KeoTV: Sadie’s got the X-factor

KeoTV: Sadie’s got the X-factor

8 Jun 2011

Keo says Johann Sadie could be the Boks’ World Cup bolter, while Ryan Vrede’s backing Ashley Johnson.


35 Comments

  • 1.seabiscuit: Reply to this comment
    8 Jun 2011, 07:03 am

    No doubt sadie is a talent, was beyond impressed with the way he played against the blues and crusaders, next to de jongh the stormers have another class center pairing to do they the hard yards for the next 5 years after jdv and fourie, in 3 years or so we will have awesome bol centers in Jdj Sadie Robert dippenaar whitehead hollenbach riaan swanepoel those are just a few and hell throw lambie into the mix why not, world cup 2015 is looking good already, and about johnston screw the critisim of his conditioning, look at the French first center who played for the Baa baa’s on the weekend as well as the winger for Toulouse, both are over weight fat pigs for backline players and yet NH coaches don’t complain and those two turned in good performances, so johnston keep the lol beer belly man, don’t change what Ain’t broken, he’s one of the best players in sa and let’s keep it that way

  • 2.stormer in a teacup: Reply to this comment
    8 Jun 2011, 07:45 am

    Johnson is in better condition than Alberts.

  • 3.KevinRack: Reply to this comment
    8 Jun 2011, 07:49 am

    @seabiscuit(seabiscuit)-1: spot on.

    Where are the guys that were saying Sadie X-factor how can you tell?

  • 4.seabiscuit: Reply to this comment
    8 Jun 2011, 07:50 am

    Naught champ I’ve chatted with alberts befor he is built like a brick **** house trust me

  • 5.Dawn: Reply to this comment
    8 Jun 2011, 08:16 am

    Damn.

    This Keo TV slows everything down and HM Keo looks plain scarey.

  • 6.stormersboy: Reply to this comment
    8 Jun 2011, 08:21 am

    :D after watching this clip I’m convinced that both Mark and Ryan have the perfect personas for…….print media.

    PS Ryan. the 80′s called. They want their jacket back.

    Yes I’m still on the old email. Feel free to mail me personally to kuk me out about that comment. ;)

  • 7.Finfan: Reply to this comment
    8 Jun 2011, 08:27 am

    At least the spelling and grammar ain’t too bad on Keo TV.

  • 8.WP Till I Die: Reply to this comment
    8 Jun 2011, 08:40 am

    Keo, as much as I’ve always like Johan Sadie – it’s way too premature to make a call like that now.

    Let’s see him in the Currie Cup, if he sustains his magic, then by all means.

    But not now.

  • 9.Hendrik Pienaar: Reply to this comment
    8 Jun 2011, 08:44 am

    Problem is who do you leave out? How many players go to the World Cup? In the past it was 30 but I believe the limit this year is going to be 28?? If that’s the case you’d think one of the Beast or Steenkamp would have to stay home, and only 5 loose-forwards would go? It’s gonna be more a case of who stays at home then who goes… which means no bolters because good solid players who have established themselves won’t be left at home ahead of them.

  • 10.Hendrik Pienaar: Reply to this comment
    8 Jun 2011, 08:55 am

    And if I had to pick a bolter it would be Nick Koster (he can play on the wing as well, and finds space the way you would expect from Schalk Brits). Also I think you’d find that Willem Alberts is statistically one of the top loose-forwards in the competition. He’s run for almost 900m so far in the competition and averages around 7metres per run? Not sure if we have any stronger ball carrier, or as efficient.

  • 11.stormersboy: Reply to this comment
    8 Jun 2011, 09:03 am

    We already have a bolter. His name is Juan De Jong.

  • 12.Slumtown: Reply to this comment
    8 Jun 2011, 09:13 am

    @stormersboy(stormersboy)-11: How can he be a bolter when he´s already firmly established within the squad??? Duh.
    Obviously we´re looking at new guys here who are impressing – De Jongh was a new guy last year. He´s now an experienced and farkin good Bok.

