Reds borrowed Bulls’ blueprint

Reds borrowed Bulls’ blueprint

JON CARDINELLI says the Reds’ tactical triumph on Saturday was similar to the Bulls’ savvy beating of the Stormers in the 2010 Super 14 final.

The Stormers’ problems at the set-piece were once again exposed at the weekend. Discipline was an issue, as I feared it would be, and the Stormers were tactically outkicked by Wallabies halfbacks Will Genia and Quade Cooper.

The game produced one try but it was a captivating contest from start to finish. No team has kicked more than the Reds in 2011, and while they have a reputation for thrilling exploits with ball in hand, they can be devastating when they put ball to boot. This was once again evident on Saturday, as Genia and Cooper took charge.

The Reds knew that it would be difficult to penetrate the Stormers formidable defence – and despite the defeat, the Stormers defence was once again excellent – and so they opted for what has become a popular tactic against the Stormers. If you can’t go through that blue and white wall, you go over it with a kick.

Last year, the Bulls beat the Stormers in the Super 14 final thanks to the kicking accuracy of Fourie du Preez and Morne Steyn. The Bulls forwards were magnificent, but it was the tactical probes and booming garryowens that ultimately unsettled the Stormers’ defenders, and subsequently allowed the Bulls to play their attacking rugby in opposition territory.

The Reds adopted a similar style last Saturday. They tested the Stormers defence early on with a ball-in-hand approach, and when they failed to make ground, they employed the boot. Genia launched several box kicks as well as a few rolling kicks aimed at the corners. Cooper was often positioned at fullback, and his kicks from the back usually found space or dribbled into touch.

Losing the territorial battle was always going to be a problem for a team with a shaky set-piece. The Stormers scrum has blown hot and cold all season, and their lineout accuracy has been poor. They have one of the world’s best lineout exponents in Andries Bekker, as well as quality options in Duane Vermeulen and Schalk Burger, but Deon Fourie continues to struggle with his feed to this set-piece.

In the second half of Saturday’s clash, Fourie failed to find a Stormers jumper when the hosts were camped on their own line. The Stormers were fortunate that the Reds didn’t capitalise on this mistake.

Fourie’s wayward throws are also preventing the Stormers from building continuity on attack. When the Stormers are in promising field positions, they’re not guaranteed a win on their own ball. It’s for this reason that the Stormers management is hoping Tiaan Liebenberg recovers from injury sooner rather than later.

Discipline and accuracy at the breakdown were sorely lacking. The Reds got under the skin of Vermeulen as early as the ninth minute. Frustration got the better of Deon Fourie when he tripped a Reds player in the 67th. Both received yellow cards, and you just don’t win big Super Rugby games when you play 20 minutes with 14 men.

It wasn’t a surprise to see the Stormers finish the match tryless. They battled to take the ball through sufficient phases to trouble the Reds defence, and were often turned over in the tackle.

The Reds decision-makers, usually Genia or Cooper, would then kick the ball into space and send the Stormers back into their own territory. The Reds knew that with Peter Grant’s pop-gun boot, the Stormers would struggle to kick their way out of their own half. They also knew that with the Stormers’ misfiring set-piece and errant breakdown approach, they would also struggle to build a ball-in-hand attack.

The Stormers still boast a great record of six wins in seven matches, but the recent defeat highlighted some ongoing concerns that must be addressed. Their current approach is good enough to get them into a playoff position, but as seen by their tactical failure in the 2010 final, it won’t be good enough to win a title.

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120 Comments

  • 1.TheTackler: Reply to this comment

    Why re-invent the wheel? Copy and improve.

  • 2.Great White Shark: Reply to this comment

    Notice they didn’t try and copy the Crusaders blueprint…no…..they went to the supreme masters….the Bulls…

    The Crusaders may have perfected that 7′s basketball style of rugby to perfection using their Islanders…but it doesn’t seem to interest the Reds much…

  • 3.Olivergm: Reply to this comment

    It may have been an off day for the Stormers but I was not impressed by their lack of motivation. Hardly any of the kicks were chased and only half the lineouts were attacked. The aimless kicking was driving me mad, reminding my of the shite the Boks dished out in 2010…

  • 4.Great White Shark: Reply to this comment

    So a South African wins the US Masters…the third to do so.

