Sharks must embrace tactical sphere
6 Apr 2011
JON CARDINELLI writes that a meeting with the Lions demands a less adventurous approach from the overly-ambitious Sharks.
The Sharks can’t afford to lose to the Lions. They’ve lost three on the trot, two of which they would have expected to win against the Chiefs and Stormers. They’re no longer setting the standard in the South African conference. They’re scrapping for second place.
A win against the Lions will provide some respite as they head into a bye week. While they’re unlikely to make up ground against the Stormers, they do have an opportunity to surpass the Bulls. The Sharks should expect at least eight points (one for a win and one for a bye) in the next two weeks, while the Bulls will be lucky to win one of their next two encounters against the Crusaders and Reds.
The Sharks should expect to win this weekend, but there are no guarantees. They lost to the Lions in the pre-season, and will know that John Mitchell’s charges are more dangerous than their record suggests.
The Lions went down to the Reds last Saturday, but produced a first half-showing that highlighted some potential in the forwards. Andre Pretorius controlled the game cleverly during that opening half-hour, and if he had kicked for goal more accurately, the Lions may have indeed sneaked an upset.
The Lions’ struggle for composure and their inability to finish is costing them. Defence is another ongoing problem, and the better teams have exposed them in this area.
Where they have got it right, in patches, is on attack. The first 30 minutes against the Reds was characterised by good ball control and impressive physicality at the collisions. They took the Reds forwards on in this department, and successfully limited the space available to the free-running backs.
The Sharks are similar to the Reds in that they depend on the momentum of their forwards. It’s the reason they’ve lost three in a row, as when their forwards haven’t dominated, they have failed to control possession and win territory via other means.
They will need to lift their physicality when they host the Lions, but they will also need to vary their attack. This involves unleashing their monstrous ball-carriers from within opposition territory rather than building the attacking pressure from within their own half.
The Lions’ loose approach will provide them with counter-attacking opportunities, and the Sharks are a side that can take advantage of those chances. But when they have possession, they have to appreciate that controlling possession sometimes means kicking for the touchline and then pressuring the opposition at the subsequent lineout and ruck.
They were handed a lesson by the Stormers last week, and it’s one they need to take to heart. The Sharks’ early results overshadowed some deficiencies in their game, as poor ball control and the unwillingness to vary their attack often led to greater periods on defence, and thus a higher count of missed tackles.
The Lions match represents an opportunity to end on a high before enjoying a bye, but it also represents a chance to embrace a more accurate and complete game. They have the personnel to implement this approach, and with the return of Pat Lambie in Round 10, that approach will become more potent. For now, it’s about striking a better balance.
345 Comments
6 Apr 2011, 05:43 am
Bounce back Dragons
6 Apr 2011, 05:44 am
If the Shorks lose to the Lions, their season is OVAH.
6 Apr 2011, 05:46 am
And if the Lions lose to the Shorks then their season is over too.
6 Apr 2011, 05:57 am
And if it is a draw then it is all even…
6 Apr 2011, 06:04 am
@TheTackler(TheTackler)-2:
..or as the Kiwis say…Shaaaks.
6 Apr 2011, 06:07 am
Good to know that keo and Jon support The Sharks. There are people with taste out there.
Sharks were expected to beat the Chiefs and Stormers…shame man..there was a time when the Stormers were one of the mightiest unions in South Africa.
6 Apr 2011, 06:25 am
Sorry Sharks fans, get ready to drink your draughts mixed with some tears (we know the the taste). After the weekend it will be 3 in a row, also Stormers run of wins will also end in 2 weeks time.
6 Apr 2011, 06:41 am
cardinelli, are you suggesting that the Sharks ditch their IRANZ inspired ball-in-hand approach for a more consevartive skop ‘n jag approach?
6 Apr 2011, 07:02 am
be wary sharks….
I attended the preseason game at newlands….
it was a snotklap of note.
and with smit probably starting i expect lions to win the forward exchanhes
then it is a 50….50…
6 Apr 2011, 07:07 am
The Sharks are in a mess around the midfield area. Shite I hope they sort themselves out there before this game.
6 Apr 2011, 07:21 am
@Hop Hop Spinnekop(Hop Hop Spinnekop)-7: Make that 4 in a row. Now with Discovery on board our forwards can be extra physical in the contact area
(which is a problem atm). Should be a good game of rugby.
6 Apr 2011, 07:25 am
lions are racking up the sponsors huh?
6 Apr 2011, 07:28 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-12: Walking billboards.
I see Braam is our kicking coach. Not a bad choice.
6 Apr 2011, 07:29 am
@Great White Shark(Predawn)-10:
The should reinstate Jacobs in their starting line up, shhouldn’t they?
And they must give the Beast and Ndungane a raise!
6 Apr 2011, 07:33 am
@Hondo(Hondo)-14: to you i ‘raise ‘ the middle finger!
6 Apr 2011, 07:38 am
MTN Discovery Coca Cola Gimja Lions.
So much of sponsors so little of talent.
Quite honestly I’m suprised at Discovery, they don’t usually get involved in terminal cases.
6 Apr 2011, 07:48 am
A game the Sharks should win at the Tank, Hargreaves loss will be felt , don’t think that Mostert and later Skeate are anywhere near match fit or at the required intensity levels of a S15 campaign already going into its 8th week !!
Lambies loss will further compound matters ,talk of Bosman moving to FH, this means a change in midfield and untested combinations, never good in a must win game !!!!
Not sure if Deysel will be starting or on the bench, I look forward to seeing how he goes.
If Smit starts at LH I foresee the Lions dominating the scrums like they did pre season, giving them front foot ball which will make them very dangerous, expect Andre Pretorius to control the game if his forwards dominate, Sharks simply cannot allow this to happen, Plum must select wisely !!
I still expect the Sharks to edge a close one !!
6 Apr 2011, 07:49 am
Bulls will be ‘lucky’ to win one of their next two games?
Really JC?
Crusaders are coming off a bye and if they indeed lose Carter the Bulls have a very real chance of upsetting them.
The Reds will also be returning from a South African tour the week after, never easy…
As for the Stormers, they are traditionally poor against Aussie teams and lately have not done well at Ellis Park in JHB against the Lions…
A 9 point lead on the log where you get 4 points for a bye means little at this stage and can look very different 14 days from now.
6 Apr 2011, 07:51 am
I think the Sharks need to put Adi in at outside centre. Where is the attacking threat coming from in the backs at the moment?
6 Apr 2011, 07:51 am
I am also very concerned about the trip t Ellis Park….that is a banana skin game for stormers…..
Not sure why but I have a feeling Stormers will do well this weekend though!
6 Apr 2011, 07:52 am
Adi should be starting…..
6 Apr 2011, 08:06 am
ffs jc. not another sharks article. there are 4 other franchises in sa, you know.
6 Apr 2011, 08:07 am
@The X-factor is staying at home.(gunther)-16:
Discovery also promise much but deliver little !!!!
Good combination !!
6 Apr 2011, 08:10 am
Huge drama in Lions set up ….see IOL…Gumede and the Board at loggerheads!
6 Apr 2011, 08:18 am
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-18: We dont need a home ground , just teams to slaughter …. SADERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
6 Apr 2011, 08:21 am
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-18: Remember PA. Reds returned from an SA excursion last year as well when playing us. They still clobbered us.
6 Apr 2011, 08:24 am
Here’s a quote from Quade Cooper, for those who think Habana has lost pace !!!
“The Stormers are also a good attacking side. Bryan Habana is probably the fastest guy in world rugby, Gio can run from anywhere if you kick the ball aimlessly down field, and Jean de Villiers and Jaque Fourie are big guys with good skill,” said Cooper.
6 Apr 2011, 08:26 am
@stew(stew)-25:
And currently you are, but this weekend is not a given.
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-26:
Not really a clobbering but I get your point. It was also the worst game the Bulls played in 2010. This year they will be a lot more circumspect I would think playing more of their own brand of rugby and not try and beat the Reds by scoring tries.
6 Apr 2011, 08:26 am
Meaning trying to beat them at their own game… expansive.
6 Apr 2011, 08:29 am
@justrugby(justrugby)-27: Tell that to the guy who rounded Habana in the WC 2007. Try of the tourney is was. Also I think that Davies from the Reds will his heels. But Habana still has the wheels. He is getting back to form.
6 Apr 2011, 08:31 am
brisbane is a burial ground for sa teams….ask Jake White
6 Apr 2011, 08:31 am
@Hop Hop Spinnekop(Hop Hop Spinnekop)-30: ** Deletes auto correct program from PC **
FFS
6 Apr 2011, 08:31 am
From the Cheetahs website!! Despite their horrendous injury list, the Cheetah team still earns respect in the land of the long white cloud, with their fighting spirit and their grounding!! Go Cheetahs!!
“Tony Johnson
(New Zealand kommentator) uittreksel van artikel op Super Rugby blad
Despite the calibre of the players they have out of action, the Toyota Cheetahs made a contest of a game many thought would be a cakewalk for the Blues.
I know Fourie du Preez is a kingpin, but South Africa has in Dewaldt Duvenage and Sarel Pretorius a couple of cracking halfbacks on the rise. Pretorius didn’t start to run until late in the game, but when he did, he made real inroads.
It was, I suspect, a tougher game than it looked – that’s certainly the impression I got walking through the players’ tunnel afterwards. There were some tired and battered bodies, a reminder of how tough this expanded competition is going to be, and how careful coaches have to be in handling their troops.
Just one footnote on that game. I was told afterwards how one of the Toyota Cheetahs who’d been subbed, Corne Uys I believe, was standing in front of some young fans who’d gathered on the perimeter fence to get a closer look at the players.
He struck up a conversation with them, asking them about their own teams, what position they played etc, and finished by wishing them well and encouraging them to keep playing rugby.
I’m told those kids went away with big smiles that are probably still on their faces.
