped up in positive tests by the drove this year, with athletes in all discplines around the world falling foul of it.
The fact remains though that it is currently banned, and under the anti-doping regulations ignorance is no defence.
Now I’m not saying that Chilli and Bjorn went to a health shop and bought a supliment that didn’t list the sunstance (but has it in it anyway as the regulation of this industry is basically non-existant) and took it as a training supliment…
But I’m not saying that it isn’t a possibility. I guess it will come out at the tribunal….
14 Dec 2010, 13:17 pm
‘Drug cheats. Match fixers. Food poisoners.
What next?’
Well, aside from all those, South Africans are also your parents and family. Hard to take is it?
14 Dec 2010, 13:18 pm
@stormersboy : I bet it will, like another player’s life ending disease that he recovered from. Yes the truth comes out… not.
14 Dec 2010, 13:20 pm
@bokke baiter : No please, rather don’t. The haka reminds me of having to wear Piupiu with black rugby shorts underneath, pretending my white little *** had any rythym at all in Primary School.
14 Dec 2010, 13:36 pm
@goyougoodthing2 : Do your research, this is the same drugs 9 Ozzies got done for before the Commonwealth Games. And a host of NRL players.
14 Dec 2010, 13:39 pm
@gecko : I know the story about the drugs, loads have been done for it… as I said above… somewhere in the middle is the truth.
14 Dec 2010, 14:18 pm
I don’t understand why ignorance cant be a defense, if you didn’t know the nose spray had this drug in it how can you be punished, seems very unfair.
14 Dec 2010, 14:24 pm
@Treehugger : 20, wait for the bombshell, i suspect the stimulant was in the supplements given to the players by their doctor. let’s see if SARU will hang these boys out to dry or they will own up to their appointed doctor messing up…
14 Dec 2010, 14:27 pm
@Transformation : No Transie. Read between the lines.
14 Dec 2010, 14:36 pm
@stormersboy : spell it out…
14 Dec 2010, 14:44 pm
@Transformation : Cant.
14 Dec 2010, 14:55 pm
@Transformation : you just mail me?
14 Dec 2010, 15:03 pm
@Transformation : I cant see a doctor for a sports team doing it deliberately, well not with this drug, i read it doesn’t really do anything to enhance the way you play.
@stormersboy : you cant make a statement like that, just saying “read between the lines” have thought about it and came up with nothing and now i have to know
pleeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 
14 Dec 2010, 15:06 pm
@Treehugger : I’d tell you.
But then I’d have to kill you
as well…..
14 Dec 2010, 15:12 pm
@stormersboy : yes
14 Dec 2010, 15:13 pm
as well :lol
its a chance i will take
14 Dec 2010, 15:43 pm
Buying their medicine over the wrong counter….
14 Dec 2010, 18:56 pm
3. bokke baiter
What a load of subjective gargage.
14 Dec 2010, 20:02 pm
So South Africa has the ‘Roids abusers and the match fixers.
Australia has the thieves and the drunks.
New Zealand has the drunks and the bullies that go to parties and slap teenagers around.
14 Dec 2010, 20:13 pm
they didnt buy the medicine at all..
Pierre gave it to them, apparently he has the best suppliers…
14 Dec 2010, 20:18 pm
You would know all about that my psychotic chum..
14 Dec 2010, 20:20 pm
@gunther : I dont know Pierre grunter, havent spent time in hospital for pulmonary embolisms at the age of 20 or 21..
I know he inherited it, right… inherited it when he imbibed them little purple pills huh?
14 Dec 2010, 20:22 pm
@TheTackler :
Food poisoners now?????
You know, some guys just can’t hold their arsenic.
14 Dec 2010, 20:22 pm
@gunther : speaking of psychosis, you seem to be stalking me grunter… every thread I appear on youre right there after..
seeking retribution perhaps?
14 Dec 2010, 20:26 pm
@gunther : 33 what do u mean, is Poops a pharmacist?
14 Dec 2010, 20:26 pm
Out of interest, is there anything else South Africans can insult New Zealanders with besides “sheepshagger” and “choker”? Yawn. And cringeworthy.
14 Dec 2010, 20:30 pm
@poppa69 : on the other thread i asked you a pertinent question and u never answered…
14 Dec 2010, 20:31 pm
@BishopsOD :
Take it on the chin mate. All part of the fun.
South Africans take plenty of leg pulling on this site…but we shouldn’t take it personally.
14 Dec 2010, 20:32 pm
@BishopsOD : what do new zealanders insult saffas with?
14 Dec 2010, 20:34 pm
grunter you really should put a leash on your lap dog Transie
the sycophantic yapping at your heels must get tedious?
14 Dec 2010, 20:45 pm
@Transformation : I must have missed the pertinent question, normally I just scroll past your posts because they dont normally contain pertinent questions, and Id rather go to the direct source of the opinion, rather then admire your copy skills..
14 Dec 2010, 21:26 pm
@poppa69 : yeah Poops
14 Dec 2010, 21:37 pm
@TheTackler :
>> “Drug cheats. Match fixers. Food poisoners.
>> What next?”
Next:
- 16% continues its steady decline and drops to 14%
- Wife beating reaches an all time high
- Teenage AB supporter suicide gets totally out of control
Must be hard working out lame excuses already for that, specially as it’ll be on the muddy isle. Maybe immigration can find a Suzi that flew in? Or blame Dingo Deans for not sitting on the sideline watching more of constipated Henry’s chokes.
What a bunch of degenerates, always pointing the crooked finger.
14 Dec 2010, 21:47 pm
Strange how people see things differently, i would have thought everyone would have chosen the Bok/Pom game as the best.
14 Dec 2010, 21:49 pm
oh thats the poll i am talking about.
