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		<title>By: Yetirat(Yetirat)</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 20:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1815710&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The X-factor is staying at home.(gunther)-42&lt;/a&gt;: Sorry should be &quot;rapport&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1815710" rel="nofollow">The X-factor is staying at home.(gunther)-42</a>: Sorry should be &#8220;rapport&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: kaksioek(kaksioek)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/03/07/trouble-with-transition/#comment-1816107</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 19:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Where is Tackie Tits? Still heartbroken? :twisted:]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is Tackie Tits? Still heartbroken? <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif' alt=':twisted:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: kaksioek(kaksioek)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/03/07/trouble-with-transition/#comment-1816103</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 19:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1815761&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;skopiskoobidoo(ilanjo)-47&lt;/a&gt;: Oh Skoppiekins, even a crocked clock is right twice a day - ne?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1815761" rel="nofollow">skopiskoobidoo(ilanjo)-47</a>: Oh Skoppiekins, even a crocked clock is right twice a day &#8211; ne?</p>
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		<title>By: Hondo(Hondo)</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 18:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Bulls managed JUST a win0f  their first 2 matches by a small margin and under the highly contrversial refereeing of two swindlers in Jonker and Craig Joubert!
The Bulls lost under a referee who is not a S African last weekend.
That essentially points out at a trend, their next game will be the Stormers in fortnight time, see if they will draw Jason Jaftha or Pro Legote as the referee?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bulls managed JUST a win0f  their first 2 matches by a small margin and under the highly contrversial refereeing of two swindlers in Jonker and Craig Joubert!<br />
The Bulls lost under a referee who is not a S African last weekend.<br />
That essentially points out at a trend, their next game will be the Stormers in fortnight time, see if they will draw Jason Jaftha or Pro Legote as the referee?<br />
 <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: MTN RedLion Roars...(RL)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/03/07/trouble-with-transition/#comment-1815919</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 15:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The usually stingy Bulls have now conceded 10 tries against three of the weaker teams in the tournament&quot;


come now vrede, not only did they score more tries than any of the other semi final teams last year they also conceded more tries so how can you call their defense stingy?

I guess you were also denied access to these stats yourass was banned from Loftus.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The usually stingy Bulls have now conceded 10 tries against three of the weaker teams in the tournament&#8221;</p>
<p>come now vrede, not only did they score more tries than any of the other semi final teams last year they also conceded more tries so how can you call their defense stingy?</p>
<p>I guess you were also denied access to these stats yourass was banned from Loftus.</p>
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		<title>By: &#62;^..^&#60; katman(katman)</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 15:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1815913&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pg001(Rooipiet)-60&lt;/a&gt;: Ja-nee, jy&#039;s seker reg.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1815913" rel="nofollow">pg001(Rooipiet)-60</a>: Ja-nee, jy&#8217;s seker reg.</p>
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		<title>By: pg001(Rooipiet)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/03/07/trouble-with-transition/#comment-1815913</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 14:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@40. &gt;^..^&lt; katman(katman

Bloed = Bloed
Mei = My

T.oskop you got right!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@40. &gt;^..^&lt; katman(katman</p>
<p>Bloed = Bloed<br />
Mei = My</p>
<p>T.oskop you got right!</p>
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		<title>By: Pypkan(Pypkan)</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 14:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1815705&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&gt;^..^&lt; katman(katman)-40&lt;/a&gt;: HAHAHAHA, ek het nou amper gekots soos ek lag.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1815705" rel="nofollow">&gt;^..^&lt; katman(katman)-40</a>: HAHAHAHA, ek het nou amper gekots soos ek lag.</p>
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		<title>By: poppa69(poppa69)</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 14:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1815896&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;stew(stew)-57&lt;/a&gt;:   big shoes to fill thats for sure, and I think Burger would not be a good option for them... great player that he was, he is past his best..

I do think they are finding out this year that they may have put all their eggs in one basket by relying on the majority of players from 2007..

