Return of the king
7 Feb 2011
Fourie du Preez will be the Boks’ key player this year as they seek to defend the World Cup.
In his most revealing interview yet, Du Preez talks to SA Rugby magazine about why the Springboks struggled in 2010, his big-match temperament, who should replace him as Bok scrumhalf when he retires from international rugby, why he wants to play in Japan, and who he thinks should be the next Bok coach.
We also speak to Heyneke Meyer and Bryan Habana about what makes Du Preez the best scrumhalf in the world.
‘If he doesn’t play the Boks are in serious trouble and the Bulls wouldn’t be the side they have been in the past couple of years, says Meyer. ‘People point out that he is integral to their game plan, which is true. There isn’t a better box-kicking scrumhalf in world rugby. But that doesn’t take into account his full value.
‘As the link between the forwards and the backs he is the most influential player on the park. Your decision-making has to be so sharp there, especially at international level where space and time are at a premium. No player can match his decision-making under pressure.’
Also in the new issue, on sale this week:
– Bryan Habana needs creative players around him if he’s to start scoring tries at Test level again
– Francois Louw refuses to believe that his World Cup dream is over
– Local businessman Robert Gumede on why he’s invested in the Lions, transforming the game, and the players he’d like to bring to Joburg
– Stirling Mortlock on what the Rebels hope to achieve in their debut Super Rugby season, why Danny Cipriani will excel, and his desire to get back into the Wallabies squad
– Alcohol addiction and excessive partying cost kiwi referee Steve Walsh his job in 2008. SA Rugby magazine finds out how he turned his life around
– JP Pietersen is confident he can regain the form that made him one of the world’s best wingers in 2007
– While the Test nations up north are coming to terms with the new law interpretations, the club structures and mentality will forever contrast the philosophy down south
– It’s been just over a year since Gareth Thomas became the first openly gay professional rugby player. In this candid interview, the former Wales captain talks about his new life, changing perceptions, and being portrayed by Mickey Rourke in an upcoming Hollywood movie
– The Olympic Games will transform sevens rugby
– Referees must stop interpreting the laws and start applying them consistently
– The three Pacific Island rugby nations will never be able to compete with the world’s best
– Jacques Cronjé on his World Cup snub, maturing, and going head-to-head with Sébastien Chabal at Racing Métro
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603 Comments
7 Feb 2011, 06:12 am
King = McCaw, FDP = a very good prince
7 Feb 2011, 06:19 am
“pure genius” – ryan vrede
7 Feb 2011, 06:34 am
FdP’s biggest attribute to the Boks in recent years is by keeping – usually – Januarie out of the Boks line up.
Some dubious honours for such a fine scrumhalf.
7 Feb 2011, 06:35 am
I didn’t know Richie McCaw was a scrumhalf.
Fourie du Preez is a legend. With his presence, Brutal Bakkies and Matfield, the Boks chances of going further than the group stage is already assured…even with the clown as a coach.
7 Feb 2011, 06:36 am
@NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-1:
If it makes you feeling better,,,
7 Feb 2011, 06:39 am
@NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-1:
Reechie doesn’t play in RSA does he?
And it’s been some time since he was ‘King of Super-rugby’ now hasn’t it?
7 Feb 2011, 06:40 am
The return of FdP will also likely signal the return to form of Morne Steyn, answering the Boks’ flyhalf conundrum.
Old rules vs new rules argument aside, 2009 was successful for the Boks on the back of the accuracy of their box kicks.
2010 not so good, as no scrummy could provide the accuracy FdP could in those kicks, leaving Morne to bear the brunt of box kick attempts, while doubly marked by defenders (no need to cover scrummy’s attempts).
I guess we’ll have to wait and see how the Bulls to find out for sure.
7 Feb 2011, 06:43 am
They didn’t come better than FdP of 2009
Nevertheless, he has been injured too often now and no assurance he will perform at the same mastery and intensity as before.
He needs at least another 3 months break from the game, I wouldn’t pick him ahead of Pienaar right now.
7 Feb 2011, 06:46 am
“Bryan Habana needs creative players around him if he’s to start scoring tries at Test level again”
That’s why he should have made the move to The Sharks. With Mvovo linking up with him and the flair of our backs, Habana would be flourishing in Durban.
Now he’s wallowing in no man’s land with a coach that does not know what to do with him. Enjoy Cape Town Habana.
7 Feb 2011, 06:54 am
You boys took the bait early this morning.
7 Feb 2011, 06:57 am
Also, the (now) 36 year old Thomas is going to be played by the 58 year old Mickey Rourke?
Seems as ridiculous as casting a guy to play a 20yr-old Jonah Lomu who is actually older than Lomu is now.
7 Feb 2011, 07:04 am
Remember he was a very good player in 09, the most boring year in the history of Rugby. The game is very different as Morne has found out. Let’s see what he has. All power to him. But let’s not make out he’s better than what he is, until he has proven it.
7 Feb 2011, 07:19 am
Wow. I bet the Gareth Thomas movie is going to be a real blockbuster.
It’s gonna be tough choosing between it and Brokeback Mountain 2 when they hit the cinemas together.
In the end, I think I’ll go for Brokeback Mountain 2. The Cape Town setting will swing it for me, and I do prefer local rugby movies over foreign ones…
7 Feb 2011, 07:26 am
I wonder if Lyndon Bray will watch it.
7 Feb 2011, 07:27 am
I know that these are only warm-up games, but if this is the level at which both the Sharks and the Stormers will play Superrugby this season, I forsee a couple of upsets this season. The Lions and Cheetahs must be quietly confident at their chances of joining the Bulls in the knockout phases!
7 Feb 2011, 07:33 am
Everybody knows that Richie is the real King
7 Feb 2011, 07:40 am
@Tegejo(Tegejo)-15: With the Lions playing the Bulls in their first game , i smell an upset – lets be honest if you are going to beat the Bulls it is at the beginning of the season before they build momentum
7 Feb 2011, 07:43 am
@stew(stew)-17: to the Reds it doesn’t matter, they sommer beat them anytime, momentum or no momentum!
7 Feb 2011, 07:53 am
@DonutDunning(DonutDunning)-11:
Rourke ain’t no *** pin-up either though… just ask Grant10 and his missus JR…
7 Feb 2011, 08:05 am
How disappointing.
I thought this was another article was about Luke.
Gutted.
7 Feb 2011, 08:34 am
@gunther(gunther)-20: how was ZAR?
7 Feb 2011, 08:38 am
Jeans with a Jacket and tie? Is that the Pretoria tuxedo?
7 Feb 2011, 08:39 am
That said though, having the best rugby player on the planet on the cover again is sure to upset the Keo Youth League as well as the transformentalists.
7 Feb 2011, 08:39 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-18: the blues beat them last season AFTER theyd built “momentum”
7 Feb 2011, 08:39 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-21: Doesnt it only open 14 February down in CT? Or did Gunther attend one of the pre-parties?
7 Feb 2011, 08:40 am
so when is SA Rugby mag going to put Sir Elton on the cover?
7 Feb 2011, 08:43 am
@RedLion is waiting …(RL)-26: When they launch a wider format issue.
Im kidding, I like Elton.
7 Feb 2011, 08:44 am
@bryce_in_oz(bryce_in_oz)-19:
Is that your attempt at trying to be funny, you fail once again !!!
Go shag your kangaroo ……. it is feeling neglected you twat !!
7 Feb 2011, 08:45 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-24: Cling to that, we’ll cling to the titel Super 14 Champions.
7 Feb 2011, 08:47 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-29: 3-all isnt it?
7 Feb 2011, 08:51 am
@Great White Shark(Predawn)-4: Bakkies will be banned long before the WC. Look at this thick twats record over the last year. He is getting worse and the “coaches” at the Bulls aren’t exactly discouraging his stupid behavior.
7 Feb 2011, 08:52 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-30: Nope. Its one zip.
We are the current Super Champs, no other team holds that title.
7 Feb 2011, 08:52 am
Carlos is the first and only King.
7 Feb 2011, 08:54 am
@DonutDunning(DonutDunning)-7: The biggest problem with FDP is Morne Steyn. With only a half decent flyhalf outside him we won the WC. Hopefully this S15 will be the last we hear of Morne as the youngsters take over.
7 Feb 2011, 08:56 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-27:
7 Feb 2011, 09:02 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-25: Gunther is in the inner circle of the sushi brigade, where do you think those blokes get all their tips about fashion, food and maseratis?
7 Feb 2011, 09:08 am
Cant wait, looks like a great issue. Glad the King is back.
With Fourie and Brussow in the starting 15, I feel real good about our chances at the RWC
7 Feb 2011, 09:16 am
@garth(garth)-34:
Hmmm,,,
So Butch James is a “Half decent Flyalf’
I learn new thing every single day,,,,
7 Feb 2011, 09:19 am
@Hondo(Hondo)-38: Straight up..
7 Feb 2011, 09:27 am
@garth(garth)-39:
Maybe you will be kind enough to enlighten us on who is a ‘Decnet Flyhalf’?
7 Feb 2011, 09:49 am
@Hondo(Hondo)-40: Dan Carter, Quade Cooper, Jonny Wilkinson. Potentially there are a few South Africans that can add there names to that list, but they are all young still and will take time to develop. Butch will always be a good player, but never one of the greats. Morne should switch to full back. It’s great having someone in the team with his boot, but he cannot be the main decision maker in a team. Doesn’t have the creativity or the class.
7 Feb 2011, 09:52 am
Richie is the lyin’ king.
7 Feb 2011, 09:59 am
@garth(garth)-41: nope, morne is no fullback! the time of just sticking carthorses like percy at fullback is long gone! nowadays the fullback needs to have as much gas as the wings, think muliaina, beal, dagg.
7 Feb 2011, 10:00 am
@garth(garth)-41:
IMO the last real great flyhalf we had was Naas Botha.
Since his days we only had average ones. Even Lem Honiball was very limited, predictable and overrated. He was a great defender but as a tactical kicker and creative player he was only average at best.
Maybe Joel Stransky was the closest to the real thing during the professional era.
Pity Herscelle Gibbs picked cricket – he had it all.
7 Feb 2011, 10:00 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-25:
@Transformation(Transformation)-21:
the sushi was too cold and the champagne was non vintage and too warm.
at a guess I would say they are trying too hard.
still I managed to get a contract to supply waterskiing lessons and equipment to the police.
so not entirely wasted.
Actually that comment about Maserati’s is closer to the truth than you imagine. I introduced Tokyo to the brand a few years ago. Until then he was ******* around with Mercedes. Then I explained to him that Benzes, Hennessey ad Italian tailoring were so Youth League and that he needed to lift his game.
Now he rocks the Mas, single malts and Saville Row.
I feel so proud.
It’s like watching your god child play his first cricket match.
7 Feb 2011, 10:03 am
@Robzim(Robzim)-44:
the bookies are delighted gibbs chose cricket.
7 Feb 2011, 10:10 am
@gunther(gunther)-46:
Mmmm, he dropped them badly the time he “forgot” to follow the script that Hansie laid out for him.
7 Feb 2011, 10:12 am
@Robzim(Robzim)-47:
that’s the time you know about
7 Feb 2011, 10:14 am
@gunther(gunther)-45: oh yeah? you’re like the lifestyle guru to the revolutionaries.
you must be the guy tony said he had on a retainer to keep him abreast of trends
7 Feb 2011, 10:23 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-49:
actually Tony uses me to keep abreast of breasts.
I am udderly indispensible.
I am listed under his speed dial as ipimpi.
7 Feb 2011, 10:23 am
@gunther(gunther)-45: from now on i’m going to call you Peter Perfect from now on… 8)
7 Feb 2011, 10:24 am
Hey didn’t they use this headline for Furry just before WC 2007 too?
7 Feb 2011, 10:24 am
@gunther(gunther)-48:
I was hoping he would tell more in his latest book but unfortunately he only told us about his successes with the groupies. At a time I thought I was reading about Mick Jagger.
He is probably the only international cricketer in the world who manage to physically fall asleep on the field while doing stretching exercises under the watchful eye of a fitness trainer.
Entertainer par excellence though
7 Feb 2011, 10:27 am
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-52:
And what do you say of Liverpool?
Fernando did not look very happy last night
7 Feb 2011, 10:27 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-51:
but my name is gunther?
7 Feb 2011, 10:27 am
Anyway. Doesn’t matter. GO LIVERPOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!
7 Feb 2011, 10:29 am
@Robzim(Robzim)-54: I’m so over him, and his issues. Chelsea can have him. Good luck to him. Moving on!
Yesterday’s result was sweet. But Man U losing to Wolves was even better.
7 Feb 2011, 10:30 am
@Robzim(Robzim)-53:
of course he won’t put that bit in.
he doesn’t want to get banned.
he still has a T20 career in New Zealand to consider.
so much of ability and so little of brain.
7 Feb 2011, 10:30 am
@gunther(gunther)-50: HAHAHAHAHA
7 Feb 2011, 10:32 am
I am going to get right to the point: The new ABSA branded Sprinbok jersey is a disgrace. As a Graphic Designer I am appalled by the placement and size of the Absa logo.
It’s great that Absa is pouring money into rugby, but the massive Absa logo on the chest(not the stomach as usual) is terrible and making the boks jersey look like a cheap retail ad. When I saw John Smit in the new jersey he looked like a walking talking ATM.
It looks like it is the Absa rugby team, not the Sprinboks, as the enormous Absa logo is right against the Springbok an Protea logo’s. Their is no way the tiny Springbok logo can compete with the massive Absa logo, and it almost looks like an afterthought.
Was Absa not happy with having their logo on the stomach? Was it not big enough to their liking? This is typical of an idiotic marketing team who selfishly only worries about the size of their brand, and nothing else. And in the process making themselves and their brand look like inconsiderate corporate idiots.
It is understandable that Absa would wan’t their logo on the jersey, their is nothing wrong with that. But surely the Absa logo is not the most important element on the jersey.
Why did Saru approve this jersey? Did they not fight to protect the Springbok brand from being disrespected like this? Or is the Absa money doing the talking?
7 Feb 2011, 10:36 am
@Robzim(Robzim)-44: He had it all except the right temperament. Whos knows maybe he would have applied his mind to rugby more..
7 Feb 2011, 10:39 am
@Pypkan(Pypkan)-60:
good point.
I think you should close your ABSA account immediately
7 Feb 2011, 10:43 am
@Pypkan(Pypkan)-60: Agree 100%
When will big brands ever realise that what they think is smart and bold exposure is actually just pissing the public – their precious Target Market – off beyond belief?
If you ever want to knock your own brand image, then use it to dilute a brand that the public is really passionate about.
If they had thought about it for longer than 5 minutes, they would have devised a version of the logo that could blend in with the design of the jersey. Everyone would still know it’s there, and see it in all close-ups. But everyone would also be genuinely impressed with their efforts to respect the green and gold.
Sadly, the marketers aren’t true fans, so there’s no way they’d know or understand this.
7 Feb 2011, 10:49 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-63:
At least the Absa logo is in gold !!!
7 Feb 2011, 10:50 am
@Pypkan(Pypkan)-60: GO BIG or GO HOME
7 Feb 2011, 10:55 am
Based on Habana’s 2010 and early 2011 form he must be the k@kkest wing in SA — by far! how bwas he on saturday?? growing your hair won’t help you play better habana .. it only makes you look a bigger po3phol!
7 Feb 2011, 10:56 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-65: With a boring bank brand on a rugby jersey that is not good advice.
7 Feb 2011, 10:59 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-63: Very true. Luckily sponsors logo’s is not allowed on jerseys in the World Cup.
7 Feb 2011, 10:59 am
@Pypkan(Pypkan)-60:
The same guys in SA rugby approved the new Super rugby format.
Figure that.
7 Feb 2011, 10:59 am
Habs not at his best, but I think he is getting written off to soon, could leave some with egg on their face !!
7 Feb 2011, 11:01 am
@justrugby(justrugby)-70:
he was average last year as well.
the egg is starting to smell a bit.
7 Feb 2011, 11:06 am
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-69: I can’t remember who said it, but it is very true: If we had the same quality administrators as our rugby players, we could be unbeatable.
7 Feb 2011, 11:09 am
@gunther(gunther)-71:
I bet the Bulls are having a quiet laugh at how the whole Habana transfer to WP turned out.
We got him on the up, and sold him on his way down.
Now we’ve got Bjorn on the way up.
Side note: If you’re career’s taking a dip, it is wiser to stay in the structures you know, where they can support you to try and get back to your old form, rather than having to prove yourself all over again in a new team that paid big bucks for you and will now expect a rapid return on their investment.
Anyway, Habana made his bed and now he must live with it.
7 Feb 2011, 11:14 am
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-57: I cannot believe that my Arsenal chucked away a 4 goal advantage against Newcastle – the gap could have been only 2 points
7 Feb 2011, 11:15 am
@Tacitus(Tacitus)-73: Laugh quietly all you like. Your buying was no better when you took both Jaco Pretorius and Wickus van Heerden from us. Even old Zane had more flair as a Griqua. But I bet you don’t see it like that.
7 Feb 2011, 11:15 am
@Couchcoach(GI POT)-74:
If you spot an Arsenal supporter today walking his dog, tell him to phone 0800 40 41 42 43 44 to assist him in holding onto a lead (from twitter).
7 Feb 2011, 11:16 am
@Couchcoach(GI POT)-74: Fukkenshocking. And do you think a Newcastle supporting brother will ever keep quiet about it?
7 Feb 2011, 11:17 am
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-76:
7 Feb 2011, 11:22 am
@Couchcoach(GI POT)-74: bloody useless Gooners! 3-0 up in the first 10 minutes and they chuck it away…can’t wait for them to play Barca on the 16th…
7 Feb 2011, 11:28 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-75: Jaco and Wickus combined pricetags probably wasnt half that of Habana’s.
