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		<title>By: garth(garth)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/01/26/therell-be-a-three-month-ban/#comment-1804122</link>
		<dc:creator>garth(garth)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If I ran this site I would take this article off the main page as it only proves how dumb some of the folk are that these journos interview.  And you should not be advertising that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I ran this site I would take this article off the main page as it only proves how dumb some of the folk are that these journos interview.  And you should not be advertising that.</p>
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		<title>By: Heavens Game(Heavens Game)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/01/26/therell-be-a-three-month-ban/#comment-1792986</link>
		<dc:creator>Heavens Game(Heavens Game)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 19:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Prof Tim Noakes is starting to be a bit of a soundbite engineer...

He is really losing a bit of credibility in this silly race for publicity...

He is not the be all and end all of Sports Medicine, never mind in rugby...

With comments like these in this article his loss of credibility is real, not just imagined by Tackler.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prof Tim Noakes is starting to be a bit of a soundbite engineer&#8230;</p>
<p>He is really losing a bit of credibility in this silly race for publicity&#8230;</p>
<p>He is not the be all and end all of Sports Medicine, never mind in rugby&#8230;</p>
<p>With comments like these in this article his loss of credibility is real, not just imagined by Tackler.</p>
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		<title>By: stormersboy(stormersboy)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/01/26/therell-be-a-three-month-ban/#comment-1792563</link>
		<dc:creator>stormersboy(stormersboy)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 08:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Springboks Chiliboy Ralepelle and Bjorn Basson can return to playing rugby immediately after a Judicial Committee found that there was “no fault” on the part of the players for positive tests for a banned stimulant.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Springboks Chiliboy Ralepelle and Bjorn Basson can return to playing rugby immediately after a Judicial Committee found that there was “no fault” on the part of the players for positive tests for a banned stimulant.</p>
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		<title>By: stormersboy(stormersboy)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/01/26/therell-be-a-three-month-ban/#comment-1792510</link>
		<dc:creator>stormersboy(stormersboy)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 07:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tim is right. I read another interresting article about how some drugs end up on the banned list. In many cases no actual testing is done about the effects of the drug on performance, it&#039;s done mostly on heresay. Which means that in this instance it may not even have been nescessary to have put this on the banned list.

In most instances the most effective performance enhancing substances are those that mimic the existing hormone structures in the body and simply boost these. Good examples of these are EPO and Testosterone.

The test for EPO measures the hematocrit levels in the body, and the limit is 50. Normal people test anywhere around 19/20. So what cyclists do is boost the hematocrit levels through EPO, until they get close to the 50 mark and then maintain as close to that as possible. Bjarne Riise had levels close to 60 when he was doping, which is very dangerous (too much red blood cells thicken your blood)

Testosterone is also naturally present in the body in differing levels depending on genetics, age etc. In 2003 the IOC set the legal limit at a marker of 5 for testosterone in athletes. The normal lecvel is 1-2. In exeptional cases a bit higher. 

In making allowances for the extreme, anti-doping agencies are tacitly allowing (some say encouraging) a certain amount of doping in athletes.

So basically the smart way to dope within the rules is to fly as close to the edge as possible without going over the limit.