  • 5.WOLFMAN21: Reply to this comment

    @Great White Shark(Predawn)-2: It was initially the Crusaders game plan against the Bulls.

    Kick the ball long, and try to keep it infield, limiting the strength of the opposition at the lineout. They won’t counter attack, and will thus either kick a dodgy up and under (although this is unlikely from the 22) or they will try to kick it long and out, thus giving the ball straight back.

    The game plan was particularly effective against the Stormers as neither Habana, nor Grant nor Aplon have a big boot of them, and the game was played at sea level. With the Bulls, Steyn could kick it 60 meters and Matfield could pinch the ball at the lineout. Grant and Aplon could punt it about 40.

    Habana was also shocking – the ball always went to his wing, where he would pick it up, run it at the defence and knock it on. The Stormers were given the ball, but told to go 60-80 meters in order to score a try, and they simply can’t score long distance trys. They also didn’t have the patience to really take it through the phases, and when they did win lineout ball and employed their maul, the Reds would work their way through it to the ball carrier.

    The Stormers, like the Springboks, only have one game plan. If that doesn’t succeed or is countered they have nothing else. South African rugby creates structured robots, who can’t adapt.

  • 6.KevinRack: Reply to this comment

    Copy the bulls blue print. Hahaha what saffa side uses the blockers so effectivley or closes the space at the rucks by putting your player offisdes or maybe grabbing a defenders jumper and pull him out the way so you can run through the gap.

    I wish one of our sides could play smart rubgy instead of bash. We still play Jake White RWC fluke rugby .

  • 7.grant10: Reply to this comment

    stormers were never in it…..genia and cooper outclassed us…..back to the drawing board….lack lustre and devoid of any plan……

    regretfully i can only see either the saders or reds doing the business this year.

    sad but true

  • 8.TheTackler: Reply to this comment

    @Great White Shark(Predawn)-2: You have to be really exceptionally SKILLED to play anything like the Crusaders. The Bulls pattern, by contrast. is as simple and one-dimensional as it gets.

  • 9.WOLFMAN21: Reply to this comment

    @TheTackler(TheTackler)-8: Who is coaching the backs at the Crusaders?

  • 10.Mighty Horua: Reply to this comment

    Reds to borrow their own game plan to run the blou bloed bekke off their feet this coming Saturday

  • 11.Great White Shark: Reply to this comment

    So skilled that the Bools thumped one and all to keep the Super 14 title…

  • 12.Mighty Horua: Reply to this comment

    Any news on Floppie vd Merwe?

    Hope that tackle will deter the Bulls from playing such kaka rugby!

  • 13.Mighty Horua: Reply to this comment

    “Flip van der Merwe must have felt he had struck a flying cannonball when he clashed heads with Owen Franks on Saturday night”

  • 14.Mighty Horua: Reply to this comment

    Having sat on the sideline watching his team-mates for 65 minutes, replacement tighthead prop Franks later admitted the blood was still roaring in his veins as he left the bench and collided with van der Merwe two minutes later.

    “I was pretty frustrated not getting much game time and maybe that was part of it too,” Franks said afterwards.

    “You’re pumped up, you want to make a difference and that’s what it did hopefully,” he said.

  • 15.stew: Reply to this comment

    @WOLFMAN21(WOLFMAN21)-9: Darryl Gibson

  • 16.sharks_lover: Reply to this comment

    @grant10(grant10)-7: oh **** their goes the white flag again :lol:

    mmmmm grant??? and you say puma raises the white flag boet??

    stormers have only lost 1 match and can still lose one or 2 and not be out of it

    so to the sharks are not out of it

  • 17.oscarthedawg: Reply to this comment

    @grant10(grant10)-7: Tend to agree with you Grant. I’m afraid they looked very one-dimensional on Saturday. And this run of wins have papered over the obvious short-comings. Sad but true. Also, missed Jean’s brains I think.

  • 18.Hop Hop Spinnekop: Reply to this comment

    We all have seen this movie before.
    Stormers playing some good rugby and give their fans hope and some fans get wind gat, then lose a gimme game and now AC must go and the ref was an idiot.
    Also in this movie the Crusaders is on top and my Lions on the bottom.
    I hate re-runs.