Flair? Flair rugby players are a dime a dozen. Zane is quite easily the best positional 15 in SA at the moment. We’ll take the credit.
7 Feb 2011, 11:38 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-80: Wrong. He was an exciting, running, counterattacking fullback before the Bulls turned him into an affroed Gerbrandt Grobler.
7 Feb 2011, 11:44 am
this ones for you Keo… you mamparra..
how does Umaga wanting to reclaim his AB spot spell NZ being desperate? lets face it, he would be 5th or even 6th in line behind Nonu, Smith, SBW, Fruean, Kahui etc..
is this another one of your famous tweets?? you know, like the “NZ is K@k” tweet that worked so wondrously for you last year?
and here I thought only the Boks had a clown in charge of proceedings…
7 Feb 2011, 11:51 am
Going on Basil Carzis’ “conditioning program” consists of a number of exercises in becoming a prime Bulls backline player:
Step 1: Gain 15kg
Step 2: Learn to run straight into your opponent
Step 3: Neglect carrying the ball in both hands as that could cause knock-ons in executing Step 2
Step 4: If FdP or Morne Stain is not on your outside, resort to kicking a worthless garry-owen
7 Feb 2011, 11:52 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-81: Again. The Bulls made of him a more well-rounded player, smarter, more tactically appreciative.
And we threw in Super Rugby success and a Springbok blazer to seal the deal.
But I guess in his heart-of-hearts Zane yearns to go back to the Kwas as he reckons his play went backwards since joining the Bulls?
7 Feb 2011, 11:53 am
Is that Kenny Dalglish?, The King?
7 Feb 2011, 11:56 am
@XhosaKid(XhosaKid)-85: the 2nd Coming of King Kenny
7 Feb 2011, 12:09 pm
@Frankly speaking(Frankly speaking)-83:
what are you talking about?
are you still pissed from celebrating your Double Velvet Trophy?
7 Feb 2011, 12:13 pm
@Frankly speaking(Frankly speaking)-83: You forget Step 5:
Have them score 35 tries and win the Super 14.
7 Feb 2011, 12:21 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-88: I was referring specifically to the backline players. Those lads who make up the numbers outside of Stain. Meisie, Petoors & co.
7 Feb 2011, 12:24 pm
@Frankly speaking(Frankly speaking)-89:
mmm and how many tries did they score in the super 14 last year?
7 Feb 2011, 12:29 pm
@Couchcoach(GI POT)-74: The ref had a shocker, but still. Arsenal defence was very poor.
7 Feb 2011, 12:30 pm
@XhosaKid(XhosaKid)-85: King Kenny has a funny way of celebrating goals. He celebrate’s harder than the players. Once would swear he scored the goal.
7 Feb 2011, 12:35 pm
NZ will probably win the RWC … but hell they have ugly chicks!! watched the 7′s … they look like bulldogs!!
7 Feb 2011, 12:40 pm
Peter de Villiers worried about Super Rugby fatigue
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06 February 2011, 21:23
Springboks coach Peter de Villiers fears the expanded Super Rugby competition could leave his players suffering from exhaustion at this year’s World Cup.
The new 15-team Super Rugby competition starts on February 18 and ends on July 9, with leading Springboks potentially playing 19 matches across three different time zones.
The World Cup starts in New Zealand on September 9, after an abbreviated Tri-Nations tournament from July 23 to August 27.
“There is a concern that the players could physically be totally exhausted after the Super Rugby competition,” De Villiers told a news conference in Johannesburg. “The competition is going to be more intense and therefore more exhausting.”
The competition’s new focus on local derbies increases the intensity.
The 15 teams have been divided into three country-based conferences — South Africa, New Zealand and Australia — and will play each of their countrymen home and away.
That means the leading Springboks could play eight local derbies, traditionally the hardest-fought matches in Super Rugby in South Africa.
De Villers said: “The fact they will play home and away against each of the other South African teams means the intensity will be even higher. But the man in the street in South Africa doesn’t worry about competing against the rest of the world, if his team is the best here then he’s happy.”
UNDER THREAT
De Villiers, whose position was under threat last year after South Africa won just one of their six Tri-Nations matches, said he would choose the best players for the World Cup and tailor the game plan to suit them.
“The personnel will determine the game plan, and the first XV has proven that they are the best to go to the World Cup. You can’t go to war and mount a cannon on a canoe,” De Villiers said.
“We had a great meeting with the Super Rugby coaches and we all know we have to manage the players. But this new competition is also an excellent opportunity for the players to prepare continually for the World Cup.
“We are all on the same page when it comes to the number of minutes’ playing time that is ideal, but it’s a relative thing, and it will be done player-by-player.
“We trust the integrity of the franchises, but we know the pressure on them is great. Some of them are struggling to get sponsors. But our medical team will check the players and determine when they should be pulled out.”
7 Feb 2011, 12:40 pm
@Boo_Habana(suffer_guy)-93: they were referred to as hot on friday, so i don’t know…
7 Feb 2011, 12:43 pm
“But the man in the street in South Africa doesn’t worry about competing against the rest of the world, if his team is the best here then he’s happy.”
really PDV? is this how the average SA “man in the street” feels? seeing the uproar last year I would have to differ with the clown..
7 Feb 2011, 12:44 pm
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-94: “But the man in the street in South Africa doesn’t worry about competing against the rest of the world, if his team is the best here then he’s happy.” – Pdv knows Tacitus
7 Feb 2011, 12:47 pm
@XhosaKid(XhosaKid)-85: Like Nas Escobar, It was written!!!!!
7 Feb 2011, 12:48 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-97: Hahahahahahahaha. Yeah!
7 Feb 2011, 12:50 pm
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-94: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA go PDV!!!
Pdv knows Poppa
“The personnel will determine the game plan, and the first XV has proven that they are the best to go to the World Cup. You can’t go to war and mount a cannon on a canoe,” De Villiers said.
7 Feb 2011, 12:54 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-100: he keeps talking of war thopugh Trans, doesnt he know apartheid finished in the 90s?
someone should tell him, perhaps you could cut and paste it to him?
7 Feb 2011, 12:54 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-100: And the Pdv hits keep on coming.
7 Feb 2011, 12:55 pm
@gunther(gunther)-90: Scoring a try means you only have to dot the ball down over the white line. Something an average, robotic and one-dimensional back can do…
7 Feb 2011, 12:56 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-101: You got really ugly chicks in NZ or is it just the ugly mugs that like rugby?
7 Feb 2011, 12:56 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-101: for someone who grew up in a “free environment” apartheid is on your mind a lot chap…
7 Feb 2011, 12:57 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-101:
No he is refering to battle generally. He considers the World Cup, a war. To an extent he is right. Bok coach job is a poisoned challice. He might be jobless after October if the Boks don’t win. It’s cut throat business. He is talking about survival.
7 Feb 2011, 12:59 pm
Bryan Habana with his Pink Boots and ‘Michael Jackson Teenage Hairstyle’ looked as though he had arrived at the game directly from the J&B Met the week before.
Mind you the way he is playing, he most probably did!
Perhaps if he stopped attending every ‘wannabe celeb function’ in Cape Town and focussed on his core vocation he perhaps could improve.
7 Feb 2011, 13:00 pm
@104 it was the influx of xhosa’s that has added the ugly value to NZ.
7 Feb 2011, 13:04 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-108: hahaha Xhosas in NZ? bwahahahaha funny guy
7 Feb 2011, 13:06 pm
Bryan Quota Habana
7 Feb 2011, 13:07 pm
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-106: I dont think any coach is safe during a World cup year…though the more he makes reference to war the more I think the Bok team is in trouble.. if you take a seige mentality then theres the likelihood of falling into a very myopic plan, not conducive to a football team IMO..
@Transformation(Transformation)-105: just helping you with the struggle Trans…I know you strive to be an ANC YOuth League Leader…
7 Feb 2011, 13:11 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-111: tl tl tl i’m so far removed from the youth league, Gunther is more the youth league connect…
7 Feb 2011, 13:12 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-112: oh ok… ANC Senior Citizens League Leader then
7 Feb 2011, 13:13 pm
@Frankly speaking(Frankly speaking)-103:
hahaha..
you are a bigger idiot than I though you were.
How mmany tries did the multi-dimensional non-robotic backs of the stormers score last year.
now stop being a doosie
7 Feb 2011, 13:17 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-100:
poops will go to war if anybody tries to mount a cannon on his canoe.
he’s only just replaced it
7 Feb 2011, 13:20 pm
@gunther(gunther)-115: trust you to be thinking of mounting things on my canoe… finally out of the closet grunter, good to see…
7 Feb 2011, 13:23 pm
@Frankly speaking(Frankly speaking)-89: Van den Heever 8. Hougaardt (on the wing) 7. Meisiekind 5. Zane 5. Dippenaar 1. Steyn 5. Fourie 2.
Happy?
7 Feb 2011, 13:24 pm
Benni has eaten himself into a financial pickle, it seems:
Benni fined R2.4m by Hammers
2011-02-07 10:17
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Johannesburg – Embattled former Bafana Bafana striker Benni McCarthy was again fined almost £200 000 (R2.4 million) by his relegation threatened club West Ham for failing to meet fitness targets.
McCarthy was deemed too large for a Premier League player, especially for a club fighting relegation, and was ordered to work on his fitness. Failure to meet his target would result in hefty financial penalties.
The former SA national team player did meet his target but was left out of the 25-man West Ham squad for the second half of the season.
Hammers boss Avram Grant believes the weight loss has slowed the striker. “He reached the targets but I think that affected his movement,” said Grant.
“He’s a very good player and one of the best finishers in training that I have ever seen, and I have had some good players. But now we need players with movement and the advantage of being quick, and we have others.”
McCarthy was challenged at the beginning of the season to lose 2.2lb in weight for five or six weeks or face a fine of one week’s wages each time he failed.
He reached his target of 13st 5lb by October after ballooning to more than 15st at one stage and his body fat went down from 24.2 percent at the end of last season to 16 per cent by mid-August. A professional athlete is expected to carry from five to 12 percent.
Meanwhile, his agent Rob Moore, told the Daily Mirror that McCarthy wanted to play and did not want to just sit around and collect his cheque. McCarthy earns £38 000 a week and appears to have been fined five times in his long-term weight battle.
”Avram has a job to do and the team are in a difficult position, so you can’t blame him for making decisions he believes in, but Benni has had hardly any game time and it’s inevitable he would get a bit disheartened.
”He’s at the level of fitness and weight the club prescribed and they are happy with that. But he is 33 years old and we have to be realistic,” Moore told Daily Mirror.
7 Feb 2011, 13:28 pm
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-94:
“You can’t go to war and mount a cannon on a canoe”
Brilliant – sheer genius from the Maestro.
7 Feb 2011, 13:30 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-116:
poops.
we are talking about canoes here?
real ones.
nobody mentioned closets or anything else
If there is something you want to get off your chest however just remember you are amongst family here ony keo.
We have seen so much from you, I doubt you could shock us anymore
7 Feb 2011, 13:30 pm
@cab(cab)-119: I’m not sure I agree though. I’d hate to find myself up shitcreek without a canon.
7 Feb 2011, 13:31 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-121:
lol, they all cooked in the canoe. its great stuff.
7 Feb 2011, 13:32 pm
@gunther(gunther)-120: really grunter, dont try and backtrack now..
though from your last comments I think the backtrack is right up your alley… maevis is really a man isnt she?
7 Feb 2011, 13:33 pm
The return of the kickking more like it
7 Feb 2011, 13:39 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-118: Eish Benny. Leave the burgers alone already!
7 Feb 2011, 13:40 pm
@KevinRack(KevinRack)-124: True. Box kick baby!
7 Feb 2011, 13:42 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-123:
poops.
maevis is my domestic executive.
she is a xhosa princess.
you seem to be dreaming about something else entirely
7 Feb 2011, 13:44 pm
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-125:
apparently his nickname at the hammers is the Great Gatsby…
7 Feb 2011, 13:45 pm
@gunther(gunther)-128:
Another Gunther classic.
7 Feb 2011, 13:48 pm
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-126:
Wiehet gewen van die Kings and Cheetahs?
7 Feb 2011, 13:49 pm
@gunther(gunther)-128:
7 Feb 2011, 13:50 pm
BTW isnt there somebody else that can pose for the Mag cover?
7 Feb 2011, 13:50 pm
@gunther(gunther)-128: And when his coach spoke about “posing a threat on the edge of the box”, Benni initially thought he was referring to the proposed health warnings on MacDonalds packaging.
7 Feb 2011, 13:51 pm
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-130: We got our arses handed to us alright. Philip Burger and his boys tore into us big time in the first half. Kings played a little better in the second, but it was already over rower. We sat in the rain watching our team take a beating. 45 – 17 to the Cheetahs. It was good for the Kings tho. They realize there is still plenty hard work ahead.
7 Feb 2011, 13:55 pm
@Pypkan(Pypkan)-60: Brilliant – BRILLIANT post mate!! Well said!
Absolutely sick of the over-commercialisation of everything – nothing is sacred to the greedy, corporate, over-zealous capitalist vermin! SASOL had their logo much lower down…
Anyways – you, me and a girl called Sue – ie ALL OF US – have the power over these f#ckers! DON’T but the jersey! BOYCOTT the jersey! Keep your old SASOL Bok jersey, or any other old jersey you may have – DO NOT buy the merchandise with the Absa logo on. And don’t open any Absa bank acounts…
Hurt them in the only place the f#ckers care about – their pockets!
7 Feb 2011, 13:56 pm
At least they hammered the Bulls!
7 Feb 2011, 13:58 pm
@Nick Armstrong(Nick Armstrong)-135:
Go join Afriforum! They have a campaign against ABSA!
7 Feb 2011, 13:59 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-133:
“caution contents will make objects in your mirror larger than they appear”
sadly he had no idea that Benni’s outstanding finishing abilities applied mainly to happy meals.
apparently Benni has blamed his bosses Israeli accent mistaking the words protein shake for burger ‘n shake.
fortunately poops doesn’t play for the hammers or he would have tried to bugger the sheik.
Avram responded that Benni eats like a Palestinian in a hummus jacuzzi.
I expect this to get ugly.
7 Feb 2011, 14:02 pm
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-137: How’s that going?
Any figures on how many bank accounts were closed?
7 Feb 2011, 14:06 pm
@gunther(gunther)-138: Now I see why Benni (or Ben, as he is now called) was considered one of the biggest signings in Hammers history.
7 Feb 2011, 14:06 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-139:
Ive got no idea how far Afriforum got with closing down ABSA
Some of Keo’s bloggers mustve been pissed when they saw Ramos presenting the Bok jerseys
7 Feb 2011, 14:09 pm
@gunther(gunther)-138: HAHAHAHAHA
@ “Avram responded that Benni eats like a
Palestinian in a hummus jacuzzi.” bwahahaha
7 Feb 2011, 14:09 pm
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-130: Cheetahs. Nie seker wat die score was nie. Dis baie swak dat daar net gekonsentreer word op WP, Sharks Bulls en Lions se voorbereiding…
7 Feb 2011, 14:11 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-140:
massive indeed.
it’s true that they have started calling him Ben.
“there’s only two Big Ben’s
there’s only two Big Ben’s”
rings out around the terraces…
7 Feb 2011, 14:11 pm
@Nick Armstrong(Nick Armstrong)-135: get over yourself man, it’s just a national team jersey ffs!
7 Feb 2011, 14:13 pm
@ Mighty Horua – I detect a political edge to the tone of your posts… I’m not interested in making this political..
It’s to do with b#stardising the Bok jersey! Why couldn’t they simply place the logo in the same place, same size, as SASOL…???
Anyways – if you wanna buy one of their jerseys – go ahead – buy one… For those who do take a principled stand against the over-commercialisation – based on nothing but short-sighted greed – of the jersey – then simply DO NOT buy it…
ESPECIALLY – do NOT buy the jersey with the Bok on the sleeve – ie the RWC jersey… Again – the only thing these corporate vermin – and their lackeys administering the game understand – is their pockets – so hurt them there! BOYCOTT the merchandise!
7 Feb 2011, 14:16 pm
@ Transformation – I see tradition obviously holds no sway with you… No worries – each to their own. To true Bok supporters – they will not like what Absa/SARU have come up with…
As pypkan pointed out – from a professional design perspective – it LOOKS SH#T too!!
7 Feb 2011, 14:18 pm
@Tegejo(Tegejo)-143:
Rosso het laat weet dat die Kings op hul hel gekry het!
45 – 17
7 Feb 2011, 14:21 pm
@Nick Armstrong(Nick Armstrong)-146:
mighty only buys counterfeit crusaders jerseys.
7 Feb 2011, 14:22 pm
@Nick Armstrong(Nick Armstrong)-146:
No political tone!
Over the past 30 years ABSA has poured money into SA rugby – and if it wasnt for them – SA would play regular test matches vs Namibia and Kenya
I say let them put their logo whenever they want!
7 Feb 2011, 14:25 pm
@gunther(gunther)-149:
Naah! Strictly Bulls and Sharks jerseys that the Zimbos are selling in Durban Road!
7 Feb 2011, 14:37 pm
@ Gunther – hahahahahahaha!
All in a good laugh hey… 
@ Mighty – I hear you mate – and, yes – absolutely – I do not forget that – ESPECIALLY the support they have given to the best, and oldest, provincial competition in world rugby – our beloved Currie Cup!