NZ  learnt that lesson in 91..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1815896" rel="nofollow">stew(stew)-57</a>:   big shoes to fill thats for sure, and I think Burger would not be a good option for them&#8230; great player that he was, he is past his best..</p>
<p>I do think they are finding out this year that they may have put all their eggs in one basket by relying on the majority of players from 2007..</p>
<p>NZ  learnt that lesson in 91..</p>
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		<title>By: stew(stew)</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 14:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He he , they are going to struggle]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He he , they are going to struggle</p>
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		<title>By: poppa69(poppa69)</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 14:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1815892&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;stew(stew)-55&lt;/a&gt;: Im doing great, yourself?

yep, Smith is my favourite SA player, have huge respect for the way he conducts himself on the field... an honest, hard working Saffa... very very rare indeed :lol:   they lose a lot without him being there, and I dont think personally that they have an able replacement to step up to the breech...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1815892" rel="nofollow">stew(stew)-55</a>: Im doing great, yourself?</p>
<p>yep, Smith is my favourite SA player, have huge respect for the way he conducts himself on the field&#8230; an honest, hard working Saffa&#8230; very very rare indeed <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' />    they lose a lot without him being there, and I dont think personally that they have an able replacement to step up to the breech&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: stew(stew)</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 14:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1815890&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;poppa69(poppa69)-54&lt;/a&gt;: Big blow i rate Smith but i suppose Burger would be a great replacement .... How you doing Poppa ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1815890" rel="nofollow">poppa69(poppa69)-54</a>: Big blow i rate Smith but i suppose Burger would be a great replacement &#8230;. How you doing Poppa ?</p>
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		<title>By: poppa69(poppa69)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/03/07/trouble-with-transition/#comment-1815890</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 14:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1815881&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;stew(stew)-53&lt;/a&gt;: not sure Smith will be an option for them at the WC...  he will take some time coming right, then his fitness will be the main question mark...  a big blow for SA chances..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1815881" rel="nofollow">stew(stew)-53</a>: not sure Smith will be an option for them at the WC&#8230;  he will take some time coming right, then his fitness will be the main question mark&#8230;  a big blow for SA chances..</p>
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		<title>By: stew(stew)</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 14:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For the Boks at the WC , testing Alberts at 8 may create the perfect selection

Smith
Alberts
Brussow
Bench : Burger

Should be more balanced than the current trio]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the Boks at the WC , testing Alberts at 8 may create the perfect selection</p>
<p>Smith<br />
Alberts<br />
Brussow<br />
Bench : Burger</p>
<p>Should be more balanced than the current trio</p>
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		<title>By: pokkel(pokkel)</title>
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		<dc:creator>pokkel(pokkel)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 14:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1815879&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;stew(stew)-51&lt;/a&gt;: I reckon Keegan and Alberts both play their best rugby at 8...but Kanko only plays 8 so it creates a bit problem in team selection.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1815879" rel="nofollow">stew(stew)-51</a>: I reckon Keegan and Alberts both play their best rugby at 8&#8230;but Kanko only plays 8 so it creates a bit problem in team selection.</p>
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		<title>By: stew(stew)</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 14:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1815875&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pokkel(pokkel)-50&lt;/a&gt;: Been questioning Spies selection for a while ??? Glad somebody else has spotted this ..... On form currently Johnston and Whittley seem in good form ..... Would be nice for the Sharks to let Alberts play some games at 8]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1815875" rel="nofollow">pokkel(pokkel)-50</a>: Been questioning Spies selection for a while ??? Glad somebody else has spotted this &#8230;.. On form currently Johnston and Whittley seem in good form &#8230;.. Would be nice for the Sharks to let Alberts play some games at 8</p>
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		<title>By: pokkel(pokkel)</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 13:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Comment made on another site wrt Spies.....well said Sir! lol

