Beast stays with Sharks

Beast stays with Sharks

The Lions have failed to bring Beast Mtawarira to Joburg.

According to The Mercury, the loosehead prop has signed a three-year contract with the Sharks and been pushed up to the same salary bracket as the likes of John Smit, despite being a relatively inexperienced Bok.

‘The Beast is a big part of the Sharks having come from nowhere to advance from the Sharks Academy to the senior team and then to the Springboks,’ coach John Plumtree told the newspaper. ‘He has gone on to become one of the best loosehead props in the world and our coaching staff are excited about continuing his development.’

However, while Mtawarira’s immediate future has been determined, the boardroom battle between the Sharks and Lions could continue well into 2011 after the Sharks lodged a complaint against the Lions with Saru. The Sharks said the Lions offered Mtawarira an alternative contract when he already had a binding contract with the Sharks, which was in breach of the governing body’s regulations.


141 Comments

  • 1.benno_on_tow: Reply to this comment

    Three words come to mind:

    Pot

    Kettle

    Black

  • 2.Kietzphat: Reply to this comment

    BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTT will still ring out at King’s Park!

  • 3.cab: Reply to this comment

    ah some rugby news, how was he ever not on the same salary as smit to start with, Beast is probably the best LH in world rugby at the moment and with Bismarck and Alberts is probably the Sharks team imo.

  • 4.Oxy moron: Reply to this comment

    @cab : Yes, Sharks are going to have a really solid year. Consistency with Running Rugby.

  • 5.grant10: Reply to this comment

    best for boks that the current bok front row stays intact at the sharks

  • 6.Tacitus: Reply to this comment

    Point 1:

    Anyone paying John Smit more than Beast Mtawarira needs their head read. In fact, if Smit is earning more than Willem Alberts, Jean Deysel or Bismark du Plessis then we have a prime case of fruitless and wasteful expenditure on our hands.

    Heck, based on his current abilities, Smit should be no higher than a mid bracket earner – on a similar level to Keegan Daniel, Hargreaves or Adrian Jacobs at the Sharks.

    Point 2:

    The Sharks really don’t have a leg to stand on with this complaint, considering their own actions over the last few seasons.

  • 7.Oxy moron: Reply to this comment

    @Tacitus :
    Point 2:

    Depends on whether they broke the law don’t you think.
    Or in other words who has better lawyers.

  • 8.Tacitus: Reply to this comment

    @Oxy moron :

    Last I heard, the court ruled against the Sharks in the Mapoe case.

  • 9.crikey mate did you see that shark: Reply to this comment

    what a new article..?!?! so the rumours that keo closed down wasnt true after all..
    other rugby websites at least had some articles the last while..

  • 10.Oxy moron: Reply to this comment

    @Tacitus :
    So therefore neither do the Lions

  • 11.Tacitus: Reply to this comment

    @Oxy moron :

    My point is that the Sharks are rather hypocritical if they complain about other teams doing exactly the same thing they’ve been doing for the last 2 years.

  • 12.sharks_lover: Reply to this comment

    @Tacitus : again your lack of knowledge about anything comes to the fore , as longs as its blue you think ur knowledgable

    the bulls can only wish they had john smit

    for a clown you sure like pointing fingers?? why not worry about your team thats on the DOWN

    let us worry about our team k?? just a thought

  • 13.sharks_lover: Reply to this comment

    @crikey mate did you see that shark : hiyas aunty crikey sharky lol hows things on ur side?? hope you had a great festive season , and HNY to ya

  • 14.Puma: Reply to this comment

    @sharks_lover : 12 – Sharky, Any franchise would be paying John top dollar. Also like you said John will no doubt be in some sort of coaching role at the Sharks once he stops playing. You look after that kinda talent. Pleased he is at the Sharks.

  • 15.crikey mate did you see that shark: Reply to this comment

    @sharks_lover :
    galo sir
    had a fab xmas and new years ty and urself?
    the year of the super cup for the sharks!!

  • 16.Puma: Reply to this comment

    Okay have to go out. Hope Kallis and Steyn are still in by the time I get back.

    Catch up later.

  • 17.sharks_lover: Reply to this comment

    @Puma : puma did you get my mail??

    catch you laters bro enjoy

  • 18.sharks_lover: Reply to this comment

    @crikey mate did you see that shark : Doing great ty , yeah as for super cup we can only hope , but our depth is looking good.

  • 19.Tacitus: Reply to this comment

    Hehehe. Got to admire their optimism.

  • 20.daydreamer: Reply to this comment

    The Beast “a relatively inexperienced Bok” what a load of BS. 3 years with Boks and 26 tests.

    John Smit doesn’t deserve any money cause he is a useless spare wheel to any team he is with.

    Look in the mirror John…retire already PLEASE!

  • 21.sharks_lover: Reply to this comment

    @daydreamer : look in the mirror urself , you will see a moron, enough said

  • 22.benno_on_tow: Reply to this comment

    “Sharks CEO Brian van Zyl commented that the Sharks are paying “top dollar” to keep the highly sought after 26-year-old front ranker in Durban after increasing Mtawarira’s salary to that of seasoned Springboks such as John Smit.”

    Ummmm if you wanna hang onto your players then pay them what they are worth!

    The real winner in this scenario is the Beast as he doesn’t have to leave Durban & gets a pay rise.
    I reckon he deserves every cent he earns from his new contract & he can thank the Lions for making the Sharks realise his value!

  • 23.Transformation: Reply to this comment

    there go the hypocritical Sharks, bunch of arseholes their whole management! straueli was poaching the ebersohn brothers just a couple if months back and the kids had to tell him to wait for the ‘window period’ but he went on and gave them ultimatums! now he’s one to lodge complaints with SARU, what a w_anker!

  • 24.Mighty Grogg: Reply to this comment

    KEO writers, the best “copy and paste” journalists the rugby world has seen.

    This site is a joke. Go to Rugby365 if you want some proper rugby journalism.

  • 25.Redlion is doing pre-season conditioning: Reply to this comment

    ROAR!

    I can’t believe that those miser Orks were paying Beast an absolute pittance.

    Now thanks to the Lions the Orks were forced to pay Beast a market related salary (unbudgeted of course) hell we even forced them to pay JPP, Kanko and fat boy Smit a decent salary.

    Orks know this … the cold war will continue and no player is safe from a Gumede cheque. The good guys will do to you what the USA did to the USSR … bankrupt you.

    p.s.

