Comments on: Smit must prop up Bok bench

By: TheTackler(TheTackler)

TheTackler(TheTackler) — Fri, 22 Apr 2011 03:22:47 +0000

@jacob(jacob)-375: You're not in a good position if your experienced players are over the hill and your inexperienced players have only played a series of five-minute cameos. Well, let's amend that : you're in an excellent position to commit rugby suicide, but you're in a dreadful position to contend for a world cup. Hope is all you've got. Same as Namibia.

By: jacob(jacob)

jacob(jacob) — Thu, 21 Apr 2011 22:03:20 +0000

Reading everyone's comments makes me see things in many different ways. The whole experienced versus too old situation can be pretty tricky. If we only send the young ones to the Rugby World Cup and don't make it past the quarter finals, we'll think we should have used the experienced players more. But the flip side is true too. If we really think about it, we are in a good position. We have some of the most experienced players in the world as well as some of the most talented. We stand a very good chance to win the world cup again. The coach, management and senior players have to make hard decisions and be true to the team and themselves. I think the answer lies in putting the teams best change to win first in every decision and cancel out everything else. We can only hope. Go Springboks!

By: DontThinkJustWonder(DontThinkJustWonder)

DontThinkJustWonder(DontThinkJustWonder) — Fri, 15 Apr 2011 10:00:26 +0000

“Matfield is the natural successor”. Huh??
1) He’s unlikely to be around for bokke after this season.
2) He only looks like a good captain in a winning team. But a winning team doen’t need a captain, everyone just does their job. In a losing team Victor as captain is a sulky petulant pratt. We haven’t seen it often cos he hasn’t often skippered a losing team. But he has been consistent.

There are no other obvious choices. Neither Jean nor Schalk have impressed as leaders. Fourie is like Matfield in spades. Any other offers?

So Plod must travel as captain from the bench. Not ideal but he’ll be on the field for the vital last 20 min.

By: bryce_in_oz(bryce_in_oz)

bryce_in_oz(bryce_in_oz) — Fri, 15 Apr 2011 02:59:03 +0000

“If not as captain and 1st choice hooker, then he has to be dropped and watch on tele like the rest of us.”

What a crock of shite… Smit off the bench for the Boks offers more than any other front-rower in RSA…

By: BokiNZ(BokiNZ)

BokiNZ(BokiNZ) — Fri, 15 Apr 2011 02:25:33 +0000

@grant10(grant10)-371: In essence what I'm saying mate. If Smit is going to the WC, it has got to be as the leader...period. Front and center. If not as captain and 1st choice hooker, then he has to be dropped and watch on tele like the rest of us. I feel Smit can still lead this side from the front, but to get there he needs to play. And prop is not it. He'll never be a 1st choice prop but he could/should be 1st choice hooker. When the international season comes round, it will be too late. Now is the time. Plum needs to reconsider

By: grant10(grant10)

grant10(grant10) — Thu, 14 Apr 2011 06:58:24 +0000

@BokiNZ(BokiNZ)-370: ja k ak idea. just drop the oke and send him to supersport as a commentator.

By: BokiNZ(BokiNZ)

BokiNZ(BokiNZ) — Thu, 14 Apr 2011 06:48:33 +0000

Am I the only one who thinks this is a bad idea? Didn’t read thru all the posts but this confusion needs to stop. If Smit is goint to be there, he needs to be there, front and center! The team needs 1 leader and that’s the captain. A captain should never be substituted either, unless injured of course, but what JC is suggesting can only fck up the works even more

By: mshiniwami(mshiniwami)

mshiniwami(mshiniwami) — Wed, 13 Apr 2011 13:43:46 +0000

@chucky(chucky)-70:

A few changes IMO

Probable bok squad for RWC

15. Francois Steyn / Gio Aplon.
14. J.P. Pieterson .
13. Jacques Fourie / Juan De Jongh
12. Jean De Villiers
11. Bryan Habana / Lwazi Mvovo.
10. * Morne Steyn / Butch James/Pat Lambie
9. Fourie Du Preez / Ruan Pienaar/F.Hougaard
8. * Pierre Spies
7. Juan Smith / Willem Alberts
6. Schalk Burger / Heinrich Brussow
5. Victor Matfield (vc) / Andries Bekker.
4. Bakkies Botha / Danie Rossouw.
3. Jannie Du Plessis / CJ van der Linde
2. John Smit (c) / Bismark Du Plessis / ChilliBoy Ralapelle
1. John Smit / Beast Mtawarira / Gurthro Steenkamp

Ryan Kankowski will miss out due to both Willem Alberts & Rossouw can cover 8.No need for a second specialist 8 (Frans Louw more realistic an option to sneak in as second specialist fetcher)

BJ Botha a will not make RWC,hasnt been in squad for a bit.CJ van der Linde has more of a chance at reserve TH.