  • 19.sharks_lover: Reply to this comment

    @Hop Hop Spinnekop(Hop Hop Spinnekop)-18: :lol:

  • 20.justrugby: Reply to this comment

    Well done Charl, watched every shot and the run from holes 15-18 under immense pressure was awe inspiring, “hoendervleis” stuff !!!!! Not a choking bone in his body !!!!!!!

    On the rugby front, Stormers were poor, played the game tactically wrong , while the Reds got it tactically right !!!

    In this competition, if you are 5% off you will be beat , has happened to the Sharks and Bulls 3 times already !!!!

    Bottom line is if you rock up anything less than 100 % focussed iro attitude and game plan and you will be beaten, whether it be the Rebels or the Crusaders you are playing.

    Hopefully that lesson has been learnt this week !!!

  • 21.grant10: Reply to this comment

    @sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-16: SA teams need to get a home semi and a home final to win this tournament.

    Its 1 thing getting a play off spot

    its quite another having to tavel to the saders or reds for a semi or final

    ask the saders….they coulnt manage it

    ask the blues

    No my friend, of course stormers will fight every step of the way, but to go there for a final?

    I know where the clever money will be.

  • 22.grant10: Reply to this comment

    @Hop Hop Spinnekop(Hop Hop Spinnekop)-18: LOL

    Classic

  • 23.grant10: Reply to this comment

    ref had nothing to do with stormers loss

    cooper and genia and a team that tackled as if there lives depended on it were to blame.

    no excuses….we were done fair and square

  • 24.grant10: Reply to this comment

    Is that Mujati fellow available for bok selection?

    Or does he have similar qualification problems that Beast had?

    He is really looking good

  • 25.Roar Loud: Reply to this comment

    WPians don’t give up … it is only halfway through the tournament … give up next week after the coke tin ambush. :grin:

  • 26.stew: Reply to this comment

    @grant10(grant10)-21: At the moment the Saders dont care where they play they are just on top of their game …. Got to admire a team that has not played one home game but is topping the S15 table ….. and MCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCAW returns this week !!!

  • 27.stew: Reply to this comment

    @grant10(grant10)-24: Well he has played for the Boks ????

  • 28.grant10: Reply to this comment

    @stew(stew)-26: a truly remarkable team.

    what i meant was they lost a couple of semis in SA over last 3 years….as did abalues.

    without home ground advantage it is so tough ….

    stormers couldnt even manage the trip to durban or soweto last year, never mind to brisbane or Christchurch!

    Home semi and final was the way for stormers…..no white flag, just a practical observation.

    imo

    outta here

  • 29.stew: Reply to this comment

    Look the earthquake disaster as really galvanished the Saders – they are doing the people of Canterbury proud – amazing feat in this proffesional era .

    Will GH keep the Saders backline intact for the Abs – certainly seems to be working , add in Rene Ranger maybe

  • 30.Panache : Reply to this comment

    Having to sit up until 01H15 on a Monday morning to witness Charl Schwarzel win the US Masters is well worth the continual yawns I am experiencing this morning.

    What a performance from a true sports ambassador of South Africa.

    Flying totally ‘under the radar’ for eleven holes after a birdie and eagle on the first and third holes respectively everyone seemed to forget about him. The commentators hardly commented on him, focusing rather on the better known players. One could sense that the commentators had written him off as a non-contender through holes 4 to 14.

    Only for Charl to strike with long putt birdies on holes 15, 16, 17 and 18 and leave everyone in his wake.

    One of the better golfing wins by any South African and humble and gracious in his win.

    Well done young man!

  • 31.quantum: Reply to this comment

    Stormers didn’t seem up for the game. They always battle to get motivated for games vs Oz sides, this one was no exception. The two huge emotionally draining victories over the last two weeks would have left little in the tank.

  • 32.Panache : Reply to this comment

    Augusta Master’s Race

    South Africa 5
    Australia 0
    New Zealand 0

  • 33.justrugby: Reply to this comment

    @Panache ( òó /) Aplomb(Panache and Aplomb)-32:

    Ain’t that SSCCCCHHHWWWWWWWEEEEETTTT !!!!!

  • 34.NZINCHINA: Reply to this comment

    @Great White Shark(Predawn)-2:

    What islanders are you talking about, the Crusaders crushed the Bulls from 1 to 15 , your boys don’t have the skills to play basketball rugby hence the Stormers scoring 1 try in three outings.

