Comments on: Bok duo face drug probe

By: Treehugger

Treehugger — Sat, 18 Dec 2010 11:23:14 +0000

@Treehugger : Or should i say i am paying attention to it now that i figured out how to use it.

By: Treehugger

Treehugger — Sat, 18 Dec 2010 11:22:09 +0000

They are not drug cheats, they wouldn’t risk it, it would be career ending, well for Chilli the way he plays is career ending but Basson has so much potential.

@TheTackler : I specially have my spell check thingie on for you

By: TheTackler

TheTackler — Sat, 18 Dec 2010 10:18:42 +0000

@bananas : Is that what YOU think?

By: bananas

bananas — Sat, 18 Dec 2010 08:34:25 +0000

@TheTackler : Ok they are drug cheats. Is it because they are of a certain pigment ??

By: TheTackler

TheTackler — Sat, 18 Dec 2010 08:29:34 +0000

You can have ten Red Bulls and twenty espressos and you’ll still come out clean in any drug test. Caffeine isn’t a prohibited performance-enhancing drug.

The gym powder taken by these two drug-cheats IS a banned performance-enhancer, and that’s precisely why they’ve been busted.

You only get busted for BANNED drugs, not for acceptable ones.

Just suck it up. They ARE drug-cheats.

By: jaimie

jaimie — Thu, 16 Dec 2010 01:48:33 +0000

@TheTackler : Truly spoken like someone with absolutely no knowledge on the topic at hand. It is the equivelant of having a very strong cup of coffee, or a few red bulls - it does not turn them into professional bodybuilders in the gym. How about you keep your "opinions" to topics where you can at least keep up with that is going on.

By: Bludeks

Bludeks — Wed, 15 Dec 2010 14:29:40 +0000

51. TheTackler
It’s good that the so called “The Tackler” finds release in these columns. If it were not so for this non breast fed person he would more as likely focus on your daughters )or sons). Count your blessings and let him contibnue with his irrational rantings.
He is clearly unwell and is in need of psychological evaluation.
In other words he is fucked in the head!

By: chazza

chazza — Wed, 15 Dec 2010 04:48:49 +0000

@TheBoksAreBack : chilli boy may be a liability, as you say. but the more important issue for me is why the players were not made aware that the substance used would lead to exaclty these kinds of problems. guess we can thank our lucky stars victor / bismark, or any of the others "important" players werent tested that day

By: TheTackler

TheTackler — Wed, 15 Dec 2010 02:17:46 +0000

@jaimie : It's banned as a performance enhancer -- which is exactly why gym pumpers take it before a work-out. It's not an innocent substance like a caramel ice-cream topping or a nose-cold spray. It's in that gym powder to boost performance. And these two drug-cheats got well and truly BUSTED.

By: whatever

whatever — Wed, 15 Dec 2010 01:38:56 +0000

Ho hum……….so two Bok players have some form of “banned” substance in their tests……at this stage no-one, including the team Dr, seems to know exactly what was taken, when, unknowingly or otherwise, but yet again we have a couple of a-holes that want to jump in and kick the whole Bok system, country …….the whole shabangs. Tackler, sometimes you act like a childish little w anker. Grow the f u k up!

By: TheBoksAreBack

TheBoksAreBack — Wed, 15 Dec 2010 01:19:39 +0000

@captain fantail : >> ” We now know why the Kiwis have kicked our asses so hard and for so long–drug cheats”. I think you mean something like "It's confirmed, the cheats are exposed at yet another level" @TheTackler : >> "The drug was, most likely, in their gym powder supplements which they took all the way through the tour, including the days of the first two tests where their performace-enhancing drugging was finally exposed." The word is "performance", "mace" is normally a type of tear gas. Unless you have slipped up on this thread and are exposing how the Kiwis get their illegal doses, and why Carter's eyes go wide and always has those crocodile tears at the key matches from overdose. >> "They didn’t swallow this drug with their hotel corn-flakes. It was deliberate. They simply didn’t think it would be revealed in their tests. They were wrong." Well probably they assumed the SA scientists had developed it to as high a standard as the Kiwi one. All-in-all Chilli-boy's unfortunate incident will be good for SA rugby, he is a liability on-field.

By: jaimie

jaimie — Wed, 15 Dec 2010 01:17:32 +0000

Just to clarify this issue (Im a Strength and Conditioning coach, train with Bodybuilders/Athletes/Powerlifters) – without any confirmation, the stimulant they tested positive for (Im 99.99% sure) was 1,3 Dimethylamylamine.

It is a compound found in many pre-workout (Gym, does little for game performance) supplements – used worldwide by recreational gym rats (hell, every 2nd 16 year old you see trying to get big in the gym is on this stuff).

Its the same thing 9 Australian Rugby League players tested positive for. It’s a legal supplement, but banned by sporting bodies.

Without the facts, one can deduce that these guys simply took a few scoops before a Gym session that week, were then tested closer to the match, and tested positive.

Just thought I would post my 0.2 cents, to clear up the misinformation going on here.

By: captain fantail

captain fantail — Tue, 14 Dec 2010 23:03:26 +0000

Guilty verdict has been reached by all kiwi’s the world over…as it would have been if any AB had the same press…except the Bok response would have been putting it under a heading such ” We now know why the Kiwis have kicked our asses so hard and for so long–drug cheats”.

By: TheTackler

TheTackler — Tue, 14 Dec 2010 22:09:00 +0000

@Treehugger : It wasn't a nose spray for a cold. They had their colds treated in SA, not in UK. And this drug becomes undetectable after only 3 days, so their nose spray would have worked itself out by the time of their test. The drug was, most likely, in their gym powder supplements which they took all the way through the tour, including the days of the first two tests where their performace-enhancing drugging was finally exposed. They didn't swallow this drug with their hotel corn-flakes. It was deliberate. They simply didn't think it would be revealed in their tests. They were wrong.

By: TheTackler

TheTackler — Tue, 14 Dec 2010 21:41:44 +0000

@stormersboy : I'm accusing them of intentional dishonesty.

By: gunther

gunther — Tue, 14 Dec 2010 20:17:50 +0000

Poops

Why would I seek retribution?

We all just want you to make a speedy recovery..,

We don’t want to see another meltdown

By: Oxy moron

Oxy moron — Tue, 14 Dec 2010 20:02:32 +0000

@Treehugger : i think it shows what a poor season we had, England SA was an ordinary game which they didn't pitch up to.

By: Oxy moron

Oxy moron — Tue, 14 Dec 2010 19:55:50 +0000

Honestly, i think they were drunk and took it as a party drug?
Who’s with me on this one. Anybody got any facebook photos of these two at a party before the drug test?

By: Treehugger

Treehugger — Tue, 14 Dec 2010 19:49:11 +0000

oh thats the poll i am talking about.

By: Treehugger

Treehugger — Tue, 14 Dec 2010 19:47:41 +0000

Strange how people see things differently, i would have thought everyone would have chosen the Bok/Pom game as the best.