How Spies continues to make the Bok selection grade is a mystery on par with the disappearance of the crew of Mary Celeste, the size of the Denver airport, the identity of the Zodiac killer, and the inner workings of my wife’s mind. A player of his physical stature – lightning fast. 300kg of muscle mass (admittedly, 100kg of that is in his cheeks) – should absolutely dominate the tackle point, instead of displaying a feeble here-let-me-brush-the-dandruff-off-your-collar-and-hopefully-slow-you-down-enough-for-someone-else-to-make-the-hit tackle technique. I’m sure that waif Phillip Burger tackles harder than Spies. It boggles the mind…]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment made on another site wrt Spies&#8230;..well said Sir! lol</p>
<p>How Spies continues to make the Bok selection grade is a mystery on par with the disappearance of the crew of Mary Celeste, the size of the Denver airport, the identity of the Zodiac killer, and the inner workings of my wife’s mind. A player of his physical stature – lightning fast. 300kg of muscle mass (admittedly, 100kg of that is in his cheeks) – should absolutely dominate the tackle point, instead of displaying a feeble here-let-me-brush-the-dandruff-off-your-collar-and-hopefully-slow-you-down-enough-for-someone-else-to-make-the-hit tackle technique. I’m sure that waif Phillip Burger tackles harder than Spies. It boggles the mind…</p>
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		<title>By: PissAnt(PissAnt)</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 12:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1815787&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ogre(Ogre)-48&lt;/a&gt;: 

I don&#039;t see any problems with the Bulls approach, in fact, a change in the application of the breakdown law where the attacking team, or team in possession got 80% of the calls last year now deliberately trying to be shifted to a more 50/50 situation suggests that a great kicking game and territorially based game might be hugely effective.

My issue with the Bulls, and the reason for my uneasy feeling about them is nothing more than about attitude.

Last year for instance the Bulls were one of the very few SA teams that went to &#039;fetch&#039; tackles beyond the advantage line, nowadays, they wait for teams to run into them.

If you do what they did last year, you will dominate the collissions more effectively also, something they got schooled in over the weekend.

All of this comes down to one thing, attitude.  Defense is about attitude and a sure-fire way to measure any team&#039;s on the day.

That is just one aspect.

But the point is attitude would directly affect the application of your game plan, i.e. chasing kicks harder, driving opposition players back in tackles, dominating contact and through that, lift all those around you.

This is quite clearly absent from the Bulls this year.

And it was not only last weekend, let&#039;s be honest, the Bulls were way below standard in their other two fixtures too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1815787" rel="nofollow">Ogre(Ogre)-48</a>: </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see any problems with the Bulls approach, in fact, a change in the application of the breakdown law where the attacking team, or team in possession got 80% of the calls last year now deliberately trying to be shifted to a more 50/50 situation suggests that a great kicking game and territorially based game might be hugely effective.</p>
<p>My issue with the Bulls, and the reason for my uneasy feeling about them is nothing more than about attitude.</p>
<p>Last year for instance the Bulls were one of the very few SA teams that went to &#8216;fetch&#8217; tackles beyond the advantage line, nowadays, they wait for teams to run into them.</p>
<p>If you do what they did last year, you will dominate the collissions more effectively also, something they got schooled in over the weekend.</p>
<p>All of this comes down to one thing, attitude.  Defense is about attitude and a sure-fire way to measure any team&#8217;s on the day.</p>
<p>That is just one aspect.</p>
<p>But the point is attitude would directly affect the application of your game plan, i.e. chasing kicks harder, driving opposition players back in tackles, dominating contact and through that, lift all those around you.</p>
<p>This is quite clearly absent from the Bulls this year.</p>
<p>And it was not only last weekend, let&#8217;s be honest, the Bulls were way below standard in their other two fixtures too.</p>
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		<title>By: Ogre(Ogre)</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 12:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1815574&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;PissAnt(PissAnt)-20&lt;/a&gt;: Imagine being the Bulls as champs and having every other team snapping at your heels continuously. You need to re-invent your game continuously, and at that they have been fairly successful if results alone are the yardstick, but they too will get some things wrong. The law of averages says so.