In certain cases Rugby players have tested over the limit and have gotten away with the excuse that eating large amounts of red meat boosts the testosterone levels. But you&#039;d have to eat a shed load of it to have any significant effect Kobus Visage anyone?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim is right. I read another interresting article about how some drugs end up on the banned list. In many cases no actual testing is done about the effects of the drug on performance, it&#8217;s done mostly on heresay. Which means that in this instance it may not even have been nescessary to have put this on the banned list.</p>
<p>In most instances the most effective performance enhancing substances are those that mimic the existing hormone structures in the body and simply boost these. Good examples of these are EPO and Testosterone.</p>
<p>The test for EPO measures the hematocrit levels in the body, and the limit is 50. Normal people test anywhere around 19/20. So what cyclists do is boost the hematocrit levels through EPO, until they get close to the 50 mark and then maintain as close to that as possible. Bjarne Riise had levels close to 60 when he was doping, which is very dangerous (too much red blood cells thicken your blood)</p>
<p>Testosterone is also naturally present in the body in differing levels depending on genetics, age etc. In 2003 the IOC set the legal limit at a marker of 5 for testosterone in athletes. The normal lecvel is 1-2. In exeptional cases a bit higher. </p>
<p>In making allowances for the extreme, anti-doping agencies are tacitly allowing (some say encouraging) a certain amount of doping in athletes.</p>
<p>So basically the smart way to dope within the rules is to fly as close to the edge as possible without going over the limit.</p>
<p>In certain cases Rugby players have tested over the limit and have gotten away with the excuse that eating large amounts of red meat boosts the testosterone levels. But you&#8217;d have to eat a shed load of it to have any significant effect Kobus Visage anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: stormer in a teacup(stormer in a teacup)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/01/26/therell-be-a-three-month-ban/#comment-1792498</link>
		<dc:creator>stormer in a teacup(stormer in a teacup)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 07:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marijuana is a party drug. That doesn&#039;t mean it is going to improve an athletes performance. By the way I consumed a lot of jelly tots at parties as a kid. Never had the testing in those days they have now though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marijuana is a party drug. That doesn&#8217;t mean it is going to improve an athletes performance. By the way I consumed a lot of jelly tots at parties as a kid. Never had the testing in those days they have now though.</p>
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		<title>By: Slartibartfast(Slartibartfast)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/01/26/therell-be-a-three-month-ban/#comment-1792495</link>
		<dc:creator>Slartibartfast(Slartibartfast)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 06:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1792492&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Taahirah(Taahirah)-30&lt;/a&gt;: 

&lt;/b&gt; Don&#039;t worry, you can&#039;t buy jelly tots in NZ...!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1792492" rel="nofollow">Taahirah(Taahirah)-30</a>: </p>
<p> Don&#8217;t worry, you can&#8217;t buy jelly tots in NZ&#8230;!</p>
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		<title>By: Taahirah(Taahirah)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/01/26/therell-be-a-three-month-ban/#comment-1792492</link>
		<dc:creator>Taahirah(Taahirah)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 06:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1792470&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TheTackler(TheTackler)-26&lt;/a&gt;: Please dont EVER invite me to one of your parties...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1792470" rel="nofollow">TheTackler(TheTackler)-26</a>: Please dont EVER invite me to one of your parties&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: garth(garth)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/01/26/therell-be-a-three-month-ban/#comment-1792489</link>
		<dc:creator>garth(garth)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 06:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So they both get off.  Noakes really has made a fool of himself again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So they both get off.  Noakes really has made a fool of himself again.</p>
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		<title>By: Taahirah(Taahirah)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/01/26/therell-be-a-three-month-ban/#comment-1792485</link>
		<dc:creator>Taahirah(Taahirah)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 05:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1792423&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;goyougoodthing2(goyougoodthing2)-23&lt;/a&gt;: I know. I always feel bad about it when I do it. To his credit he responded really well and his wife is very friendly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1792423" rel="nofollow">goyougoodthing2(goyougoodthing2)-23</a>: I know. I always feel bad about it when I do it. To his credit he responded really well and his wife is very friendly.</p>
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		<title>By: Great White Shark(Predawn)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/01/26/therell-be-a-three-month-ban/#comment-1792475</link>
		<dc:creator>Great White Shark(Predawn)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 04:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Performance enhancing drugs in professional sport is nothing new.

Those that whine about it need to grow up. The Bulls are still going to knock the stuffing out of the Kaaiwaais....again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Performance enhancing drugs in professional sport is nothing new.</p>
<p>Those that whine about it need to grow up. The Bulls are still going to knock the stuffing out of the Kaaiwaais&#8230;.again.</p>
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		<title>By: TheTackler(TheTackler)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/01/26/therell-be-a-three-month-ban/#comment-1792470</link>
		<dc:creator>TheTackler(TheTackler)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 04:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1792468&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;stormer in a teacup(stormer in a teacup)-24&lt;/a&gt;: Jelly Tots aren&#039;t consumed as a party drug. This substance is.  That should tell you it&#039;s really quite mighty.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1792468" rel="nofollow">stormer in a teacup(stormer in a teacup)-24</a>: Jelly Tots aren&#8217;t consumed as a party drug. This substance is.  That should tell you it&#8217;s really quite mighty.</p>
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		<title>By: bryce_in_oz(bryce_in_oz)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/01/26/therell-be-a-three-month-ban/#comment-1792469</link>
		<dc:creator>bryce_in_oz(bryce_in_oz)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 04:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1792468&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;stormer in a teacup(stormer in a teacup)-24&lt;/a&gt;: 