Professional rugby players are expected to fulfil many obligations, but something like that is beyond the call of duty and did him and his team the utmost credit.”
6 Apr 2011, 08:32 am
@justrugby(justrugby)-27: Were you really holding your breath for him to tweet:
“This is gonna be a walk in the park. Habana is a shadow of his former self, only slower. Gio is suspect under the high ball as he has a lot of heart but not the required height to compete. Jean de Villiers has turned into a crashball specialist, probably trying to emulate the self-proclaimed “best 13 in the world” outside of him. Looking forward to dancing my way through these hapless hobos”
6 Apr 2011, 08:34 am
@Hop Hop Spinnekop(Hop Hop Spinnekop)-30:
Don’t remind me of that try, it was very impressive !!!
Agree habana seems to be getting into some sort of form, still a way to go but he is progressing which is great, for him, the Stormers and the Boks !!!
6 Apr 2011, 08:36 am
personally i rate bulls chances better this weekend than against reds….
especially if carter not available….as seems likely
6 Apr 2011, 08:37 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-34:
Was not a tweet , it was part of an interview !!!
And your take on the players you mention , way off the mark, but then you know that !!
6 Apr 2011, 08:41 am
@justrugby(justrugby)-37: Lol. Its not my take, just saying that its unlikely for Quade or anyone else to speak disparagingly of opposition players. Well anyone except Jake that is.
6 Apr 2011, 08:44 am
pissant: just a thought, the Reds were coming from a tour last year & WALLOPED the blue bulls with anthony fainga’a proving wynand is a joke & scott higginbotham showing meisiekind & ‘mullet rat’ dippenaar a clean pair of heels.
6 Apr 2011, 08:45 am
The wheels on the Golden Gumedes magic bus starting to come off?
Let’s face it the action in the Lions boardroom is more interesting than the action on the pitch.
6 Apr 2011, 08:46 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-38:
6 Apr 2011, 08:50 am
@The X-factor is staying at home.(gunther)-40: Touche
6 Apr 2011, 08:51 am
Is a tactical sphere a crystal ball?
6 Apr 2011, 08:53 am
why is no one mentioning the real reason my precious sharks are battling?!?!
our centres are well below adequate and jlp is absolutely not a super rugby flyhalf…
we even looked better with meyer bosman at flyhalf?!?! and adi looked by far the sharpest centre we have and things happen when he is on…
i believe stefan should go to fullback and adi should come in on centre
6 Apr 2011, 08:56 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-38:
@justrugby(justrugby)-41:
Best in this regard I ever read was by the great ******** Ali before his fight against Sonny Liston when he said :
“Liston is nothing, he can’t talk, he can’t fight, he needs talking lessons, he needs boxing lessons, And since he is gonna fight me he needs falling lessons”
And Sonny did fall.
6 Apr 2011, 08:58 am
@Robzim(Robzim)-45:
LOL, Brilliant !!!!!
6 Apr 2011, 08:59 am
I woo say this though, if the shorks lose to the Golden Gumedes it will feel like a kick in the tactical spheres.
6 Apr 2011, 09:01 am
@Robzim(Robzim)-45:
Would love to see that kind of trash talk in rugby!
Imagine Smit about the Lions: Those BEE sponsored pu-ssies are gonna get a pounding of note. At the Sharks we dont discriminate, we fu-ck BEE and non-BEE pu-ssies with equal vigour.
Now that would be entertaining!
6 Apr 2011, 09:13 am
Embrace the tactical sphere?
WTFF Cardinelli? Sometimes your headlines are so far up your own bum, they get lost for days.
6 Apr 2011, 09:17 am
HHP: braam van straaten did well with lambie pre-season, seeing as lambie’s kicking has improved. Hopefully he produces results with elton’s kicking too. So what is carlos spencer going to do now, cos he was the kicking mentor?
6 Apr 2011, 09:20 am
sharks needs leadership on the field.john smit should be starting not sitting on the bench.
6 Apr 2011, 09:43 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-50: Carlos was never a good kicker.I was surprised when I heard he was kicking coach. My guess is he will concentrate fully on the back line play. That’s what he was appointed for in the first place. Now the Lions need a defence coach because Carlos didn’t excel in that either. Boots had a rerun of Bands bumping off Carlos just last week.
6 Apr 2011, 09:52 am
@Hop Hop Spinnekop(Hop Hop Spinnekop)-52: I saw the Bands bump too the other day. Never gets tired.
6 Apr 2011, 09:53 am
Where’s that fella these days?
Really faded off the scene quickly
6 Apr 2011, 09:56 am
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-18: PissAnt, I feel the same. This could be a chance for Bulls to beat Saders. Without Carter they never the same.
Said on the Kiwi thread here yesterday that Bulls could beat Saders. Tell you what if they do, reckon Bulls will be the hardest team to beat after. Their confidence will be massive. I also feel they could beat the Reds in Brisbane. Reds have to travel back from Cape Town. Not easy that.
Good luck to Bulls really hope they do.
6 Apr 2011, 09:57 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-53: Bands could have been one of the greats, but his kryptonite was food and a phobia for the treadmill. Like you said…. that had off never gets tired.
6 Apr 2011, 09:59 am
@Hop Hop Spinnekop(Hop Hop Spinnekop)-56: He always looked like he was one pick-and-drive short of a cardiac arrest. Even before kick-off.
6 Apr 2011, 10:00 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-53: Add his bulldozing run, S14 semi-final 2007, McCaw out for the count. Lovely stuff.
6 Apr 2011, 10:10 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-58:
Ritchie still makes a little wee when he hears the word bands.
6 Apr 2011, 10:20 am
Embrace the tactical sphere… Sounds like Straulie is up to no good again. I bet they must embrace them naked in a cold pit.
6 Apr 2011, 10:34 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-39: don’t forget that genia also owned Fourie dupreez
6 Apr 2011, 10:39 am
@Lucem Petimus(Lucem Petimus)-51: unfortunately in this case,the leadership john brings comes at too high an expense
6 Apr 2011, 10:44 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-50: Carlos Spencer was teaching Elton to kick????, LOL!!!!! , Ooh my god!!!!
6 Apr 2011, 10:48 am
This is going to be the game of forwards. With Jannie, Beast, John Smith and Bismarck in the front row I am sure they will dominate the scrums. Even if John Smit plays at loosehead prop, he will be scrumming against Pat Cilliers who is seriously not a good rugby player – a Lightweight. Sharks released him, so they didn’t see potential in him either. JC agains Jannie… 50-50. Bandise not bad but workrate sometimes a bit too low in comparison with Bismarck.
Think the Sharks will take this one!
6 Apr 2011, 10:54 am
@Volcano(Volcano)-64:
I was at the pre season game at Newlands, Cilliers gave JS a torrid time !!!
Sharks pack was comprehensively drilled, Sharks cannot allow this to happen on Sat, not sure they should be selecting JS at LH !!
6 Apr 2011, 11:13 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-60: how did streuli manage to get into the franchise after staaldraad? is the union family owned?
6 Apr 2011, 11:18 am
mainland: he got in there on ‘merit’, for rugby reasons alone
6 Apr 2011, 11:23 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-67: you need a really good reason to have that guy there
6 Apr 2011, 11:25 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-67: Like offering Ludeke a job with a record of 2 wins in 26 games, pure “merit” I tell you…
6 Apr 2011, 11:40 am
@Lucem Petimus(Lucem Petimus)-51: no
6 Apr 2011, 11:53 am
It’s important for john smit to be playing and captaining regularly because whether we liked it or not he will be the captain and number two of the boks at the wc.just hope he stays away from 1 and 3.
6 Apr 2011, 12:21 pm
@XhosaKid(XhosaKid)-69: like keeping eric sauls on for years after he routinely selected midgets and clearly couldnt turn youth talent into a winning team?
6 Apr 2011, 12:35 pm
@Lucem Petimus(Lucem Petimus)-71: i predict he will be on the bench covering 2 for the Boks… PdV doesn’t have the balls to drop him completely and isn’t stupid enough to play him at prop, so he’ll take the lukewarm approach and keep him on the bench, imo.
6 Apr 2011, 12:39 pm
Sharks and Saders WILL win this weekend. I have no doubt. With or without Carter. Stormers will need to turn up to beat the unpredictable Reds.
6 Apr 2011, 12:41 pm
@Bill Reyts(Gumboots)-74: i don’t know about this week but the sharks will definitely win next week and bag the four points.
6 Apr 2011, 12:42 pm
@Lucem Petimus(Lucem Petimus)-75:
LOL yeah that is a cert!!!
6 Apr 2011, 12:57 pm
@justrugby(justrugby)-65: come now JR you know full well JS had just come back from a neck op and had not played for 8 months
is that not what warm up matches are for ?? getting practice , getting back into things???
6 Apr 2011, 12:58 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-77: then choose him at 1 ….or 3 …this weekend?
6 Apr 2011, 13:12 pm
@grant10(grant10)-78: are you JR?? was wondering
and i dont choose the team
just pointing out to JR that his example is not fair
I’ll stick to being a good supporter and let the expert (PLUM) do the selecting
6 Apr 2011, 13:21 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-79: bissy will get a break i reckon…
6 Apr 2011, 13:24 pm
@grant10(grant10)-80: grant i think so too , means smit will be 2 with beast and jannie at prop , thats a very powerful front row
smit line outs are good , but its in the loose we will miss bissy
he a fetcher of note
6 Apr 2011, 13:27 pm
Barney is gathering momentum.
the more he plays the sharper he will get.
the shorks will rip the lions a new poeper
I hope GoldenballsGumede kept his receipt.
6 Apr 2011, 13:28 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-72: wow!!, funny you would show your ignorance and lately your racially influenced bias, do you know who was the first South African coach to win an IRB junior World Cup.?
6 Apr 2011, 13:28 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-81: agreed…
Maybe let Van Staden play at 3 as well
Jannie looks moeg
and i rate that van staden highly.
but plum may be a bit scared…it really is a do or die game.
may well be the same team as last Sat !