    Kallis congratulations on your 40th ton. 1 more than Ponting and coming in 7 less tests WOW.

  • 26.Tacitus: Reply to this comment

    I can’t help but wonder whether the Lions would also have offered R14m for John Smit…seeing as Beast and Smit are apparently on a par as far as the Sharks are concerned.

  • 27.BlackShark: Reply to this comment

    Let’s be honest, Sharks fans: the Sharks shouldn’t be acting all self-righteous on this one. Remember the Mapoe saga?

  • 28.>^..^< katman: Reply to this comment

    I bet Brian van Zyl can’t look his kids in the eye. I’d be bloody ashamed to be related to/associated with such a blatant, underhanded hypocrite. Hope the court case embarrasses the hell out of him.

  • 29.Slartibartfast: Reply to this comment

    Ouch!

    England 584/7 (167.0 ov)

    Four Oz bowlers have broken a hundred :shock:

    Lead now 304…

  • 30.Slartibartfast: Reply to this comment

    Cricinfo…

    “Ben Hilfenhaus, who is as willing as he is unable, will share the new ball.”

  • 31.Great White Shark: Reply to this comment

    @Tacitus :

    Legally, The Sharks have a leg to stand on if it is found that the Lions did breach regulations.

  • 32.Great White Shark: Reply to this comment

    Don’t you girls worry about who’s wrong or right…worry about the coming Super 15.

    The Sharks are gonna get you Gautengalengers!!

  • 33.Transformation: Reply to this comment

    @Great White Shark : blah blah blah…the Sharks are the last team to be crying about this…how did mapoe end up training at the shark tank while contractually bound to the cheetahs? harold verster told van zyl from the get go to leave mapoe but the sharks continued till they lost multiple arbitration cases. bloody hypocrites!

  • 34.Mongril: Reply to this comment

    @Mighty Grogg :

    Relax Matey – nobody comes here for the journalism.

    It’s rather like choosing the Spur over the Famous Butcher’s Grill for supper. You don’t go for the chef, but for the vibe and to let the kids have a play!

  • 35.Slartibartfast: Reply to this comment

    @Mongril :

    Grogg does not understand what a blog is, a place where you DO copy and paste articles. It is not a news site with proper journalists…blerrie hell, just look at their pictures at the bottom of this page for confirmation!

  • 36.sparticus: Reply to this comment

    @Tacitus :

    Point 1 – Disagree , John Smit is the Bok Captain up until last year and should things change for him salary wise it will happen this year when he gets reviewed.

  • 37.Slartibartfast: Reply to this comment

    171/7…Tremlett on a hatrick…

  • 38.Great White Shark: Reply to this comment

    Beast would never have gone anyway. His church and a winning team are both in Currie Cup country.

  • 39.Mighty Grogg: Reply to this comment

    @Mongril.
    You’re right, that’s just what this site is, a kiddies playground.
    Cheers

  • 40.Redlion is doing pre-season conditioning: Reply to this comment

    bloody Shark hypocrites!

  • 41.Great White Shark: Reply to this comment

    If the Lions had Beast, Butch, Pienaar and Steyn it STILL wouldn’t help them.

    It goes down to team dynamic, spirit and a desire to win.

    That Joburg zol and party ethic does very little for serious rugby players.

  • 42.Redlion is doing pre-season conditioning: Reply to this comment

    @Great White Shark(Predawn) : Roar

    dawn luv why you so scared if the Lions?

  • 43.Redlion is doing pre-season conditioning: Reply to this comment

    @Great White Shark(Predawn) : Roar

    dawn luv why you so scared of the Lions?

  • 44.>^..^< katman: Reply to this comment

    @Great White Shark(Predawn) : Ha ha, you sound like you desperately want that to be true.

  • 45.Redlion is doing pre-season conditioning: Reply to this comment

    Yes!

  • 46.Great White Shark: Reply to this comment

    Come the Super 15 and the Lions are terrified of their own shadows.

  • 47.Redlion is doing pre-season conditioning: Reply to this comment

    Roar

  • 48.stormersboy: Reply to this comment

    I believe that our group will be the most closely contested group in this coming super competition. The Sharks, Bulls and Stormers will play well, but occasionally so will the Cheetahs and Lions. All the teams can actually (and have in the last year) have the beating of the other teams, particularly at home.

    This means that in my opinion we will be unlikely to host a home semi, which means a semi final place at best for our sides. But thems the breaks I guess…

    And I’m glad that Beast is at the Sharks. Good to keep that front row together. we’ll need that sort of “understanding” come WC time.

  • 49.Redlion is doing pre-season conditioning: Reply to this comment

    Orks will not make it into the play-offs … not with the Cheatahs and Mitch’s Lions around.

  • 50.Great White Shark: Reply to this comment

    The Cheetahs and Lions will make South Africa proud this year..and when I woke up my coffee was cold.

    New year, same tired old story.

    Lions please…playing the Aussie and Kiwi teams are not the same as playing the Wannabes and All Blecks.

  • 51.grant10: Reply to this comment

    wish the SA teams would rather get sa players abroad back as opposed to the raping and pillaging of our home franchises…

  • 52.>^..^< katman: Reply to this comment

    @grant10(grant10) : I hope you’re not referring to the Lions here. Because it’s pure self-defense.

  • 53.grant10: Reply to this comment

    @>^..^< katman(katman) : no mate….mean it sincerely, stormers and most franchises have blood on there hands….i understand lions frustrations….just dont think its good for our rugby….and would rather have some saffas back than this constant poaching…by all saffa teams…

  • 54.grant10: Reply to this comment

    gents…gotta run…have a great day …and go Proteas!!

  • 55.Redlion is doing pre-season conditioning: Reply to this comment

    I hope the Proteas can do to India what the Poms are doing to the convicts right now, rip them a new one.

  • 56.Taahirah: Reply to this comment

    @grant10(grant10) : Nice to see you back.

  • 57.Tegejo: Reply to this comment

    Howzit guys. All the best for the new year. Just came back from Oz. Hope you have a great year, appreciating what the Bulls will do for SA rugby, yet again!

  • 58.>^..^< katman: Reply to this comment

    @Tegejo(Tegejo) : You mean dragging us back to 1986? Can’t wait.

  • 59.Tegejo: Reply to this comment

    @>^..^< katman(katman) : Nah, being the only competitive side in the Super15. Bulls and Stormers. For the rest of SA…. ESPECIALLY the dreadful Lions, I see a very long season….