So, it seems,  they have got it wrong this time and will have to re-think some approaches. One problem for them that I see is having lost Gary Botha. When you look at revamping a gameplan you do so holistically and you make some assumptions, like that you won&#039;t lose your keyman hooker halfway through the first half of the first game.

It is clear from all three games that the Bulls are investigating the feasibility of a gameplan where they do not cherish possession above all else, ie. if it is bad ball or wrong field position they rather turn it over to the opposition via kicks, relying on being able to regain the ball under more favourable conditions, or try to re-set the phase and move the point of attack, trying to create quicker ball.. But then you have to kick well and contest and protect ball well at ensuing breakdowns, and it is in the latter area that I believe (like Bismark is for the Sharks) that Gary is indispensible for the Bulls in the tight loose.  Chilli doesn&#039;t bring that- he has other strengths.

The tight five have also made some uncharacteristic handling errrors which has put great pressure on the team. They do not respect the possession that they obtain, so their frequency of their attacks are diminished, and as a result the variation in their attack is hampered and limited, and in turn this brings a predictability to their play which dumps huge pressure on a player like Wynand Olivier, because he is a go to man for them when under pressure. It also places great pressure on a guy like Spies when the opposition dominate possesion, because then he has to knuckle down and play a strength-based]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1815574" rel="nofollow">PissAnt(PissAnt)-20</a>: Imagine being the Bulls as champs and having every other team snapping at your heels continuously. You need to re-invent your game continuously, and at that they have been fairly successful if results alone are the yardstick, but they too will get some things wrong. The law of averages says so.</p>
<p>So, it seems,  they have got it wrong this time and will have to re-think some approaches. One problem for them that I see is having lost Gary Botha. When you look at revamping a gameplan you do so holistically and you make some assumptions, like that you won&#8217;t lose your keyman hooker halfway through the first half of the first game.</p>
<p>It is clear from all three games that the Bulls are investigating the feasibility of a gameplan where they do not cherish possession above all else, ie. if it is bad ball or wrong field position they rather turn it over to the opposition via kicks, relying on being able to regain the ball under more favourable conditions, or try to re-set the phase and move the point of attack, trying to create quicker ball.. But then you have to kick well and contest and protect ball well at ensuing breakdowns, and it is in the latter area that I believe (like Bismark is for the Sharks) that Gary is indispensible for the Bulls in the tight loose.  Chilli doesn&#8217;t bring that- he has other strengths.</p>
<p>The tight five have also made some uncharacteristic handling errrors which has put great pressure on the team. They do not respect the possession that they obtain, so their frequency of their attacks are diminished, and as a result the variation in their attack is hampered and limited, and in turn this brings a predictability to their play which dumps huge pressure on a player like Wynand Olivier, because he is a go to man for them when under pressure. It also places great pressure on a guy like Spies when the opposition dominate possesion, because then he has to knuckle down and play a strength-based</p>
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		<title>By: skopiskoobidoo(ilanjo)</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 12:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[how long I been telling you FdP is biggest suurpussi prima donna of all time and you never took note, now you seeing what I been saying all along. Bulls rocked up at Loftus thinking it was a mere formality they would walk away with at least 4 points, its absolutely the best medicine they could ever have hoped to receive, and I reckon would do them and especially Matfield, FdP, Olivier and Spies the world of good to get another few klaps like these for the dire lesson in humility they been asking for to seriously and thoroughly set in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how long I been telling you FdP is biggest suurpussi prima donna of all time and you never took note, now you seeing what I been saying all along. Bulls rocked up at Loftus thinking it was a mere formality they would walk away with at least 4 points, its absolutely the best medicine they could ever have hoped to receive, and I reckon would do them and especially Matfield, FdP, Olivier and Spies the world of good to get another few klaps like these for the dire lesson in humility they been asking for to seriously and thoroughly set in.</p>
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