Yeah – maybe my words were a little strong – my objections are voiced against the broader ‘prostituting’ of everything ‘sacred’ – ie steeped in tradition and history – in sport today… Let me remind you – let any sport lose its core values – it’s principled core values – and it will die… Maybe not ‘today’ – but it will whither like anything else based on the fake towers of the ‘money god’…
7 Feb 2011, 14:57 pm
@Nick Armstrong(Nick Armstrong)-147: “true Bok supporters”
hahahaha
7 Feb 2011, 15:08 pm
@Nick Armstrong(Nick Armstrong)-152: today, tomorrow, together
do the Bok player play for free like the first Bokke played for pride and honour?
why do we have SARPA yapping at the heels of SARU about player contracts, are the players greedy?
SARU has to make money to keep these players contracted in this country and NOT lured by the pound to the UK and France, they can’t do that on a biltong stall budget, get real! S
mit, Matfield, Bakkies, Fdp, Fourie etc, would ALL be gone if SARU didn’t compliment the franchise salaries with sizable contracts! Pay them with tradition and honour and see how quickly they will be GONE!
7 Feb 2011, 15:23 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-154: I don’t think anyone is saying the Boks shouldn’t have a corporate sponsor. Everyone knows how important this is. The gripe here is the size and placement of the logo. A sponsor who recognises and respects the jersey for its heritage by keeping the logo modest and non-intrusive would win the hearts and minds of the people far more than the one who tries to plaster it as big and bold as he can. Incorporating a subtle logo into the jersey design in a clever way (as opposed to simply slapping the logo onto the open space) would do far more for the brand.
7 Feb 2011, 15:30 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-155: go BIG or go home…well Happy Ntshingila in an ad industry veteran, so he is aware of the latest international trends in advertising
7 Feb 2011, 15:37 pm
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-150: Ie the Currie Cup has been enjoying Absa cash for a long time,25years!!!!, now the so-called “true rugby supporters” want to turn their noses at it? Hahahahaha
7 Feb 2011, 15:41 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-153: The true bok players, are chowing that cash big time. Thinking of bonus’ etc. John Smit was certainly smiling at the launch. ABSA MONEY B1TCHES!!! Eat your heart out.
All the Bok are thinking is: “WE GETTING PAID!”
7 Feb 2011, 15:44 pm
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-157: the problem is that ABSA opened their mouth as to the make up of the teams in the currie cup, and you know mos, tac & his afriforum “broeders” took umbrage and closed their savings accounts
so imagine now they have to wear a moerse ABSA emblem on their chests HAHAHAHAHA, kinda ironic really 
7 Feb 2011, 15:48 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-159: Well for years Absa was sorting out their beloved Currie Cup. The name on the jersey is a small price to pay. I don’t even think it looks bad at all.
I’m not delighted about Standard Chartered on the Liverpool Jersey. I loved Carlsberg, but I’m not going to throw a damn hissy fit about it.
7 Feb 2011, 15:53 pm
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-160: liverpool is scouser club man, you can’t compare it with the Bokke! how come the All Black jersey is not emblazoned with Poppa’s Canoes on it’s front?
7 Feb 2011, 15:53 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-155: Good post Katman,
Agree totally there. Think the logo is far, far too big and should actually have been left out. Jersey would have looked far smarter with no log on. Also the Protea could drop the big yellow strip on the top. Would make for a nicer looking Protea and balance the Bok on the other side.
Jersey right now just looks too busy. Less sometimes is better.
7 Feb 2011, 15:53 pm
@Puma(Puma)-162: log = logo
7 Feb 2011, 15:54 pm
We sold out to “The Man” a long time ago.
7 Feb 2011, 15:56 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-164: For sure we did. Pity.
7 Feb 2011, 15:57 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-161: Hey, you respect the Pool! And keep the Ab’s out of your sponsor b1tching.
7 Feb 2011, 15:58 pm
“….here comes the man, holds out his hand, he’s looking strangely at me….”
7 Feb 2011, 15:58 pm
@Puma(Puma)-162: the absa logo is the same font size as the red Mr Price on the Sharks jersey.
7 Feb 2011, 15:59 pm
So, FDP reveals why the BOKS struggled in 2010? Huh, is there something that we did not know? I thought that the real issue was that there were guys working on their careers after they are fired post WC 2011. They are all forming bands:
1. Fat Boys’ Revival
Lead singer: John “Speknek” Smit
Guitar: Ricky “Burger King” Februarie (used to be Januarie until he ate himself into another month)
Drums: AD “Pouch” Jacobs
Current hit song: “We do munchies while they do crunchies”
2. Three Blind Mice
Lead singer: Pieter “Smokey” De Villiers
Bass: Gary “Fading” Gold
Percussion: Di ck “the Pr ick” Muir
Current hit song: “Black Mechanic”
3. The Carthorse Ensemble
Piano: Frans “C’est la vie” Steyn
Triangle: Morne “No Brain” Steyn
Xylophone: JP “Juice Pelile” Pietersen
Tamborine: Zane “Pure Pain” Kirchner
Violin: Patrick “Can’t kick” Lambie
I believe that Habana is starting a band called, “Look,Mom, no hands” and Pierre Spies is going to call his band “The ancient aeroplane engine” – because try as you might, there is no hell you will get contact out of him.
7 Feb 2011, 16:00 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-167: anyone who says paroltones is going to get a PK.
7 Feb 2011, 16:01 pm
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-157: I think the ABSA on the jersey looks fine, actually looks better than Sasol, but it is the huge big logo to the side that makes the jersey look far too busy. Actually the logo pushes the ABSA to one side and really does not look good. Makes it sortef of looke lopsided..lol. Who ever designed it should have thought about just dropping the logo.
7 Feb 2011, 16:02 pm
@Puma(Puma)-171: sortef = sort of
7 Feb 2011, 16:02 pm
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-166: hahaha i ain’t b’tching, i’m asking you a simple question and seemingly you have no answer for it…imagine how many farms the NZRU would buy for Carl Hayman if they had a sponsor on their jersey
7 Feb 2011, 16:02 pm
i wouldnt worry about the size of the absa logo
I would worry about the size of the fat boys ego
7 Feb 2011, 16:02 pm
@Puma(Puma)-171: Jeez..lol. Must give this up. Another typo there..lol. looke = look
7 Feb 2011, 16:04 pm
@Couchcoach(GI POT)-169:
7 Feb 2011, 16:04 pm
@Puma(Puma)-175: At the boozer for lunch??
7 Feb 2011, 16:05 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-168: Transie but this is our national jersey
7 Feb 2011, 16:05 pm
@Couchcoach(GI POT)-169: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
classic! Gunther-esque!
7 Feb 2011, 16:06 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-177: Wish…hehe. Just had a coffee, think it was far to strong
7 Feb 2011, 16:08 pm
@Couchcoach(GI POT)-169: Hahahahahaha
7 Feb 2011, 16:09 pm
@grant10(grant10)-174: hi boet, i hope you enjoyed being at newlands and watching some rugga again…was that game really a “friendly”? i saw a lot handbags in there
7 Feb 2011, 16:09 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-168: Transie, I have no problem with the ABSA on the jersey, but it is their logo to the side that should have been dropped.
7 Feb 2011, 16:14 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-182: okes played hard….but my word the stormers were pi s s poor mate….same old same old….pack being bullied….made me mal i tell you…
7 Feb 2011, 16:15 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-182:
you can bet at least one of the handbags was granties mansac..
7 Feb 2011, 16:17 pm
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-160:
carlsberg is a drink for homeless people.
7 Feb 2011, 16:19 pm
@grant10(grant10)-184: even with CJ in the mix? what happened to deon fourie?
7 Feb 2011, 16:19 pm
@gunther(gunther)-185: It’s european!
7 Feb 2011, 16:22 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-187: even with cj at loosehead we were done in the scrums in 1 st half! Not sure where deon is….i think he and koster were injured still…
we need f Louw back asap….he is a pivotal player in that stormers set up imo
7 Feb 2011, 16:23 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-187: we missed J Smit playing for the sharks big time….his absence strengthened the sharks immeasurably…
7 Feb 2011, 16:26 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-173: Like I said. Some Saffas are moaning about their jersey, they need to deal with it. Other teams are fine with theirs. I have no desire to debate the issue with you, because you and I both know that I really couldn’t care less.
7 Feb 2011, 16:27 pm
@grant10(grant10)-189: CJ has never, IMO, been the best scrummager out there. His work on the park was OK though for me.
But you are right, we did get manhandled a bit in the scrums.
7 Feb 2011, 16:27 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-188:
so are left-hand drive cars.
and like left-hand drive cars they are best in Europe.
but don’t let it stop you.
I’m sure you pull it off with aplomb
7 Feb 2011, 16:27 pm
@gunther(gunther)-186:
Well I liked it on my Pool jersey! So there!
7 Feb 2011, 16:28 pm
@grant10(grant10)-190: LOL one of your funniest JS comments in a long time!
7 Feb 2011, 16:29 pm
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-191:
7 Feb 2011, 16:29 pm
@gunther(gunther)-193: man-purses are not my style.
But I see that the Seinfeld reference passed you by on that one
7 Feb 2011, 16:31 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-168: I have an Absa account, and I will continue to do so. So there is no so called grudge against them about their comments last year, as I believe it was blown out of proportion in an opportunistic attack by Afriforum.
I do believe that it is Absa’s right to have their logo on the jersey as it was Sasol’s right before them, and Castles before that.
My argument is about the size and the placement of the logo and thats it. The Mr Price logo you are referring to is big as well, but it does not interfere with the sharks logo as it is placed futher down.
The Absa logo is on the chest with the Springbok and Protea logo’s, and the top part of the Absa logo is about 1cm away from the Springbok logo. In any brands CI there are rules about the amount of empty space there should be around the logo and clearly this was not followed. That is terrible design practice and makes our Bok jersey look like a cheap Pick and Pay retail newspaper insert. Your ignorant go big or go home argument wont work here, no matter how you spin it.
I actually have a lot of respect for Happy Ntshingila. He has always been a marketing man in the business and client service side of advertising agencies though. So he wouldn’t now much about technical graphic design.
7 Feb 2011, 16:31 pm
The size of the ABSA logo looks kakka and cheapens the jersey, but it’s not nearly as bad as the DHL stormers dishcloth.
7 Feb 2011, 16:32 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-197:
totally.
not really my thing.
7 Feb 2011, 16:33 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-199: Thankfully most of the Lions will be staring at the back of the jersey most of the time
7 Feb 2011, 16:34 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-168: I have an Absa account, and I will continue to do so. So there is no so called grudge against them about their comments last year, as I believe it was blown out of proportion in an opportunistic attack by Afriforum.
I do believe that it is Absa’s right to have their logo on the jersey as it was Sasol’s right before them, and Castles before that.
My argument is about the size and the placement of the logo and thats it. The Mr Price logo you are referring to is big as well, but it does not interfere with the sharks logo as it is placed futher down.
The Absa logo is on the chest with the Springbok and Protea logo’s, and the top part of the Absa logo is about 1cm away from the Springbok logo. In any brands CI there are rules about the amount of empty space there should be around the logo and clearly this was not followed. That is terrible design practice and makes our Bok jersey look like a cheap Pick and Pay retail newspaper insert. Your ignorant go big or go home argument wont work here, no matter how you spin it.
I actually have a lot of respect for Happy Ntshingila. He has always been a marketing man in the business and client service side of advertising agencies though. So he wouldn’t now much about technical graphic design.
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7 Feb 2011, 16:35 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-201: You mean when they’re huddled behind the posts and Schalk is giving them one of those “ag nee kak man ouens” talks?
7 Feb 2011, 16:36 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-195: I think he delivered his funniest late last week.
Something along the line of: “Id say that to his (Smittie’s) and then jog away at half pace. I should be save”.
7 Feb 2011, 16:36 pm
@gunther(gunther)-200: the had a whole episode about George Costanza who bought a man-purse and every time someone saw him they said ‘nice man purse George’, so which he relied with ever increasing frustration “it’s European!!!”
A few years ago I had a business meeting with a yank who had one. As we left the restaurant I casually said to him “don;t forget your man purse Ed…” and he replied (totally seriously) “It’s European”.
He never figured out why I was laughing at him.
7 Feb 2011, 16:37 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-199: Ain’t it the truth.
Saw it at the sports shops this weekend. It looks like someone pasted a DHL stamp on their chests.
7 Feb 2011, 16:37 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-203: LOL no, not what I meant, but ja, OK….
7 Feb 2011, 16:38 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-204: Yeah i saw that one. Had a chuckle at it myself I must say.
7 Feb 2011, 16:38 pm
@grant10(grant10)-189:
Deon Fourie played in the WP CC Semi final and the Final – in their last 6 games in fact – he is not injured
More likely the Stormers unearthed another gem hooker in the mold of Shimange and Chiliboi.
A sure bet.
7 Feb 2011, 16:39 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-205: Costanza was the best Seinfeld character.
“What do you mean you’ve never heard of shrinkage?!”
7 Feb 2011, 16:39 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-199: I dont want to go on about brands and logos any longer, but the Lions looks way more professional with a decent brands logo on their jersey. That Auto and General logo made them look like they were wearing Brankpan’s 1xv jersey.
7 Feb 2011, 16:40 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-204:
I think poor grantie is dreaming.
he is late into his 4th decade.
I think barney would take him at a jog, even with JR pulling at the leash.
Barney would then use grantie to grout his bathroom.
7 Feb 2011, 16:43 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-210: Many “Costanza-isms” that will go down in the annals of genius quotes ….
@gunther(gunther)-212: That’s very funny
7 Feb 2011, 16:45 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-213:
the good news is that barney loves dogs.
although I think he is lying when he says he couldn’t manage a whole one.
7 Feb 2011, 16:45 pm
@Pypkan(Pypkan)-202: i was taking the piss mate, don’t have a fit…
7 Feb 2011, 16:46 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-215: ABSA apologist!…..
7 Feb 2011, 16:46 pm
Nice pair of jean pant Fourie … he looks like one of those drunk old boys at derby games who cant let go of their school tie an blazer.
Lets hope he hasn’t lost any of his form – he was no doubt best in the business before getting injured.
7 Feb 2011, 16:47 pm
@Pypkan(Pypkan)-211: To be perfectly honest, no one really gets it right. Someone was defending the Sharks Mr Price jersey earlier on, but I find that the most offensive and tacky of all. Just the name alone makes me cringe, and it’s huge and frikkin bright red. The MTN logo on the new Lions kit also couldn’t clash more if they tried. And I guess this is all part of the marketer’s reasoning – if it clashes, it gets noticed (what they don’t always realise is that the old “any attention is good attention” saying is complete rubbish). The best incorporation of a logo into a super Rugby jersey is probably the white Vodacom logo on the Bulls kit.
7 Feb 2011, 16:49 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-201: Hehe, I hope so. The Lions will win some games this year though. It’s good to see they are backing younger guys like Minnie and Strauss ahead of the veterans.
7 Feb 2011, 16:49 pm
@gunther(gunther)-212: but Grant is fit, have you ever seen the steps outside his place? he says he jogs there every day
7 Feb 2011, 16:50 pm
@Pypkan(Pypkan)-202: Have to agree the logo on the jersey is way out and that pushes the ABSA to one side, so it looks lopsided and you very right hardly any space between Protea/Bok and the Absa logo below. Not well thought out and it does make our jersey look a bit cheap.
7 Feb 2011, 16:50 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-215: My mouth is still foaming!
7 Feb 2011, 16:50 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-216: hahaha “precious Bok supporter”!!!
7 Feb 2011, 16:51 pm
As a protest, we could always print mock replica Bok shirts that say:
ABSA
f*kken
lutely
not
7 Feb 2011, 16:52 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-218: Agree. Still must feel good to have a proper brand on board.
7 Feb 2011, 16:54 pm
@Pypkan(Pypkan)-219: Yes, they’re not going to be pushovers that’s for sure.
7 Feb 2011, 16:54 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-220:
I’ve never seen the steps outside Granties place.
It’s on my list, between the Great Wall of China and Easter Island.
7 Feb 2011, 16:56 pm
@Pypkan(Pypkan)-222: open some windows…
7 Feb 2011, 16:56 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-192: cj is industrious….but for me he is more of a 3 that can play at 1 than the other way around
7 Feb 2011, 16:57 pm
@gunther(gunther)-227:
7 Feb 2011, 16:59 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-224:
7 Feb 2011, 16:59 pm
@gunther(gunther)-227: I believe Grant re-enacts the running up the steps scene from Rocky every day.
7 Feb 2011, 16:59 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-223: Bladdy Agent
7 Feb 2011, 17:00 pm
@gunther(gunther)-227:
7 Feb 2011, 17:01 pm
@grant10(grant10)-229: yes i agree. I saw him take Beast back in the tackle/maul once or twice though.
7 Feb 2011, 17:03 pm
I would put money on me nailing smit over a 40 m dash….
after 40 that big fat bugger gets a roll on i may be in a spot of bother.
but over 40? No chance he catches me…
7 Feb 2011, 17:03 pm
sorry last line…meant under 40
7 Feb 2011, 17:04 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-224:
sell that to justin nurse at laugh-it-off
7 Feb 2011, 17:04 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-232: with “eye of the tiger” blazing on the Ipod…
7 Feb 2011, 17:04 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-235: ja…cj very good in tight exchanges….Elstaht gonna be a star….
7 Feb 2011, 17:07 pm
a few months ago i got chased by an Elsatian up Clifton 2 nd steps….now thats a farken climb of note….that bloody hound couldnt catch me…..so how is that fat St Bernard with a crocked neck gonna manage?
7 Feb 2011, 17:07 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-232:
Indeed.
Although instead of punching meat carcasses he works out using a soya enriched tofu punching bag…
7 Feb 2011, 17:07 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-239: And old Grantie, blissfully unaware of how loud he’s singing, belting out “Just a man and his will to survive …”
7 Feb 2011, 17:09 pm
@gunther(gunther)-242: And he tries to talk things through first, before resorting to punching.