  • 35.brains_trust: Reply to this comment

    Mujati is looking good , the Leiscester v Lienster game was brutal !!! The french ref allowed anything to go without carding or penalising the players.

    The game was 100 times tougher than S15 or local SA derbys. Intense !!!

  • 36.Roar Loud: Reply to this comment

    @Panache ( òó /) Aplomb(Panache and Aplomb)-32: don’t know golf but isn’t it 6?

  • 37.NZINCHINA: Reply to this comment

    @quantum(quantum)-31:

    Any other excuses, fark I’ve never heard so many variations as to why a team loses other than they weren’t good enough, the Crusaders are going to spank the Stormers.

  • 38.Nils: Reply to this comment

    @Great White Shark(Predawn)-2: “The Crusaders may have perfected that 7?s basketball style of rugby to perfection using their Islanders”

    They all are islanders. If you are implying, they use “poached” ones, could you, please, name them?

    Last time I checked, whole Crusaders squad have been born in NZ.

  • 39.Pick the team in August not March: Reply to this comment

    Even though I’m still pretty miffed at how the Stormers “failed to pitch up” on Saturday I must say that watching Charl win that one was a great end to the weekend.

    For a while all we had was Ernie and Goose.
    Now it’s Charl, Trevor and Shrek.
    Bet you Ernie is “green” with envy about not having one of those jackets…..

  • 40.NZINCHINA: Reply to this comment

    @Pick the team in August not March(stormersboy)-39:

    because they aren’t that good, it was nothing to do with pitching up, they can’t score tries against decent teams.

  • 41.Panache : Reply to this comment

    @Roar Loud(RL)-36:

    Gary Player 3 (1961, 1974 & 1978)
    Trevor Immelman 1 (2008)
    Charl Schwarzel 1 (2011)

  • 42.justrugby: Reply to this comment

    @Pick the team in August not March(stormersboy)-39:

    With you on this !!

    Last 3 majors, 2 won by SAFFAS !!

  • 43.The X-factor is staying at home.: Reply to this comment

    Eish.

    Can the bulls have their blueprint back please.

    Suuuuupeeerb win from Charl.

    Blitzed it.

  • 44.Pick the team in August not March: Reply to this comment

    @justrugby(justrugby)-42: And with guys like Tim Clark and Rory Sabbatini also playing up there with the best.

    Who knows? For a small country we do OK.

    5 different players to win a major in the last 15 years.

    I’ll bet that the only other country that can boast that is the USA?

    Can anyone correct me on this?

  • 45.Brigadier Van Zyl: Reply to this comment

    unless the bulls forwards start getting some ball, nothing else matters.

    amazing what can happen in just a few months…the bulls forwards “magnificant” 10 months ago look like a bunch of powderpuffs now.

    what price for the bulls getting a decent win this weekend?

  • 46.sharks_lover: Reply to this comment

    @Pick the team in August not March(stormersboy)-39: Hiyas M , yup great stuff by Charl, glad i stayed up for it too

    @justrugby(justrugby)-42: hiyas JR sorry about the loss boet , get Grant to stop giving up so easy :lol: Stormers and Sharks still well in it, no white flag hoisting please :lol:

  • 47.Brigadier Van Zyl: Reply to this comment

    the reds passing was so crisp on the weekend. no sa teams pass the ball like that

    devilliers was badly missed.

    dejong offered little. couldn’t break the line and passing was poor.

  • 48.sharks_lover: Reply to this comment

    Country

    Masters

    U.S. Open

    The Open

    PGA

    Total

    United States

    56

    80

    42

    79

    257

    Scotland

    1

    12

    41

    0

    54

    England

    3

    6

    21

    0

    30

    South Africa

    4

    5

    9

    2

    20

    Australia

    0

    2

    9

    4

    15

    Jersey

    0

    2

    7

    0

    9

    Spain

    4

    0

    3

    0

    7

    Argentina

    1

    1

    1

    0

    3

    Fiji

    1

    0

    0

    2

    3

    Germany

    2

    0

    0

    1

    3

    Ireland

    0

    0

    2

    1

    3

    Zimbabwe

    0

    0

    1

    2

    3

    New Zealand

    0

    1

    1

    0

    2

    Northern Ireland

    0

    1

    1

    0

    2

    Canada

    1

    0

    0

    0

    1

    France

    0

    0

    1

    0

    1

    South Korea

    0

    0

    0

    1

    1

    Wales

    1

    0

    0

    0

    1

  • 49.justrugby: Reply to this comment

    @sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-46:

    LOL……. we will never surrender !!!

