Baby-faced assassin
19 Apr 2011
South Africa’s great prodigy continues to exceed expectations.
In October 2010, SA Rugby magazine hailed the arrival of a special talent. Pat Lambie exhibited all the attributes of a match-winning flyhalf, although at the time of writing, he was yet to substantiate the speculation; he was yet to take control. That article was written about a promising teenager, and few could have predicted the accelerated metamorphosis he would undergo in the next five months.
Lambie has ascended; he has begun to spread his wings.
In the new issue of SA Rugby magazine, we speak with Lambie’s kicking coach, former Bok flyhalf Braam van Straaten, about the work they’ve put in to the youngster’s game. Sharks backline coach Grant Bashford also talks about Lambie’s progress in recent months and why he’s such a special player.
Also in the new issue:
– Willem Alberts‘ physicality allows him to get over the advantage line regularly and hurt players in the tackle, but he also has an impressive skill set
– Waylon Murray is rebuilding his life one game at a time
– Andries Bekker has taken his game to a whole new level
– Rookie Super Rugby coach Jamie Joseph has turned New Zealand’s weakest franchise into a competitive unit
– At the end of this season, Adam Ashley-Cooper will leave his ‘family’ in Canberra to join his girlfriend in Sydney
– South African Super Rugby franchises like the Sharks and Stormers should consider playing one home game at Twickenham every year
– Bunker Capital’s involvement with the SWD Eagles was supposed to transform the game in the region. SA Rugby magazine finds out what went wrong
– The Cheetahs’ Super Rugby future rests on Saru’s capacity to find a workable solution to a very complex problem
– The Vodacom Cup still has a very important role to play in South African rugby
– Former France tighthead prop Pieter de Villiers on coaching in Cape Town, the Bok front row and why the All Blacks scrum is the best
– The Baby Boks are selecting bigger players in a bid to win the Junior World Championship in June
– Former Sharks prop Eduard Coetzee has embraced Basque culture and made Biarritz his home
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138 Comments
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19 Apr 2011, 06:40 am
Underachieved pretty badly on his debut EOYT…
19 Apr 2011, 06:52 am
the shorks and stammers should play a game at twickers EACH year?
eish, not like we haven’t heard enough about the travel disadvantage already.
a myth the reds have dispelled not only this past weekend but last year as well. perhaps it’s just a Saffa affliction??
19 Apr 2011, 07:01 am
Some mug punters getting far too ahead of themselves with Pat… the guy has had some sublime moments, some average… but has been injured for almost half the current Super Rugby games and has not faced the top tier teams yet… this from a Shark’s fan…
CC rugby is no Bok barometer as has been proven year in and out in the past…
19 Apr 2011, 07:12 am
Lamb to the slaughter.
19 Apr 2011, 07:21 am
Lambie is the saviour of SA Rugby!
the sacrificial lamb, Go Lambie!
19 Apr 2011, 07:24 am
“Baby -faced assassin” – “Lambie has ascended; he has begun to spread his wings”.
Please, why so dramatic, it is still very early days, the bloke dont need this hype right now.
On the other hand, the heading and text will at least ensure that a few Shark fans on this site will be daydreaming (or worse) all day long.
19 Apr 2011, 07:27 am
‘Former France tighthead prop Pieter de Villiers on coaching in Cape Town, the Bok front row and why the All Blacks scrum is the best‘ – really Pieter, is the AB scrum the BEST? Hehehe, i know robbie deans has other ideas on it
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19 Apr 2011, 07:27 am
Wait for Vrede to write an article saying Lambie will single-handedly win the world cup for the Boks!
19 Apr 2011, 07:30 am
@TheTackler(TheTackler)-1: So was Carter on debut at flyhalf and in a certain test at Newlands in 2005.
19 Apr 2011, 07:31 am
Bambie is the real deal. He is no Dan but his play under pressure is awesome and his reading of the game is good. Great technique too.
We are always looking for the next best hero and many here will shoot some one down for many reasons.
19 Apr 2011, 07:33 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-2: your trolling and hate for saffas is sad affliction of your mind.
It must be lonely in there? Maybe you should team up with the even bigger looser Tockles.
19 Apr 2011, 07:36 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-7: Look at the Crusaders scrum and how they demolished the sharks (sorry the bok front row ) – i dont think he is far off
19 Apr 2011, 07:38 am
@stew(stew)-12: thats only when Smit was scrumming, once Beast came on it stablised.
We need to look at one Lions and 1 Cheetahs prop.
19 Apr 2011, 07:39 am
@stew(stew)-12: The best scrummaging teams are all North of the Equator, the problem is that’s pretty much all they can do.