7 Feb 2011, 17:10 pm
@grant10(grant10)-240: Elstaht is pretty good lock too, he could be the Stormers own Danie Russouw type player. I hope they use him as an impact player this year.
7 Feb 2011, 17:15 pm
@charo(charo)-238: I think he’s taken a break from Laugh it Off.
7 Feb 2011, 17:15 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-244:
in an effort to be more agressive he has tacked a picture of barney on to the punchbag.
It frightens the living tofu out of him every time it moves in the breeze.
7 Feb 2011, 17:16 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-246:
nursing his wounds?
7 Feb 2011, 17:18 pm
@Pypkan(Pypkan)-245: ja….feisty bu gger…exactly what stormers need …some hardegatness!
7 Feb 2011, 17:19 pm
@grant10(grant10)-240: Yes indeed he is. Makes me wonder about a guy like Koster though.
I also thought that Pieter Louw made a huge difference when he came on, he’s all class.
7 Feb 2011, 17:19 pm
@gunther(gunther)-248: Actually, yes. But it’s a terrible story.
7 Feb 2011, 17:22 pm
@grant10(grant10)-241: I’d like to see this Alsatian you outran up the steps. Either is was lame in its hind legs or it was chained to a lamp post.
7 Feb 2011, 17:23 pm
is = it
7 Feb 2011, 17:27 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-252: I admit i had a 50 m headstart…..and the steps are about 70 m high…i beat him over the road by about 2 m…
you do the maths
7 Feb 2011, 17:45 pm
Katman
Yep I heard about that.
I must say I’m also quite curious about Granties Alsatian.
Perhaps it was a two legged native of Alsace visiting his grandchildren.
7 Feb 2011, 18:11 pm
the 40m dash in a speedo and flip flops, followed by an alsation, with a final hop, skip and a jump into the hot tub.
7 Feb 2011, 18:20 pm
all i know is FdP better not be taking all this arse-kissing stuff to his head, cos he’s been old for a while and was not looking like the player of old just before his injury, he was a behaving like a bit of a prima donna whenever he got tackled, and for a blue bulle that is almost sacriledgeous, and also one of the reasons that FdP was the best in the world was that he could do everything including break with speed and strenght around the edges, but he’s become slightly 1D with the box-kicking **** – hopefully he comes back on the scene with renewed vigour and hunger to become the world’s best 9 again.
7 Feb 2011, 18:49 pm
@cab(cab)-257:
I agree, he is ageing and not the player he used to be – not dynamic enough anymore to keep up with players like Genia for example.
Bakkies, Victor, Jean, Bryan, Schalk, Smit and even Smith are also probably past their prime.
2015 should be a better year for SA in the WC.
7 Feb 2011, 18:52 pm
UCT seems to be winning fairly easily against Shimlas in Bloem.
Won’t be surprised if the Varsity cup final will again be between UCT and Stellenbosch with Stellenbosch winning it as usual.
7 Feb 2011, 19:09 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-258:
rob i think the Boks are looking good for 2011, except the snr players need to be hungry, fit and rested – slightly concerned about this extended S15, the coaches say they going to manage the players, but its never going to happen, or at least not to the degree needed to keep them primed for the RWC in October.
7 Feb 2011, 19:17 pm
@cab(cab)-260:
The key will be to find the balance between rest and play – it will differ from player to player- the gifted one will have to use all his talents and also be very assertive as the super 15 coaches will obviously first look after their own interest (I would too if my job depends on it)
7 Feb 2011, 19:22 pm
Jonty Rose back in the Cape and playing for Maties- nearly got his head taken off by a Pukke player- very physical so far , first Matie (Stokkies Hanekom, WP under 21) already off with concussion after 3 minutes
7 Feb 2011, 19:25 pm
Referee looks about 15 years old weighing in at a full 42 kg’s.
7 Feb 2011, 19:28 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-262:
Jody even
7 Feb 2011, 19:36 pm
fdp is the king allright…the king of kicking the leather of the ball and the best thing he can sleep soundly at night because nobody else are interested in taking away his mantle.long the live king fdp…and goodbye to the world cup as well!
7 Feb 2011, 19:40 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-264:
Hi rob
Jody is carrying so much weight , I am sure he has eaten Earl !!!
7 Feb 2011, 19:43 pm
Jody Rose is a spitbraai waiting to happen.
7 Feb 2011, 19:47 pm
@justrugby(justrugby)-266:
He is to the Matie team what Ricky is to the Stormers – maybe it’s a fashion thing.
7 Feb 2011, 19:48 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-268:
7 Feb 2011, 19:49 pm
The Matie hooker with the pink pant seems to be quite a useful player
7 Feb 2011, 19:58 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-252: @gunther(gunther)-255: hahaha hey u two, have u guys never seen an Alsatian?
7 Feb 2011, 20:03 pm
Transie
I can only assume that the Alsatian was trying to chase Grantie for stealing its owners’s speedo off the line.
7 Feb 2011, 20:28 pm
maybe grant had just seen the brazillian mens volleyball team and the alsation could sense grant was carrying a bone in his speedo?
7 Feb 2011, 20:28 pm
or luke was at the beach?
7 Feb 2011, 20:35 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-262: I thought he was looking to play for UJ, but I think that Mitch told him to piss-off.
7 Feb 2011, 20:37 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-273:
good day ranger . how you been??
was at the game saturday , so much better then tuesday
and when the other 7 players return that sharks forward pack gonna be huge
7 Feb 2011, 20:39 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-271:
For the record, I keep 2 Alsations – actually real name is German Shepherd.
A couple of years ago, I was at the Wanderers and it was pissing down. Covers on etc. And the then security company were using German Shepherds to protect the pitch. When some fool decided to turn the covers into a slippery slide.
The security guard let his dog loose. I was cheering for the doggie.
Well he almost made it over the advertising boards. Then it got a bit messy.
I quietly had another beer as it was still raining.
7 Feb 2011, 20:39 pm
@gunther(gunther)-272: why did the owner leave the gate open knowing his alsatian is aggressive?
7 Feb 2011, 20:45 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-273:
How was your game reserve experience?
No place like the bush.
7 Feb 2011, 20:45 pm
@I am a stormer(I am a stormer)-277: tl tl tl well that ‘fool’ was clearly not as nimble footed as out Grant
7 Feb 2011, 20:45 pm
@gunther(gunther)-272: I think Grantie failed to mention that the Alsatian (or even Elsation, as he’d prefer) was governed to the speed of its blind owner. But still, he beat the dog. So let’s break out the carbon neutral, organic cap classique.
7 Feb 2011, 20:46 pm
@I am a stormer(I am a stormer)-277: tl tl tl well that ‘fool’ was clearly not as fleet footed as our Grant
7 Feb 2011, 20:48 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-276: howdy man.
alls good here, alls good.
cant wait for ruggas to begin.
@I am a stormer(I am a stormer)-279: howzit man. ja, quality stuff. and sodwana was just as good.
how often you get to the bush?
7 Feb 2011, 20:50 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-281:
he is fast senor, really really fast!
7 Feb 2011, 20:55 pm
Welcome back General Du Preez.
Time to put all the pretenders back in their place.
7 Feb 2011, 20:55 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-283:
I got to the bush about 3 times in the last 15 months or so. Kruger is just 4 hours up the road for me.
Favourite place is Ngwenya Lodge – on the Crocodile River which forms the southern boundary of the park.
Otherwise Hazyview or Hoedspruit area slightly further north.
Always see plenty there.
7 Feb 2011, 21:00 pm
As for the Oros man down south in the shadow of the mountain.
He must be k*king himself. The General is back in town.
7 Feb 2011, 21:04 pm
@I am a stormer(I am a stormer)-286: have stayed at ngwenya lodge, great views but it was the end of summer so there was plenty of watar away from the river so not too many sightings.
but i dont really mind. shingwedzi, thats my favourite place in the kruger.
and i like mkambati in transies back yard. combines game and beach like few other places.
7 Feb 2011, 21:08 pm
Now for goodness sake don’t waste him on the 2011 S15 and 3N in a RWC year.
Give him gametime, keep him sharp but please preserve him for the RWC.
7 Feb 2011, 21:11 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-284: Arriba! Arriba!
7 Feb 2011, 21:17 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-288:
Was at Ngwenya July last year.
Saw a video in the pub – taken by a guest in July the previous year – showing a lion kill from that viewing deck. Very special – then everyone came out to play. A curious leopard even walked passed.
On one ocassion, we witnessed 4 of the big five from Ngwenya in one day. Very special.
7 Feb 2011, 21:20 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-290:
The only thing that would have passed him would be his knees going passed his ears.
Even going up stairs.
7 Feb 2011, 21:28 pm
Transie
Up until Grantie walked by it was probably quite placid.
Maybe it fancied Granties fair-trade rooibos latte.
Maybe the Bright Blue and PJ Powers playing on Granties iPod drove the poor thing insane.
7 Feb 2011, 21:36 pm
@gunther(gunther)-293: Thanks for the Great Wall of China/Easter Island post…..
7 Feb 2011, 21:39 pm
@gunther(gunther)-293: Grant put the speed in speedo. Jabulani!
7 Feb 2011, 21:42 pm
I had a text today from my local beauty salon offering Brazillians and Hollywoods……with a free “Vajazzle”….for Valentines day!!
I had no idea what it was, I had to google it!!
Blimey.
7 Feb 2011, 21:49 pm
Carole
Have you visited the temple if the rising speedo?
Was it worth the climb?
Katman
SA’s very own goldenballs.
Bend it like Bezeidenhout
7 Feb 2011, 21:51 pm
We had a leopard wander onto our building site here in Chad a couple of weeks ago. It was discovered on a Sunday morning when the guys arrived. Unfortunately it never made it back off the site as it was cornered, killed and eaten.
The hide is still drying on a rock.
I’m still shocked by it. But to the locals it was free food. End of.
7 Feb 2011, 21:54 pm
@gunther(gunther)-297: I have indeed visited Grants Eyre…..Even as someone who can run a bit, his steps are quite challenging.
Worth the climb, he has a great sea view!! Not impeded by billowing speedos either!
7 Feb 2011, 21:55 pm
@JockBok(JockBok)-298:
Bit of a shock for you, however would make a stunning sporran!!
7 Feb 2011, 21:57 pm
Carol
The small landing strip presented by the hollywood takes many novices by surprise.
Much like the 17th at Sawgrass.
However in my previous life I was a helicopter pilot in Nam.
So difficult approaches don’t bother me.
7 Feb 2011, 21:57 pm
@carol(carol)-300:
Oh dear. I’d be next on the menu of I tried to take it
7 Feb 2011, 22:00 pm
@gunther(gunther)-301:
My Swaar pilots a Huey from Nam….. at the Waterfront
7 Feb 2011, 22:01 pm
@gunther(gunther)-301: Tell me, have vajazles hit Cape Town yet?
Now that WOULD baffle a novice!!
7 Feb 2011, 22:01 pm
@gunther(gunther)-301: Or the 17th at Erinvale. Had the misfortune of hitting 2 drives deep into the Helderberg nature reserve on Sunday morning.
7 Feb 2011, 22:03 pm
@JockBok(JockBok)-302: Shame, you would be the ‘Bet Lynch’ at the Kilt wearers convention!!
Bold and Brassy!
7 Feb 2011, 22:05 pm
Jockster
I thought they had been banned?
Carole
The vajazzle?
I’m not sure which one you are talking about. But I hit cape town years ago and I’ve been hard at work ever since.
7 Feb 2011, 22:07 pm
@gunther(gunther)-307: I had to google it myself. Not sure if your google safe search is on or not.
7 Feb 2011, 22:08 pm
@carol(carol)-306:
Lol. It’s be more like Del Boys suitcase.
Mind you, I’d give Bet Lynch’s ear-rings a run for their money withe my dangly bits…
7 Feb 2011, 22:10 pm
Katman
Ranger would be proud.
Think of it as giving something back to the environment.
The homeowners at Erinvale get quite snooty if you try and retrieve your ball from their little slice of paradise ( ahem ) don’t they?
When confronted I always proclaim proudly that I’ve managed to hit bigger houses than theirs.
7 Feb 2011, 22:10 pm
@carol(carol)-304:
But it’s going to make your eyes water when you remove it.
Hell, it makes my eyes water just thinking about it.
7 Feb 2011, 22:13 pm
@gunther(gunther)-307:
Yeah, it’s not allowed to fly tourists anymore I think. The competition kicked up a stink about it being unsafe, and an emergency landing at Ysterplaat never exactly helped their case.
But they still use it for movies and special occasions. I was on it a couple of years ago, sitting in the machine gun seat at the side, imagining Melkbos beach was paddy fields…
7 Feb 2011, 22:14 pm
@gunther(gunther)-307: Get Katman or I am a Stormer to ‘explain’!!
7 Feb 2011, 22:14 pm
@gunther(gunther)-310: The best is to tee off before 7 on a Sunday morning, and then send a towering drive into their erf. I you’re lucky you get some good pinball action between the carport roof and the glass sliding door. That’s one way to stir up the old domestic disagreement. “I told we we shouldn’t have bought this stupid bloody golf house!”
7 Feb 2011, 22:15 pm
@I am a stormer(I am a stormer)-311:
I may give it a miss!!
7 Feb 2011, 22:15 pm
Geez, I had to google that as well
7 Feb 2011, 22:15 pm
@carol(carol)-313: You mean the punani bling? What’s to explain?
7 Feb 2011, 22:18 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-314:
Lol. My mate’s got a house at Arabella. He says it’s quite surreal having a braai on a Sunday and Sean Connery walks past…
7 Feb 2011, 22:18 pm
@carol(carol)-315:
Have you ever wondered where the little crystals that fall off might go to?
Might take you long moments to find them.
7 Feb 2011, 22:19 pm
Dear God.
Thank goodness Madame Gunther is out of town.
It pretty much renders the pear necklace superfluous.
I wondering what would happen if you got a vajazzle stuck in your teeth.
My dentist charges like chilliboy on the juice.
I think I’m going to take out out the disability-by-muff clause in my insurance policy.
Why risk it?
7 Feb 2011, 22:19 pm
@JockBok(JockBok)-316:
Hummmm….Hope you were not put off your supper!!
@>^..^< katman(katman)-317:
7 Feb 2011, 22:20 pm
@JockBok(JockBok)-318: “Hash anyone sheen my ball?”
7 Feb 2011, 22:22 pm
@I am a stormer(I am a stormer)-319:
The morning after a night at Teasers ‘Darling, how did you get that glitter on your chin?’
7 Feb 2011, 22:22 pm
@gunther(gunther)-320: I thought you had a passion gap?
7 Feb 2011, 22:23 pm
7 Feb 2011, 22:23 pm
@carol(carol)-321:
Nah, I’m having tuna tonight….
7 Feb 2011, 22:24 pm
Cheers boys…
I hope I leave you enlightened!!
7 Feb 2011, 22:25 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-322:
I know the term is used far too often, but fark mate, that was a genuine ROFL
7 Feb 2011, 22:25 pm
Katman
The best is when you hit a low scud of a hybrid into a courtyard with pool.
Like fish in a barrel.
Speaking of punani bling I had a very good curry at the Bombay Brasserie in town the other day.
7 Feb 2011, 22:26 pm
@carol(carol)-327:
Well you certainly gave us something to think about
Nighty night…
7 Feb 2011, 22:26 pm
@carol(carol)-327: Cheers Carol. Happy Vejazzling.
7 Feb 2011, 22:29 pm
Katters
I did indeed have a passion gap.
I have since had it filled to fulfill my contractual obligations to Pick n Pay.
7 Feb 2011, 22:33 pm
Clearly you are going to have to fly the bald eagle before you even consider letting loose with the vejazzler?
7 Feb 2011, 22:33 pm
@gunther(gunther)-332:
I hope you have no ambitions of working at the bakery counter again…
7 Feb 2011, 22:34 pm
@carol(carol)-327:
You most certainly have, young lady!
Guess my opening line around the watercooler with the girls at work tomorrow?
7 Feb 2011, 22:34 pm
@gunther(gunther)-329: I played Kleinmond once with a friend, and neither of us knew the layout. So we finish on a green and finally, after walking around for a good few minutes, find the next tee box. It’s a shortish par 3 – about 140m. But some idiot has built a fcking house almost level with the green and about 20 degrees to the left (which is not a huge margin for directional error, if you’ve seen my game). So we both send up a little prayer and tee off, neither hitting particularly good shots, but miraculously missing windows and other sensitive stuff. As we’re about to leave the tee box, something tells me to look around. And lo and behold, roughly 140m in the opposite direction, is another green. Wide open, apart from a few bunkers. Needless to say, we called mulligans and never mentioned the other shots.
7 Feb 2011, 22:35 pm
@gunther(gunther)-333: What? You’ve never heard of a “diamond in the rough”?
7 Feb 2011, 22:39 pm
Katman
Did you go and fetch you balls?
Or did you make a tactical retreat?
I am a stormer
I would keep any arts and craft that you have been doing on your main chap on the down low.
At least until you have sussed the lie of the land.
7 Feb 2011, 22:41 pm
@I am a stormer(I am a stormer)-335:
Morning ladies. Would you like to see my vajazzle?
7 Feb 2011, 22:42 pm
@gunther(gunther)-338: We made like good retreating French infantrymen, and left them behind.
This was a day on which I hit about 7 balls away, and my friend just about doubled that, So 2 more pond Top Flites weren’t going to break the bank.
7 Feb 2011, 22:42 pm
Katman
More like a cats eye.