  • 50.Pick the team in August not March: Reply to this comment

    And only 3 guys alive to have taken all 4 majors:

    Tiger Woods
    Jack Nicklaus
    Gary Player

    Not bad for a small country.

  • 51.foreverrugga: Reply to this comment

    This is weird I’m sure I read on keo recently that the Stormers set piece and forwards play were excellent and that they getting the line out right. Now I read their set pieces are shaky and line out are ka@k????

  • 52.justrugby: Reply to this comment

    @Pick the team in August not March(stormersboy)-50:

    Not too shabby nige !!!

  • 53.sharks_lover: Reply to this comment

    @Pick the team in August not March(stormersboy)-50:

    Ben Hogan and Gene Sarazen also won all the majors

  • 54.Kea-Cat: Reply to this comment

    I’m no kicking guru, but on Saterday I was at the game and every time Grant kicked the ball, it sounded as though the ball wasn’t hard enough (that pap ball sound). This to me is a timing problem, which comes from trying to kick the ***** out of the ball. Grant, get your swing right, don’t try moer the ball, and follow through with the boot, get Charl Schwartzell to give you a few leasons dude.

  • 55.sharks_lover: Reply to this comment

    south africans now won 21 majors between them

    only usa, scotland , and england have won more,
    scotland more in the very old days

  • 56.Pick the team in August not March: Reply to this comment

    @justrugby(justrugby)-52: Totally, Bob

    @sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-53: Yes i know that, but are they still alive?

  • 57.justrugby: Reply to this comment

    @Kea-Cat(KEA)-54:

    Ask G10 for help, now there’s an oke who could kick a ball miles ……………..fact !!

  • 58.justrugby: Reply to this comment

    @Pick the team in August not March(stormersboy)-56:
    :)

  • 59.charo: Reply to this comment

    @Pick the team in August not March(stormersboy)-50:

    go easy on the “small country” bit mate.

    it’s like a floundering mullet to the barracouta poopa69.

    he will be here in a flash giving us the “only4millionbutaren’twegreatandpleasetakenoticeofus” routine.

  • 60.Pick the team in August not March: Reply to this comment

    @charo(charo)-59: ;) I can handle Pops. No problem,.

  • 61.sharks_lover: Reply to this comment

    @charo(charo)-59: hiyas charoping ^5 how you doing boet??

  • 62.Kea-Cat: Reply to this comment

    Saterday meant to be Saturday.

  • 63.Kea-Cat: Reply to this comment

    Forgive my spelling today Tackler, what is leasons, and ………..forget it.

  • 64.NZINCHINA: Reply to this comment

    @charo(charo)-59:

    You must have noticed the spanking the Bulls got on Saturday?

  • 65.charo: Reply to this comment

    @sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-61:

    waiting patiently for my flight home :lol:

  • 66.wallabie.: Reply to this comment

    “Reds borrowed Bulls’ blueprint”

    It would seem Jon is finding positives after this weekend!!

  • 67.pompies2: Reply to this comment

    @grant10(grant10)-7: Partly true G10. A few things to come out of the game.

    Superb defensive team effort from the Reds. All the reds did was ask the stormers to attack with ball in hand and they failed miserably at this.

    From what I can see, the stormers attacking strategy is 1 dimensional with no variation in both direction and depth of attack. Is this an indictment on the attack/backline coach or just a general team gameplan. Not one player seemed to take initiative for sparking something inventive. They kept playing to the game plan.

    So this week could be interesting for the Stormers. I suspect it will be another very close game for the Stormers and they’ll probably just sneak it. Going on tour is where things might go pear-shaped. I don’t think the defensive robustness will be enough. At the end of the day, you need to score more points than your opponents, and no amount of defensive ability will change that.

    SO perhaps the stormers should focus on their varying attacking strategies. Time for AC, the head coach, to stand up and show his metal.

  • 68.We are red: Reply to this comment

    @Pick the team in August not March(stormersboy)-56: Lay off the small country stuff. There is over 50 million people. Thats a large country.