6 Apr 2011, 13:30 pm
@grant10(grant10)-80: the boks management needs to see smit on the playing field whether he is turbo-reversing or not.
6 Apr 2011, 13:32 pm
@grant10(grant10)-84: grant there i also agree
i really like van staden and i reckon he wont let the team down and should get a start
6 Apr 2011, 13:33 pm
@XhosaKid(XhosaKid)-83: rangerman used to be a very objective blogger but changed since mixing with sharkslover.very sad indeed.
6 Apr 2011, 13:33 pm
yeah grant it all depends if plum is prepared to gamble a bit
i would also like to see bosman play 10 and bring in adi at 12
6 Apr 2011, 13:36 pm
@Lucem Petimus(Lucem Petimus)-87: piss off twat , go start you **** elsewhere
6 Apr 2011, 13:44 pm
at the moment we can safely say that the sharks depends on one person,lambie,to keep themselves in the super 15 title race.without lambie their 10,12 and 13 axis are in a shambolic state.can that improve?i don’t think so because these players at best should be playing at varsity cup level and not super rugby level.i really do believe that the sharks are struggling with depth problems and a prime example of this is the case of oupa terblanche who by now is probably planning the finer details of his 50th bash.
6 Apr 2011, 13:51 pm
I honestly feel the more Smit plays the more his lack of hunger and or form will be exposed….I say this with no malice….it is simply my opinion.
I also think the lions…sharks game will be 1 of the best of the weekend.
Players like Whiteley, Pat Cilliers, Kockitt will be all out to prove themselves….and the Mapoe saga is still a raw wound!
Going to be a helleva interesting game.
6 Apr 2011, 13:54 pm
@grant10(grant10)-91: i believe that those lions players will be seriously stoked for that game.sharks might be heading for defeat number 4 here.
6 Apr 2011, 13:55 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-88: Now, that would be the best selection in the absence of Lambie, gradually Plum is showing that he is a forwards coach not a head coach, Bosman plays closer to the gain line and Adi Jacobs wins one on one with any centre in the world.
6 Apr 2011, 14:01 pm
@XhosaKid(XhosaKid)-93: kid i always been an adi fan , just remember though he has been out with a long injury layoff
yes i know some cry about his defence , but there are very few c enters that read gaps then adi and he runs off the ball so well
6 Apr 2011, 14:01 pm
Adi Jacobs one on one with any centre in the world?? fark!! TIK is getting stronger and stronger by the day!
6 Apr 2011, 14:02 pm
@grant10(grant10)-91: no mallice seen grant , i kbnow its you point of view , its just when you post it all the time , which you have not , and i see it as we are discuusing the issue at hand
6 Apr 2011, 14:04 pm
@Sonny_bill_is_k@k_Mossie_is_king(WO_to_kill_Sir_Elton)-95: very interesting nick…..yet again.listen here chomma,sharkslover is entitled to his opinion.
6 Apr 2011, 14:04 pm
@XhosaKid(XhosaKid)-93: Adi Jacobs would have been punished by Frueun & SBW just the same ……….. time for the Sharks to buy some decent backs , they have lost too much quality
6 Apr 2011, 14:04 pm
@Sonny_bill_is_k@k_Mossie_is_king(WO_to_kill_Sir_Elton)-95: lol yes we can name many better centers , but he is not as bad as some make him out to be
6 Apr 2011, 14:05 pm
@Lucem Petimus(Lucem Petimus)-92: the leeus will be highly charged….i watched the pre season game at newlands….i know only a warm up….but lions came out breathing fire!
6 Apr 2011, 14:07 pm
jacobs might be good for the sharks but he should never be considrd for the boks again together with meisiekind.young guns like jdj and lambie are the future now.
6 Apr 2011, 14:07 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-96:
what’s the story with adi jacobs?
he recovered from injury ages ago no?
he seems to get no gametime at all.
6 Apr 2011, 14:08 pm
@stew(stew)-98: correct stew
now they have purchased a couple of fairly good centers that will be with them in june
but they also has some great young up and coming centers like paul jordaan , i just wish they will get the kid in , this kid is a super star of note as far as i am concerned
6 Apr 2011, 14:09 pm
@The X-factor is staying at home.(gunther)-102: mostly cos he’s just baaaaad.
6 Apr 2011, 14:10 pm
The Sharks should try and get Frans Steyn back as inside centre ….. hunble pie needs to be eaten by the Sharks
6 Apr 2011, 14:11 pm
@Pick the team in August not March(stormersboy)-104:
michael jackson bad?
6 Apr 2011, 14:14 pm
@The X-factor is staying at home.(gunther)-102: gunther no he had an injury came back then got injured again
he is now injury free as far as i know, and in the last few times he has come onto the field has looked quite good
6 Apr 2011, 14:15 pm
@stew(stew)-105: The problem is not at 12… Its 13 where a good strike runner is needed. Stefan, bless him, is a loyal servant but at 13 he is solid… Mind you SA on the whole has a drastic shortage of World Class 13s… Only one: Mossie.
6 Apr 2011, 14:18 pm
Judging purely on the personell the sharks have for this weekend if i was coach i would pick:
15. ludick
14. jp
13. teblanche
12. adi
11. mvovo
10. bosman
09. mcleod
08. daniel
07. alberts
06. deysel
05. skeate
04. sykes
03. jannie
02. smit
01. beast
16 bissie
17 van staden
18 mostert
19 botes
20 hoffman
21 jlp
22 ndungane
Choices are to increase potency at lineout for solid 1st phase ball. JLP hasnt impressed regardless of the weather. his primary aim is to take control which he failed to do. Bosman looked slightly more comfortable at 10 against saders.
Would also consider giving vodacom cup full back kobus de kock an opportunity at 15.
Sharks need more than solid and reliable at this stage. solid and reliable wins you curry cups like johan roets but they need something more flash and dynamic
6 Apr 2011, 14:18 pm
@The X-factor is staying at home.(gunther)-106: More like Witney Houston when she was married to Bobby Brown Baaaad
6 Apr 2011, 14:18 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-108: JDJ the next best 13 IMO.
6 Apr 2011, 14:19 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-108: You are correct …. a new Fourie / Mortlock needs to be found at 13 …… Waylon Murray did wonders for you guys at this position
6 Apr 2011, 14:19 pm
@stew(stew)-105: and ruan and barritt
6 Apr 2011, 14:20 pm
@Pick the team in August not March(stormersboy)-111: Maybe. But I think he is the best 12.
6 Apr 2011, 14:20 pm
I think J Smit is faster than Adi at the moment
6 Apr 2011, 14:21 pm
@Pick the team in August not March(stormersboy)-111: Can see this guy disappearing at the Stormers ….. that is one benefit about the NZ system is that a player like JDJ could be loaned to the Sharks where he would get game time – that is what he needs
6 Apr 2011, 14:22 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-113: Barrit is in the England frame now so lost to SA – thank **** for that
6 Apr 2011, 14:23 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-108: You dont reckon JDJ is a quality 13?
6 Apr 2011, 14:24 pm
didnt know **** muir was a swear word on keo
6 Apr 2011, 14:24 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-108:
i agree…sharks centres adi,bosman,swanepoel,terblanche are reliable but arent going to add that extra dimension.
They will make 2 out of 10 mistakes but they wont make more than 2 out of 10 positive go forward contributions.
Where as your new zealand centres will make 5 out of 10 mistakes but they will make 8 out of 10 positive contributions.
SA centres are taught to be reliable so they are conservative.
I view Taute of the lions as following an almost identical path to Mossie.
Lets hope we stop converting all our centres/fullbacks with speed and ability to think and defend into loosies at school boy level
6 Apr 2011, 14:25 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-108:
I reckon he’s a better 13.
6 Apr 2011, 14:26 pm
@stew(stew)-116: Nope!!! no loaning to anyone, S15 is played over 6 freaken months!!!, the final is in July!!!!!, you need all the squad depth you can find.
6 Apr 2011, 14:27 pm
@stew(stew)-112: Letting Murray go was a mistake… Dolf needs a rap over the knuckles for that.
Joubert is not the answer for the Sharks… He has been playing most of his rugger for Clermont at 12. Rougerie has been their 13.
Not sure about Cooke, but we shall see. I prefer Jacobs to Cooke at 13 anyday. But Jacobs has lost top-end speed and his D is not as good as Terreblanche… That been said, having Jacobs at 13 might improve attack in the outside channels for the Sharks.
Its a farking quandary… I tend to agree with SL – wouldn’t mind this Jordaan at 13, but it would be better to bring him through at CC first…
However, Lambie was flung in at the deep end – if you good enough then it doesn’t matter how young… He is proof.
6 Apr 2011, 14:28 pm
@chucky(chucky)-120: What happened to Walter Venter and Thabang Molefe?
6 Apr 2011, 14:28 pm
@chucky(chucky)-120: I see Taute in the Christian Cullen mode – leave him where he is he will be brilliant
6 Apr 2011, 14:29 pm
@chucky(chucky)-120: You have a point about Taute. Great observation.
6 Apr 2011, 14:30 pm
@chucky(chucky)-120: best up and comming 12 in the country is paul jordaan
best 13 is JDJ
taute is also showing great promise be it 15 or 13
6 Apr 2011, 14:30 pm
@XhosaKid(XhosaKid)-122: I hope that the old format of super rugby is reverted to.
and either amalgamate the lions/cheetahs to become one or drop the cheeaths. their line up is not super quality. if you dont have 80% of you squad who can play at the same intensity as the starting xv then you are NOT Super rugby material.
else change the name from super rugby to a new name appropriate for the quality
6 Apr 2011, 14:32 pm
Wonder what happened to Morgan Neuman at the Cheetahs. We laoned him to them and he didn;t even make the team. He was highly touted a year or so ago.
Whitehead?