  • 60.John Galt: Reply to this comment

    Well done Beasty, you got what you really wanted.

    He was never going to leave, lets face it. He is now part of a young champion side and going to a very green but hungry Lions side might have done his career a slight disservice.

    Look at Alberts, I dont think he is now any better a player he was 3 seasons ago with the Lions, he is just playing in a team with a better pack and team around him and he is finally getting the recognition he deserves.

    Beast also recently bought a massive house in the Durban North area I think for him and his missus, not the type of thing a bloke does if he is looking to upsticks every time his contract is up for renewal.

    Now you have to perform my boy, no excuses.

  • 61.Tegejo: Reply to this comment

    I nearly cried, laughing when I read the young champion side bit…..

  • 62.>^..^< katman: Reply to this comment

    So we lost Beast, but pissing Brian van Zyl off (and squeezing his wallet) is priceless in its own way.

  • 63.John Galt: Reply to this comment

    @Tegejo(Tegejo) :
    Okay. You are going to have to explain why you laughed. It wasnt a joke and I certainly never misspoke.

    Unless of course you’re like that homeless dude on the corner of Umgeni and Goble(cant think of the terrorists name that has replaced Goble) roads who is prone to fits of uncontrolled laughter for no apparent reason.

    Must be the drugs.

  • 64.Tacitus: Reply to this comment

    @grant10(grant10) :

    You make a good point. But after considering it for a moment I came to the conclusion that this is a perfect demonstration of the fact that all our best players are still plying their trade locally.

    In a way, it is proof that our policy of only picking local players for the Bok team is working.

  • 65.Tegejo: Reply to this comment

    @John Galt(John Galt) : Not the drugs, mate. I cant help laughing at dellusional people. Its like laughing at the little ret@rd boy shoving the ice cream against his forehead. You know its wrong, but you cant help yourself….

  • 66.Tacitus: Reply to this comment

    @John Galt(John Galt) :

    I think he was laughing at the “young” part.

  • 67.wooden spoon: Reply to this comment

    @Tegejo(Tegejo) : “young champion side” = Currie Cup CHAMPIONS 2010.

    Pretty simple, really.

    Lol, I loved your post at 59… your prediction that the Bulls and Stormers will be “the only competitive sides in S15″

    Let’s wait and see what the Sharks say about that.

  • 68.Tacitus: Reply to this comment

    Sigh.

    So much sudden optimism in Durban.

    Hate to be there when reality sets in.

  • 69.Frankly speaking: Reply to this comment

    @wooden spoon(wooden spoon) : In my opinion, only one team can claim it’s a champion side, and that’s the Bulls of 2007 – 2010. And before them, the Crusaders of 2000 – 2005.

  • 70.Tegejo: Reply to this comment

    @wooden spoon(wooden spoon) : Then I could argue that the Kings are also a young championship side, as they won the 1st division. If winning a dewatered CC makes you happy, by all means. Some of us bigger unions set higher targets for ourselves….

  • 71.John Galt: Reply to this comment

    @Tacitus(Tacitus) :
    Still dont get it.

    15 Ludik – 24 yrs
    14 Ndungane 29
    13 Stef – 35
    12 Strauss 26
    11 Mvovo – 24
    10 Lambie 20
    9 Mcleod 26
    8 Kanko 25
    7 Alberts 26
    6 Daniel 25
    5 hargreaves 24
    4 Sykes 26
    3 JDup 25
    2 Bissie 26
    1 Beast 25

    Average age 25 and a half. Not exactly the oldest team I’ve ever seen lift the currie cup.

  • 72.Frankly speaking: Reply to this comment

    @John Galt(John Galt) : Jannie Dup’s 25 hey?…Get your facts straight

  • 73.John Galt: Reply to this comment

    @Tacitus(Tacitus) :
    Never been much of an optimist myself.

    I dont know what will happen in this years S15 with its new layout. Quite frankly, anyone who says they do, is a moron.

    What i can say is that Sharks were playing a great brand of rugby toward the end of last season, a brand that mixed the SA and NZ style to perfection. It wasnt just a ‘throw the ball around and hope it works’ style. If they carry on in that method this year, I really think they will be difficult to beat.

    Lets just hope it continues. And if you think Im not going to back the Sharks 100% even if they come short this year, you’re horribly mistaken.

  • 74.Great White Shark: Reply to this comment

    Dewatered?

  • 75.sharks_lover: Reply to this comment

    @John Galt(John Galt) : amazing how they can all be optimistic about their teams . but dont you sharks supporters dare ??????

    i mean grant has been an ******* about smitty , but atleast grant is fair and does not sit here and run down other teams

    tacci is a clown of note , the poor oke prolly crapping his diaper

    others trying to tell us like tegejo how we wont get anywhere blah blah , what an arogant twatwaffel , i mean a short while ago the same useless sharks slaughtered his famous amazing wp

    buncha clowns i tell ya

  • 76.John Galt: Reply to this comment

    @Frankly speaking(Frankly speaking) :
    According to the Sharks website he was born 14/10/1985. So at the time of the currie cup he was?
    You’ll have to help me out here, my maths is a little laboured.

  • 77.sharks_lover: Reply to this comment

    @John Galt(John Galt) : john i just happen to know a few of the bulls players and one or 2 in their management and him always tacci always knocking the sharks as useless and running down someone like john smit ??

    they will be the first to tell him to go back to danville and stop showing his idiotic stupid moron side

    see bulls are a great team and have got good people playing for them

    unlike some of their supporters

  • 78.sharks_lover: Reply to this comment

    as for the super 15 , there are no favourites , new year new season new competition

    time will tell

    but id rather be a team comming off a winning note then one or 2 that had their asses handed to them on a platter

  • 79.Great White Shark: Reply to this comment

    Some Province supporters are still feeling the pain…like Burger after that one tackle..

  • 80.rangerman: Reply to this comment

    yes, the sharks are gonna getcha.

    the bulls will once again be our stiffest competition locally as they have been for the last 4 years.

    the chok….uhm…stormers will probably be up there again but the sharks seem to have their number (since 2004 really).

    so my prediction is:

    sharks to top the local pool, bulls in second and stormers pushed really close by the lions for third.

    lucky there are so many sharks fans in CT so the pubs and restaraunts will still do a brisk trade.