    In fact if you prorata the population/golf winns, SA falls down the list exponentially.

    On rugby: Since when did being phisical in defense and kicking well get copyrighted by the Bulls. Prety sure these are fundamentals of the game, not someones blueprint to beat one specific team. Maybe if Genia threw down 50 box kicks in the game that could be said we used the bulls blueprint, but I only remember 1 or 2.

  • 69.Pick the team in August not March: Reply to this comment

    @We are red(Redbull)-68: not wanting to get into a semantics debate.

    Just happy that we are performing well, as i said, probably after USA the only country to have 5 seperate major winners in 15 years.

    And compared to many countries, we are small. This isn’t a South Africa vs Aus/NZ comparison. When I think golf, outside of Greg Norman, I certainly don’t think NZ/Aus.
    Yes i know, Campbell this and someone else that, but this isn;t about you guys, this is about us.

  • 70.The X-factor is staying at home.: Reply to this comment

    @Pick the team in August not March(stormersboy)-69:

    :lol:

  • 71.Pick the team in August not March: Reply to this comment

    @The X-factor is staying at home.(gunther)-70: Never thought I’d get into a debate on size on this site ;)

  • 72.The X-factor is staying at home.: Reply to this comment

    @Pick the team in August not March(stormersboy)-71:

    It sounds like we have another tackler on our hands :lol:

  • 73.sharks_lover: Reply to this comment

    @The X-factor is staying at home.(gunther)-72: i learnt to ignore him on the first day he posted here already

  • 74.Pick the team in August not March: Reply to this comment

    @The X-factor is staying at home.(gunther)-72: I hope not. ;)

  • 75.Pick the team in August not March: Reply to this comment

    My country is smaller than yours… :D

  • 76.Puma: Reply to this comment

    CONGRATS TO CHARL SCWHARTZEL…. one word. BRILLIANT.

    South Afrcans have now won the Masters 3 times. Feel so proud today.

    The Aussies were all there but Charl stayed cool. Great win that. No Aussie has ever won the Masters yet there we have 3 saffas that have. Feels awesome.

  • 77.Pick the team in August not March: Reply to this comment

    On the golf:

    Eight players had at least a share of the lead at some point during the back nine on Sunday.

    Now that’s a sporting contest down to the wire.

    Poor old Rory.

    Move over Jean Van der Velde.
    Move over Greg Norman,

    There’s a new choker in town.

    Actually I really feel for him. Watching him unravel like that was really awkward. I’m glad Charl won, but sad to see a good 3 & 1/2 rounds go to nought.

  • 78.The X-factor is staying at home.: Reply to this comment

    @Pick the team in August not March(stormersboy)-75:

    you mean your country is smaller than it looks?

  • 79.sharks_lover: Reply to this comment

    @Puma(Puma)-76: gm brudda , so we got our wish lol

    i was laying in bed watching and i said to the wife , this was on the 12th when he made that par save , if only he can get2 birdies he should win, little did i know that when he got that birdie on the 15th the shackles would break and he went crazy from there with all that pressure to birdie the rest of the holes

  • 80.Puma: Reply to this comment

    The most arrogant thing I heard from the commentator during the golf last night was “Charl will remember his 7seconds leading the Masters”………..hahahahahahahaha. Hope that idiot feels just that a idiot today. Cause Charl went on to win the tourney…lol.

  • 81.Puma: Reply to this comment

    @Puma(Puma)-80: Think Charl was on the 15th then. Can’t remember. But what a thing to say. Felt even extra special that Charl won it after hearing that.

  • 82.Puma: Reply to this comment

    @sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-79: Was just brilliant.

    Man remember Stormerboy say “Fists to the moon” the otherday. (love that saying…hehe) I was doing just that……hahahahaha. Especially after hearing that commentator say “Charl will always remember his 7 seconds of leading the Masters” He went onto win it….hehehehe. I had fists to the moon for sure……..hahahahahaha.

  • 83.Puma: Reply to this comment

    @sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-79: Now that is BMT. A top class sportman needs it no matter which sport he plays.

    His last putt impressed me the most. That was sweet!!!