6 Apr 2011, 14:32 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-123: HG they can play jordaan at 13 , he is according to reports around being the quickest backline player in this country
i say play him with a senior 12 then that he can feed off and a good 10 like lambie
6 Apr 2011, 14:32 pm
@The X-factor is staying at home.(gunther)-121: Might be. Better than most at 13 other than Mossie.
However at 12, especially in combo with Mossie, second to none.
I would give my left ballas to see Lambie, JdJ and Mossie in the midfield… With FdP’s service…
6 Apr 2011, 14:34 pm
Buying Joubert will be a huge mistake – they need YOUNG talent that can develop over a few seasons for the Sharks IMO
6 Apr 2011, 14:34 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-130: At junior level he might be shining at 12, but I reckon long term he looks like a 13… He runs like a bigger version of Conrad Smith.
6 Apr 2011, 14:35 pm
@chucky(chucky)-128: what happened to the very good up and comming 13/15 from the sharks U21′s last year Wynand Pienaar
**** he was very highly rated , but has just dissapeared
6 Apr 2011, 14:35 pm
Positional play at centre is not just about bashing up and speed – what has happened to the skill sets of centres in SA ???
6 Apr 2011, 14:39 pm
@stew(stew)-135: The coaches and fans get caught in this schoolboy coaching mind set…. SA backline coaching on the whole is up the pole, to be honest.
6 Apr 2011, 14:40 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-130: After seeing that youtube clip you put up the otherday. Jordaan looks bloody fast. How old is he now? 19? Age don’t matter really as we saw last year when Lambie played FB in the S14.
We could do with Jordaan right now actually.
6 Apr 2011, 14:41 pm
keep your eye on this lad……..pure class !!
Johann Sadie
Position: Centre
Physical: 1.86m, 95kg
Born: 23 January 1989, Malmesbury
WP Caps: 5
WP Points: 5 (1t)
WP Debut: 2010 vs Border
Stormers Caps: 0
Stormers Points: 0
Stormers Debut: –
Sadie is one of the exciting youngsters making their way through the Province ranks. He featured prominently in the u21 side which won the trophy in 2010, and was part of the victorius Maties team which won the 2010 FNB Varsity Cup. Having also played Vodacom Cup, as well as taken part in the SA IRB Junior World Championships in 2009, Sadie is an exciting prospect for the future and will relish playing Super Rugby.
6 Apr 2011, 14:42 pm
@XhosaKid(XhosaKid)-118: He is a quality backline player. That good enough?
6 Apr 2011, 14:43 pm
@Puma(Puma)-137: I thought Paul Treu has recruited him for the SA Sevens and then got injured or I might be mistaken, I somehow remember seeing being carried off the field during a sevens games
6 Apr 2011, 14:44 pm
Happy birthday Cape Colony!
Long-haired Jan Van Riebs. started you going way back on the 6th of April, 1652, making you 359 years old today.
But sadly look where you are and consider the sorry mess you have created in that interim.
6 Apr 2011, 14:46 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-133: HG and he is a accurate kicker with a big boot too
and yes he can be played at 13
6 Apr 2011, 14:47 pm
i’m interested in the ‘reports doing the rounds that paul jordaan is the quickest backline player in the country’! Maybe if i go to the SARU website they’ll have a report from the High Performance Centre where jordaan would’ve been mesasured.
6 Apr 2011, 14:47 pm
the sharks academy has grounded tyo a halt due to the fact that they can’t stock it with poached cheetahs and lions players anymore.natal rugby was mediocre for 100 years and it looks like that they will find themselves back in that scenario sooner rather than later.it’s a well known fact that they build up the brand by splashing out the money but now that the money is slowly drying up and sponsors deserting them they are on a downward spiral.
6 Apr 2011, 14:48 pm
@XhosaKid(XhosaKid)-140: xhosa , yes this kid did get injured but not a bad injury , was really doing well in the 7′s
6 Apr 2011, 14:48 pm
@XhosaKid(XhosaKid)-140: Yes he did pick up a injury. Not sure where but heard he did.
Looking at the clip with him scoring that blistering try against England. This youngster has it in bucket loads. S_L was totally correct.
I also like Sithole. He has impressed me huge in the 7′s. Now I know he is with the Sharks so is Jordaan. Good for our future those two.
6 Apr 2011, 14:49 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-143: there you go do some homework transie , you know you can do it as ur our copy and paste king
6 Apr 2011, 14:50 pm
@ET.(ET.)-141: Yes, the one province in SA that is properly run and has a decent government.
Higher service delivery, less corruption tah all the rest. Even Vavi thinks so.
But you probably already know that, you are just stirring for a response as usual, which I have just given you.
6 Apr 2011, 14:50 pm
@Puma(Puma)-146: hiyas brudda
yes jordaan is superb and is old enough
sithole is big strong and fast
i am sure he will also come into the reckoning real soon
6 Apr 2011, 14:51 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-145: Put up that addie again with Jordaan’s try, so Transie can take a look… lol.
6 Apr 2011, 14:51 pm
@Puma(Puma)-150: send it and I’ll go have a look
6 Apr 2011, 14:52 pm
With Sadie coming through, Whitehead biding his time and Bosch also available, throw in JDEJ, JDEV and Jaque, Province’s centre stocks look very good indeed !!!, for now and the near future !!
Just need to keep them Sharkies with the Mr Price cheque book away !!!
6 Apr 2011, 14:53 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-149: They both with the Sharks. So that pleases me..lol.
We could do with them now, especially Jordaan. If Lambie could have slotted in last year at the age of 19 so can Jordaan. Lambie though has that bmt. He came in a pressure game last year where we HAD to win. He was superb that day at fb.
6 Apr 2011, 14:55 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-143: ok went ans cheecked what i had typed
was meant to be
130.sharks_lover said:
6 Apr 2011, 14:32 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-123: HG they can play jordaan at 13 , he is according to reports around being the one of quickest backline player in this country
6 Apr 2011, 14:55 pm
@justrugby(justrugby)-152: Paul Bosch and Tim Whitehead?
6 Apr 2011, 14:55 pm
@justrugby(justrugby)-152: WE have a BIG cheque book……..hahahaha.
Actually we will all have to worry about that massive cheque book the Lions have. Feel a bit worried for after the wc. If we all gonna hang onto our players. Lions will come out with their cheque book for sure. You know in this country it seems contracts don’t matter. Seems that way.
6 Apr 2011, 14:57 pm
@justrugby(justrugby)-152: no worries there.we will just box and seal that mr.price cheque book and dhl it to siberia.
6 Apr 2011, 14:57 pm
@Pick the team in August not March(stormersboy)-151: Ask T for it. He put it up a few days back. Not sure of that addie.
6 Apr 2011, 14:58 pm
@Pick the team in August not March(stormersboy)-148:
silly boy.
throw that one back.
6 Apr 2011, 14:58 pm
@Pick the team in August not March(stormersboy)-155:
Not sure of your question boet ?
6 Apr 2011, 14:59 pm
@Lucem Petimus(Lucem Petimus)-157:
6 Apr 2011, 15:00 pm
@Lucem Petimus(Lucem Petimus)-157: hahahahahahaha. Man that was bloody funny. Probably the first post I actually had a laugh by what you have typed. Much better than the fighting spirit you always have. Try humour more, you could be fun and people would enjoy your posts more.
6 Apr 2011, 15:00 pm
@Puma(Puma)-156:
LOL…..This is true…….and very concerning !!
6 Apr 2011, 15:02 pm
@Pick the team in August not March(stormersboy)-155: 2 very good centers at Province!
6 Apr 2011, 15:02 pm
@justrugby(justrugby)-161: snap…hehehe. I had a good laugh at the post as well.
6 Apr 2011, 15:02 pm
Sadly you have lost the happty holiday(cannot use the 3 letter word anymore) and even though Jannie will be saddened by that denial for all his children of Ham he will be more saddened by the non-sensical discussions concerning matters like POC or POV or PC or RAP and so on and so forth all of which was foreign to his jolly or ‘jolling’ times in the shadow of natures mountain.
You all with your bumpers stickers proclaiming you cannot spell r a p e without RAP sicken the old bean who just so loved Maria and the very many of her ilk leaving the Colony enriched with all those kids..
6 Apr 2011, 15:03 pm
puma: i’ve seen paul jordaan play in PE against England, so calm the f*ck down old timer
u’re lapping up everything SL says about jordaan without any knowledge.
Jordaan is sure quick but the ‘quickest backline player in the country’ now that sounds like some Tacitus-like bullsh*t!
this is the problen with you and SL, as soon as a sharks youngster gets noticed, then he is the BEST to you okes, stop hyping the kids.
Sibusiso Sithole is family, so you can’t tell me sh*t about him that i don’t know. Stop hyping them up!
6 Apr 2011, 15:04 pm
@justrugby(justrugby)-163: Yeah, I think the franchise we should all be worried about taking our players is the Lions. They the richest now and have a massive cheque book….lol.
Okay out of here now. Catch up later.
Cheers everyone.
6 Apr 2011, 15:06 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-167: I am calm young timer… I looked at that clip and he was bloody fast. Sliced though the defence at ease…hehe.
Out of here now. Catch up later. Transie.
6 Apr 2011, 15:07 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-167:
I have been very impressed with Sithole in the 7′s ,have never seen him in the 15 man code, but he does look a damn fine prospect, what posistion does he play in the 15 man code ??
6 Apr 2011, 15:13 pm
he plays wing JR, was captain of 1st xv @ Queens College, played SA Academy & Schools, went to Sharks Academy and now 7s…has got relative pace but is explosive & skills set is decent…
6 Apr 2011, 15:15 pm
@justrugby(justrugby)-170: agreed JR
dont worry , old transie wants to be the oke that knows so he trying to quiten us all down
As for sadie i have not seen him play but have also heard this kids some player , hope we get to see him soon
6 Apr 2011, 15:16 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-167: Hawu umfana… Sithole sounds like a good Zulu or Matabele name…. Interesting that amaXhosa to be mixing with makwerekwere… Eish. Maybe thats a good thing… We all know the weakness of amaXhosa…. But surely the honesty quotient will increase if nothing else… “s’bali”
6 Apr 2011, 15:20 pm
@justrugby(justrugby)-160: What about them? Giys like Sadie are very good, but there’s quite a queue in the centre dept at the mo’.