  • 81.rangerman: Reply to this comment

    @Great White Shark(Predawn) : schalk is made of stern stuff foreshore.

    it was interesting to watch some of the keo youth league and clifton revolutionary brigade start shouting his praises after denigrating him last year for going to the beach.

    hypocrites.

    but there is a new man van staal in town and his name is willem alberts.

  • 82.Great White Shark: Reply to this comment

    Alberts is the real deal. Not only is he a tough rugger player but he also has an even temperament. Professional, intelligent and results orientated.

    Burger is like the cartoon version of Alberts.

  • 83.Mighty Horua: Reply to this comment

    Alberts not in the same league as THE BURGER

    After Alberts can get a pass away or feed his backline – only then Alberts mite be mentioned in the same paragraph than Schalla

    Alberts could just be another 1 season wonder! After almost 9 years at the pinnacle of rugby Schalla is the real deal

  • 84.stormersboy: Reply to this comment

    Sehwag out. Hopefully a sign of things to come!

  • 85.Frankly speaking: Reply to this comment

    Jannie du Plessis was born on 16 November 1982

    Ask Wiki if you want to verify

    And don’t believe all the bulls… the Sharks website feeds you.

    I even saw Lionel Mapoe’s profile with a pic of him in a Sharks jersey on there last year

  • 86.sharks_lover: Reply to this comment

    @Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua) : blah blah blah,

  • 87.sharks_lover: Reply to this comment

    @stormersboy(stormersboy) : good morning old chap ^5

  • 88.sharks_lover: Reply to this comment

    @rangerman(rangerman) : good day ranger bro ltnc , HNY by the way hope you had a good one

    alberts and deysel will be breaking a few more oposition ribs this year for sure

  • 89.sharks_lover: Reply to this comment

    Name: Willem Alberts
    Date of Birth: 11/05/1984
    Place of Birth: Pretoria
    Position: Eighthman
    Height: 1.92 m
    Weight: 119 kg
    High School: Monument Hoer Skool
    Club: Acer Durban Collegians
    Sharks Debut: 2010 vs Chiefs (Vodacom Super 14)

    ——————————————————————————–

    Name: Jacques Botes
    Date of Birth: 28/11/1980
    Place of Birth: Nelspruit
    Position: Flank
    Height: 1.82m
    Weight: 99kg
    High School: Potch Gymnasium
    Club: Envirosan Old Boys
    Sharks Debut: 2005 vs Stormers (Vodacom Super 14)

    ——————————————————————————–

    Name: Anton Bresler
    Date of Birth: 16/02/1988
    Place of Birth: Windhoek Namibia
    Position: Lock
    Height: 1.98 m
    Weight: 112 kg
    High School: DHS
    Club: Jonsson College Rovers
    Sharks Debut: 2010 vs Griquas (Absa Currie Cup)

    ——————————————————————————–

    Name: Craig Burden
    Date of Birth: 13/05/1985
    Place of Birth: Durban
    Position: Hooker
    Height: 1.84 m
    Weight: 100 kg
    High School: Maritzburg College
    Club: Jonsson College Rovers
    Sharks Debut: 2006 vs Cheetahs (Vodacom Super 14)

    ——————————————————————————–

    Name: Dale Chadwick
    Date of Birth: 20/06/1989
    Place of Birth: Durban
    Position: Prop
    Height: 1.83 m
    Weight: 107 kg
    High School: Westville Boys High School
    Club: Jonsson College Rovers
    Sharks Debut: 2009 vs Leopards (Absa Currie Cup)

    ——————————————————————————–

    Name: Patric Cilliers
    Date of Birth: 03/03/1987
    Place of Birth: Pietermaritzburg
    Position: Prop
    Height: 1.86 m
    Weight: 113 kg
    High School: Michaelhouse
    Club: Jonsson College Rovers
    Sharks Debut: 2007 vs Lions (Vodacom Super 14)

    ——————————————————————————–

    Name: Kyle Cooper
    Date of Birth: 10/02/1989
    Place of Birth: Johannesburg
    Position: Hooker
    Height: 1.78 m
    Weight: 106 kg
    High School: Glenwood Boys High School
    Club: Jonsson College Rovers
    Sharks Debut: 2010 vs Griquas (Absa Currie Cup)

    ——————————————————————————–

    Name: Keegan Daniel
    Date of Birth: 05/03/1985
    Place of Birth: Humansdorp
    Position: Flank (loose forward)
    Height: 1.88 m
    Weight: 94 kg
    High School: Dale College
    Club: Jonsson College Rovers
    Sharks Debut: 2006 vs Reds (Vodacom Super 14)

    ——————————————————————————–

    Name: Jean Deysel
    Date of Birth: 05/03/1985
    Place of Birth: Free State
    Position: Eighthman/Flank
    Height: 1.91 m
    Weight: 112 kg
    High School: Hentie Cilliers
    Club: Goss & Balfe Crusaders
    Sharks Debut: 2007 vs WP (Absa Currie Cup)

    ——————————————————————————–

    Name: Justin Downey
    Date of Birth: 11/11/1986
    Place of Birth: Johannesburg
    Position: Flank
    Height: 1.92 m
    Weight: 104 kg
    High School: Northwood Boys
    Club: Jonsson College Rovers
    Sharks Debut: 2009 vs WP (Absa Currie Cup)

    ——————————————————————————–

    Name : Monty Dumond
    Date of Birth : 20/08/1982
    Place of birth: Klerksdorp
    Position : Flyhalf
    Height : 1.81m
    Weight : 95 kg
    High School : Orkney High School
    Club: Airtron Harlequins
    Sharks Debut: 2007 vs Lions (Absa Currie Cup)

    ——————————————————————————–

    Name: Bismarck du Plessis
    Date of Birth: 22/05/1984
    Place of Birth: Bethlehem
    Position: Hooker
    Height: 1.89 m
    Weight: 111 kg
    High School: Grey College (Bloem)
    Club: Chemspec Jaguars
    Sharks Debut: 2005 vs Waratahs (Vodacom Super 14)

    ——————————————————————————–

    Name: Jannie du Plessis
    Date of Birth: 14/10/1985
    Place of Birth: Bethlehem
    Position: Prop
    Height: 1.88 m
    Weight: 118 kg
    High School: Grey College (Bloem)
    Club: Airtron Harlequins
    Sharks Debut: 2008 vs Western Force (Vodacom Super 14)

    ——————————————————————————–

    Name: Alistair Hargreaves
    Date of Birth: 29/04/1986
    Place of Birth: Durban
    Position: Lock
    Height: 2.01 m
    Weight: 114 kg
    High School: DHS
    Club: Envirosan Old Boys
    Sharks Debut: 2006 vs Griquas (Absa Currie Cup)