  • 84.sharks_lover: Reply to this comment

    @Puma(Puma)-83: actually his 2nd nine impressed me to no end

    the pressure of a major is huge and we saw what it did to poor rory , he broke

    Tiger even struggled as did the korean and argy

  • 85.sharks_lover: Reply to this comment

    @Puma(Puma)-83: lol that little thing called BMT and so many in here dont understand :lol:

  • 86.Pick the team in August not March: Reply to this comment

    @Puma(Puma)-83: Yeah mate that was sweet. I have a good mate who always puts some money on the long shot south Africans at the majors, Won a quick 6 grand last night,

    Then he did pretty well out of Trevor and Loius too,…

    Shaking our fists at the moon mate! Long may it continue!

  • 87.sharks_lover: Reply to this comment

    @Puma(Puma)-82: what also pissed me off , was everytime tiger missed a put the yank commentator made some stupid comment about maybe somthing bugged tiger or the player player with him took too long on his shot

    **** man , he is responsible for his own shots be they good of bad, and i have no doubt he would be the first to admit that

  • 88.sharks_lover: Reply to this comment

    @Pick the team in August not March(stormersboy)-86: lol M of the ARK :lol:

  • 89.Pick the team in August not March: Reply to this comment

    @sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-84: have you read a book called The Majors, by John feinstein? he takes you through the 1997 season with the 4 majors, gives you some insights into the players and history, and it comes out very strongly the “gravitas” that the Masters particularly has the psyche of the golfer. If you’re an American it’s the most important of the bunch with all it’s history,

    Highly reccomended reading, Lots of personal insights into guys like Tiger and Mickelson. Lots of good stories too.

  • 90.Puma: Reply to this comment

    @sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-84: Agree he played well on the 2nd nine, need bmt for that. Nerves of steel. Rory fell totally apart. Never thought that would happen. Felt a bit for him. But of course was really rooting for Charl. Anyhow hope Rory gets over it. Needs to put that out his mind otherwise he will never win major.

    Felt awesome to see Charl put on that Green Jacket. Felt so proud. South Africans have done well at the Masters. Pity Ernie had not won it. Can’t ever see him win it now.

  • 91.Puma: Reply to this comment

    So last year, Louis Oosthuizen won the British Open and this year we have Charl winning the Masters. Just awesome. What a great feeling. Those two majors for me are the two most prestigious to win out of all the majors.

    Open the biggest the Masters the 2nd biggest imo. South Africa won them in a row….lol. Brilliant.

  • 92.Puma: Reply to this comment

    @Puma(Puma)-91: Meant – South Africans. Forgot the ‘s’ there..hehe

  • 93.Pick the team in August not March: Reply to this comment

    @sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-87: Another case of Tiger not being able to win if he’s not leading into the final day.

  • 94.We are red: Reply to this comment

    Zzzzzzz… wake me up when you stop talking about golf. Can we get back to the reds demolition of the pretenders on the weekend.

  • 95.Puma: Reply to this comment

    @sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-87: Yes that got to me too. Always a excuse for Tiger. But that comment about ‘Charl will always remember his 7 seconds leading the Masters’ ANGERED me no end. Felt so angry after he said that. Then for him to win it. I was jumping up and down. Like M says. Fists to the moon…….hahahaha. To that commentator that is. Felt great.

  • 96.Puma: Reply to this comment

    @We are red(Redbull)-94: Who cares about the rugby right now. Our Charl won one of Golfs biggest prizes. Something to be really proud of mate.

  • 97.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment

    @Puma(Puma)-80: LOL. Classic!

  • 98.Puma: Reply to this comment

    @We are red(Redbull)-94: I take it you a Aussie? Well done to your Reds then.

  • 99.Pick the team in August not March: Reply to this comment

    @Puma(Puma)-96: After The (British) Open it has to be the next biggest surely?

  • 100.Puma: Reply to this comment

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-97: hehehehe. Howzit HG. I stole that saying from Stormerboy..hehe. Was awesome to see Charl win it last night.

  • 101.Puma: Reply to this comment

    @Pick the team in August not March(stormersboy)-99: Absolutely. Said it in my post 91. I just say Open. But meant British Open.

  • 102.Pick the team in August not March: Reply to this comment

    @Puma(Puma)-100: Yeah it’s hardly original on my side either, must have heard it somewhere, in a song or a story, or maybe a poem.

    Us Stormers fans have become quite accustomed to that sort of thing, defiance in the face of inevitability. Character building stuff.