19 Apr 2011, 07:42 am
– Rookie Super Rugby coach Jamie Joseph has turned New Zealand’s weakest franchise into a competitive unit
So amazed with the great work Jamie Joseph has done and McKintosh is developing into a great captain and future honours are beckoning
19 Apr 2011, 07:45 am
@KevinRack(KevinRack)-11: bwahahah that coming from the bloke whose forever trolling about refs… puh-lease, I made a valid point…
you Saffas all complain to kingdom come about the travel situation now, surely an added trip to the NH like the Shorks had is only going to increase the amount of travel…
what a laugh…. this hatred of mine, can you confirm as such? nope, didnt think so… but continue, it shows who the deluded one is, perhaps I have the ref on my side?
mamparra..
19 Apr 2011, 07:45 am
A special talent is young Lambie !!
For once the Sharks have let a player with prodigious talent settle into one position and the results are starting to show, long may this continue.
I have heard that Lambie is a level headed lad, so I hope the hype and cover shots don’t go to his head and inflate his ego which could affect his performance !!!!
19 Apr 2011, 07:47 am
@HongKongSlong(HongKongSlong)-14: England have always been revered for their scrumaging but NZ are producing some great scrummagers and if big Carl comes back , i dont think many will oppose ……. And to think in the past SA scrum was so feared
19 Apr 2011, 07:47 am
@KevinRack(KevinRack)-11: so tell me Kevin, why is it that the Reds and the Saders can win games after traveling back from the republic? yet SA sides dont seem to win too many of their first up games when they go overseas?
and dont use the travel disadvantage, because the twio teams above have proven it the fallacy that it is?
looking forward to your most astute response.. is it the refs?
19 Apr 2011, 07:49 am
@stew(stew)-12: i don’t know stew, the last time i checked sheridan made owen franks blush and look around for answers.
the AB don’t turbo-reverse but to proclaim them the best is a bit ott.
19 Apr 2011, 07:51 am
@stew(stew)-18: big Carls past it… game over for him…
19 Apr 2011, 07:52 am
The Lions vodacom cup team is pretty strong…..that might just win something this year.
19 Apr 2011, 07:52 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-19: Hello katvis, your statement yet SA sides dont seem to win too many of their first up games when they go overseas is based on stats.
Please supply the stats.
19 Apr 2011, 07:55 am
@iori Yagami(iori Yagami)-22: that=they
19 Apr 2011, 08:01 am
@KevinRack(KevinRack)-11:
Im not sure that youre best-placed to issue out the ‘hatred speech’ speeches.
do you ?
19 Apr 2011, 08:02 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-7:
the only 1 better is the Crusaders’.
what did Dingo have to say for himself ?
19 Apr 2011, 08:08 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-21: You reckon Poppa …. he seems to be playin well in the french league
19 Apr 2011, 08:08 am
Lambie
Butch
Grant
Carter
…. in that order!
19 Apr 2011, 08:10 am
well, considering the Cheetahs only had their first win overseas THIS year, and the lions havent won one overseas since heaven knows when… lets analyse the 3 “good” SA sides.. we’ll start from 2006 season…
Sharks –
5 April 2008 Hurricanes 13 – 13 Sharks Rd. 8
26 February 2010 Crusaders 35 – 6 Sharks Rd.3
25 February 2006 Crusaders 22 – 20 Sharks Rd 3.
Stormers-
24 February 2007 Highlanders 35 – 24 Stormers Rd 4.
8 March 2008 Reds 16 – 34 Stormers Rd 4.
28 March 2009 Crusaders 11 – 7 Stormers Rd 7.
02 April 2010 Western Force 16 – 15 Stormers Rd 8.
losing 4 from 5
Bulls
15 March 2008 Reds 40 – 8 Bulls rd 5.
1 from 5, so only really the Bulls on the positive side of the ledger huh? but then again, one can make statistics say whatever they want..
19 Apr 2011, 08:11 am
@Sonny_bill_is_k@k_Mossie_is_king(WO_to_kill_Sir_Elton)-28: You forgot to mention Earl Rose/Morne Steyn/Dan Carter all on a par?
19 Apr 2011, 08:12 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-29: sorry, Stormers only 3 from 5… my mistake… but still, SA sides only win half their first up away game..
19 Apr 2011, 08:12 am
@justrugby(justrugby)-17: gm JR
i wish they would stop articles on the kid as it only brings out the haters , calling themselves mature men
bwahahahaaaaaaaaaa
the ones a bigger joke then the next , btw thanks for the decent opinion on the kid
i can tell you he will stay level headed, it seems to run in the family , i met his dad Ian , he is like that very humble oke , end of the day a person reacts as to how they were raised
19 Apr 2011, 08:13 am
Dan Carter on par with Ismal Eal Tollie!