    ——————————————————————————–

    Name : Wiehahn Herbst
    Date of Birth: 05/07/1988
    Place of Birth: Klerksdorp
    Position: Prop
    Height: 1.80 m
    Weight: 114 kg
    High School: Klerksdorp High School
    Club: Envirosan Old Boys
    Sharks Debut: 2009 vs Boland (Absa Currie Cup)

    ——————————————————————————–

    Name: Adrian Jacobs
    Date of Birth: 14/08/1980
    Place of Birth: Kraaifontein
    Position: Centre
    Height: 1.79m
    Weight: 95kg
    High School: Scottsville Senior
    Club: Thanda / ZRA Zululand Rhinos
    Sharks Debut: 2004 vs Brumbies (Vodacom Super 14)

    ——————————————————————————–

    Name: Ryan Kankowski
    Date of Birth: 14/10/1985
    Place of Birth: Port Elizabeth
    Position: Eighthman
    Height: 1.93 m
    Weight: 107 kg
    High School: St Andrews
    Club: Jonsson College Rovers
    Sharks Debut: 2006 vs Lions (Absa Currie Cup)

    ——————————————————————————–

    Name: Rory Kockott
    Date of Birth: 25/06/1986
    Place of Birth: East London
    Position: Scrumhalf
    Height: 1.80 m
    Weight: 89 kg
    High School: Selborne College
    Club: Goss & Balfe Crusaders
    Sharks Debut: 2007 vs Bulls (Vodacom Super 14)

    ——————————————————————————–

    Name : Patrick Lambie
    Date of Birth: 17/10/1990
    Place of Birth: Durban
    Position: Fullback / Flyhalf / Centre
    Height: 1.77 m
    Weight: 92 kg
    High School: Michaelhouse
    Club: Jonsson College Rovers
    Sharks Debut: 2009 vs Griquas (Absa Currie Cup)

    ——————————————————————————–

    Name: Piet Lindeque
    Date of Birth: 31/01/1991
    Place of Birth: Freestate, Winburg
    Position: Centre
    Height: 1.80 m
    Weight: 94 kg
    High School: Grey College Bloemfontein
    Club: Goss & Balfe Crusaders
    Sharks Debut: TBC*

    ——————————————————————————–

    Name: Louis Ludik
    Date of Birth: 08/10/86
    Place of Birth : Kempton Park
    Position: Fullback
    Height: 1.83m
    Weight: 92kg
    High School: EG Jansen Hoer Skool
    Club: Duikers
    Sharks Debut: 2010 vs Griquas (Absa Currie Cup)

    ——————————————————————————–

    Name: Luviso Lusaseni
    Date of Birth: 16/12/1988
    Place of Birth: East London
    Position: Eighthman / Flank / Lock
    Height:1.92 m
    Weight: 105 kg
    High School: Selborne College
    Club: Jonsson College Rovers
    Sharks Debut: TBC*

    ——————————————————————————–

    Name: Charl McLeod
    Date of Birth: 05/08/1983
    Place of Birth: Johannesburg
    Position: Scrumhalf
    Height: 1.80 m
    Weight: 88 kg
    High School: Wonderboom High School
    Club: Airtron Harlequins
    Sharks Debut: 2008 vs Boland (Absa Currie)

    ——————————————————————————–

    Name: Steve Meyer
    Date of Birth: 21/03/1984
    Place of Birth: Johannesburg
    Position: Flyhalf
    Height: 1.84m
    Weight: 92kg
    High School: Kearsney College
    Club: Jonsson College Rovers
    Sharks Debut: 2006 vs Leopards (Absa Currie Cup)

    ——————————————————————————–

    Name: Gerhard Mostert
    Date of Birth: 04/10/84
    Place of Birth: Rustenburg
    Position: Lock
    Height: 1.99 m
    Weight: 122 kg
    High School: High School Rustenburg
    Club: Acer Durban Collegians
    Sharks Debut: 2010 vs Chiefs (Vodacom Super 14)

    ——————————————————————————–

    Name: Tendai Mtawarira
    Date of Birth: 01/08/1985
    Place of Birth: Harare
    Position: Prop
    Height: 1.88 m
    Weight: 116 kg
    High School: Peterhouse
    Club: Jonsson College Rovers
    Sharks Debut: 2007 v Waratahs (Vodacom Super 14)

    ——————————————————————————–

    Name: Lwazi Mvovo
    Date of Birth: 03/06/1986
    Place of Birth: Umtata
    Position: Wing
    Height: 1.85 m
    Weight: 91 kg
    High School: Maria Louw High
    Club: Envirosan Old Boys
    Sharks Debut: 2008 vs Boland (Absa Currie Cup)

    ——————————————————————————–

    Name: Skholiwe Ndlovu
    Date of Birth: 13/02/1985
    Place of Birth: Durban
    Position: Flank
    Height: 1.82 m
    Weight: 98 kg
    High School: Northwood Boys
    Club: Goss & Balfe Crusaders
    Sharks Debut: 2007 vs Boland (Absa Currie Cup)

    ——————————————————————————–

    Name: Odwa Ndungane
    Date of Birth: 20/02/1981
    Place of Birth: Umtata
    Position: Wing
    Height: 1.84 m
    Weight: 96 kg
    High School: Hudson Park High
    Club: Envirosan Old Boys
    Sharks Debut: 2005 vs Stormers (Vodacom Super 14)

    ——————————————————————————–

    Name: Sabelo Nhlapo
    Date of Birth: 17/12/1988
    Place of Birth: Johannesburg
    Position: Loosehead prop
    Height: 1.91m
    Weight: 118kg
    High School: Highlands North Boys High School
    Club: Jonsson College Rovers
    Sharks Debut: TBC*

    ——————————————————————————–

    Name: Ruan Pienaar
    Date of Birth: 10/03/1984
    Place of Birth: Bloemfontein
    Position:Scrumhalf
    Height: 1.87 m
    Weight: 93 kg
    High School: Grey College (Bloem)
    Club: Chemspec Jaguars
    Sharks Debut: 2005 v Stormers (Vodacom Super 12)

    ——————————————————————————–

    Name: JP Pietersen
    Date of Birth: 12/07/86
    Place of Birth: Cape Town
    Position: Fullback/Wing
    Height: 1.90 m
    Weight: 102 kg
    High School: HS Generaal Hertzog
    Club: Chemspec Jaguars
    Sharks Debut: 2005 vs Boland (Absa Currie Cup)