  • 13.stormersboy: Reply to this comment
    8 Jun 2011, 09:18 am

    @Slumtown(Slumtown)-12: I know boet. That was an ironic post. I was referring to the fact that he can’t get a regular first team game as his “bolter” satus. ;)

    Try and keep up. :)

  • 14.Slumtown: Reply to this comment
    8 Jun 2011, 09:27 am

    Let me tell you I agree here with both Mark and Ryan – unfortunately the powers that be will stick to the older heads.. so expect to see Habana, Adi Jacobs, Frans Steyn, and possibly Ricky Januarie. Only thing thats going to shake it up could be injuries at the end part of the Super Rugby tournament, in the Tri Nations or in the World Cup itself. Guys I fear wont make it to the World Cup and he most certainly deserve to have a crack:
    1 Coenie
    2 Deon Fourie & or Schalk Brits
    3 Brian Mujati
    6 Francois Louw
    7 Ashley Johnson
    8 Joshua Strauss
    8 Duane Vermeulen
    9 Sarel Pretorius
    10 Sias Ebersohn
    10 Pat Lambie
    11 Mvovo
    12 Johann Sadie
    15 Riaan Viljoen/ Jaco Taute

    I believe Basson will go along with Houghaard, possibly Lambie

    I reckon this will be the squad:
    1 Gurthro
    1 Beast
    2 Smit
    2 Bismarck
    3 Jannie du Plessis
    3 CJ van der Linde
    4 Bakkies
    4 Danie Rossouw
    5 Matfield
    5 Becker
    6 Brussouw
    6 Schalk Burger
    7 Juan Smith
    7 Willem Alberts
    8 Spies
    8 Kankowski
    9 Fourie du Preez
    9 Ricky Januarie/ Francois Houghaard
    10 Morne Steyn
    10 Butch James / Lambie
    11 Habana
    11 Basson
    12 Jean de Villiers
    12 Juan de Jongh
    13 Jacques Fourie
    13 Adi Jacobs
    14 Jp Pietersen
    14 Gio Aplon
    15 Frans Steyn
    15 Ruaan Pienaar.

    Either way there are a lot of talented people who wont be going.
    1 Coenie
    1 Dean Greyling
    2 Deon Fourie
    2 Schalk Brits
    2 Tiaan Liebenberg
    3 Eugene van Staden
    3 BJ Botha
    4 Rynhardt Elstadt
    4 Flip vd Merwe
    5 Anton van Zyl
    6 Keegan Daniel
    6 Jean Deysel
    7 Dewaldt Potgieter
    7 Ashley Johnson
    8 Joshua Strauss
    8 Duane Vermeulen
    9 Sarel Pretorius
    9 Charl McCleod
    9 Dewaldt Duvenhage
    10 Peter Grant
    10 Sias Ebersohn
    10 Possibly Lambie
    10 Elton Jantjes (not ready anyway)
    11 Mvovo
    12 Doppies la Grange
    12 Johann Sadie
    13 Robert Ebersohn
    15 Jaco Taute
    15 Zane Kirchner
    15 Riaan Viljoen

  • 15.Slumtown: Reply to this comment
    8 Jun 2011, 09:28 am

    @stormersboy(stormersboy)-13: okkkayyy … not suyrprising he cant get a start with Fourie and de Villiers ahead of him though.

  • 16.>^..^< katman: Reply to this comment
    8 Jun 2011, 09:34 am

    If we’re picking backline bolters, then surely Jaco Taute is ahead of Johan “2 Games” Sadie. Just saying.

  • 17.WP Till I Die: Reply to this comment
    8 Jun 2011, 09:40 am

    @>^..^< katman(katman)-16:

    Fully agree.

  • 18.keo: Reply to this comment
    8 Jun 2011, 09:42 am

    every so often a player comes along and he just looks like he has been there all his life. Sadie, for me, is that player. He was awesome at u21 level and the manne in which he has slotted in when given such limited chances with Stormers has confirmed my view that the kid has something very special. I thought his performance against the Blues was very good and his composure, when playing wing, against Saders also showed a lot about his temperament.

    I rate Taute, but when I talk bolter I talk about an exceptional talent and Sadie is this talent.

  • 19.>^..^< katman: Reply to this comment
    8 Jun 2011, 09:51 am

    @keo(keo)-18: Jeez keo, given the Cape Town context, “the manne in which he has slotted in” is a pretty bad Freudian slip.

    And, at only 21, Jaco Taute has had two very impressive seasons in a struggling team. Even if you only look at this year’s Super 15, he’s done far more than Sadie (who looks to be one for the future) to warrant a Bok look-in. By this I mean all-round contribution, not just a handful of sniping runs.