6 Apr 2011, 15:21 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-173: hehehehehehe HG brilliant boet ,had me LOL in the restaurant
6 Apr 2011, 15:22 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-172:
I try to make a plan to get to Newlands early to watch this lad play in the Vodacom side, has not dissapointed me yet !!!
Time will tell if he will go all the way, I personally think he will !!
6 Apr 2011, 15:23 pm
@Pick the team in August not March(stormersboy)-174: hiyas M
6 Apr 2011, 15:23 pm
ok BBL , home time
6 Apr 2011, 15:24 pm
@The X-factor is staying at home.(gunther)-159: I know. Silly silly…
Knew as soon as I pushed the button…..
6 Apr 2011, 15:27 pm
@Pick the team in August not March(stormersboy)-174:
True, he has come through the ranks playing alongside Whitehead and they form a more than useful partnership.
He will have to force his way in based on playing abilty and attitude and appetite whether it be playing or on the training ground.
Whitehead and Bosch ahead in the pecking order for sure, but i don’t think for much longer !!
6 Apr 2011, 15:28 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-177: Hey T. Howzit?
6 Apr 2011, 15:28 pm
@justrugby(justrugby)-176:
yep.
less time in Cubana’s quaffing Shirley Temples with Speedopant
6 Apr 2011, 15:29 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-171:
He is a big unit for a wing, exciting for the future !!!!! height, weight ??
6 Apr 2011, 15:31 pm
@The X-factor is staying at home.(gunther)-182:
Just means that starts even earlier !!
6 Apr 2011, 15:32 pm
It is actually more acceptable to me if the buttons are not activated.
Translates to less time wasted responding to rubbish.
The enunciations standing untouched is the desire, please oblige.
For example I am here to tell you we will never win again(i.e. the RWC).
Untouched it is beautiful.
6 Apr 2011, 15:34 pm
@justrugby(justrugby)-184:
oyveh.
I suppose the best way to watch province play over the years has been with beer goggles.
6 Apr 2011, 15:37 pm
@The X-factor is staying at home.(gunther)-186:
LOL , somtimes…… absolutely !!
6 Apr 2011, 15:41 pm
shark_lover: i’m not trying to quiet anyone…like Tacitus with Hurdles, you sounded like you were claiming Jordaan is the quickest player in the land, i only wanted the veracity of that statement that’s all. If you were to provide it i’d be mightily impressed
some sharks fans here are no different from blue bulls supporters or wp, any youngster that comes from their academy is hyped to the nth degree most time unnecessarily. Jordaan is a good prospect, that’s it a prospect imo!
6 Apr 2011, 15:51 pm
Bet you he’s not as fast as some of our youngsters……
6 Apr 2011, 15:53 pm
he is 1.78m 90kg, but i reckon he’s bulked that up more at 7s…
6 Apr 2011, 15:55 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-190:
Thanks
Geez, he looks bigger than that !!
6 Apr 2011, 16:00 pm
hehehe i know, on tv he looks towering…
Full Name: Sibusiso Sithole
Date of birth: 14 June 1990
Weight: 90kg
Height: 1.78m
Position: Wing
Teams: Sharks
CAREER
Provincial Caps:
Provincial Points: 40
Sharks Absa U21 2010
SA IRB Junior World Championships 2010
Sharks XV Vodacom Cup 2010
Sharks U19 2009
Border U18 Coca Cola week 2008
U18 Elite Squad 2008
SA Schools 2008
Border U16 Coca Cola week 2008
6 Apr 2011, 16:12 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-188:
Sbali,Sbusiso Sithole (JOBE KAMATSHANA!!) looks like a beast in contact & more than decent speed wise.Looks to be the only guy along with Frankie Horne who can run through/past/over the hulking Fijians.
Saw him play for Sharks under 21 last year,scored a double vs Bulls or WP i think.Has excellent skills.His size makes him an interesting option even maybe as a 13.Runs excellent lines.
6 Apr 2011, 16:17 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-192:
Dont think he is 1.78 now(most measurement stem from Craven Week days),because even amongst the Fijians he looks sizeable and they are around 1.90m+….He definitely looks taller than Frankie Horne who is 1.83m
6 Apr 2011, 16:19 pm
Ignored it is beautiful
6 Apr 2011, 16:21 pm
So how is everyone today
Me and the buds are making serious plans for Crusaders Stormers at Newlands.
6 Apr 2011, 16:26 pm
“They’ve lost three on the trot, two of which they would have expected to win against the Chiefs and Stormers”…WTF!!?? were the Sharks expected to win against the Stormers, I thought they were definitely going in as the underdogs???
6 Apr 2011, 16:32 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-196: I’m good Dawn. happy Birthday for Sunday. You have a good day?
6 Apr 2011, 16:37 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-196:
buds?
6 Apr 2011, 16:40 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-196: planned to go to newlands myself but will skip it now.don’t think i can stand 80 minutes of fish smell .
6 Apr 2011, 16:47 pm
@Lucem Petimus(Lucem Petimus)-200: I’m guessing you’ve never been before. You don’t just pitch up and waltz in. They want you to buy a ticket. And short of robbing your taxi passengers, where the fck are you going to scrape together the money and hang onto it long enough to actually buy the ticket without spending it on buttons and a polony roll?
Yes, I’m not sh*tting you – everyone there paid to get in. Well, apart from some people in corporate suites. But let’s face it, this won’t happen to you. Those people actually shower in the mornings and go to work. Worlds apart.
6 Apr 2011, 16:51 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-196: Definitely try to go. Last year’s Crusaders game at Newlands was absolutely epic. Possibly my most memorable game at Newlands. Along with the semi-final, of course.
6 Apr 2011, 16:52 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-201: feeling better now pu ssy?
6 Apr 2011, 16:53 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-201: why do you always racialise everything?
6 Apr 2011, 16:55 pm
sbali sam: 194. He is suprisingly 1.80 and 94kg
6 Apr 2011, 16:55 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-201: “buttons and a polony roll”
Classic!
6 Apr 2011, 16:56 pm
@Lucem Petimus(Lucem Petimus)-204: No, only with you. Why? Because you’re worth it.
6 Apr 2011, 17:01 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-207: i understand white and especially afrikaner males like you fcu k their own sisters to keep it in the family.is it true?
6 Apr 2011, 17:03 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-207: did your granny also fcu k the english tommy boys during the boer war for a few slices of bread?
6 Apr 2011, 17:04 pm
@Lucem Petimus(Lucem Petimus)-208: You gave up the right to make *** jokes when you seduced that poodle.
What? Oh she seduced you? Well that changes everything.
6 Apr 2011, 17:05 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-207: the other day i had a look at some koffiefontein concentration camp pictures featuring some women and children…..it left me cold.
6 Apr 2011, 17:06 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-210: have ever wondered you might be the off-spring of a pommy bread fcu k?
6 Apr 2011, 17:09 pm
@Lucem Petimus(Lucem Petimus)-211: Lol is that your best attempt at being shocking? You just come off as a wannkker. You’e not cool, or hard…you;re just sad and irrelevant and you try way too hard. Get a clue.
6 Apr 2011, 17:09 pm
@Lucem Petimus(Lucem Petimus)-212: Ha ha, it’s so easy to make your true class come crawling from the sewer. Thin veneer, hey?
6 Apr 2011, 17:09 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-210: why the sudden attack on me kakman?it’s only wednesday,still a few days for the lions to lose again.cool your jets now.
6 Apr 2011, 17:10 pm
@Atreides(Atreides)-213: ai those pommies and bread darem.
6 Apr 2011, 17:11 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-214: I think he’s crying, dude
6 Apr 2011, 17:12 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-214: to use a favourite american saying ‘you are nothing but white trailer trash’.go clean that trailer now kakman.
6 Apr 2011, 17:13 pm
@Atreides(Atreides)-217: Can only do him some good.
6 Apr 2011, 17:14 pm
@Lucem Petimus(Lucem Petimus)-218: Watch your accent, bro. It’s showing.
6 Apr 2011, 17:14 pm
@Atreides(Atreides)-217: bwaah.nice one pu ssy.katman is a known racist on this forum and his comments are like water off my back.i am just having fun with the oke.
6 Apr 2011, 17:15 pm
FYI for Stormers supporters, Conrad Jantjes is starting at fullback for the VC side, Lionel @ 10.
6 Apr 2011, 17:17 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-220: you are showing signs of little man syndrome now kakman.behave yourself now and remember that i am your superior now.are you busy cleaning that trailer?
6 Apr 2011, 17:19 pm
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-222: great to see conrad back on a rugby field.he will probably go on tour now.
6 Apr 2011, 17:21 pm
time to grab some polony roll.see you later my buddy kakman.
6 Apr 2011, 17:26 pm
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-222:
Poor Lionel, he must be as confused as a chameleon on a smarty box by now – really gettng shifted around like few others.
6 Apr 2011, 17:29 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-226:
Ja well, apparently he is not rated highly in the Cape…
But given their track record on who they rate and where they end up elsewhere…
6 Apr 2011, 17:30 pm
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-222: Tx M.
Not really been impressed with Conrad this year so far, but he can hopefully play his way into form,.
6 Apr 2011, 17:39 pm
@Pick the team in August not March(stormersboy)-228:
Me too, was quite decent before his injury but I think he is carrying some psychological scars from that very injury.
Does not go in 100% anymore.