    ——————————————————————————–

    Name: Andre Pretorius
    Date of Birth: 29/12/1978
    Place of Birth: Johannesburg
    Position: Flyhalf
    Height: 1.76 m
    Weight: 90 kg
    High School: Dinamika High School
    Club: Goss & Balfe Crusaders
    Sharks Debut: 2010 vs Blue Bulls (Absa Currie Cup)

    ——————————————————————————–

    Name: Julian Redlinghuys
    Date of Birth: 11/09/1989
    Place of Birth: Pretoria
    Position: Tighthead Prop
    Height: 1.76 m
    Weight: 110 kg
    High School: Monument High School
    Club: Goss & Balfe Crusaders
    Sharks Debut: 2009 vs Blue Bulls (Absa Currie Cup)

    ——————————————————————————–

    Name : Michael Rhodes
    Date of Birth: 19/12/1987
    Place of Birth: Durban
    Position: Flank
    Height: 1,97 m
    Weight: 114 kg
    High School: Michaelhouse
    Club: Jonsson College Rovers
    Sharks Debut: 2009 vs Blue Bulls (Absa Currie Cup)

    ——————————————————————————–

    Name: Mark Richards
    Date of Birth: 09/09/1989
    Place of Birth: Springs
    Position: Wing / fullback
    Height: 1.75 m
    Weight: 82 kg
    High School: Michaelhouse
    Club: Jonsson College Rovers
    Sharks Debut: TBC*

    ——————————————————————————–

    Name: Ross Skeate
    Date of Birth: 02/04/1982
    Place of Birth: Johannesburg
    Position: Lock
    Height: 2.01 m
    Weight: 114 kg
    High School: SACS High School
    Club: Harlequins
    Sharks Debut: 2010 vs Blue Bulls (Absa Currie Cup)

    ——————————————————————————–

    Name: Andries Strauss
    Date of Birth: 05/03/1984
    Place of Birth: Pretoria
    Position: Centre
    Height: 1.86 m
    Weight: 97 kg
    High School: Grey College- Bloem
    Club: Acer Durban Collegians
    Sharks Debut: 2006 vs Chiefs (Vodacom Super 14)

    ——————————————————————————–

    Name: Riaan Swanepoel
    Date of Birth: 14/01/1986
    Place of Birth: Craddock
    Position: Centre
    Height: 1.83 m
    Weight: 103 kg
    High School: Northern Cape High School
    Club: Jonsson College Rovers
    Sharks Debut: 2008 vs Boland (Absa Currie Cup)

    ——————————————————————————–

    Name: Steven Sykes
    Date of Birth: 05/08/1984
    Place of Birth:Middelburgh
    Position:Lock /flank
    Height:1.98m
    Weight:118 kg
    High School: Marlow Agricultural High School
    Club: Acer Durban Collegians
    Sharks Debut: 2005 vs EP (Absa Currie Cup)

    ——————————————————————————–

    Name: Stefan Terblanche
    Date of Birth: 02/07/1975
    Place of Birth:Mossel Bay
    Position:Fullback, wing
    Height:1.87 m
    Weight: 95 kg
    High School: Swellendam High School
    Club: Jonsson College Rovers
    Sharks Debut: 1998 vs Blues (Vodacom Super 14)

    ——————————————————————————–

    Name: Eugene van Staden
    Date of Birth: 16/12/1980
    Place of Birth: Crodock
    Position: Tighthead / Loosehead
    Height:1.82 m
    Weight: 118 kg
    High School: Bredasdrop High School
    Club: Duikers
    Sharks Debut: 2010 vs Griquas (Absa Currie Cup)

  • 90.Frankly speaking: Reply to this comment

    @Frankly speaking(Frankly speaking) :

    @@John Galt(John Galt) :

  • 91.Transformation: Reply to this comment

    alberts is the man van staal as jean deysel is an injury free juggernaut…alberts will have to finish a couple of seasons without breaking down like an umlazi E20.

  • 92.sharks_lover: Reply to this comment

    @Frankly speaking(Frankly speaking) : jannie was born 1985

    Name: Jannie du Plessis
    Date of Birth: 14/10/1985
    Place of Birth: Bethlehem
    Position: Prop
    Height: 1.88 m
    Weight: 118 kg
    High School: Grey College (Bloem)
    Club: Airtron Harlequins
    Sharks Debut: 2008 vs Western Force (Vodacom Super 14)

    wikipedia my friend is one of the worst placers to get stats

  • 93.bananaboy: Reply to this comment

    Happy New Year to you all and may the Sharks win the S15, the Bokke the WC and the Proteas win this series as well as CWC.

    To my Sharks bruddas don’t worry about the other supporters, the knowledgable ones know that they had some seasons in the doldrums and are sober enough to realise it can bit again. Life is strange and who knows what it will dish up as long as we remain true to supporting the Sharks (and Man Utd – just for you Ranger :-) ) nothing else matters.

  • 94.rangerman: Reply to this comment

    @Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua) : nine years?

    wtf?

    he played in the 2003 wc with barely a game at superrugby level?

    no man, thats 8 years.

    he is a king, no doubt.

    but alberts broke him, plain and simple.

    @sharks_lover(sharks_lover) : howdy man, ja happy new years.

    alberts and deysel are scary as a combo. with keegan and botes in the background most sides will be nervous.

  • 95.bananaboy: Reply to this comment

    @sharks_lover(sharks_lover) : Gday SL, hoep you had a good NY in that “wonderful” city. That info has to be wrong as Jannie is older than Bizzie

  • 96.bananaboy: Reply to this comment

    @bananaboy(bananaboy) : geez my spelling is shite today. That should be “bite” instead of “bit” in the first post and “hope” instead of “hoep”. Guess I’m just excited about what the Sharks are going to do this year :-)

  • 97.sharks_lover: Reply to this comment

    @bananaboy(bananaboy) : hiyas piesangs HNY bro

    look agreed but a blue blind oke like tacci i love telling off,

  • 98.rangerman: Reply to this comment

    @Transformation(Transformation) : haha, happy new years transie.

    alberts is hard buddy.

    ask schalk. he will tell you himself.