Yet two of the nine Australian athletes that tested positive at the end of last year... rugby league players... received two year bans... with the other seven currently in the courts... &lt;/b&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1792468" rel="nofollow">stormer in a teacup(stormer in a teacup)-24</a>: </p>
<p>Yet two of the nine Australian athletes that tested positive at the end of last year&#8230; rugby league players&#8230; received two year bans&#8230; with the other seven currently in the courts&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: stormer in a teacup(stormer in a teacup)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/01/26/therell-be-a-three-month-ban/#comment-1792468</link>
		<dc:creator>stormer in a teacup(stormer in a teacup)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 03:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This stuff gives athletes about as much advantage as a bag of jelly tots.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This stuff gives athletes about as much advantage as a bag of jelly tots.</p>
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		<title>By: goyougoodthing2(goyougoodthing2)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/01/26/therell-be-a-three-month-ban/#comment-1792423</link>
		<dc:creator>goyougoodthing2(goyougoodthing2)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1791952&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Taahirah(Taahirah)-20&lt;/a&gt;: Just what they guy needed I am sure, some random poking their nose into his business and lunch.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1791952" rel="nofollow">Taahirah(Taahirah)-20</a>: Just what they guy needed I am sure, some random poking their nose into his business and lunch.</p>
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		<title>By: TheTackler(TheTackler)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/01/26/therell-be-a-three-month-ban/#comment-1792195</link>
		<dc:creator>TheTackler(TheTackler)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All drug cheats think they&#039;re too clever to get caught.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All drug cheats think they&#8217;re too clever to get caught.</p>
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		<title>By: dWeePer(dWeePer)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/01/26/therell-be-a-three-month-ban/#comment-1791958</link>
		<dc:creator>dWeePer(dWeePer)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 06:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you really want to cheat using methylhexanamine you must be very stupid to be caught. Cheats will not be caught as easily as Chilliboy and Bjorn Basson.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you really want to cheat using methylhexanamine you must be very stupid to be caught. Cheats will not be caught as easily as Chilliboy and Bjorn Basson.</p>
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		<title>By: Taahirah(Taahirah)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/01/26/therell-be-a-three-month-ban/#comment-1791952</link>
		<dc:creator>Taahirah(Taahirah)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 06:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ran into Basson at Mugg&amp;Bean in Brooklyn Mall yesterday afternoon. He was with his wife and kid, that didnt stop me from making him pose for a photo with me though. And ofcourse cracking some lame jokes bout whether he had the hot chocolate he was drinking tested. I asked bout the hearing but he didnt want to let anything slip, just that it went well and that he hopes to be back on the field of play soon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ran into Basson at Mugg&amp;Bean in Brooklyn Mall yesterday afternoon. He was with his wife and kid, that didnt stop me from making him pose for a photo with me though. And ofcourse cracking some lame jokes bout whether he had the hot chocolate he was drinking tested. I asked bout the hearing but he didnt want to let anything slip, just that it went well and that he hopes to be back on the field of play soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Johannes Expatinus(hanneslom)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/01/26/therell-be-a-three-month-ban/#comment-1791939</link>
		<dc:creator>Johannes Expatinus(hanneslom)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 23:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WHERE &#039;*&#039; = m o n k e y]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHERE &#8216;*&#8217; = m o n k e y</p>
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		<title>By: Johannes Expatinus(hanneslom)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/01/26/therell-be-a-three-month-ban/#comment-1791937</link>
		<dc:creator>Johannes Expatinus(hanneslom)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The google monkey @ # 12 must be the most predictable blogger on the www. 

And he dares think anyone would believe him...based on what real knowledge? 

Just a cyber poser.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The google <acronym title="Keep it clean!">******</acronym> @ # 12 must be the most predictable blogger on the www. </p>
<p>And he dares think anyone would believe him&#8230;based on what real knowledge? </p>
<p>Just a cyber poser.</p>
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		<title>By: RedLion is waiting ...(RL)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/01/26/therell-be-a-three-month-ban/#comment-1791927</link>
		<dc:creator>RedLion is waiting ...(RL)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[nasty! that Frog got poked in the eye by another Frog.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nasty! that Frog got poked in the eye by another Frog.</p>
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