  • 20.Brigadier Van Zyl: Reply to this comment
    8 Jun 2011, 09:52 am

    jeez man….ashley johnson must annoy the hell out of the opposition.

    whenever he scores a try, the opposition spend twice as long as the usually do under the poles for the simple reason….they are still waiting for his arse to arrive and cross the line. And only then….can the kicker start lining up.

    hell, last week against the sharks…..I’m sure I saw bismark taking a call from someone on a cell.

  • 21.justrugby: Reply to this comment
    8 Jun 2011, 09:59 am

    @keo(keo)-18:

    Agree I posted on here 2 years ago that he is a special talent, also mentioned that with the depth of centres at the Stormers /Province set up, that the Sharks with their centre woes should of approached him.

    Glad they did not !!!

    Again we will really only know how good he is once he has played a full S15 and the opposition have had time to work him out, I think he will survive the acid test and go on to become a superstar !!

  • 22.Bouts: Reply to this comment
    8 Jun 2011, 11:01 am

    @keo(keo)-18: I don’t agree. You guys posted the last few weeks that Ashley J was done an injustice by forcing him into the Bok team too quickly.

    So, do you want Sadie to go the same route as Bosman and Rose?

    Rather have him compete in the CC first. He’s only played in a strong team with momentum, so he has to experience playing in a depleted WP team first.
    With the Bok team already settled for some time now, I’d be careful to take away a spot from the small squad allowed for the World Cup, for a ‘Wild Card’. It may upset the team dynamic.

  • 23.mxhosa: Reply to this comment
    8 Jun 2011, 11:07 am

    @keo(keo)-18:

    Surely he’b be better served staying at home and working on his conditioning, coz carrying tackle bags in the Springbok camp will do nothing for his confidence or develpment, as has been written on this site about other players with potential, or is that reserved for certain players?

  • 24.Gambit25: Reply to this comment
    8 Jun 2011, 11:39 am

    Is it weird for me to say that I get excited to see Sadie playing at centre?

    Some really great prospects in midfield for years to come:-

    17-18 yrs: Jordaan, Small-Smith, Mbovane
    19-21 yrs: Sadie, Venter, Moolman, Lane

    2015 Bok Backline (assuming these guys are nutured and grow)

    9. Hougaard / Rademan / Duvenage
    10. Lambie / Goosen / Jantjies
    11. Engelbrecht / Basson
    12. De Jongh / R. Ebersohn / Venter / Jordaan
    13. Sadie / Small-Smith / Moolman
    14. Van der Heerver / Mvovo / Mjekevu
    15. Taute / Cronje

  • 25.Bouts: Reply to this comment
    8 Jun 2011, 11:55 am

    @Gambit25(Gambit25)-24: I can’t wait for Goosen to start playing senior rugby!! That guy is everything everyone expected from Frans Steyn as a no10 (which didn’t quite work out for Steyn) and better! Wow! Can he kick!

  • 26.Gambit25: Reply to this comment
    8 Jun 2011, 12:11 pm

    @Bouts(Bouts)-25: Yeah… Another special player!

    But thats what we seem to breed here in SA, alot of young special talents… Its up to coaching and management to nurture and grow these exeptional talents into world number 1′s in their respective positions!

    I see guys like Frans Steyn, Lionel Cronje and Ruan Pienaar to an extent and it sucks that we let such special players lose their brilliance!

    But then again… its all the extra special players that step over any obstacles and find their way back to the top!

    I look forward to the coming years of SA rugby as long as SARU administrators don’t stuff things up…

  • 27.Hendrik Pienaar: Reply to this comment
    8 Jun 2011, 12:46 pm

    @Gambit25(Gambit25)-26:

    I don’t see how Steyn, Cronje & Pienaar have ‘lost their brilliance’. Francois Steyn is a fullback out and out. He plays instinctively, and has a monster boot. His skill set is perfectly suited to fullback. He takes too many ‘risks’ to be playing at 10.

    Ruan Pienaar is still an excellent player. He was never going to be able to continue making multiple linebreaks every game for his entire career. Players are ‘figured out’, get worn out, and lose that extra split second of speed needed to do that when they near the 30 mark. Fourie du Preez is the best 9 to ever play the game in my opinion because he overcomes that by being really really smart.

    And Lionel Cronje… he is still a kid. He’s what, 22? He needs to mature. He’s been terrible playing S14 rugby. He played terribly against the Blues before going off injured (two of his mistakes resulting in 14 points for the Blues). I can only hope that he’s got the desire to be as good as he can be. Sometimes when play speeds up, and the guys running at you are bigger and stronger, the self confidence & determination isn’t always there.