  • 103.Pick the team in August not March: Reply to this comment

    @Puma(Puma)-101: Yes, it’s just “The Open”, but I don’t always assume that people know what I’m talking about. It’s like “The Masters”, and not the “US” Masters.

    I won’t assume going forward, you clearly know your stuff. :)

  • 104.Puma: Reply to this comment

    @Pick the team in August not March(stormersboy)-102: Yeah, had a laugh when you said it, but loved that saying.

  • 105.Pick the team in August not March: Reply to this comment

    An Open win at St Andrews has to be the cream of the crop for any golfer. Doesn;t get any better than that.

    Although the membership at Augusta that comes with being a Masters Winner is pretty sweet too……

  • 106.Puma: Reply to this comment

    @Pick the team in August not March(stormersboy)-105: That is the absolute. Nothing beats that. So for Oosthuized to win there it was extra special.

    You know with our great golfers in SA. I would just really enjoy it if we had something like the Ryder Cup. Which as you know is Europe against America. SA against the Americans. Now that would be interesting to see how we go in something like that. I know there is the Presidents Cup but that is from all countries against America.

  • 107.Puma: Reply to this comment

    @Pick the team in August not March(stormersboy)-105: Think we hijacked this thread to golf……hahahaha. Not too worried cause Charl winning the Masters is something really special for us Saffas.

  • 108.Puma: Reply to this comment

    Anyhow work calls. Better get on with it.

    Catch up later.

  • 109.sharks_lover: Reply to this comment

    @Puma(Puma)-107: no harm in chatting some golf puma , dont feel bad at all , 75% of the time there are people talking **** and politics , so some golf is refreshing

  • 110.Pick the team in August not March: Reply to this comment

    @Puma(Puma)-108: Later mate. Special indeed.

  • 111.Pick the team in August not March: Reply to this comment

    @sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-109: Yes better than calling each other names as we do sometimes.

    If you’re not a golf fan, it’s hard to imagine just how big this is. As Puma said, I’m sure Ernie would give his left testicle to have a green jacket.

  • 112.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment

    @Puma(Puma)-100: Not a Golf fan, but was amazed to see him win this morning on the news… All the talk here was about McIlroy and whether he could stave off Woods…

    Big snot en trane over here now about McIlroy… Hardly any coverage about the actual winner… But it is a lovely thing to see… Just waiting for the customary whingeing to start…

  • 113.Pick the team in August not March: Reply to this comment

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-112: LOL yes talk about a major implosion!

    Poor b@stard. Until (if) he wins it again he’s going to be known as the guy that shot 80 on the final round of the Masters to blow a 4 shot lead.

    Tiger who?

    :D

  • 114.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment

    @Pick the team in August not March(stormersboy)-113: Yeah bug.ger… Good for you Golf fans… Must have been awesome to watch this relatively little known “yarpie” win the tournament over all the “big names”…

    Its funny hearing the attempts at pronunciation of “Charl” – as in similar to a shortened version of “Charlie”, not the appropriate “Sharl”…

    .

  • 115.Pick the team in August not March: Reply to this comment

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-114: Yip. Was sweet. worth the red eyes this morning.

    Commentators are so far up Tiger’s a ss it’s embarrasing. If it’s not him then it’s Mickelson.

    We have Trevor, Louis and now Charl.

    Sweet, especially after the kuk weekend I had, sporting wise.

  • 116.The X-factor is staying at home.: Reply to this comment

    @Pick the team in August not March(stormersboy)-115:

    red eyes?

    you had a spliff to celebrate?

    me too.

  • 117.Markel77: Reply to this comment

    ¡¡¡Congratulations South Africans!!!! well done Charl!! Tiger who?

  • 118.The X-factor is staying at home.: Reply to this comment

    poor tiger.

    and he put his yacht on the market this week.

  • 119.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment

    @Pick the team in August not March(stormersboy)-115: Its a pity the Presidents Cup is not as feted as the Ryder Cup….

    There would be a few decent Saffers in that team who could take on the best of the States or Europe.

  • 120.Pick the team in August not March: Reply to this comment

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-119: Yes indeed, I remember the one at fancourt well. Was there. Nice to see the Tigers and the like.

    Doesn’t have the same “aura” (looking around nervously) as the ryder though as you say….

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