14 Dec 2010, 21:55 pm
Honestly, i think they were drunk and took it as a party drug?
Who’s with me on this one. Anybody got any facebook photos of these two at a party before the drug test?
14 Dec 2010, 22:02 pm
@Treehugger : i think it shows what a poor season we had, England SA was an ordinary game which they didn’t pitch up to.
14 Dec 2010, 22:17 pm
Poops
Why would I seek retribution?
We all just want you to make a speedy recovery..,
We don’t want to see another meltdown
14 Dec 2010, 23:41 pm
@stormersboy : I’m accusing them of intentional dishonesty.
15 Dec 2010, 00:09 am
@Treehugger : It wasn’t a nose spray for a cold. They had their colds treated in SA, not in UK. And this drug becomes undetectable after only 3 days, so their nose spray would have worked itself out by the time of their test.
The drug was, most likely, in their gym powder supplements which they took all the way through the tour, including the days of the first two tests where their performace-enhancing drugging was finally exposed.
They didn’t swallow this drug with their hotel corn-flakes. It was deliberate. They simply didn’t think it would be revealed in their tests. They were wrong.
15 Dec 2010, 01:03 am
Guilty verdict has been reached by all kiwi’s the world over…as it would have been if any AB had the same press…except the Bok response would have been putting it under a heading such ” We now know why the Kiwis have kicked our asses so hard and for so long–drug cheats”.
15 Dec 2010, 03:17 am
Just to clarify this issue (Im a Strength and Conditioning coach, train with Bodybuilders/Athletes/Powerlifters) – without any confirmation, the stimulant they tested positive for (Im 99.99% sure) was 1,3 Dimethylamylamine.
It is a compound found in many pre-workout (Gym, does little for game performance) supplements – used worldwide by recreational gym rats (hell, every 2nd 16 year old you see trying to get big in the gym is on this stuff).
Its the same thing 9 Australian Rugby League players tested positive for. It’s a legal supplement, but banned by sporting bodies.
Without the facts, one can deduce that these guys simply took a few scoops before a Gym session that week, were then tested closer to the match, and tested positive.
Just thought I would post my 0.2 cents, to clear up the misinformation going on here.
15 Dec 2010, 03:19 am
@captain fantail :
>> ” We now know why the Kiwis have kicked our asses so hard and for so long–drug cheats”.
I think you mean something like “It’s confirmed, the cheats are exposed at yet another level”
@TheTackler :
>> “The drug was, most likely, in their gym powder supplements which they took all the way through the tour, including the days of the first two tests where their performace-enhancing drugging was finally exposed.”
The word is “performance”, “mace” is normally a type of tear gas. Unless you have slipped up on this thread and are exposing how the Kiwis get their illegal doses, and why Carter’s eyes go wide and always has those crocodile tears at the key matches from overdose.
>> “They didn’t swallow this drug with their hotel corn-flakes. It was deliberate. They simply didn’t think it would be revealed in their tests. They were wrong.”
Well probably they assumed the SA scientists had developed it to as high a standard as the Kiwi one.
All-in-all Chilli-boy’s unfortunate incident will be good for SA rugby, he is a liability on-field.
15 Dec 2010, 03:38 am
Ho hum……….so two Bok players have some form of “banned” substance in their tests……at this stage no-one, including the team Dr, seems to know exactly what was taken, when, unknowingly or otherwise, but yet again we have a couple of a-holes that want to jump in and kick the whole Bok system, country …….the whole shabangs. Tackler, sometimes you act like a childish little w anker. Grow the f u k up!
15 Dec 2010, 04:17 am
@jaimie : It’s banned as a performance enhancer — which is exactly why gym pumpers take it before a work-out.
It’s not an innocent substance like a caramel ice-cream topping or a nose-cold spray. It’s in that gym powder to boost performance.
And these two drug-cheats got well and truly BUSTED.
15 Dec 2010, 06:48 am
@TheBoksAreBack : chilli boy may be a liability, as you say. but the more important issue for me is why the players were not made aware that the substance used would lead to exaclty these kinds of problems. guess we can thank our lucky stars victor / bismark, or any of the others “important” players werent tested that day
15 Dec 2010, 16:29 pm
51. TheTackler
It’s good that the so called “The Tackler” finds release in these columns. If it were not so for this non breast fed person he would more as likely focus on your daughters )or sons). Count your blessings and let him contibnue with his irrational rantings.
He is clearly unwell and is in need of psychological evaluation.
In other words he is fucked in the head!
16 Dec 2010, 03:48 am
@TheTackler : Truly spoken like someone with absolutely no knowledge on the topic at hand. It is the equivelant of having a very strong cup of coffee, or a few red bulls – it does not turn them into professional bodybuilders in the gym.
How about you keep your “opinions” to topics where you can at least keep up with that is going on.
18 Dec 2010, 10:29 am
You can have ten Red Bulls and twenty espressos and you’ll still come out clean in any drug test. Caffeine isn’t a prohibited performance-enhancing drug.
The gym powder taken by these two drug-cheats IS a banned performance-enhancer, and that’s precisely why they’ve been busted.
You only get busted for BANNED drugs, not for acceptable ones.
Just suck it up. They ARE drug-cheats.
18 Dec 2010, 10:34 am
@TheTackler : Ok they are drug cheats. Is it because they are of a certain pigment ??
18 Dec 2010, 12:18 pm
@bananas : Is that what YOU think?
18 Dec 2010, 13:22 pm
They are not drug cheats, they wouldn’t risk it, it would be career ending, well for Chilli the way he plays is career ending but Basson has so much potential.
@TheTackler : I specially have my spell check thingie on for you
18 Dec 2010, 13:23 pm
@Treehugger : Or should i say i am paying attention to it now that i figured out how to use it.
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