7 Feb 2011, 22:44 pm
@gunther(gunther)-338:
You have to have pretty eccentric workmates.
Sharing is caring.
7 Feb 2011, 22:45 pm
Speaking of vejazzle… Search Youtube for the Audi Superbowl ad for 2011. There are two teasers (part 1 and part 2 – watch these first) and then a 60 second commercial for the new A8. Kenny G features, and proceeds to mock his vejazzle style of muzak silly. Very funny.
7 Feb 2011, 22:47 pm
Jockbock
I have been exiled to cold storage as punishment for chasing Mrs Rosenberg through the Kosher Deli waving my pork sword around.
7 Feb 2011, 22:49 pm
@JockBok(JockBok)-339:
Love to see the look on their faces.
Fortunately, they’re all broad minded.
Well, most of them.
7 Feb 2011, 22:53 pm
Well from Alsations to Labial Adornment I think we have covered every gambit of life’s rich menu.
With that I shall make like a Rhinestone Cowboy and a gallop off into the glittering sunset.
7 Feb 2011, 23:04 pm
@gunther(gunther)-346:
All that glitters is not Goldberg.
Rosenberg perhaps, but only if you change your pork to macon…
7 Feb 2011, 23:08 pm
@I am a stormer(I am a stormer)-345:
It’s the ‘innocent’ ones you need to look out for. They’ve probably got more pant bling than Mr T.
7 Feb 2011, 23:14 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-343:
“If anyone calls me Kenny Z, I’ll fck ‘em up.” hahaha
7 Feb 2011, 23:16 pm
@I am a stormer(I am a stormer)-349: Hilarious. And although he makes truly superkakka muzak, he does seem to have a sense of humour about it.
7 Feb 2011, 23:18 pm
@gunther(gunther)-346: @JockBok(JockBok)-348: @>^..^< katman(katman)-343:
Cheers guys. Been fun. Speak tom.
7 Feb 2011, 23:23 pm
I see Cardinelli is seeking validation for his opinion piece on what a rip-off the warm up games were (even though he attended them for free) by posting a poll on the subject.
Pray tell, John, who will pay the security staff, the ticket checkers, the ground staff, the traffic department and a host of other hard costs in your version? Even it only 5000 pitch, many of those costs are a given. So yes, we’d all like to waltz in and out for free, but the real world (the one I live in) doesn’t always work out like that.
R30 or R40 was a bargain in rugby terms (why where the Stormers games R10 more than the Sharks Lions game?), and you didn’t even pay that.
7 Feb 2011, 23:43 pm
this was a fun thread tonight.
no stilted, boring interference from et.
well done roy.
that low life capo tried to make an entrance but was duly ignored so snuck off to visit his dealer again.
just shows, keep the riff-raff out, and the real bloggers can enjoy some intelligent exchanges.
like it used to be.
8 Feb 2011, 06:19 am
@charo(charo)-353:
Amen!
8 Feb 2011, 08:08 am
Thanks to the recent floods the Government got to keep its promise of
having running water in every shack by 2011!
8 Feb 2011, 08:15 am
@charo(charo)-353: you such a hypocrite Charo….fark me you 1 judgemental wan ker of note
8 Feb 2011, 08:16 am
@grant10(grant10)-356: Couldn’t you stay away a bit longer?
8 Feb 2011, 08:18 am
i agree with Charo … ET is a disgrace for mankind!
8 Feb 2011, 08:22 am
Soooo McCaw out for 6 weeks.
8 Feb 2011, 08:23 am
the KKK allowed to stay here and spread their poison without any bannings….
yet others are banned?
Same old same old…..
despicable Roy!
8 Feb 2011, 08:23 am
now to get rid of skop & rossoneri = racists!
8 Feb 2011, 08:30 am
ET got banned?
Why?
8 Feb 2011, 08:34 am
@grant10(grant10)-360:
At this time of the morning in the fair Cape… shouldn’t you be busy gargling JustBuggerie’s balls?
8 Feb 2011, 08:35 am
@Boo_Habana(suffer_guy)-361: fark you….you racist cnut
8 Feb 2011, 08:35 am
@bryce_in_oz(bryce_in_oz)-363: cowardly uitlander..
8 Feb 2011, 08:38 am
360. grant10(grant10) :
February 8th, 2011 at 8:23 am
the KKK allowed to stay here and spread their poison without any bannings….
yet others are banned?
Same old same old…..
SAME OLD SAME OLD??????
grant10.. dude its been 20 years!!!
Get with the times outoppie!!! if you don’t like it here then take a hike… ET is a racist with skopand rosseneri, we don’t need them here… go on grant no one will miss you!
8 Feb 2011, 08:38 am
@grant10(grant10)-365:
Speak English and preferably not with your mouth full…
8 Feb 2011, 08:39 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-362: i’m not sure if he is banned…i presume it would only be for his vitriol towards wptid the ‘immoral reservist’
8 Feb 2011, 08:42 am
Feeling the love this morning……
Did ET get banned?
8 Feb 2011, 08:44 am
@Boo_Habana(suffer_guy)-366: i must walk and allow racist scum like you to get away with your poison?
Screw you you KKK rubbish.
8 Feb 2011, 08:46 am
work to do….but Roy you need to catch a fat wake up…..if ET is banned its a disgrace….KKK henchmen run free here spreading there racist poison on a daily basis but ET gets the bullet? Damn disgrace i tell you Roy.
8 Feb 2011, 08:48 am
grant f you! i left the KKK 2 months ago! i’ve been clean for 2 months okay?? hahaha farking d00s! just listen to yourself ouballie!
8 Feb 2011, 08:56 am
Seems I missed all the fun…
8 Feb 2011, 09:03 am
@grant10(grant10)-371:
what was racist about the thread last night?
there was no talk about “non-blacks” – et
no talk about mandela ******** up by not “killing all the whites” – capo
and you call me a hypocrite????
8 Feb 2011, 09:07 am
No ubhuntu in ikhasi this morning
8 Feb 2011, 09:08 am
@gunther(gunther)-375:
8 Feb 2011, 09:09 am
@Boo_Habana(suffer_guy)-366:
How am I a racist? Please explain yourself. Or are you just spreading the hate on this early Tuesday morning randomly.
8 Feb 2011, 09:09 am
@Boo_Habana(suffer_guy)-372: Phone Cheeky. He’ll get it sorted.
@ Boo: Ross in not a racist. You just dont have the intellect to understand what she’s saying most of the time!
Good morning every1!
8 Feb 2011, 09:10 am
@grant10(grant10)-371: If ET got banned its probably coz somebody lodged a complaint (looking at Dawn).
If you dont like the likes of Boo_Habana around, maybe you should do the same and await the verdict from Roy before calling him a disgrace?
8 Feb 2011, 09:10 am
@gunther(gunther)-375: Serias! And I am in such a good mood. Maybe I ought to give the blog a skip today.
8 Feb 2011, 09:13 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-379: Hey, Roy also chooses sides. Don’t be so hasty to defend.
8 Feb 2011, 09:17 am
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-381: lol. Not defending, just trying to follow due process before it ends up in a free for all.
Personally Im not big on bannings, whether I agree with someone or not.
Freedom of expression and all.
8 Feb 2011, 09:18 am
“You’re a racist, no you’re a racist, no you’re a racist”
Grow up you bunch of losers.
I’m a placist, I hate all people from the Republic of Cape Town, who support the Stormers!!
8 Feb 2011, 09:21 am
@Ratel Brussow(Morne Steyn is under-rated)-383: Typical Sharks supporter….
8 Feb 2011, 09:26 am
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-384: That’s a very placist comment.
8 Feb 2011, 09:28 am
@Ratel Brussow(Morne Steyn is under-rated)-383:
You are confusing hate with jealousy !!
8 Feb 2011, 09:29 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-382: Amen to that, but some people do go too far.
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-384: Very true.
8 Feb 2011, 09:30 am
@gunther(gunther)-375: drop the h’s and you’ll be on point
everyone calm the f*ck down, for a every action there’s an equal reaction, thus for a every capo there’s a boo_habana, for every shaun langenhoven there’s a exkreni-wp, for every ET there’s a heavens game etc.
someone else can come out and say, nice thread last night, not kiwi bashing, no taunts about smelly prawns, “cape spanish”, papsak, dishonest xhosas, quotas or people’s spouses.
8 Feb 2011, 09:31 am
Nice. We’ve balanced the blog back to light hearted banter. Good work guys.
8 Feb 2011, 09:31 am
@justrugby(justrugby)-386: People often hate what they can’t have..
8 Feb 2011, 09:31 am
@justrugby(justrugby)-386: Ya that’s right, I’m jealous of all the Space you have in your trophy cabinet!!!
8 Feb 2011, 09:34 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-388: Shhhhhhh! Don’t say his name! If you say his name 3 times he appears like magic. And then my day is farked.
8 Feb 2011, 09:35 am
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-390: By that logic, I guess you hate the Currie Cup?
8 Feb 2011, 09:36 am
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-392: Heavens Game, Heavens Game, Heavens Game?
8 Feb 2011, 09:38 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-388: I always wondered.
Cape Spanish? Whats the origin?
8 Feb 2011, 09:41 am
@Ratel Brussow(Morne Steyn is under-rated)-394: hey ratel, i see you’re back from the “wilderness” *said in a nacho libre voice*
8 Feb 2011, 09:41 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-388:
thanks man.
I wasn’t going to go with the h’s originally but when I wrote it they just seemed more authentic
People of Keo.
This banning is not the way forward.
for every Boo habana and Tomato Chilliboy there is a Capo or a Shaun Piepiejoller.
If you don’t like what they are saying the best thing is to just ignore them. They get bored VERY quickly because, like children, they have short attention spans.
But this my racist is racister than you racist is bullshit and frankly quite boring.
8 Feb 2011, 09:42 am
@Ratel Brussow(Morne Steyn is under-rated)-394: No. Not everything is about Sharks and their supporters here. I was making a joke about Shaun. Everytime someone talks about him he seems to appear as if he’s got some alert wired into Keo.
HG doesn’t bother me one bit.
As for the currie cup, we’ve had that one a few times already. More than anyone else.
8 Feb 2011, 09:43 am
I must say Bryan Habanna is looking remarkably slow this season. JLP almost caught him. In 2007 he was just unbelievably fast and dangerous, made things happen every time he touched the ball. Its sad, but I think he’s over-bulked and lost his speed. With that his confidence and he now just can’t seem to do anything right. He’s kak.
8 Feb 2011, 09:43 am
@charo(charo)-374:
grantie is the most judgmental person here.
it’s very emboerissing.
8 Feb 2011, 09:43 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-395:
Spain
8 Feb 2011, 09:44 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-395: i have no idea, it’s one of Gunther’s inventions, i asked him why not Cape Greek, Cape Portuguese and i never got a straight answer.
8 Feb 2011, 09:45 am
@gunther(gunther)-401:
8 Feb 2011, 09:47 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-402: Yep, I knew I wouldnt get a straight answer from him, that’s why I never bothered asking him.
Maybe itz coz of the sporting prowess of the Spanish people? Nadal, SWC champs, etc.
Maybe he’s just saying we are very gifted sportsmen?
8 Feb 2011, 09:47 am
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-398: Oh ya back in the good old days of apartheid, when WP and Bull rugby were funded by the government! Finding life harder in a free and fair South Africa?
Oops getting a bit political again!
@Transformation(Transformation)-396: Its been a lonf off-season. Can I just say Mvovo is awesome, I wouldn’t swap him for Habanna.
8 Feb 2011, 09:48 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-402:
I’m not coloured.
I’m Spanish.
8 Feb 2011, 09:49 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-396: To which Ratel must reply….”How did you find me? Here…in the wilderness” ….(said in Nacho Libre voice).
Incarnasio! Incarnasio!
8 Feb 2011, 09:52 am
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-407:
Lilly
how can you be so happy when ritchies foot is broken?
8 Feb 2011, 09:53 am
I remember working with Transformation … the boss once asked him : Sipho, hoe kry jy dit reg om so baie dinge in 1 dag op te f0k?? so Transformation replies … eish baas, ek staan vroeg op in die oggend!
8 Feb 2011, 09:54 am
@gunther(gunther)-400: no ways, charo himself takes that crown.
8 Feb 2011, 09:55 am
@gunther(gunther)-406: i realise
8 Feb 2011, 09:56 am
I heard, that despite the recent financial problems, Hellen Zille is still pushing for Cape Town to adopt the Euro.
8 Feb 2011, 09:57 am
@Boo_Habana(suffer_guy)-409: if you’re going to mock me, do it in a languege i care to understand
8 Feb 2011, 09:58 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-413: language..
8 Feb 2011, 09:59 am
@Boo_Habana(suffer_guy)-409: When comparing the writing skills of Transie’s with yours it becomes abundantly clear that you were the janitor leaning on his mop in the corner, tasting the dirty water in the bucket while dining on your own mucus.
8 Feb 2011, 09:59 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-410:
hahahaha….
says the bloke who denigrates ghanaians..
look in the “mirrow”
8 Feb 2011, 10:02 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-413: What!? Afrikaans is the gateway language to the world!
8 Feb 2011, 10:05 am
@charo(charo)-416:
granties famous mirrow.
mirrow mirrow on the wall
who’s the biggest racist of them all?
8 Feb 2011, 10:07 am
@charo(charo)-416: YOU denigrate them but you don’t even see it! hahaha they’re placid and respectful aren’t they and very much to your liking because they know their place? unlike the tjatjarag amaXhosa
you better stay there ou toppie!
8 Feb 2011, 10:08 am
@charo(charo)-416: no “mirrows” needed here
8 Feb 2011, 10:09 am
@Ratel Brussow(Morne Steyn is under-rated)-417: ja, a gateway to a laager…
8 Feb 2011, 10:14 am
Well I’m out of here. It seems things are going downhill quickly.
Transie, it was funny when you mocked Boo-habanna with a clever (all be it – his level) comeback, but what are going on about Ghanians for? I’ve heard it is a wonderful country to visit (a rarity in West Africa), how much do you even know about them?
Anyway, I’m out of here before I make more culturally derogatory statements.
Can’t wait for some rugby blogging.
8 Feb 2011, 10:15 am
@gunther(gunther)-408: Because Ritchie was going to take a break this month anyway, and the longer rest may be exactly what he needs. And like he said, it’s not too serious. He’ll be fine G. Just fine.
@Boo_Habana(suffer_guy)-409: You just have no redeeming qualities whatsoever. Hey? The cliche personified. Boo. Trans is so far above you intellectually your attempts at 409 are the equivalent of a quiet **** in the wind boytjie.
8 Feb 2011, 10:16 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-421:
I could do with a nice cold laager.
Es muy húmedo aquí en el cabo…
mis bolas son muy sudada
8 Feb 2011, 10:17 am
Cheers folks and remember, that whilst a vote for the ANC may get you into heaven, a vote for the DA will get you a penthouse in Camps Bay and there are no poor people in Camps Bay!
8 Feb 2011, 10:18 am
@Ratel Brussow(Morne Steyn is under-rated)-422: how much do i know about Ghanaians? hahahahaha let’s just say some of my best friends are Ghanaian!
8 Feb 2011, 10:19 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-419:
ooooh transie!!!!
just because these guys are more impressive specimens physically, intellectually and morally than most on the continent……
you have to get all hissey about it?
stop beating yourself up.
8 Feb 2011, 10:19 am
Lol, the speedo struggle continues!
8 Feb 2011, 10:21 am
@gunther(gunther)-424: espana?
8 Feb 2011, 10:21 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-419: You were right about what you posted about Charo the other day. I see it more and more in his posts. Comes off as a nice quiet chap, but is actually just a condescending piece of ****.
8 Feb 2011, 10:22 am
@Ratel Brussow(Morne Steyn is under-rated)-425:
classic
8 Feb 2011, 10:24 am
@charo(charo)-427: You don;t know Trans, this is actually funny. Considering who some of his best mates are.
8 Feb 2011, 10:25 am
this is Bad News for Capo, Boo Habana and their Entourages
Court bans man with low IQ from having ***
The 41 year-old had been in a relationship with a man whom he lived with and told officials “it would make me feel happy” for it to continue.
But his local council decided his “vigorous *** drive” was inappropriate and that with an IQ of 48 and a “moderate” learning disability, he did not understand what he was doing.
A psychiatrist involved in the case even tried to prevent the man being given *** education, on the grounds that it would leave him “confused”.
Mr Justice Mostyn said the case was “legally, intellectually and morally” complex as *** is “one of the most basic human functions” and the court must “tread especially carefully” when the state tries to curtail it.
But he agreed that the man, known only as Alan, should not be allowed to have *** with anyone on the grounds that he did not have the mental capacity to understand the health risks associated with his actions.
Under the judge’s order, the man is now subject to “close supervision” by the local authority that provides his accommodation, in order to ensure he does not break the highly unusual order.
The judge concluded: “I therefore make a declaration that at the present time Alan does not have the capacity to consent to and engage in sexual relations.
“In such circumstances it is agreed that the present régime for Alan’s supervision and for the prevention of future sexual activity is in his best interests.”
It is the latest controversial case to come before the Court of Protection, a little-known authority whose proceedings are held behind closed doors.
Under the Mental Capacity Act 2005, its judges have the power to make life or death decisions for people deemed to lack the intelligence to make them for themselves – such as ordering that they undergo surgery, have forced abortions, have life-support switched off or be forced to use contraception.
In the latest case, the man known as Alan was described as “sociable” and “presented as an able man” but who was “seriously challenged in all aspects of his mental functionality”.
He lived in a home provided by the council, where he developed a sexual relationship with a man called Kieron by the court. Alan was also accused of making lewd gestures at children in a dentists’ surgery and on a bus, although no police action was taken.