    119kg’s of excuse me mofo.

    and you know it :lol:

    @bananaboy(bananaboy) : haha! screw manu! POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!!!!!

    you’ll never walk alone (even if you are crawling) :lol:

  • 99.rangerman: Reply to this comment

    is biz the older boetie or is it jannie?

    who cares, they are both cc champs.

    and they are sharkies.

  • 100.rangerman: Reply to this comment

    willem alberts scored three test tries in his first three tests.

    is this a record for a flanker?

  • 101.sharks_lover: Reply to this comment

    @rangerman(rangerman) : lol ranger

    jannie is a little older , but not more then a year

  • 102.rangerman: Reply to this comment

    i am actually not sure at all how this new superrugby format will play out.

    but i know the sharks will give me more good times than bad, as usual.

    so i am looking forward to kick off!

  • 103.rangerman: Reply to this comment

    @sharks_lover(sharks_lover) : ok, thanks.

    he won a cc (or was it two?) with FS also.

    and one with the sharks in 2008.

    he has more cc wins than the entire stormers squad put together (ok, maybe willem de waal matches him :lol: )

  • 104.NZINCHINA: Reply to this comment

    @rangerman(rangerman) :

    Aren’t the Sharks zero from 15 attempts in professional super rugby, where are the good times there or am I missing something?

  • 105.Mighty_Horua: Reply to this comment

    sharks_lover .. a bit dof aren’t you? but i guess its all the durban poison you ppl in KZN take …. Jannie is a medical doctor right? For about 2 – 3 years? Well it takes 7 + years to become a medical doctor. So how can he be 25?

  • 106.bananaboy: Reply to this comment

    @rangerman(rangerman) : I bet you wish you had a Fergie now hey. :-)

    There’s only one ……..,

    Just imagine playing like **** and still leading the league having lost no games. ;-)

  • 107.rangerman: Reply to this comment

    @NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA) : all the semis and finals they played means they won a lot of games my china.

    and that gave me joy.

    its like you kiwis for example. you win a lot of games between wc’s but then choke like the lead singer of inxs every four years but you always tell us how happy you are with the all blacks :lol:

    now apply your logic to your own situation and you will find inner peace sonny.

  • 108.bananaboy: Reply to this comment

    @NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA) : @104 But hey at least we play good rugby :-)

  • 109.rangerman: Reply to this comment

    @bananaboy(bananaboy) : i blame kenny dalglish actually.

    when he turned merc pool were never the same again.

    fergie cant coach forever though buddy :lol:

  • 110.bananaboy: Reply to this comment

    @bananaboy(bananaboy) : and we have manners.

  • 111.NZINCHINA: Reply to this comment

    @rangerman(rangerman) :

    All the finals they have played, that would be how many? Don’t count O7 as we both know that one didnt really count.

  • 112.bananaboy: Reply to this comment

    @rangerman(rangerman) : Yeah Ranger but look at the players he turned out as coaches. Hughes,Bruce,Ince etc so somewhere there will be a replacement for him.

  • 113.rangerman: Reply to this comment

    @NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA) : haha, didnt count like 1987?

    :lol:

    you are not really learning are you?

    @bananaboy(bananaboy) : ag, like bill shankly, there is only one fergie buddy.

    you sound nervous? :lol:

  • 114.Transformation: Reply to this comment

    @rangerman(rangerman) : happy new year to u too…

    yeah he is a huge lump, but like deysel i suspect he is a mr glass! like i said alberts needs to keep it up for 2 seasons straight, then he maybe mentioned alongside schalk.

  • 115.rangerman: Reply to this comment

    @Transformation(Transformation) : true, i always punt consistency over a few seasons but even at the lions he was a wrecking ball.

    but ja, like lambie, lets see some consistently good seasons before we go too crazy.

  • 116.bananaboy: Reply to this comment

    @rangerman(rangerman) : Lets see what happens this weekend in the FA cup. Both my parents support Pool so there is a bit extra riding from me on this game.

  • 117.Transformation: Reply to this comment

    @bananaboy(bananaboy) : 116 in as much as i hate Manure, Pool will get their arses handed to them on the weekend. just last night they lost 3 – 1 to blackburn who don’t even have a manager!

  • 118.bananaboy: Reply to this comment

    @Transformation(Transformation) : Transie you only hate them because they are successful. ;-) . – like the Sharks
    Trust you are healthy, had a good break and looking forward to a gr8 rugby year.

  • 119.Transformation: Reply to this comment

    @bananaboy(bananaboy) : nope, bunch of Glory Hunters! Hated them before they won much.

    Alex ‘i don’t do interviews with BBC’ Ferguson is the most pompous poehol EVER! As for the Sharks, well i don’t know what ‘success’ you’re referring to :roll: the Sharks are mediocre at best, they’ve never dominated ANY competition. Success = Crusaders ie 7-time Super Rugby champs not the hypocrites from sewage spewing Debben :D

  • 120.rangerman: Reply to this comment

    @Transformation(Transformation) : haha, like the mighty elephants have done much?

    the sharks have been the most successful cc team over the last 20 years surely?

    6 wins in 22 years, has anyone else won that many in that period?

    and they have been losing finalists on 2 or 3 occasions?

    but you are being emotional and i have already mad a mistake trying to bring logic into the discussion.

    just as long as you dont get hysterical m’kay? :lol:

  • 121.rangerman: Reply to this comment

    @Transformation(Transformation) : as for glory hunters, what else is there in sport?

    mediocrity specialists?

    well as a mighty elephant supporter i understand your stance :lol:

    they are the true southern kings of mediocrity lmao!

  • 122.rangerman: Reply to this comment

    where did that snippy little kiwi go?

    is it already internet closing time in china?

  • 123.Tegejo: Reply to this comment

    @rangerman(rangerman) : They also have only those 6 victories EVER. And yes, btw, the Bulls also have 6 from the last 20 years. They have a lot more than those 6 though, coupled with a three superrugby title, I’d say that THEY were the benchmark team of the last 20years, wouldn’t you say?

  • 124.rangerman: Reply to this comment

    @Tegejo(Tegejo) : thats why i mentioned the last 20 years.

    i did not say of the last 100 years tegejo?

    i was talking about A COMPETITION with transie as he said the sharks had never dominated any compo.

    but yes, we sharkies respect what the bulls have achieved even if it was off the back of a cheating cowardly action by a players and a gutless display by a drunken kiwi yobbo ref who is now an aussie but still a tunc.

    there you go, happy?

  • 125.bananaboy: Reply to this comment

    @Tegejo(Tegejo) : In between those 6 CC titles and the 3 superrugby titles didn’t they also have a rotten run for a few years in super rugby.