6 Apr 2011, 17:52 pm
anyone seen that Cueto eye gouge citing? might miss the WC if they throw the book at him…
6 Apr 2011, 17:55 pm
@fantasticbarnsmell(fantasticbarnsmell)-230: he is not a south african , prolly get off scott free
6 Apr 2011, 18:01 pm
cueto isn’t a dirty player so he should be ok
6 Apr 2011, 18:08 pm
As far as some comments above goes, Lions are in for a smacking. Cannot see the Sharks lose this one, even if they play JLP at 10 again.
6 Apr 2011, 18:11 pm
here’s the vid: www(dot)youtube(dot)com/watch?v=7QYJII6Fh9s
love old Healey saying “there nothing in that at all”
6 Apr 2011, 19:00 pm
TROUBLE in RUGBY PARADISE?
{{ Ichikowitz, meanwhile, accused certain individuals opposed to “transformation” of spreading malicious lies.
“Neither I or Mr Gumede will ever do anything that is in anyway against the interest of the GLRU. We’re very concerned that there is a malicious intent to drive a wedge and damage the very constructive working relationship between ourselves and other boardmemembers (of the union).” }}
6 Apr 2011, 19:19 pm
Some people on this site have no respect for women nor their fellow human beings.
Lucem your fish comment is stereotypical in the extreme and you wonder why people take you on. That really beats me, that you can’t see how wrong it is.
6 Apr 2011, 19:24 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-201:
6 Apr 2011, 19:43 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-236: well dawn you yourself have had to endure the names that scum has called you
6 Apr 2011, 20:36 pm
Is there still a moderator watching from the shadows?
Ig wouldn’t hav put up with half the stuff spewed on here… and this website is all the worse for it.
6 Apr 2011, 20:42 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-239: hiyas spoony
yeah i agree , this is becoming disgraceful
6 Apr 2011, 20:44 pm
chelsea vs united….
The dirty Mancs to cop a big L
6 Apr 2011, 20:46 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-240: Snap. Was just reading through and about to log on. Felt the same. Nothing much has been said about rugby. Years back this would never have been tolerated. Pity.
Was just checking Stuff.co.nz. A very good rugby blog that. Has everything. This used to be but years back. Not so now. Could stil be the best, but they need a moderator here. Many just will not log on when the trouble makers are logged on here.
6 Apr 2011, 20:47 pm
@Puma(Puma)-242: stil = still
6 Apr 2011, 20:49 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-241: Hardly watch the football Tansie. But if I do support Liverpool.
6 Apr 2011, 20:51 pm
football schmootball.
yawn.
6 Apr 2011, 20:52 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-240: You think Lambie will be back for the Canes? Skeate took more than 6 weeks to heal with his finger injury. Also not sure if Deysel will be back this weekend. Probably ease him back from the bench against the Canes. Well think they will.
6 Apr 2011, 20:54 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-245:
Spooner, do you get the late SuperRugby games over there? Or just the morning games when teams are in Nz and Oz?
Does the pubs over there show SuperRugby? I am coming over in less than 5 weeks. Will be over for 5 weeks. So need to know. Don’t want to miss any of the SuperRugby games.
6 Apr 2011, 20:55 pm
@Puma(Puma)-246: puma hiyas bro , yes lambie will be back for canes
deysel wont be back this weekend
prolly also canes match
6 Apr 2011, 20:58 pm
like i said before puma , they need a mute or ignore system which means if there is someone you dont wish to chat with or respond to you right click on their nic and then click on mute
meaning you will not see the person or what they say
6 Apr 2011, 21:01 pm
I AM SO DAMN ANGRY !!!!!
My father in Cape Town a 70 year old man was riding his scooter past some roadworks when 6 black govt vehicles with blue lights (thinks BMW) overtook him, he tried to move over but was blocked by another car unfortunately, 5 went past him. The sixth car pulled over a guy got out and pulled him off his scooter and threw him to the ground, scooter somehow stuffed, need to find out more about that, he is in a bit of shock, he says he is waiting for the DA to phone him back.
What i want to know is, are blue lights not banned in Cape Town now, and will the DA act on this, I will be mailing them, he is to scared to go and lay a charge with out a DA person with him.
What is wrong with this country ???
First my brother gets murdered ine driveway, i get jacked, my husband goes home for his golf clubs at lunchtime for his golf clubs and gets shot at in our own fecking home.
No one should run down those that have left this country for a safer life, most of my family have left because of what s happening, it is a bl**dy disgrace that civil servants filled with their own self importance act in this manner, no wonder they need body guards.
My father has always said CapeTown is so safe and this kind of stuff does not happen there.
Rant over.
6 Apr 2011, 21:02 pm
@Puma(Puma)-247: infact i doubt deysel will be ready for canes match as he has been out 11 months
plum said he will not rush deysel
6 Apr 2011, 21:04 pm
sorry guys , thought the thread was still dead and no one talking. But something has to be said and done about this kind of stuff and people must know.
6 Apr 2011, 21:04 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-249: They need to do that bro. Otherwise this place is getting very quite with really rugby lovers. I remember this time of night during SuperRugby this place was alive with so many bloggers. Had plenty good laughs and was a pleasure to blog this time. Now there seem to be no-one online or just trouble makers. A real pity.
You know that can be done “the mute button” probably the way to go. That way we don’t read what we really don’t care about. But really it is easy done. Just scroll on by. I do that almost all the time to blogger I really don’t care what they say.
Pleased if Lambie is back. We missing him. Hope Deysel can be back off the bench for Canes. Though if it is too soon then rather bring him in later. Cause really don’t want to see him injured again. Felt for him picking up that freak injury. Also we needed him.
6 Apr 2011, 21:07 pm
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-252: Yeah, Agree Hugs. How you doing?
6 Apr 2011, 21:08 pm
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-250: Did he get a registration?
Mail me at stormerskeo@gmail.com
I’m off to gym but if you send me your details I’ll get someone to get hold of you.
6 Apr 2011, 21:09 pm
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-250: Hi Hugger hun so sorry about ur dad
6 Apr 2011, 21:10 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-251: You probably right. Though as hoping. Think we then must ease him in slowly from the next games. 15min a time. Hope he is ready for 60min come the end of the tourney. Just feel good to know he will be back. Then those kinda knee injuries don’t stand up again to this contact sport. Even after surgery. So really hoping for Deysel that all goes well.
What was that players name again that we had during the warm-ups? He was a loosie. Think Sharks messed up by not giving him a contract. Think he has not gone to the Kings.
6 Apr 2011, 21:11 pm
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-252: hugger hun stormer has my email addy , please email me too as i might just beable to help
6 Apr 2011, 21:12 pm
@Puma(Puma)-257: meant – has now gone to the Kings.
6 Apr 2011, 21:18 pm
@Puma(Puma)-259: I brudda you have my cel no , gimme a call some time
6 Apr 2011, 21:19 pm
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-250: Hugs, Had no idea you too had a brother murdered. So sorry to hear that. Also the rest that has happened to your family. Absolutely shocking to hear. Very sorry to hear it. I can understand totally. REALLY no-one EVER can judge people that leave this country. They do because of just that you have said in your post. I am astonished that I am still here and someone like you too.
Really sorry to hear about what has happened to your family. Think we all here have had some truely bad experience. Sad this is happening in our country. People who have left have left because of a reason. Not cause they wanted to go. I will NEVER judge anyone that has left this country.
Don’t worry about your dad, rather just stay calm, they will sort it out or someone here from Cape Town can help you with that information. Well I hope so.
6 Apr 2011, 21:22 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-260: I will bro.
Jeepers feel for Hugs now. Heck not sure what is happening in this country. Not great brudda. I love it here but always think it is time to move out. My daughter is moving to Cape Town next month. Told her to rather just move back to Europe. But she wants to try Cape Town out first. Still South Africa bro, the trouble is everywhere.
6 Apr 2011, 21:23 pm
Anyhow out of here now.
Hugs hope you okay.
Catch up later or tomorrow.
6 Apr 2011, 21:29 pm
@Puma(Puma)-262: agreed bro , i been telling my kids to pack up and go , they wont ,as i wont leave , this is home, but seriously something needs to start happening , but i doubt it to be honest
i been held up at gun point and robbed with other family members on RBay golf course
had 4 men put knives to my throat in field street in durban for my cel phone about 6 years ago
last year in JHB at the MImos i had, we had a armed robbery for the 8th time
the last time 3 robbers were shot and killed in a restaurant full of people by an off duty cop having dinner
thank the lord noone of the staff or clientelle were injured
6 Apr 2011, 21:29 pm
@Puma(Puma)-263: ciao bro tc and chat 2morrow
6 Apr 2011, 21:33 pm
Thank you 255.Pick the team in August not March said:
Just got off the phone with my dad and he said one off Helen Zilles assistants has been speaking with him and keeping in contact and not going the police route but reporting to (cant remember name) some committee or something. I really really appreciate your offer of help. All i wanted to do is get on a plane, get to CT and cause as much shi*t as possible, believe me i am good at that and i really don’t care about repercussions.
Thankyou Sharkie, have told the silly old goat not ride a scooter, but noooooooooo this is Cape Town not Natal he always says.
Puma- 14 year old with a homemade shotgun, point blank, sorry i am still shakeing, but Zille does seem to get things done and it was in peak time traffic so should have lots of witnesses. My dad is who i get my love of rugby and sport from, even though he supports the Stormpies.
6 Apr 2011, 21:34 pm
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-250: That’s disgusting. And he should follow it up – not just with the DA, but with the media too.
Zille banned blue light convoys in the Western Cape that fall under her jurisdiction, but she can’t stop members of the national parliament from using them. So the 6 or 7 car convoys you see around Cape Town are all cabinet ministers and the like who are simply “late for a flight or a meeting”.
After the last incident of assault and intimidation (when the student got arrested for giving the convoy the finger), there was so much outcry that another story like this could actually be instrumental in stopping this self-important bullsh*t and bullying.