19 Apr 2011, 08:16 am
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-32:
Hi SL
That’s good news !!!
19 Apr 2011, 08:16 am
No .. Carter is good … except if he plays against Butch! or the Bulls! remember 2009 & 2010 – Carter was hond k@k! also strange that gets Carter is “injured” 24 hours before the Bulls game !
19 Apr 2011, 08:17 am
@justrugby(justrugby)-34: cant say how NIc Labuschagne is as i never met him , maybe old grand pa a humble fella too
mind you he was head on natal rugga around your time , you would prolly know????
19 Apr 2011, 08:22 am
@Sonny_bill_is_k@k_Mossie_is_king(WO_to_kill_Sir_Elton)-35:
he didnt need to play against the Bulle this year… 27-0 window licker…
19 Apr 2011, 08:25 am
@Sonny_bill_is_k@k_Mossie_is_king(WO_to_kill_Sir_Elton)-35:
youre clearly desperate for attention, so…….
tell us, how ‘hondkak’ was DC in 2009 ?
19 Apr 2011, 08:28 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-37: And how carter steered the Saders to a 30 point victory at loftus ???????????
19 Apr 2011, 08:28 am
Boks – Tri Nations Champs 2009 – Carter looked like a lighter version of Earl Rose! Carter also had a shocking 2010 Super Rugby Season! remember Loftus/Soweto & Newlands??
19 Apr 2011, 08:28 am
in 2008
19 Apr 2011, 08:31 am
@Sonny_bill_is_k@k_Mossie_is_king(WO_to_kill_Sir_Elton)-40:
Youre about as smart as Krusty
19 Apr 2011, 08:31 am
WO
tell me. who are the only two teams in super history NOT to win a game in a season. ?
the leeus-ers and ???
come on, I know you know the answer
19 Apr 2011, 08:33 am
Stormers & Bulls were starting to dominate Super Rugby .. NZ/Aus rugby unions had to change the whole format … you know, same with Tiger Woods & Schumacher? …. 1 or 2 teams/players dominating a sport is not good. Thats also why you get k@k refs in Super Rugby!
19 Apr 2011, 08:34 am
I really hope the IRB put a moratorium on the amount of foreign players a club can buy, also maybe put a cap on the amount they are allowed to pay for a player.
I know this is not in line with fair the fair trade policy, but with Racing Metro offering Carter R45 Million, how can the likes of NZ and SA keep players in their country.
The local fans will be robbed of their best players, if we are not able to see our best will the public be prepared to pay to watch 2nd stringers ? No public interest = no sponsors = no product!!!
The game in SA and NZ is under threat by the lure of the Euro, the IRB needs to step in to protect these giants of the game, should the game dry up in SA and NZ rugby as we know it would cease to exist !!
Sarel Pretorius has been offered a huge contract by an unknown French club, expect a lot of our stars (not just the older ones) being lured after the WC.
Flo already signed with Bath (23 yrs old !!)
How long will the Sharks be able to hang onto Lambie, if this kid has a great WC expect massive offers for him !!!
Something needs to be done and it appears that only the IRB can do anything , the question is will they, I fear not !!!
19 Apr 2011, 08:37 am
@Sonny_bill_is_k@k_Mossie_is_king(WO_to_kill_Sir_Elton)-35:
You forgot how **** Carter was in the whipping the ‘Saders gave the Bulls at Loftus in 2008 (50 something points I think??), scoring a try that involved brushing aside one of the biggest Bulls on the park and converting all except one of the numerous tries scored.
19 Apr 2011, 08:44 am
@justrugby(justrugby)-45:
its not just France that is the problem. In the last 2-3 weeks, Irish clubs have signed a handful of promising NZ Super players (Afoa, Fotuali’i, Berquist) on massive wedge. The problem is not so much the clubs involved but the fact that the IRU are actually subsidising the contracts in order to attract the players. Which seems somewhat hypocritical considering that Ireland has had to call for bank loans from the World Bank and their economy continues in freefall.
19 Apr 2011, 08:47 am
@Black Panther(Black Panther)-47:
Exactly BP, not sure what the answer is but something needs to be done sooner rather than later !!!
19 Apr 2011, 08:48 am
Carter is a very good player yes …. but like the Proteas, he is a choker!! remember the RWC’s? can’t perform under pressure!
19 Apr 2011, 08:51 am
Oh my gawd, there is no way in this world that one can even mention Lambie in the same breath as Carter. The latter has had some poor performances and he has had some brilliant performances, sure, but his good ones are far better than any flyhalf in South Africa could muster since the time of ….nobody!
Carter at his worst is still better than anything coming out of SA – baby face Bambie included.
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