In June 2009 the town hall began court proceedings to restrict his contact with Kieron on the grounds that he lacked mental capacity, and an interim order was made to that effect.
“Since then Alan has been subjected to close supervision to prevent any further sexual activity on his part,” except when he is alone in his bedroom.
However he told representatives of the Official Solicitor, who acts in the Court of Protection, to tell the judge “I want to kiss them again”.
Mr Justice Mostyn highlighted the fact that the court cannot prevent people from merely making “unwise” decisions, and that a simple test can be carried out to see if a person is capable of consenting to *** based on the act itself rather than the proposed partner.
The judge said it requires an understanding and awareness of the “mechanics of the act”, “that there are health risks involved” and that *** between a man and a woman may lead to pregnancy.
He said that the psychiatrist thought Alan “believed that babies were delivered by a stork or found under a bush”, and that “*** could give you spots or measles”.
On that basis the judge ruled that Alan did not have the capacity to consent to ***, but also ordered that the council should provide him with *** education “in the hope that he thereby gains that capacity”.
8 Feb 2011, 10:26 am
Which racist scumbag are we going to vilify next? Oh no…
… better watch out… Bossy-Rossi and Tranny have chosen their next victim 
8 Feb 2011, 10:26 am
@gunther(gunther)-418: There is nothing wrong with Grant and you know it. You’re way smarter than the Heavensgames and Charo’s of the world G.
8 Feb 2011, 10:28 am
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-434: Are you commenting as a blogger, or are you doing a Teddy Atlas as a boxing match? Commenting on the other people actually participating on the blog, or are you send by the RT crew to piss on my lovely day?
Oh and G, you are lightyears smarter than this f8ck face Spooner.
8 Feb 2011, 10:29 am
how does it go?
oh yes…
work to do
outta here
8 Feb 2011, 10:29 am
@charo(charo)-427: hahaha hissy? you’ve got it wrong old man, i have nothing but admiration for the likes of kwame nkrumah – the father of pan africanism! kofi annan, kwame kwesi armah – one of my favourite authors – 2000 seasons, etc. and like i told you before having interacted with ghanaians here in SA all my life i got to learn about their country – remember i told of a friend of mine who hails from wineba(sp)?
the fact that you choose to twist your subtle condescension towards them to “transie dislikes ghanaians” betrays everything i’ve suspected about you.
snivelling swine
8 Feb 2011, 10:30 am
@Ratel Brussow(Morne Steyn is under-rated)-422:
I’m betting any whitey can walk around Ghana and not be shot in the face for your takkies…..and Ghana is nowhere near as modern a country as South Africa…
8 Feb 2011, 10:31 am
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-436:bwahaha Bossi, where do you get that I’m part of the “RT crew”? Bwahaha assumptions are the mother of all Rossi’s!
You’re soooo predictable.
8 Feb 2011, 10:31 am
@charo(charo)-437:
Have a nice day a$$hole.
8 Feb 2011, 10:34 am
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-440: Please don’t lie. We both know how far up certain arses you were creeping in the bad ol days on this blog. You will always be someone elses toilet paper, but that is your tragedy.
8 Feb 2011, 10:35 am
I’m betting any whitey can walk around Ghana and not be shot in the face for your takkies…..and Ghana is nowhere near as modern a country as South Africa…
true … ghana ppl can’t afford guns … they’ll rape and lem you!
8 Feb 2011, 10:37 am
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-442: bwahahaha and we will always remember the vile racist miscreant anti social Hater and Lilith, no matter how much you try airbrush those leopard spots
8 Feb 2011, 10:37 am
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-435:
lilly your pals don’t have to be my pals.
grantie is as sanctimonious and judgemental as it gets on keo.
and you sould know that Gunther has no crew.
he rides alone
8 Feb 2011, 10:39 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-429:
si espana!
8 Feb 2011, 10:45 am
@gunther(gunther)-445: You old romantic you.
8 Feb 2011, 10:50 am
@gunther(gunther)-445: No no Gunther, you have it wrong… if you are not in Bossi-Rossi’s crew then you are on the side of evil racism. You will apparently be given honorary status of the “RT crew”. Better change your tune while you still can or else face the tar brush will come out!
8 Feb 2011, 10:50 am
@gunther(gunther)-446: es un poco pronto para estar pensando en alcohol
8 Feb 2011, 10:51 am
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-448: lame…
8 Feb 2011, 10:51 am
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-447:
molinos de viento? cargo
8 Feb 2011, 10:52 am
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-432:
xhosakid id ghanaian?
@Transformation(Transformation)-438: kwame nkrumah is no hero here – up your game.
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-441:
love your elegant, feminine style.
must have had a classy upbringing.
outta here finally.
8)
8 Feb 2011, 10:56 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-449:
la cerveza no es alcohol.
más como la comida
8 Feb 2011, 10:57 am
@charo(charo)-452: i never said he is a hero in ghana! i said i admire him ie his theories on “pan africanism”…stop twisting sh*t!
8 Feb 2011, 10:57 am
“Bryan Habana needs creative players around him if he’s to start scoring tries at Test level again”
Oh so De Jonge, Fourie, Aplon don’t count. Lets face it, Habanna needs to go on a speed programme and ease off the Gym work.
8 Feb 2011, 10:58 am
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-444: And right there he goes and does exactly what instructed to do. Everytime your and I are here, you post the same thing? Just following orders, or trying to get a posse going?
I keep telling you Spooner. The bad ol days, and your crew from RT are no longer here. No KKK lynch mob to call huh? Either you come up with fresh posts, cause your ol school groove ain’t kicking it!
But keep trying, I’m actually enjoying watching you try SOOOOO HARD!
8 Feb 2011, 10:59 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-454: Who cares! Can we start talking some rugby already, this political stuff I can read about from more traceable sources.
8 Feb 2011, 11:00 am
@charo(charo)-452: My upbring is better than yours. Something turned you into the arse you are. One day you’ll break down in tears and tell us all about it. Until that day. CHOOSE A FINGER.
8 Feb 2011, 11:02 am
@gunther(gunther)-433: That must be very distressing news for Capo, boo habana, and ET. I wonder whether it applies to relationships with others only, or between themselves too. But even more worrying is this new Malawian legislation outlawing flatulence. Whether you’re a “loop’n’poeper” or a “poep’n’loper”, you could face some serious sanction in Blantyre and Lilongwe for your gaseous indiscretions. If this were every introduced here, the aforementioned three would literally have nothing left to do.
8 Feb 2011, 11:03 am
Picks for the S15 Semi-final:
Winner of Aus – Tahs
NZ – Saders
SA – Sharks
Best runner-up: Bulls/Blues/Stormers
8 Feb 2011, 11:05 am
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-456: I know if I keep plugging away with it you will soon EXPLODE with racist bile in an uncontrollable (childish) rage like you used to in the not so old days… I know it’s still there, bubbling just under the surface…. your temperature gauge is rising as we speak, huh Hater? You don’t fool us with your recent alias semi-sweet talk… I know just which buttons I need to push to reveal your insecurities, spotted leopard
Bwhahaha! It’s coming, like a volcaaaaaaaano!
8 Feb 2011, 11:05 am
@gunther(gunther)-445:
Thank God. Cos some of your pals are dodgy
8 Feb 2011, 11:06 am
If ET has been banned, I’m sorry for him, but maybe everyone else should take a second to think that racism is a two way street and revisit their own contributions. The recently raised and unchallenged comment about racism only applying to whites seems to be the thinking around here. The lack of criticism from some quarters here was deafening. Capo went on to write even more vile hate speech, unchallenged again but those who would hijack a thread about about vajazzles, and turn it into a KKK meeting. Pathetic!
Hardly surprising when the same peoples MO is to call anyone who doesn’t agree with them , a racist. But these claims are as baseless and desperate as Shabir Shabir shake being told to move his car outside of court, and subsequently calling the policeman a racist.
So it’s good to see a bit of equilibrium around here where the baseless accusations are actually being challenged. Where hypocrits have previously run free they are now being brought to task for the glaring inconsistencies in their own prejudiced writing.
Of course the old RT chestnut still raises it’s head, mainly because the focus must shift away from truth to fiction when you have nothing concrete to base your accusations on.
Maybe it’s a bout time we all stepped back for a bit of reflection on our own contributions.
8 Feb 2011, 11:07 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-459:
I believe they are allowed to practice by themselves.
as long as they dispose of the evidence in hermetically sealed bags.
I am told that if you sit on your hand until you are numb…
it feels like somebody else is doing it
8 Feb 2011, 11:07 am
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-461: You’re just stupid. News flash. I won. It’s over.
8 Feb 2011, 11:09 am
@gunther(gunther)-464: Or try left arm over the wicket for a change.
8 Feb 2011, 11:11 am
@gunther(gunther)-453: bien entonces que aproveche
8 Feb 2011, 11:12 am
Anyway, I don’t quite understand how this thread went from Grantie verjazzling an Alsatian on the Clifton steps last night to this schoolyard brawl.
8 Feb 2011, 11:14 am
@Ratel Brussow(Morne Steyn is under-rated)-457:
when was the last time you saw your mates charo & wooden spoon talking rugby on this blog?, yet you want to lose it with me? get off it! “scroll on by”!
8 Feb 2011, 11:16 am
@JockBok(JockBok)-463:
We can look at OUR OWN contributions Jock, and be judged by them, NOT BY THE CONTRIBUTIONS MADE BY OTHERS! ONLY OUR OWN. Keep that in mind when you pull out your paint brush.
8 Feb 2011, 11:19 am
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-465: What did you win sweetie-pie? A prize for being the biggest imbecile? For having the biggest chip on your shoulder? For being the saddest victim?
Now, in the immortal words, “I’m outta here”. I shall leave you to continue to make a huge T I T of yourself. Keep on exposing those racial insecurities on a public forum, it’s amusing to watch
8 Feb 2011, 11:20 am
Oh transie, you should know every action has a reaction….
8 Feb 2011, 11:21 am
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-471: I know you gotta run and report back. Have a good day Spooner.
8 Feb 2011, 11:22 am
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-472: tell your friend ratel that…
8 Feb 2011, 11:26 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-469: They not my “mates”. I appealed to you because I thought you could rise above it.
“Lose it”? Buddy what world do you live in?
I don’t know much about Ghana, I didn’t understand why you said they “knew their place”, I realise it was probably a historical thread reference. I don’t really care about all that. I would like to know more about the country as friends who have traveled there say it is great and has the highest percentage of conserved land anywhere in the world. However I’m not interested in being ‘informed’ about the country from a rugby thread. Sorry if that offends you.
Now does anybody actually care about rugby?
8 Feb 2011, 11:30 am
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-470:
That’s what I’m saying. You contributions are all about the KKK and RT today. Did you ever stop to think that maybe your paint brush is tarring me?
I happen to like the guys I know from RT, but your reaction to this in the past is tainted by your own predujices. In other words your opinion is not shared by me. But you float it around Keo like you’ve chased off the evil men from RT and their not being here is better for everyone.
Well it might be for you, but it’s not for me. No-one died and made you Queen of keo cyberspace. You don’t talk for me.
8 Feb 2011, 11:37 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-466:
I think that is banned as well.
It creates too much rough for the batsmen.
8 Feb 2011, 11:39 am
I see it’s the ‘hottie with many nics and her chief lackey’ show… oh well… no rugby blogging going on here then time to move along!
8 Feb 2011, 11:41 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-467:
Nací tratando de tomar ventaja.
Al igual que mis compañeros de Lavender Hill.
8 Feb 2011, 11:44 am
@Ratel Brussow(Morne Steyn is under-rated)-475: okay Ratel…you don’t understanda the context of charo’s jibe and my response to it. he is the one who is always making comments about ghanaian natives being more superior morally than black south africans, and that boasting how thet curtsy around him. you don’t know the background to this whole thing.
he’s outta here for now, so let’s talk rugby
8 Feb 2011, 11:45 am
@JockBok(JockBok)-476: WHERE WERE YOU WHEN SPOONER POSTED THIS:
444. wooden spoon(wooden spoon) :
February 8th, 2011 at 10:37 am
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-442: bwahahaha and we will always remember the vile racist miscreant anti social Hater and Lilith, no matter how much you try airbrush those leopard spots”
Fark off then Jock. My posts are in response to being attacked by your chommie Spooner, NOT DIRECTED TO YOU! but you can’t see that. Your problem! And if you miss the RT crew, then go and join them.
No one died. They just ran away. So stop b1tching about it. I don’t hold you responsible for Spooners filth, I just expect that you stay out of it. AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS TALK ONLY TALK FOR ME! So don’t go brushing me with Capo paint. Practise what you preach old man.
8 Feb 2011, 11:46 am
@gunther(gunther)-479: Usted es el uso de una lengua extranjera no me impresiona. Un chimpancé entrenado puede traducir mierda en Internet.
8 Feb 2011, 11:46 am
@bryce_in_oz(bryce_in_oz)-478: go bryce, don’t let the door hit you
8 Feb 2011, 11:49 am
@gunther(gunther)-451: me no hablo….
Only woodstock Spanish.
Cargo Pant?
8 Feb 2011, 11:51 am
@gunther(gunther)-479: donde es lavender hill?
8 Feb 2011, 11:51 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-480: @gunther(gunther)-479: Habanna debe a su velocidad si va a ser de alguna utilidad en la Copa del Mundo. La confianza cerebro seguirá recogiendo él, aunque Mvovo y Basson están jugando mucho mejor de rugby, por lo que le permite poner en un programa de velocidad y lo llevan a cabo el gimnasio.
8 Feb 2011, 11:55 am
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-484: @Transformation(Transformation)-485: @gunther(gunther)-479: ???? ???? ???? ?????? ?? ?? ????? ??? ??? ?? ???? ???. ?? ???? ????? ???? ????? ?? ????? ??? ???? ???.
8 Feb 2011, 11:57 am
@Ratel Brussow(Morne Steyn is under-rated)-487: What Keo doesn’t do Hindi!? Let me try phonetically: D?kh? mujh? aj?ba bh???’?? k? ?ka kisma m?? b?ta kara sakat? hai?. Aba ham?? gambh?ra h?n? c?hi’? aura ragb? b?ta karat? hai?.
8 Feb 2011, 11:58 am
@Ratel Brussow(Morne Steyn is under-rated)-488: Better, now lets talk rugby, in English!
8 Feb 2011, 11:58 am
@JockBok(JockBok)-476: good post. I agree entirely. Some people have got far too big for their boots here.
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-481: There you go with the victim mentality again. Needless to say, that post was in REACTION to your post:
442. rossoneri(rossoneri) :
February 8th, 2011 at 10:34 am
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-440: Please don’t lie. We both know how far up certain arses you were creeping in the bad ol days on this blog. You will always be someone elses toilet paper, but that is your tragedy.
So guess who aint such a shining example of decency after all
Please Hater, as I said, we all know what you are really about. Don’t pretend otherwise.
8 Feb 2011, 11:58 am
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-481:
I was being general in my first post, not really pointing fingers just commenting on how some people think they have dominion over this site. It was quite annoying to see how a thread about vajazzles had descended into racism accusations. As per usual.
But in my opinion, you contributed greatly to the demise of this thread. And you started this f.cking RT thing again, and joined in on the KKK sh.it
The way you gloat over this RT thing like it’s some sort of huge victory, and then seek to accuse everyone else you don’t like of being their chums is very annoying. Pathetic and annoying.
Why do you keep calling me old man? Is it not possible to have a post without a personal insult. Not that being an old man is an insult, just the way you use it and I’m not actually an old man.
8 Feb 2011, 11:59 am
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-484:
rayban?
barcelona shirt?
8 Feb 2011, 12:01 pm
@Ratel Brussow(Morne Steyn is under-rated)-486: i’m not quite sure what is wrong with habana – that’s if anything is wrong. Bjorn at the Cheetahs & Griquas played with more verve and freedom and seemd to be enjoying his rugby in contrast to bryan who seems to want to justify his “celebrity” status by doing domething incredible everytime he gets the ball instead of just doing the basics and then the rest will fall into place.
8 Feb 2011, 12:01 pm
@gunther(gunther)-492: collar up of course….
8 Feb 2011, 12:02 pm
@Ratel Brussow(Morne Steyn is under-rated)-487: It’s code. For non WP haters only.
8 Feb 2011, 12:06 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-485:
los vascos región del cabo
8 Feb 2011, 12:07 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-490:
That’s what bugs the beejeezus out of me. Like there is one right opinion and anyone who doesn’t agree is immediately classed as a racist, or in keo speak, a friend or spy of RT.
8 Feb 2011, 12:09 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-494:
steady now.
I rock the popped collar occasionally.
especially if I’m Ralphing the Lauren.
Habana is trying far too hard.
Back to basics for him.
(throw in a bit of rugby talk ((calm down lilly)) for Ratel)
8 Feb 2011, 12:13 pm
@JockBok(JockBok)-497:
it could be worse.
you could be unmasked as apartheid spies.
or the mysterious third force in rugby.
be thankful for what you have.
8 Feb 2011, 12:15 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-493: The thing is, his pace used to allow him to do something amazing every time he touched the ball. There’s no doubt he’s much slower than in 2007. He needs a specialised programme.
8 Feb 2011, 12:16 pm
@gunther(gunther)-498: do you play polo too?
8 Feb 2011, 12:17 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-490: I thought you were off reporting.
@JockBok(JockBok)-491: Like I said. I speak for me. If you and your friends like it so much at RT, I’m sure there is a buzzing thread of convo there you can join. Don’t take your frustrations out on me.
Have a good day. The chaps are asking you to stick to rugby. See if you can do that.
I’m off gents. Gotta run.