I’d recommend a phone call to the Cape Argus, as well as one to 567 Cape Talk, on top of whatever else he plans to do.
6 Apr 2011, 21:36 pm
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-266: hugs i have the leader of another party that eats at my place quite a bit , once you have emailed me i will hopefully get a chance to hand it to him
its not DA though, and i know something like this will anger him bigtime
6 Apr 2011, 21:38 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-267: katman just maybe Keo reads this and gets someone from the newspaper he writes for to do an article too
6 Apr 2011, 21:44 pm
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-266: Sorry to hear that Hugs. Really shocking. Crikey I feel it is time to get out of here. Total madness that goes on in our country. Lawless that gets to me.
Hope you okay Hugs. You been through a lot. You need to move away from your farm. Far to isolated up there.
Go have a big drink of whatever that will help you calm down. Pleased the CT folks helped you here.
6 Apr 2011, 21:51 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-264: Jeez bro, that happened to you on the golf course? Hectic stuff. If I had a knife to my throat would have been out of this country in a second flat.
I am fortunate to live in a very secure estate. But maybe it is just a fools paradise who knows? I love it on this estate one of the best to live on, but one never knows what will happen in the future.
I tell my daughter to stop wasting her time in this country. She has lived in Holland and Scotland before. Has a British and Dutch passport. Also a saffa one. Told her to get the hell out of here. But she loves this country and wants to give it one more try. Going to try Cape Town. Leaving next month for the Cape. Hope it is a far safer place to live. But not so sure. My brother and sister have lived in Cape Town for 30 years. They enjoy it there but have told me of scary stuff that happens there as well. Like I said this is South Africa. It happens everywhere in this country bro no matter where we are.
6 Apr 2011, 21:53 pm
Okay now out of here.
Catch up tomorrow.
6 Apr 2011, 21:56 pm
@Puma(Puma)-271: bro its crazy i tell ya
6 Apr 2011, 21:57 pm
@Puma(Puma)-272: me too tc bro
6 Apr 2011, 22:00 pm
Thank You for the support every one,
Katman that was my plan, going to Cape Town a a causing fecking havoc, but he wants to leave it in the DAs hands and i have to respect his wishes, franky i think he wants me to stay out because no one intimidates me and i would have been very provocative and he worries what would happen to me.
Puma, I will never leave !!!!!! I have responsibilities that i am passionate about, if i was going to leave it would have been the same time as my sister left with her husband and kiddies, I have 2 passports, just cant see the hub braaing or making a potjie in Denmark lololol.
My little home is a fortress, once inside very safe, sleep with 4 dogs inside and 2 on kitchen verander, i rarely leave the property, on for animal reasons as i get nervous in traffic now and in car parks.
ONe has to make choices and adjust, it is that simple.
6 Apr 2011, 22:17 pm
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-275: No problem.. This sort of thing makes everyones’ blood boil. I have a 70 year old dad who also rides his motorbike to work, he won’t retire and refuses to change. We just keep saying a prayer for him.
Katman and Shaks Lover are right. Cape Talk 567 are very good at following these sorts of things up directly,
Katman is right, Zille has banned thise that she has control over. and the law actually states that a blue light may only be used by a police officer (nationally) so if the driver was simply a driver then he’s stepping outside of the law. If it’s a police officer well then sadly he has the right to operate a blue light. What he doesn’t have the right to do is start some sort of demolition derby with all and sundry.
Makes you sick listening to these stories. The lunatics are running the asylum.
Let us know what happens ok?
Grant’s lady is also high up in the DA and this sort of thing is just the thing to get him worked up into a frenzy. If you like and you don;t get anywhere I can get him to contact you.
Let us know ok?
6 Apr 2011, 23:40 pm
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-275: sorry to hear about your dad…hope he is okay.
7 Apr 2011, 02:51 am
Embrace “Tactical Sphere”? That’s an anagram for “Cheats Particle”. It’s also an anagram for “Tactical Herpes”.
What on earth is it supposed to mean?
7 Apr 2011, 07:42 am
sorry to hear about your dads troubles treehugger…..
it is such a pity that the actions of a few can dampen all the good.
I see it has already been brought to the attention of the DA…
well done on that, I would also have gladly brought i to the attention of committed and passionate people who would have ensured this was dragged into the spotlight and action taken.
7 Apr 2011, 08:12 am
@Caper(Caper)-202: Yip that was a great game….i had front row seats on railway…oh and Carter kicked my girlfriend when kicking for touch….b a s t a r d.
7 Apr 2011, 08:19 am
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-250:
I’ve found that gated communities are the safest. Keeps the heathens out and of course the safety in numbers point of view.
It’s an unfortunate fact that the longer the heathens are in power the more drunk they will become with power. It’s ingrained in their genetics…look at Africa as a whole.
We as the minority just have to adapt and survive as best we can. Don’t be afraid to take on the system. If we’ve learnt anything from the present regime, it’s to never be afraid to stand up for what you believe in.
I had problems getting a complaint registered at the Hillcrest Plod Station a few months ago so I went on the net and contacted the bigwigs in Pretoria HQ. It was a very productive move.
Tell your old man to go to the top and start there…the pooh will drift downhill and someone will get back to him.
7 Apr 2011, 08:28 am
@Great White Shark(Predawn)-281: those type of comments are polarising and immature….
7 Apr 2011, 08:45 am
@funkyzoo(funkyzoo)-278: Impressive anagrams, but it’s actually just fancy English for “Sharks must hang on to the ball”.
7 Apr 2011, 08:53 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-283: The cr@p people get up to at 02h00 in the morning…..
Must have been some goooood ****…
7 Apr 2011, 08:58 am
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-250:
Hi Treehugger
Sorry to hear of the incident with your Dad, hope he is recovers quickly and is soon back on his scooter !!!
Good on you for staying in this country after all your ordeals, it takes courage and a passion for this land to do that , says everything about your resolve and character !!!
7 Apr 2011, 08:59 am
@Pick the team in August not March(stormersboy)-284: Actually there’s an online anagram wizard – you type in your word or phrase and it calculates any possible matches. Pretty entertaining, for about 5 minutes.
7 Apr 2011, 09:01 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-286: i see. Must have missed that in all my online p0rn searches…..
7 Apr 2011, 09:04 am
@grant10(grant10)-282:
..says the wannabe Irish freedom e-fighter…
7 Apr 2011, 09:09 am
party politics should not be brought onto a rugby forum.shame on you great white shark for using others pain to spew your racist bile.in any case good luck to th’s dad.
7 Apr 2011, 09:31 am
@Lucem Petimus(Lucem Petimus)-289: Have you already forgotten about your posts 208, 209, 211 and 212? Or do you believe what happens on a TIK binge, stays on a TIK binge? Spineless hypocrite.
7 Apr 2011, 09:51 am
@Lucem Petimus(Lucem Petimus)-289:
shut up maggot.
you are responsible for the most disgusting posts I’ve ever seen here.
you have the emotional intelligence of a beetroot.
give yourself a poesklap.
7 Apr 2011, 10:18 am
It was fascinating, truly touching and frankly quite inspiring to read the posts on the last couple of pages.
This is organic, dynamic proof of why South Africa holds out hope despite its many problems.
It shows that even on a rugby blog you can see why SA is good despite the politicians, police and civil servant idiots who historically pre and post 1994 have always done their best to shoot SA in the foot or score an own goal.
I admire the fathers of TH and Stormerboy – old bloodyminded bugg.ers riding to work on their scooters or motorbikes despite fears for their safety. This in itself is a lesson in normality.
I feel for TH and others like her who have experienced so much tragedy but still love SA despite the obvious sadness and anger that they experience. I truly admire TH and people like her whose responsibilities they need to fulfil override any need to “run” or “hide”.
I honestly salute those on this blog – a farking rugby blog – who upon seeing the distress of a fellow blogger, someone they have probably never met outside of the digital realm, offered to help in any way possible.
Stormerboy
Katman
SharksLover
Grant
The unstinting sympathy of Justrugby and Puma was also quite touching.
You chaps are an incredible credit to yourselves, Keo and the country (and dare I say it – to the Cape. Maybe you okes on the West Coast are alright after all
). Living proof that for all its faults, SA will always be okay.
Why? Because people like you are all over SA. Keo.co.za has just provided a window looking into the soul of SA and it looks good!
Thank you.
Salute.
7 Apr 2011, 10:23 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-292: Apologie for the long post. I was getting rather Emo. Enough of that for the day. Where’s MIni-me so I can have a good bicker with him about his lack of any basic rugby insight whatsoever….
7 Apr 2011, 11:02 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-292:
Geez HG !!!!!!!! , that’s by far your best yet, and very sincere……..I might just start liking you again !!!
7 Apr 2011, 11:04 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-293:
Well maybe not just yet !!
7 Apr 2011, 11:15 am
@The X-factor is staying at home.(gunther)-291: Why thank you fella. As you can imagine, that probably freaked you out too.
Close to home for me. My pop actually fell off his bike about 3 weeks ago, broke his collar bone and 6 ribs. Luckily he was riding on a farm road at the time so no traffic.
Problem is when you are that age anything can be a big problem. And being German, there’s no telling him different. he’ll be fine though, combative bugger that he is.
Normal service I’m sure will resume shortly.
7 Apr 2011, 11:16 am
……
7 Apr 2011, 11:17 am
THIS…..
7 Apr 2011, 11:17 am
IS………
7 Apr 2011, 11:18 am
SPAAAAARTAAAAA!!!!!
7 Apr 2011, 11:18 am
Always wanted to do that properly!
7 Apr 2011, 11:20 am
@justrugby(justrugby)-295: There would be no fun and work stress relief otherwise
7 Apr 2011, 11:26 am
@Pick the team in August not March(stormersboy)-301:
well you sure came in off your long run.
