And as for Jake, Jake selected Butch in 2006 you idiots. He even noted long before Jones that butch would always have been his first choice 10, but Butch literally played NO rugby in 2004 and 2005 as he had knee reconstruction and failed comebacks, and got injured again in 2006. Think before you post, not eveyone is as limited in their memory as you are! I remember what happened all those years ago.

What you also failed to note is that de Villiers resorted to 10 man rugby as a result of pressure, as his non-existant gameplan for an enterprising game failed spectacularly in one of the worst and disgraceful campaigns we’ev ever had in 08. That limited game worked in 09 when Plumtree addressed our breakdown woes, and that was enough to get us through the TNs of that year, but failed in the conditions of the NH. Now de Villier’s is left with more problems, as seen by his frantic search for someone to help him do his job again last year, that he has real coaching to do, but has no idea what he his doing (his own words, twice, in front of the NZ media). So he wants to stick with the model that worked in 09 even though the laws have changed, even though it requires some ability ball in hand. He was so ignorant as to say that the England test last year was the model for the WC and a step forward, even though it was identical to the tripe in the TNs! You want to identify our problems, then there it is. Until then, get real and sober up.

No individual has ever been enough to compensate for our shortcomings under this un-coaching trio, with the only exception being Brussow. You pick at Morne, but fail to see that the structures in place are either nonexistant (defence) or are so woefully inadequate that it may as well be straight from the 80s.

you must be quite young.

or naive

aura

what’s up with that?

if SA had an attacking first five, aura decent tighthead aura centre who could pass, then perhaps the bokke would have an aura

eish.

Actually I would prefer Chinese immigrants to come to NZ over your type any day of the week.

Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum are putting a Bok team together to contest and defend the WC in NZ, I reckon see no evil monkeesee and hear no evil monkeedo are gonna be hoping like hell that somebody up there likes them as much as that same somebody liked the last lucky packet coach who never met any team worthy of contesting the final above rank 6 in the IRB rankings.

” ……. and we can win it. Stormers aren’t doing too badly with a similar game plan or am I wrong? ”

If you are placing any or a lttle emphasis on the Stormers’ gameplan and results then surely you are wrong.

Stormers have played and beaten all 4 of their Conference challengers who play a similar or modified version of that gameplan. Those wins were not convincing and all of the local opposition were still in with a win at about 70mins. of those games.

They have played only 2 non-local teams and at Newlands and convincingly beat the woeful Force and lost badly to the exquisite Reds who played the Stormers’ type of game(catching them totally offguard) but infinitely better.

There are many other factors why the ‘Boks will not be successful defenders of their crown but that is not for discussion now.