8 Feb 2011, 12:17 pm
@Ratel Brussow(Morne Steyn is under-rated)-486: Habs está más allá de su fecha de caducidad!
8 Feb 2011, 12:19 pm
@gunther(gunther)-499:
I couldn’t be an aparthied spy. I’ve been reminded on many occasions that I’m not South African. I’m a second class citizen.
Of course, as a foreigner, I’m just humble and thankful that I don’t have a shop that’s been burnt down.
8 Feb 2011, 12:20 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-501:
no a pesar de que tengo un pene del tamaño de un caballo de carreras.
8 Feb 2011, 12:23 pm
@JockBok(JockBok)-504:
stop acting like a victim
I can arrange for you to rent a shop and have it burnt down.
will that help you to fit in?
8 Feb 2011, 12:24 pm
@Tegejo(Tegejo)-503: Like Schalk?
Keep in squad, but not starting 15. I dunno, maybe some speed training can save him.
8 Feb 2011, 12:24 pm
@gunther(gunther)-498: I watched him off the ball on Saturday. It’s amazing how transparent his body language is. One fluffed pass and his shoulders slump, his hands hang next to his waist, no energy, all negativity.
I’d love to play poker against him. I’d take him for everything he has.
8 Feb 2011, 12:25 pm
@JockBok(JockBok)-491: this thread about pierced va_ginas turned pot after the post at #353, when it was hijacked by a condescending swine for his own purposes. which of the people who were here last night cared if ET was there or not when they were exploring the nuances of bedazzled punanis?
8 Feb 2011, 12:26 pm
@JockBok(JockBok)-504:
my advice….repent as you are going to hell because you do not support the anc even though you still have a shop that has not been burnt down.
basically, you are a complainer
8 Feb 2011, 12:27 pm
@gunther(gunther)-505: se te quejas o jactancia? La mayoría de los caballos de carreras son alimentados con esteroides, por lo que no puede ser tan grande ….
8 Feb 2011, 12:29 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-509: Does Rossoneri have a bedazzled punani?
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-508: One things for sure, that list of assets wouldn’t include pace anymore!
8 Feb 2011, 12:29 pm
@Ratel Brussow(Morne Steyn is under-rated)-507: I hope so! He does have the POTENTIAL to be the most destructive player in world rugby. Thats why WP opened their wallets. Now, its his time to repay the faith showed by WP admin.
8 Feb 2011, 12:30 pm
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-502:
Here we get to the crux of the matter.
Who are my ‘friends’and why would they or I need to be reminded we can go to RT if we want? And why by you?
I’m not stupid. I managed to get out of bed, clothe myself and get to work today so why would I need you or anyone else to tell me what options I have? Because you can bet your bottom dollar I will go and post where I want and when I want. so thanks for your concern, but it’s not needed. You can stop mentioning RT now.
Besides, I like it here.
Have a nice day.
8 Feb 2011, 12:32 pm
@Tegejo(Tegejo)-511:
Si eres estúpido?
Le dije que estaba colgado como un caballo de carreras.
Su traductor está roto.
pedir un reembolso.
8 Feb 2011, 12:33 pm
@gunther(gunther)-505: bien sólo su esposa sabría
8 Feb 2011, 12:33 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-509: ag bs man.
charo expressed an opinion and out came the kkk, racism and RT.
from the same sad lady who couldnt handle charo calling the nz birds ho tties
lets face it, you and rosso have made your minds up to attack anything charo says.
thats fine, its like grant10 and his smit obsession.
but it makes you look silly.
you know that right?
8 Feb 2011, 12:34 pm
@Ratel Brussow(Morne Steyn is under-rated)-512:
what are his times for 40m now compared to 2007?
8 Feb 2011, 12:34 pm
@Tegejo(Tegejo)-511: @Transformation(Transformation)-509: @gunther(gunther)-515: Gunter es una ****** con piedras preciosas.
8 Feb 2011, 12:36 pm
@Ratel Brussow(Morne Steyn is under-rated)-512: It’s hard to tell. He only caught the ball once and he did make about 40 meters, so who knows?
I think he needs to go back to that flashing lights thingy. Sort out his reaction timing.
8 Feb 2011, 12:37 pm
@gunther(gunther)-518: No idea.
8 Feb 2011, 12:38 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-520: But JLP almost caught him!!!
8 Feb 2011, 12:42 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-520:
sheryl.
8 Feb 2011, 12:42 pm
@Ratel Brussow(Morne Steyn is under-rated)-512: does your wife have one?
8 Feb 2011, 12:44 pm
@Ratel Brussow(Morne Steyn is under-rated)-521:
then how do you know how much pace he has or hasn’t lost?
8 Feb 2011, 12:45 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-517: have made our minds up? hahaha
assumptions, assumptions
8 Feb 2011, 12:45 pm
@gunther(gunther)-523: That’s her. Can’t understand why they stopped using her.
8 Feb 2011, 12:46 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-524: No, yours? I’m sure Rossi has got one, she’s put a little pin it, in sympathy for poor old Ritchie.
@gunther(gunther)-523: Does Sheryl have one? Maybe one that flashes and you have to be quick and flick it at the right times?
8 Feb 2011, 12:49 pm
@gunther(gunther)-525: Cause I can see it. Do you need a scale to tell that Ricky has picked up weight since 2007?
8 Feb 2011, 12:50 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-517: yes rangerman, good sweet old non-belligerent charo only “expresses and opinion, and when opinions are expressed about him and his opinion then he is being “attacked” hahahaha nice try.
this sounds like when the communists and unions would “express opinions” about mbeki and if he responds then he is “attacking” them, very silly
8 Feb 2011, 12:51 pm
I thought Ricky Bobby had the only spandex rugby jersey in the team..
8 Feb 2011, 12:52 pm
@Ratel Brussow(Morne Steyn is under-rated)-522: Yes, that’s true. Last year Duanne Vermeulen caught Mvovo in his socks, and I’m sure that 9 times out of 10 Mvovo will leave Duanne for dust.
What I’m trying to say really, is that until Brian gets enough ball to run regularly it’s hard to judge whether he lost pace or not (he may well have). The problem is really that he either gets a really bad pass (he got a few on Saturday), or he fumbles most of the rest.
To my mind that is the more urgent problem. Once his hands are sorted, we can really see what he’s (still) made of. Or not.
Fact is, WP have some killer youngsters at wing. Danie Poolman and JJ Engelbrecht for example. I met Danie after the match on Saturday and he’s quite tall. Bulky too. In my day at school they’d have made him a lock or 8th man.
8 Feb 2011, 12:54 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-527:
because jake used her.
and things are DIFFERENT now.
8 Feb 2011, 12:56 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-532: maybe the stormers need to play nick koster at wing again
hahahaha whose bright idea was that?
8 Feb 2011, 12:59 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-532: Okay dude, put your head in the ground. Habanna isn’t as fast as he used to be, how can he be, his biceps are the size of Jean Deysel’s.
And no, I don’t mean Vin.
8 Feb 2011, 13:02 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-534: Yes i remember that. I wonder what happened to Nick in general? Of all the hype that’s been made of him, not much has come of it. If you look at Elstadt for example who played on Saturday, I think that Koster may just be superflous to requirements at this stage.
Stormers loosies (in order of likely playing time):
Vermeulen
Burger
FLO
PLO
Elstadt
Wimpy?
?
8 Feb 2011, 13:03 pm
@Ratel Brussow(Morne Steyn is under-rated)-535: But Tacitus told us Hurdles will gain more speed as he bulks up, why can’t Habana?
8 Feb 2011, 13:06 pm
@Ratel Brussow(Morne Steyn is under-rated)-535: I was about 5 meters from him on Saturday, I didn’t think he’d bulked up at all, if anything for me he looks a bit smaller.
Head in the sand? what part of …..
“What I’m trying to say really, is that until Brian gets enough ball to run regularly it’s hard to judge whether he lost pace or not (he may well have). The problem is really that he either gets a really bad pass (he got a few on Saturday), or he fumbles most of the rest….”
..indicates a lack of realism?
I think you need to pull your head out of your a ss. That’s what I think.
8 Feb 2011, 13:23 pm
@gunther(gunther)-515: Es por eso que te preguntan si estás presumiendo o gimiendo …. El traductor está trabajando muy bien!
8 Feb 2011, 13:24 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-538: So the whole of 2010 wasn’t enough for you? You need to see him get more ball, before you are convinced? Smaller than in 2007? If he was still in Pretoria would you need more convincing?
@Transformation(Transformation)-537: I young man growing into his body may get bigger as well as faster, but a gymed up little man will always lose speed, unless they concentrate on explosive leg power.
Look at Aplon for goodness sake the guy when interviewed last year said he kept his speed, because he refused to bulk-up and lose his best asset.
8 Feb 2011, 14:31 pm
@Ratel Brussow(Morne Steyn is under-rated)-540: I dunno quite frankly. He dropped mostly all his passes in 2010 too.
This isn’t a WP thing. I’ve seen Bryan do some magic stuff for the boks and would love for him to do it again. I’m prepared to see if he can fix his hands, and then to judge him on performances with ball in hand. If he can;t fix his hands or if he isn’t good enough with ball in hand then he needs to be dropped. Simple as that for me.
8 Feb 2011, 14:56 pm
@JockBok(JockBok)-514: RT.
See, you can’t stop me.
8 Feb 2011, 15:00 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-541: If you were Brian’s coach, how would you help him get his mojo back.
Is it age, or just that he passed his sell by date. I remember watching the movie Million Dollar Baby, where Morgan Freeman mentioned something about each boxer knowing how many fights he has in him.
I looked at Joe Rokokoko last year, he has not been smokin Joe for a while now. Isn’t it just that Brian has reached that place in his career, like Herchel Gibbs, where the magic is gone.
8 Feb 2011, 15:09 pm
@Ratel Brussow(Morne Steyn is under-rated)-512: Do you staple gemstones to your ****?
8 Feb 2011, 15:12 pm
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-543: May be Ros. I just don’t throw players away that easily. He needs to go through some sort of process, that’s for sure though.
8 Feb 2011, 15:19 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-545: All I’m saying is that if there must be some programme put into place. Why hasn’t it happened already. What is AC and Rassie and the Bok coaches waiting for?
8 Feb 2011, 15:31 pm
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-546: I think that they were all just hoping that he’d get back into form. Which as we all know, he hasn’t.
Pity though. Devestating when on form.
8 Feb 2011, 18:50 pm
One of the most interesting things in this mag to me, was the Tweet made by Luke Watson. How “great” it was how Mike Vick has “bounced back and risen above all expectation”…!
For those of you who might not know, Mike Vick was busted for illegal dog-fighting and for killing dogs through drowning, hanging and other ways.
He apparently would take non-fighting dogs, and throw them in with his pit-bulls just for fun and to watch them get killed.
He then went bankrupt while he was serving his jail sentence.
True – in purely sport terms he has “bounced back” and is playing very well. However, what caused his downfall is not something like a sickness or injury – he was wilfully training, torturing and killing dogs!
I dont have all the facts in front of me, but the cops found something like 49 dogs on his premises, many with wounds from fighting and some had to be put down. Some had to be destroyed because of their aggression.
Mike Vick is an absolute monster for doing that, and (as many NFL fans and Americans believe) I reckon he shouldve been banned from NFL.
That Luke finds inspiration in his story says a lot to me about the person he is. He also seems to be using it as a parallel to his own self-made misfortune in SA rugby – which disappoints me even more!
And I am not one of those who hates Luke because of what he supposedly said, I have stuck up for him on this site. But that Tweet is in very poor taste!
8 Feb 2011, 18:51 pm
I remember saying that FDP would outshine Joost and not many agreed with me at that stage, when Fourie was about year 2 into his career.
Well, I think time has proved me right.
One more world cup, then we look again.
8 Feb 2011, 20:41 pm
@BringItHomeBoks(bokfan1)-548: uh oh, just wait till Gwantie-poo sees this one. He adores Luke.
8 Feb 2011, 21:41 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-550:
Where is old gwantie-poo?
His hero just barfed all over the Stormers jersey.
Not great style.
8 Feb 2011, 21:42 pm
@BringItHomeBoks(bokfan1)-548: Vick is a phenomenal athlete and talent in NFL who definitely hit a downer in his professional career. This downer was of his own doing as you rightly point out and certainly unsavoury.
The fact that his career was salvaged is due more to the Eagles getting lucky with taking a calculated punt on obtaining a QB at a bargain basement price (when no other team would touch him with a bargepole), rather than him redeeming himself through regret for his past actions, redress of his actions and becoming a better person.
The fact that Puke thinks this is one of those underdog “against-all odds” stories shows how stupidly airheaded this vacuous littleprick is.
8 Feb 2011, 21:55 pm
@BringItHomeBoks(bokfan1)-548: What a disgusting character. How someone like that is allowed back into pro sport is just astounding. And how Luke can admire him for anything he did after the way he treated those animals is very telling.
8 Feb 2011, 22:59 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-552:
Heavens Game, I’ve be forewarned about you. But I have to agree wholeheartedly with you. I’m glad to see another person that hasn’t been sucked into the Watson hype. He started singing SAs praises very shortly before his announced comeback. He serves himself. And his performances are as flacid as his personality. Only the dull witted keep falling for these myths.
8 Feb 2011, 22:59 pm
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-435: Fark off, you racist little hating tart… Trying so hard to be this enlightened self appointed judge of right and wrong… A gatekeeper for the “politically” correct things to do or say on Keo… Criticising the humour of others while churning out mad exaggerations and imaginings of “injustice”.
Instead, just showing your true “colours”… A Boksburg special trying to impress suitors Transformation and Xhosakid.
How totally appropriate…
8 Feb 2011, 23:02 pm
@Blitzbok(Blitzbok)-554: Forewarned is forearmed
I only respond, though…
Mostly tongue deep in my left cheek, other than for the fools here…
Decent rugby loving okes I treat decently though
Outtahere for now.
9 Feb 2011, 01:00 am
@BringItHomeBoks(bokfan1)-548: Absolute sick
Grant and Luke need some help
9 Feb 2011, 08:57 am
@BringItHomeBoks(bokfan1)-548: Hahahahahahahahahahha. You gotta be kidding me!
If Luke posted he likes the colour yellow, you’d find a bloody angle to crucify him on. If Luke posted that the player that was doing hard drugs and was banned for two years, running a coffee shop is doing well, you’s find an angle. If Luke said give Pedrie Wannenberg another chance, you’s find something to smear him about.
Your just plain pathetic.
9 Feb 2011, 08:58 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-555: There you go again, slandering people when they are not on the blog. You did it last Friday, and again last night. You do not know the facts, or the background, but in your hateful obsessed frenzy, couldn’t wait to put the knive in. Watch yourself.
9 Feb 2011, 09:03 am
@JL1(JL1)-557: Actually JL1, People with this hateful obsession with Luke, who by the way has apologized, for his part, is sick.
Have you lot lived your lives without making any mistakes? Luke is simply saying for a man like Vick who did wrong, to turn his life around is a great thing. Since when should that be scorned at.
I hope you lot get judged one day as harshly as you judge others and the ones you allegedly offend NEVER EVER give you a second chance.
9 Feb 2011, 09:09 am
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-560: How did Vick “turn his life around”? He was simply allowed to play again by a sporting code with no morals. He is still the same despicable monster that killed and tortured all those animals for his own sick and perverted entertainment. I assume you’re not really standing up for the bloke, but rather just being argumentative. At least I hope so. Vick deserves to live out his days in desperate poverty and shame, not as some second chance rock star.
9 Feb 2011, 09:13 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-561:
I’ve never heard of the bloke. Thankfully.
But I’d hazard a guess that if Luke is congratualting him on turning his life around, no doubt Gawd is somehow involved.
9 Feb 2011, 09:20 am
@JockBok(JockBok)-562: He’s sick. Like all dog fighting small-**** wankers. Sadly, plenty of them around Cape Town, out on the flats. Tough guys with prison tats and pitbulls. I pray that their dogs turn on them and that they meet a terrifying and drawn out end.
What Luke is doing admiring such a person only he would know. Just makes me like him even less.
9 Feb 2011, 09:29 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-561:
Read below.
February 09, 2011Vick wins Comeback Player award
By Associated Press ,
DALLAS (AP) — Michael Vick took a most unusual path to The Associated Press (News – Alert) 2010 NFL Comeback Player of the Year award he received Saturday night.
In the 12–year history of the honor, no player has returned from jail to earn it.
After missing two seasons serving a federal sentence for dogfighting, then spending most of the previous year as a seldom–used backup in Philadelphia, Vick was back at his best in 2010. Taking over as starter in Week 2 after Kevin Kolb sustained a concussion, Vick ran and passed the Eagles to the NFC East title and a 10–6 record.
He also displayed the kind of reformation away from the game that impressed a nationwide panel of 50 media members who regularly cover the league. Vick received 29? votes, easily beating Seattle receiver Mike Williams, who got eight.
“The most fun I’ve ever had playing football,” Vick said. “The guys. The organization I play for now. Coaches. Players. Just the way I live my life now. It’s just been great.
“As a person and a player I learned a lot through my experiences on and off the field. Don’t take anything granted anymore. Certainly, back then (in Atlanta), I was just playing and having fun. I’m doing the same thing now, but I understand the importance of it and how hard it is to get to where we are today. I’m just thankful for the opportunity.”
Coach Andy Reid, who dealt with family problems when two of his sons were arrested on drug charges, believed Vick could change around his life. Few of Vick’s supporters have been as staunchly behind him as Reid.
“He had a plan and he stuck to that, both on and off the field,” Reid said. “He knew certain things he wanted to get better at and he was open to the coaching on it, and he got himself back into shape. … So, he did a great job with the football part of it.