7 Apr 2011, 11:31 am
@Pick the team in August not March(stormersboy)-296: Stubborn old bugg’ers, bless them. They can teach younger generations a thing or two about toughness (Especially if they’re German
)
As You say we can only pray and pick them up when they fall down…. We owe them that at the very least… after all we are products of their glint in the eye a long, long time ago
My Mum, bless her, is coming back to SA. She has been over here for a good few years but she has yearned to return. Not being in SA has actually made her emotionally, and ultimately physically sick.
She views herself as African even though she has the poshest home county accent…. She recently got very outraged that there was no tickable option to classify herself as White African.
Aah well, many lessons to be learnt from the older generation.
7 Apr 2011, 11:35 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-304: That is – no Tickable option on the recent UK Census
7 Apr 2011, 11:36 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-304: ja I must imagine that it must be hard, if it’s in your blood. My pop has to do his annual pilgrimage to Namibia to keep his sanity, this year he was determined to go on his BMW GS. That’s how he fell, on a dry run with a group for a camping weekend.
He’s still going for sure, but we’re gently trying to steer him into driving the support vehicle instead of riding his bike 3000 km’s over gravel roads.
As they say, the brain stays young.
7 Apr 2011, 11:38 am
@Pick the team in August not March(stormersboy)-301: Mirror, mirror on the wall… Who’s the fairest metrosexual ex-hooker of them all
7 Apr 2011, 11:40 am
@Pick the team in August not March(stormersboy)-306: LOL… Tough as nails. Bet he doesn’t need to look in a mirror
7 Apr 2011, 11:41 am
My grandfather was actually killed in a German POW camp. Fell out of his guard tower.
7 Apr 2011, 11:42 am
@Pick the team in August not March(stormersboy)-306:
maybe you can talk the bugger into a sidecar for his motorbike.
should help keep the speed down
7 Apr 2011, 11:43 am
@Great White Shark(Predawn)-309: Lol. Forgot to mention you too Sharkey earlier. Great stuff, man. Best of SA.
7 Apr 2011, 11:45 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-311:
indeed.
scrum of the earth we are.
7 Apr 2011, 11:46 am
@The X-factor is staying at home.(gunther)-310: I wonder if Stormerboy will accompany him in the sidecar. Should be an adrenaline boost…. Maybe throw in a couple of mirrors to overcome the fight or flight instinct….
7 Apr 2011, 11:48 am
@The X-factor is staying at home.(gunther)-312: Scrum of the earth indeed. Classic.
7 Apr 2011, 11:50 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-313:
stomerboy lacks the required navigating skills.
he will replaced by garmin satnav and 4 cases of beer.
7 Apr 2011, 11:50 am
@The X-factor is staying at home.(gunther)-315: LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
7 Apr 2011, 11:53 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-316: Thats done me in…. Colleagues thinking WTF… again….
7 Apr 2011, 11:59 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-308: Yeah yeah, mirrors and all….Spent most of my time on the dreadmill last night watching the Football and the par 3 comp at the masters.
And no sidecars. I thought long and hard about going along on my own with him though.
My pop is so stubbourn I’ve ridden a buch of Argus tours and Knysna Mountain bikes alongside him. His Polar monitor is constantly beeping in the red zone but the bugger won’t slow down.
My wife and I went with my folks to Nam some years ago and did the dune 7 climb. He got to the top before the rest of us by some margin.
we got to the bottom first though. Fark you Newton!
7 Apr 2011, 12:01 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-317:
too much coffee.
7 Apr 2011, 12:10 pm
@The X-factor is staying at home.(gunther)-315: With gear like that I may just have the old man committed and do the ride myself!
7 Apr 2011, 12:13 pm
@Pick the team in August not March(stormersboy)-318: hahaha. Haven’t been to Nam… The Banshee is quite interested in having a holiday there in the next couple of years. Seems like a good option – something very different.
7 Apr 2011, 12:17 pm
@The X-factor is staying at home.(gunther)-319: Yeah, great excuse. Shown a couple of printouts around the office. Chaps don’t get some of the humour but are fascinated with some of the commentary…. Rugby and otherwise.
7 Apr 2011, 12:20 pm
@Pick the team in August not March(stormersboy)-320:
the garmin is essential.
to counter the beer
7 Apr 2011, 12:23 pm
@The X-factor is staying at home.(gunther)-323: Yeah, take a wrong turn and it’ll be hours before you realise you aren’t where you should be…….
The beer is for medicinal purposes of course…..
7 Apr 2011, 12:24 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-322:
sweaty poms.
most of them probably spend their free time pulling wings off flies.
you should take the banshee to Nam.
wide open spaces for not a soul for miles around.
In Nam nobody can hear you scream.
7 Apr 2011, 12:31 pm
touching, touching, the old Sherlock Scandinavian kraut suddenly finding some empty room in his sauerkraut heart for a few reminiscing tears along with his and his Scandinavian great white kraut brethren all getting a wee bitty teary eyed at the notion that they all wanna belatedly be classified as Great White Africans from the Serengeti Plains and get their Caucasian blood and flesh mingled and buried in some blackest African soil, just to get their emotionally charged spiritual juices flowing for old times sake while they sit and reminisce whilst schmoozing up Granny Lizzies skirt and sip G & T on the River Thames.
Oh so touchingly ironical the old sauerkraut heathens calling the indigenous owners of the lands they occupy as heathen, as they clutch fervently to the fading Swastika adorned Iron Crosses of their fallen Heinrich Himmler and Joseph Goebbels heroes.
7 Apr 2011, 12:37 pm
@Pick the team in August not March(stormersboy)-324:
the beer is for hydration.
it also provides trace elements.
a tri-athlete (eating drinking sleeping) like yourself should know this
7 Apr 2011, 12:38 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-321: I’d highly recommend. Safe, sparsely populated in way you’ll never get until you go there (I believe it’s one of the least populous countries in the world), and with some scenery you simply cannot get anywhere else in the world. Literally.
Petrified lakes that are 100′s of years old, abandoned diamond mines in the desert, Wildlife, Breweries.
7 Apr 2011, 12:38 pm
@Pick the team in August not March(stormersboy)-328: Sorry meant to say 1000′s of years old.
7 Apr 2011, 12:44 pm
@The X-factor is staying at home.(gunther)-327: hahaha like the Tri Athlete bit.
Sitting with a major case of tennis elbow at the moment. Feeling like a geriatric.
Hence the alchohol.
7 Apr 2011, 12:44 pm
@sohojo(skopskiet)-326:
are you saying HG is a sour kraut?
7 Apr 2011, 12:54 pm
@sohojo(sohojo)-326: and here I thought SharksLover was the only restauranteer in the room……
7 Apr 2011, 13:07 pm
they all sour krauts that dunno if their flesh and blood is from the credence clear waters of their Nordic ancestry or from the swarthy bosom of Africa, wish these smug faced heathen would make up their good for nothing teary minds.
7 Apr 2011, 13:09 pm
@sohojo(sohojo)-326: Have a beer… and a nice steak…. The red meat (and the beer) will help with that vitamin B deficiency that’s becoming all apparent with your posts….
You might find that it will help with the smelly breath commonly found with vegetarians….
Hopefully you do the steak on a nice half drum braai and with plenty to share with those ZImbo labourers of yours…. Tshh, Tshhhh…. Turn and then Tshhh, Tshh. Cut your hopefully rare piece of meat into nice strips with some coarse salt as a side…. Dip it in and then eat…. Chased by a few slugs of beer…
You may find that you come to peace with your world….along with ingesting some much needed vitamins…
To your health….:
7 Apr 2011, 13:09 pm
@Pick the team in August not March(stormersboy)-332:
the moon is skop’s tactical sphere.
7 Apr 2011, 13:12 pm
@Pick the team in August not March(stormersboy)-328: Breweries is the clincher. Done! Next year then.
7 Apr 2011, 13:12 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-334:
..or a vitamin Bullet…
7 Apr 2011, 13:15 pm
@Great White Shark(Predawn)-337: hehe. Red meat bazooka…
7 Apr 2011, 13:19 pm
@sohojo(sohojo)-333: Here’s some Creedence Clearwaters for you….
You can ponder perpetual motion,
fix your mind on a crystal day,
Always time for a good conversation,
there’s an ear for what you say
Come on the risin’ wind, we’re goin’ up around the bend….
Pretty appropriate, hey…..
7 Apr 2011, 13:20 pm
sour kraut heathens showing exactly what a bunch of teary eyed neanderthal reminiscing barbarian cannibals they actually are, and here they wanna call the gentle folk of Africa heathens when they are the very epitome of heathenish treasonous whitearsed dilly willy nilly trash
7 Apr 2011, 13:24 pm
Tshh, Tshhh. Steak is good for the soul. Tssshhhh…. And beer…. Nothing better…. Plus rugby… and then life is complete.
7 Apr 2011, 13:27 pm
oh how the neanderthal white African gonna see his holy white gat, and he ain’t even begun to realize it yet. Better get back JoJo get back to where you once belonged.
7 Apr 2011, 13:34 pm
adios Mdoda, gotta go pick up the Zimbo’s off Mr. Stanlys roof.
Hamba gathle
7 Apr 2011, 13:38 pm
@sohojo(sohojo)-343:
make sure the wind hasn’t blown them off.
7 Apr 2011, 15:00 pm
Thanks again guys, my dad is fine, says just his hip is not so hip lol.
Heavensgame @292 thank you, and you made me cry, must be a bit emo right now.
Back to rugby, my RWC team
1.Guthro
2.Smit/Bismark
3.Jannie
4.Bakkies
5.Matfield/Bekker
6.Brussow/Schalk
7.Smith/Deysel
8.Spies/Alberts
9.Du Preez
10.Morne
11.Habana/Mvovo
12.Jean
13.Fourie
14.JPP
15.Aplon/Frans Steyn
16.Bismark
17.Beast
18.Rossouw
19.Schalk/Alberts
20.Hougaard
21.Frans Steyn
22.Lambie/De Jongh
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