  • 28.mshiniwami: Reply to this comment
    8 Jun 2011, 13:02 pm

    @Slumtown(Slumtown)-14:

    Its not as simple as picking 2 players in position for 30 man squad.Its the right dynamic chosen

    For instance:

    -3 hookers
    -3 scrumhalves

    specialist positions where skillset is imperative.

    -a loosefwd/lock utility fwd which reduces need for an extra lock or loosie
    -a utility back who can cover 10/12/15-which reduces need for 2 extra wing cover

    This involves these players:

    -Danie Rossouw-4/5/6/7/8
    -Frans Hougaard-9/11/13/14
    -Ruan Pienaar-9/10/15
    -Frans Steyn-12/15

    Squad:
    16 forwards
    14 backs

    1.Guthro/Beast
    2.Smit/Bismark/Rallapelle
    3.Jannie/CJ or Mujati
    4.Bakkies/Rossouw
    5.Bekker/Matfield
    6.Brussow/Burger
    7.Smith/Alberts
    8.Spies
    (No second 8 option needed as Alberts,Rossouw can play 8 as well)

    9.Du Preez/Hougaard/Pienaar
    10.Morne/Butch
    11.Habana/Basson
    12.De Villliers/de Jongh
    13.Fourie/Jacobs
    14.JP
    15.Aplon/F.Steyn

  • 29.cab: Reply to this comment
    8 Jun 2011, 13:48 pm

    @mshiniwami(mshiniwami)-28:
    seems pretty much spot on for the RWC squad.

    alot of players left at home that i think could form a v good RWC squad too, but we’ve seen SA think theyve had depth before only for their 2nd stringers to get plastered. I do think though that this is the strongest SA rugby has ever been since readmission.

    As for Keo’s bolter on Sadie, i’d rather go with Rob Ebersohn.

  • 30.Gambit25: Reply to this comment
    8 Jun 2011, 14:03 pm

    @Hendrik Pienaar(hendrikp)-27: Yeah… didn’t mean “lose their brilliance.” Shouldn’t have said that!

    They were messed around and weren’t allowed to grow in their position. Right now, they aren’t the best in respective positions because of that and thats why I say we need to manage and look after the special talents. Pienaar and Steyn are good players but they are not the best in their positions because of how they were managed and I guess to some fault of their own as well.

    Cronje has time to develop but he should’ve developed earlier considering he was the best u20 player 2 years ago when Lambie & Jantjies were in the same squad! This again is just a case for better management and nurturing for our players

  • 31.seabiscuit: Reply to this comment
    8 Jun 2011, 14:22 pm

    Both Sadie and Lionel are exceptional talents but both def need game time, but we gotta back both of em, Lionel runs brilliant lines and thinks brilliantly has a brain like larkham if u ask me, kicking will improve with time but he is a awesome prospect for the future, Sadie I’ve only seen in 2 games so he needs more time too, but he thinks well on his feet and runs hard lines, next to Jdj he looks really classy and I’m sure will come of age soon, as for Frans steyn he has to play 15 no matter wat he is too hot headed for 10, he has that cannon of a boot and every tram is gna hate kicking onto him as he’ll no doubt have a better return his size is also a factor and with aplon and mvovo next to him he’ll b able to carry it up n put hard runners like themselves into space, BOKKE!!!!!!!

  • 32.Bouts: Reply to this comment
    8 Jun 2011, 14:25 pm

    @Hendrik Pienaar(hendrikp)-27: Actually, I think Cronje’s mistake was to leave the FS, because Cheetah style of rugby suited him better. Defensive rugby isn’t for everyone.

  • 33.>^..^< katman: Reply to this comment
    8 Jun 2011, 15:26 pm

    @mshiniwami(mshiniwami)-28: I think that’s the squad there, injuries and Div brainfarts permitting.

    Unlucky fringe players are Johnson, Lambie, Vermeulen and Sarel Pretorius.

  • 34.Papoose: Reply to this comment
    8 Jun 2011, 15:43 pm

    @stormersboy(stormersboy)-11: NYCE

  • 35.KevinRack: Reply to this comment
    9 Jun 2011, 04:19 am

    Taute…the guy remnds me of Reds fullback Latham.

    Taute manged to draw two players, take both out of the play, unload the ball to the player in space and still stay on his feet in support. You cant teach that. He does need lesson on his brainfarts he gets sometimes when he drops the ball dead cold.

    Another is Mbovane…and terror too.

    Aaah the future looks bright.

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