“And then he spends a tremendous amount of time in the public, in particular on his days off … speaking and doing the best he can to right the wrong. You can never erase that, but you can sure help change others from falling into that same problem.”
A star in Atlanta for most of his six seasons as a Falcon after being selected first overall in the 2001 draft, Vick missed 2007 and 2008 while incarcerated for 18 months in a federal prison. The Eagles signed him to a two–year contract worth 6.8 million; he once had a $130 million deal with the Falcons that was the NFL’s richest.
Philadelphia traded Donovan McNabb to Washington in April, believing Kolb would be the starter. He was — for one game. With Kolb sidelined, Vick was sensational.
He threw for five touchdowns overall in his first two starts, both wins, then damaged rib cartilage against Washington, forcing him out for 3? games. But Reid let him keep the job, and Vick was even more dynamic when he returned.
In a Monday nighter against the Redskins, Vick had a performance for the ages, throwing for four touchdowns and running for two in a 59–28 win.
He also threw for three scores and ran for one in a 38–31 victory at the Giants, a game in which the Eagles trailed by 21 points in the fourth quarter.
“Michael has great instincts. Michael’s got it all at this point,” Eagles offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg said. “Really, the most important quality, in my opinion, for a quarterback to have is gut instincts, then comes the decision–making and the timing and accuracy. Then comes the big arm and athleticism and those types of things. The gut instincts are critical for a quarterback, and you can see that.”
Not only did Vick make a remarkable turnaround on the field, but his image is improving away from the game. Last month, Vick signed his first paid endorsement contract since his release from prison, a two–year deal with Unequal Technologies, a provider of the football pads Vick wore most of this season.
“To sum it all up, the last five months, have been delayed gratification,” Vick said. “Things that I wanted to accomplish the last couple years that I couldn’t and I had to wait for it, and I had to be patient, and I did it and it all paid off. I just thank God for putting me with the right group of people, with Andy, with a flagship organization, a great group of coaches. … They give me all the credit, but I give them the credit.”
Also receiving votes were Minnesota linebacker E.J.Henderson (3?), New England receiver Wes Welker, Chicago linebacker Brian Urlacher and Kansas City quarterback Matt Cassel (2 each), and Pittsburgh safety Troy Polamalu, Seattle running back/kick ereturner Leon Washington, and Tampa Bay rookie running back LeGarrette Blount (one each).
Polamalu won the Defensive Player of the Year award earlier this week.
MY TAKE:
If prisons are not meant to reform, and people who offend the justice system are not meant to ever be part of society again, then everyone ever sentenced, be it theft, dogfighting, white collar crime etc ought to be executed immediatly by your rational instead of being rehabilitated into contributing a meaningful role in society. He did wrong, he went to jail, and he is trying to put it right. Vick did awful things to dogs, we have a history in this country of people doing awful things to people, and they have begged for forgivess and are walking free.
9 Feb 2011, 09:31 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-563: “What Luke is doing admiring such a person only he would know. Just makes me like him even less”
SO THAT’S WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT FOR YOU TOO.
Thanks for proving my point.
Cool, don’t worry, I won’t raise the point again. I see your angle.
9 Feb 2011, 09:41 am
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-564: Who said anything about executing people? I know you’re trying to sound dramatic, but you’re simply diluting the argument.
The NFL had no business allowing scum like that back into the game; back into a rock star life of excess and glory. Sure, release him from prison so that he can work, like any man, at rebuilding his life. Let him learn about hard work and modesty. But, for the love of god, don’t give him his old life back on a plate. In my book he has blown that chance for good.
History has shown that these American nouveau riche sports stars generally don’t have the IQ or EQ to deal with their wealth.
Just like I would not vote a “reformed” Polsmoor rapist or murderer into public office, I would not afford this lowlife the opportunity his greedy Yank sports bosses have given him. Because they’re also in it for themselves, and what are a few dozen dogs compared to a bargain QB star?
9 Feb 2011, 09:46 am
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-565: Why should I like him, just because you do? I bet you don’t like a number of rugby players either. And I bet some of them are Afrikaners. Should I draw conclusions there?
I find him arrogant and manipulative, and I just don’t like him. I don’t like his perpetual victim status. I don’t like his “me against the world” fight. I don’t like his meddling father. I have many reasons for not liking him, and that is my prerogative. Just as you are perfectly within your rights to not like someone else.
The fact that he admires the “comeback” of a cruel and sadistic ******* like Vick just adds more things to the list of stuff I already don’t like about him.
In fact, it’s more telling that you have such a problem with me not liking him, than the fact that I don’t.
9 Feb 2011, 09:51 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-566: Where would Vick be of better value than in a job he is good at, talking to and inspiring other athlete’s in football about his journey and mistakes or packing groceries.
But we digress, your issue is not with Vick, or the NFL, or other sportsmen caught for drugs who serve bans, commit crimes etc and return. ie Joey Barton, at New Castle, or Percy beating his wife, or Bees Roux, or Pedrie Wannenberg, or Lote Tuquiri, or van Schalkwyk, murder, etc. No, your issue is with Watson.
9 Feb 2011, 09:56 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-567:
I have no feelings about Watson either way. Just like I have none about any other Sports star. I certainly do not spend my time following his twitters and drawing hateful conclusions from them, like some people.
Have a little perspective Katman. Hatred for a sportsman who doesn’t even know you is a waste of time. All your conclusions are not even first hand knowledge and you invest so much hatred into it.
9 Feb 2011, 10:02 am
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-568: These kind of arguments (there’s a name for them that I can’t recall now) are so futile. I refer to the way you deflect the attention elsewhere, to cases that might serve your point. So by not liking Luke, I (by default) must support the actions of Roux, van Schalkwyk etc? It’s politics 101, and only the likes of Malema and Shivambu still attempt to use it.
This issue here, today, is about Luke and his dubious admiration for the biggest scumbag in the NFL. Not about Bees Roux or Pedrie or van Schalkwyk. When these guys were the topic, I had plenty to say about them too. And no, it was not flattering.
Come on, you’re smarter than that.
9 Feb 2011, 10:08 am
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-569: Hatred? I just said I don’t like the guy.
I don’t like Steve Hofmeyr or Deborah Patta or Julius Malema or Andre Nel or Danny K or Amor Vittone or Mike Bolhuis or Benni McCarthy or a whole host of other people I have never met, and who don’t know I exist. This is not unusual. And I’m sure you have a similar list. Mine contains Luke.
Deal with it, and stop trying to be such a revolutionary. There is no struggle anymore, however empty that makes us all feel.
9 Feb 2011, 10:12 am
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-508: No no no, it’s not his fault!! He needs more creative players around him!!!
9 Feb 2011, 10:16 am
God you are sexy when you’re angry Lilly
9 Feb 2011, 10:21 am
I was a vocal critic of this wasteful and poorly organised R100 million World Youth Festival. But I’ve just heard something that has made me eat my words. According to National Youth Development Agency chairperson and ANC Youth League vice-chairperson, Andile Lungisa, Egypt would not be free without said Festival.
“I’m not saying we started the protests, but before the festival there were no protests in Egypt. After the festival, there were. Draw your own conclusions,” Lungisa told the media.
So there you have it. Money well spent.
9 Feb 2011, 10:23 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-574: meant to post that on a thread with some traffic.
9 Feb 2011, 10:26 am
Katman.
It’s no use.
The Speedo struggle crew have deigned that Luke Watson is a role model and hero. Largely to do with the big two finger salute he supposedly showed to the core SA support base, who they don’t identify with. Anyone who does not share this view is racist and a bloody agent.
Note how Bossy-Rossi chose not to comment on the dog fighting/animal cruelty aspect, which is the crux of the issue. Using her unusual sense of logic, we would therefore be well within our rights to suggest that she condones such behaviour. But that would just be silly.
9 Feb 2011, 10:33 am
Katman
Beautiful
You can’t make that **** up
The cream of the nation’s youth
Rich and thick.
9 Feb 2011, 10:38 am
@gunther(gunther)-577: I posted another worrying conclusion about the Festival in the Elmer Fudd in hot seat thread.
9 Feb 2011, 10:40 am
@gunther(gunther)-577: We shall henceforth call them the Hearty Oxtail Soup Comrades.
9 Feb 2011, 10:48 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-570: @>^..^< katman(katman)-571: At what point did we start talking about race?
Last time I checked, we were talking about your free admission that you hated Luke Watson a sporting personality.
I made examples of many other sporting personalities who have been accused and committed offenses worse than his, which I don;t see this blog dedicating special interest in. My only issue is that you want to hold Luke up and crucify him for saying Mike Vick has done well in turning his life around, but no such vicious hatred is meated out for some of the others. The conclusion is what you’ve admitted to. The others, and their indiscretions do not bother you much, because you have a hatred for Watson. End of story.
Now your angles at Malema and making it political simply do not add up. Are you just throwing mud, or were we debating.
The discussion is in fact at an end, since you admitted that whether Luke twittered about Mike Vick, or New York fashion week is of no relevance really, the relevance is that you hate him. So hate away! Go for it! Let rip!
I only thought it was a waste of energy on someone who doesn’t even know who you are.
9 Feb 2011, 10:51 am
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-576: Hello Spooner. Following me around for mud throwing of your own. Boys Boys Boys. All this attention for little ol me.
I suppose you are just lending you support to the “WE BLINDLY HATE LUKE SQUAD”. Go for it. Follow the tweets. Knock yourself out.
Love to stay, but I have the rest of my life to live, with real people who know me.
9 Feb 2011, 10:53 am
@gunther(gunther)-573:
Not angry, but very very sexy today. Thanks for mentioning it.
9 Feb 2011, 10:58 am
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-580: Sweet heavens, Rossi, nothing I’ve said seems to have landed and taken seed anywhere. Read my posts again, this time without your angry specs on. Because everything you’ve just said here has already been answered (remember, fighting for the sake of it diminishes your cred when you really have a point). Anyway, I couldn’t have stated my case more clearly. You just want to argue, so I’m done here.
9 Feb 2011, 10:59 am
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-581: Hello Bossy. You only required a small dose of STFU this morning. Job done. Close the door behind you then and don’t hurry back.
9 Feb 2011, 11:26 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-583: That’s what I was trying to say. We’ve concluded. Besides, I mentioned Barton too. You chose to side step him. Wonder why?
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-584: So you’ll be yapping at my heels today. Okay. SIT! Good boy.
9 Feb 2011, 11:38 am
I’m disappointed the keo scribes didn’t interrogate the Tolkien theme more vigorously. The “Return of the King” headline is pretty sharp, and suites a piece on Du Preez. But they could have landed a royal flush here with a bit of lateral thought, and milked the entire Trilogy.
The Fellowship of the Ring: An in-depth look at the inner circle of senior Boks who keep their spots by continuously kissing the coach’s nought.
The Two Towers: We take a look at how the Bulls will crumble back to their levels of a decade ago after Vic and Bakkies retire.
Return of the King: (already dealt with)
And as a bonus feature, we could have a piece that blows smoke up the bum of Luke Watson, called “The Hobbit”.
9 Feb 2011, 11:40 am
How’s this little obviously nothot tart commenting on everything but rugby.
There must be a full moon high above Boksburg… Hot flushes, anger and tantrums all round…
Truly special… A Boksburg special…
9 Feb 2011, 11:42 am
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-585: Who the fck is Barton? Honestly, rossi, you’re just pissing away your name here.
9 Feb 2011, 11:49 am
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-558: Woooh! Some harsh words there man, and completely unjustified – I would not have a problem with just everything Luke says – I usually enjoy the stuff he tweets and enjoyed the interview with him in SA Rugby, about how he has become a changed man.
This was not a good call from a professional sportsman who is a role model to kids and others.
When all the football scandals broke last year in the UK – John Terry, Ashley Cole and even Rooney’s – there was massive debate about their roles as role models for the country’s youth and their responsibilities off the field and so on. I firmly believe that these sportsmen have a responsibility off the field to be good role models.
If Pedrie comes back, and plays good rugby and makes the Bok team or whatever, that will be great for him and an asset to SA Rugby, but I dont think any of us (and I personally wouldnt) talk of him coming back from “adversity” or “a knock” or anything like that. His misfortune was unfortunately his own doing.
So go easy on the adjectives and insults. If you cant appreciate an opinion and another point of view and all you can resort to is shouting it down and insults, then it shows who, in fact, is “plain pathetic”
9 Feb 2011, 12:00 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-588</a You don't know then. Ok.
I don't understand why you are swinging insults and insinuating racism and getting ugly in your posts.
IF YOU WANT TO HATE LUKE PLEASE FEEL FREE TO DO SO!
Clear now?
Are we done?
9 Feb 2011, 12:03 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-550: hahahaha, well, in a way my point is not even that its Luke (it just happened to be). But even if Smit (Grant would love that!), Habana, Shane Williams or any player had tweeted that I would have the same problem with it.
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-552: Well HG, its not only Luke who admires Vick – he has legions of fans and supporters. I suppose its different people – some view only what a sportsman does on the field as relevant, while others think they should be “good” people in their overall lives.
@>^..^< katman(katman)-561: I agree with you Katman – he didnt really turn his life around, he simply was allowed to return to the game, and played well (like he did before)…
I cant see though how someone who willingly harms innocent animals like that, to make millions of dollars, can be condoned. It makes Pedrie’s, Andries’ and even Luke’s transgressions pale in comparison!
9 Feb 2011, 12:04 pm
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-590: You need an argument treadmill or hamster wheel, where you can go it alone and wear yourself out.
Insults? Racism? Ugly? Hate?
Go read again. Seriously Rossi, you’ve lost the plot here.
9 Feb 2011, 12:05 pm
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-590: I could ask you the same about swinging insults.
You need to calm down oke. Its just a blog where people are discussing rugby stuff. You seem very tense.
9 Feb 2011, 12:07 pm
@BringItHomeBoks(bokfan1)-591: Yep, he needs several reincarnated lifetimes of good before he’s turned anything around.
9 Feb 2011, 12:11 pm
@BringItHomeBoks(bokfan1)-593:
Where did I insult you chap? As for opinions, I am entitled to mine too.
As for rugby stuff? Who mentioned twitter posts, and Mike Vick?
9 Feb 2011, 12:20 pm
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-595: Come on guy – you wrote “Your just plain pathetic” – which I imagine is meant to be “You’re”.
You entire post @rossoneri(rossoneri)-558 was aimed at me instead the subject I had posted about.
As Katman says, @>^..^< katman(katman)-592 you seem to be looking for an argument all the time.
Come on, we’re all here to discuss and debate, but not to insult each other when we dont know each other. Save the insults for the Kiwis
9 Feb 2011, 12:20 pm
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-595: It is rugby stuff! It was in SA Rugby mag, tweeted by a rugby player.
9 Feb 2011, 12:27 pm
@BringItHomeBoks(bokfan1)-596: Do you wanna list the insults that came my way? Didn’t think so.
So you mention Mike Vick and Luke, but no one else can express a view, because if we do, it stops being relevant? Hahahahahaha. You’re a funny guy.
9 Feb 2011, 13:42 pm
Other things I loved in the mag:
Ryan’s writing skills are coming along! The first 2 paragraphs of the Fourie Du Prrez article are pure poetry!
Also his description in the Face Off column that “sentiment directed my pen”
The Tweet section is very entertaining – Ross Skeate’s tweets were classic!
The Robert Gumede interview was brilliant, I like his vision and his views.
The article on referees was very interesting and well-balanced. It showed how complicated a rugby ref’s job is but also gave stats about how vastly different 2 top referees penalty counts can be (and therefore inconsistent for teams to play the game with). Fascinating.
What I didnt like:
Marc Hinton – BORING! As usual. Why would I want to read about the potential next AB coach?
Keo’s comments on Pdiv’s tenure being “4 years too many”. Offsides Keo! Is that column of yours published in a NZ magazine?
But all in all a quality mag that keeps improving
9 Feb 2011, 13:48 pm
@BringItHomeBoks(bokfan1)-599: Good to hear. Still sticking with the bits and pieces that I pick up for free on the Net….
9 Feb 2011, 14:10 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-600: The mag is worth it – especially for the price of the digital issue!
For example, in this one there is a great interview with Francois Louw – which is something I have been waiting for, for ages – to hear his side of the story.
That kind of thing you cant get on the net I think.
I am a big fan of the guy and cant believe how he was treated in the 3 Nations. I hope he plays even better in S15 than he did last year (if possible) and is in the RWC squad.
I wish the Bok coaches had just tried the Stormers loose trio for that 1st 3 Nations game in Auckland…
they had dominated all NZ sides in S14 and it couldve worked. Then kept Yster Smith on the bench for the last 30 mins or so, and nowdays the Boks could also use Alberts.
Anyway – wishful thinking, we will never know. But dropping Louw was terrible. As bad as Vermeulen not getting a call up.
Spies and Kanko have had more than enough chances to prove they are not the best #8s.
Same with Daniels, Potgieter and Stegman at 6. All great players but for the Boks we need something more – and that Stormers loose trio is it! With Juan and Alberts rotating in the trio I think it will be awesome.
And of course Brussow if he is still so brilliant under the new laws.
9 Feb 2011, 15:01 pm
@BringItHomeBoks(bokfan1)-601: I’m with you on the Stormers Trio boet. Bad Luck for FLO, but he did seem to struggle with the combos we had on at the time. It’s a fine balancing act hey? Get one or two combo’s wrong and there’s something missing, and at that level that’s enough to set you back badly.
23 Feb 2011, 10:33 am
Round 1. FdP rated about a 5.5 – 6
Performed most tasks reasonably but was a tad under-done for conditioning. This was blindingly obvious when he constantly sprinted out of alignment on defense, from an already off-side position. His stamina and legal positioning will come with game time.
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