  • 126.Tegejo: Reply to this comment

    @rangerman(rangerman) : The Sharks and Lions dominated the CC from 1990 – 1996. That period saw their bigger wallets thrash everything in their path.

    The Sharks will always be competetive, but dominating a full strengh domestic comp,I doubt it. Unless they buy the entire Grey College, and force them to play in black

  • 127.Tegejo: Reply to this comment

    @bananaboy(bananaboy) : They went through a bad patch, yes. History only remember winners though…and that they have been. Unlike every other SA team. (And I’m not talking abouth Transvaal fluke)

  • 128.rangerman: Reply to this comment

    @Tegejo(Tegejo) : ah, the old “buying players” chestnut.

    did bjorn basson go to school in pretoria? young hougie or old hougie? morne steyn? guthro? bakkies?

    dont be silly man please.

    the sharks won 4 cc’s in the 90′s (between 90 and 96, take a guess who dominated those years then?) and were in two finals after 1996.

    they have won 2 in the last three.

    now stop being emotional please. the bulls are amazing! happy? :lol:

  • 129.Tegejo: Reply to this comment

    @rangerman(rangerman) : Did you not read my post? I agreed that they dominated those years. But dude, to be honest. I was still in primary school. Its a helluva long time ago. The Sharks/Cheetah-A team is having a good run at the moment. But even with all their Grey players, they are not near the benchmark team. Only people from Durbs will tell you that. If you go to any rugby-knowing person in Australi, New Zealand or England, they will tell you who the benchmark is. Not only in South Africa, mate. Get a dose of reality. Everything is not blac, white and dynamite!

  • 130.rangerman: Reply to this comment

    @Tegejo(Tegejo) : yes it is.

  • 131.Transformation: Reply to this comment

    @rangerman(rangerman) : 120 do you see me going around claiming the Elephants/Kings are a ‘success’? Hehehe :D only in Debben…

  • 132.Tegejo: Reply to this comment

    @rangerman(rangerman) : I rest my case. NEXT

  • 133.rangerman: Reply to this comment

    @Transformation(Transformation) : well you cant can you?

    or you would be committed.

    and not in a good way.

    anyways, i am out. battle tomorrow?

    cheers man.

  • 134.Transformation: Reply to this comment

    @rangerman(rangerman) : how have you ‘dominated’ a comp when other people have achieved the same thing you’re bragging with before YOU? Let us see the Bulls pull a three-peat then we can talk about domination. The Sharks haven’t dominated sh*t! :D

  • 135.TASSIES: Reply to this comment

    @Transformation(Transformation) : transie get over yourself. WP are the true champions. Even Ranger knows this fact.

  • 136.Tegejo: Reply to this comment

    @TASSIES(TASSIES) : Put away you Tassies…I know its hot in Cape town, mate! But surely a nice cold Fanta would do?

  • 137.Tegejo: Reply to this comment

    Lopsie gets his man. The wall has come tumling down….. Too little too late, I’m afraid…

  • 138.Transformation: Reply to this comment

    @TASSIES(TASSIES) : yoh uvelaphi ngoku wena? :shock: hayi mani sukuphupha apha!

  • 139.Transformation: Reply to this comment

    Lions not giving up on Beast pursuit

    2011-01-06 13:15:03

    Golden Lions President Kevin de Klerk
    believes that the tug-o’-war between the
    Lions and the Sharks over the services of
    Springbok prop Tendai Mtawarira is not
    over yet, and the player’s decision will
    ultimately decide his fate.

    Sharks CEO Brian van Zyl has indicated that
    the Sharks are adamant that Mtawarira has
    a binding contract with them and the matter
    has now been put to rest. De Klerk,
    however, believes there could still be one
    final twist in this ongoing saga.

    De Klerk revealed his admiration for
    Mtawarira as a player and
    explained why he believed there was still a
    chance that the Beast could become a Lions
    player in 2011.

    “We’re not done with our negotiations [yet]
    and, ultimately, it is going to depend on the
    Beast where he wants to play his rugby,” De
    Klerk said

    “I don’t believe that he has a proper
    contract, but we don’t need – or want – to
    have to go to court to contest that.”

    De Klerk compared Mtawarira’s current
    contract with the Sharks to the dispute
    between the same two unions a year ago
    that saw loose forward Willem Alberts and
    fullback Louis Ludik trade Johannesburg for
    Durban.

    “It is a similar type of arrangement to the
    one we had with Willem Alberts and Louis
    Ludik where the contracts were not
    complete, so there was an opening for us to
    negotiate with him and we did on that
    basis,” he explained.

    “We believe that we have a wonderful
    opportunity for him [Mtawarira] up here at
    the Lions with the new team that we are
    developing.

    “We would love to have him on board, but
    we will respect his decision about where he
    would like to play,” he added.

    The Lions are in a rebuilding phase with a
    number of young players coming through
    the ranks, and the financial backing of IT
    multi-millionaire Robert Gumede is allowing
    the union to purse a few more well-
    established players to mentor young
    starlets like Elton Jantjies and Jaco Taute to
    name just two.

    However, should the ambitious move to lure
    the Springbok loosehead prop to
    Johannesburg fail, De Klerk is confident that
    coach John Mitchell has enough talent at his
    disposal to work with.

    “We are pretty well layered and have some
    up-and-coming youngsters that are making
    big statements at the moment, so we are
    pleased about the road ahead,”

    De Klerk expects finality on this saga to be
    obtained “over the next few days”.

  • 140.John Galt: Reply to this comment

    @Transformation(Transformation) :

    Yeah the more I think about this the more I am becoming totally indfferent as to whether he goes or not.

    If he wants to chase the cash, good on him, its a professionaly game with an age limit.
    I dont think think it will be a great move for him rugby wise though and I think you’ll see him lose even more ground in his quest to be no 1 loosehead ahead of Guthro.

    As for the Sharks, well they are well covered in the front row so no worries there. Van Staden is a very good player.

    Lions becoming the Man City of SA rugby. The union is flat broke but luckily there is a large benefactor to buy players.

  • 141.stew: Reply to this comment

    What is happening to daily stories on this website ?

Keo.co.za has always promoted uncensored views, but has never tolerated racist or crass outbursts. Come on guys and girls. If you can't moderate yourselves or each other then I am going to be forced to regulate the posts and enforce a registration process for comments. The choice is yours.

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