Wynand Olivier wont make RWC squad.Juan De Jongh covers both 12/13 plus also Frans Steyn also an option at 12 thus no need for another specialist 12.(Butch & Lambie also can play at 12)

This is a 30 man squad.Thats is too big at least by 2 players.usually its a 28 man squad…Rallapelle might miss out as they may choose to go with 2 hookers rather than 3 and last place is between Lambie/Pienaar/Mvovo.

Mvovo-limited becasue he only plays wing (both Aplon & Hougaard cover wing as well)
Pienaar/Lambie-utility tag is only suitable for largely 1 player in team.And both of them fill this quota.One may have to go.

Take your pic

By: Heavens Game(Heavens Game)

Heavens Game(Heavens Game) — Wed, 13 Apr 2011 12:24:49 +0000

Oh Captain my Captain…!

By: KevinRack(KevinRack)

KevinRack(KevinRack) — Wed, 13 Apr 2011 06:52:21 +0000

Smit must prop up Bok bench but not actually play on the Bok bench???

By: sharks_lover(sharks_lover)

sharks_lover(sharks_lover) — Tue, 12 Apr 2011 20:13:12 +0000

@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-365: did they allow tacci to put in 3700 votes???

By: wooden spoon(wooden spoon)

wooden spoon(wooden spoon) — Tue, 12 Apr 2011 19:26:33 +0000

I have said many times before that the polls here are a bit whacked… something wrong with the system that allows the voting options to be displayed in the order of results…

Anyway, I don’t believe this one:

After eight rounds, who’s your favourite to win the SA conference?
Bulls
3742
Sharks
324
Stormers
287
Total Votes: 4353
Started: April 11, 2011

By: Treehugger(Treehugger)

Treehugger(Treehugger) — Tue, 12 Apr 2011 17:57:23 +0000

@PissAnt(PissAnt)-329: That is amazing !!!!

HAAA !!! read and weep boys.

But then again i started brilliantly on super bru as well then took a massive nose dive when the heart took over from the brain, i just cant maintain with the brain choices, the heart just takes over and i convince myself its the brain

Hope you found that Cape Velvet recipe ?? need it before the next SHARKS stormers game

By: Jeez(Jeez)

Jeez(Jeez) — Tue, 12 Apr 2011 17:40:26 +0000

O and Du Preez, but lets hope he can regain form. He was out for a long time, so hopefully he’s just still rusty..

By: Jeez(Jeez)

Jeez(Jeez) — Tue, 12 Apr 2011 17:38:38 +0000

If you look at the SA teams and the amount of boks in each of the sides, its quite shocking and scary knowing that at least 4 Bull-boks will make the bok team. Matfield, Botha, Spies, Steyn, Kirchner,Olivier (K & O probably on the bench) The Cheetahs at this point look more competitive than the Bulls and the only bok in their team at the moment is Floors. At least he’s a hasbeen who doesn’t feature in the bok setup anymore.

By: kevin w(kevin w)

kevin w(kevin w) — Tue, 12 Apr 2011 17:22:03 +0000

@JR – The Real Make The Circle Bigger(JayDaFiveOh)-351: You are sooo right … i mean look at NZ – Conrad smith, Nonu, Donald, Muiliana are in sublime form, Canes and Chiefs wiping everyone before them. And then those NZ teams with their great lineouts, absollutely dominating the competition … lets not even get to the Aussies – I mean Giteau and the Brumbies dazzling their way to victory after victory and the Tahs man … absolutely sublime

By: JR - The Real Make The Circle Bigger(JayDaFiveOh)

JR - The Real Make The Circle Bigger(JayDaFiveOh) — Tue, 12 Apr 2011 16:38:32 +0000

@Jeez(Jeez)-358: I would also add Sykes even if he is going off to Ulster next year. This is the RWC year. We'll worry about replacing him next year.

By: carol(carol)

carol(carol) — Tue, 12 Apr 2011 15:16:41 +0000

@The X-factor is staying at home.(gunther)-357:
Body parts sound a bit CSI….!!!

By: Jeez(Jeez)

Jeez(Jeez) — Tue, 12 Apr 2011 15:12:50 +0000

Jannie
Bismark
Beast
Rossouw
Bekker
Burger
Alberts
Smith(if fit)/Brussow

Du Preez(if he regains his form)/ Mc Cloud/ Hougard (with limited gametime not really an option)
Grant/Lambie
Peterson
Jean
Fourie
Aplon
Steyn

By: The X-factor is staying at home.(gunther)

The X-factor is staying at home.(gunther) — Tue, 12 Apr 2011 15:08:05 +0000

@carol(carol)-354: yes indeed we will. it shall be called "girls of many nations" category. there will be prizes for those who write Gunther on their body parts when posing.