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10 Jun 2011
RYAN VREDE applauds Peter de Villiers for axing Ricky Januarie and Adi Jacobs and MARK KEOHANE says Brian Mujati will be added to the World Cup squad.
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RYAN VREDE applauds Peter de Villiers for axing Ricky Januarie and Adi Jacobs and MARK KEOHANE says Brian Mujati will be added to the World Cup squad.
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85 Comments
10 Jun 2011, 14:19 pm
we need mujati!
10 Jun 2011, 14:41 pm
Who are the 3 to come in? And who are the 10 to fall out?
1. Mujati
2. Sadie???
3.
1. Spies!!!! (but he will remain)
2. Ashley Johnson
3. Coenie Oosthuizen
4. Adriaan Strauss
5. Duane Vermeulen
6. Wynand Olivier
7. Lwazi Mvovo
8.
9.
10.
10 Jun 2011, 14:48 pm
@grant10(grant10)-1: does Keo address his eligibility in this thing?
10 Jun 2011, 14:55 pm
G10, you need a rest! 1st you had the “Plod” fixation, and now “Mujati”
10 Jun 2011, 14:56 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-3: ja
@Cheetah 4 Eva(Cheetah 4 Eva)-4: worried about our tightheads bud….from what i have seen mujati looks the best option, just want a powerful set piece, thats all
10 Jun 2011, 14:59 pm
@grant10(grant10)-5: what does he say?, i don’t have earphones where i am.
10 Jun 2011, 15:02 pm
With Ricky and Adi gone – you can’t help but wonder whether more people in Cape Town will now deflect to the Crusaders?
10 Jun 2011, 15:04 pm
ryan vrede is a known nazi lover,so his attacks on adi and ricky all week is no surprise.
10 Jun 2011, 15:04 pm
Keo, I know you changed to a colour top because your white-on-white drew a fair bit of criticism last time round. But with that tracky you could easily go and sell drugs on a council estate in Hackney. I assume you’re trying on the sporty look, but it looks more old 5-series gangsta than Usain Bolt.
10 Jun 2011, 15:08 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-6: says papers are being sorted and mujati will be there
10 Jun 2011, 15:10 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-9:
Eat your words.
That is Chinese version ANC pavement special knock-off tracky top.
10 Jun 2011, 15:17 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-11: Built to withstand the toughest Cosatu rally conditions. Now with Amandla Armpits™ for maximum toyi-toying effectiveness and pleasure.
10 Jun 2011, 15:20 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-11:
ANC pavement special?
That’s no way to talk to Valkyrie.
@>^..^< katman(katman)-9:
the Ali G look is always a hard sell when you are a middle-aged white boy.
10 Jun 2011, 15:23 pm
@grant10(grant10)-10: oh okay, then.
10 Jun 2011, 15:32 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-6: Says that there are 3 new comers to join the squad, so that means 10 to fall out to make the final 30. He says he has the 3 names, but will publish them in the future.
10 Jun 2011, 15:36 pm
@gunther keeps the cape in shape(gunther)-13: If it’s good enough for Eminem, danny K and Zwelinzima V, it’s good enough for our Mark.
10 Jun 2011, 15:40 pm
@Schalk is Pote Fouries daughter(richardmarais)-15: dankie richie
10 Jun 2011, 15:47 pm
@Valkyrie(Valkyrie)-8: Attacks? Simply stating the truth. Just because there are those that are well known for perceiving everything they don’t like to hear as racist, doesn’t mean they are right or in any way valid.
10 Jun 2011, 15:48 pm
My team for the away leg of the Tri-Nations:
15 Aplon
14 Pietersen
13 Fourie
12 De Villiers
11 Mvovo
10 Lambie
09 Du Preez
8 Burger
7 Alberts
6 Brussow
5 Bekker
4 Botha
3 J Du Plessis
2 Smit
1 Mtawarira
16 Ralepelle
17 Kruger
18 Rossouw
19 Johnson
20 Hougaard
21 M Steyn
22 F Steyn
Home leg:
15 F Steyn
14 Aplon
13 Fourie
12 De Jongh
11 Habana
10 M Steyn
09 Du Preez
8 Vermuelen
7 Smith
6 Brussow
5 Matfield
4 Rossouw
3 J Du Plessis
2 B Du Plessis
1 Mtawarira
16 Ralepelle
17 Kruger
18 Bekker
19 Spies
20 Pienaar
21 James
22 De Villiers
10 Jun 2011, 15:50 pm
@grant10(grant10)-5: You are right about Mujati. We can no longer dilly around with Jannie duh Plessis, or the other flops. I just want real stability to allow Beast or Steenkamp to really dominate. He at the very least can offer that stability and work ethic. That’s very important because we have had very weak front rows over the past twelve years. To be honest, none of the sH sides have great scrums. NZ used to have the best but are being totally dismantled as well. This could be important at the WC. We might gain an upper hand with a solid tighthead.
10 Jun 2011, 15:54 pm
i can live with mujati in the springbok team if it means we can get rid of another nazi-loving afrikaner broederbonder in janniedup
10 Jun 2011, 15:59 pm
@Valkyrie(Valkyrie)-21: That’s disgusting Valkyrie. What if I said that I can live with Pretorius so long as that pro-machete wielding murdering rapist Earl Rose was gone? Of course, then there would be an uproar. I agree that Jannie is not good enough, but there is a line you dont cross, and you’re wandering off into the horizon.
10 Jun 2011, 15:59 pm
@Valkyrie(Valkyrie)-21: You have a trubled little mind guy
10 Jun 2011, 16:01 pm
@Blitzbok(Blitzbok)-20: agree with you….Mujatis work in the tight loose a bonus, but really what you want in a 3 is a real hardarse strong oke who can give you stability at all times on your own ball and get a shove on on oppo ball…
the saders moered that sharks scrum with smit at 1….beast helped when he came on, but still sharks never really looked comfortable.
Mujati has been a rock for northampts….some awesome scrumming and I have seen enough to say lets get him in the mix. Werner Kruger has not impressed me much as a powerhouse 3, nor has J Dup….
Lets give Mujati a fair shot, tri nations perfect opportunity to see how he will fare against the frank bros, woodcocock , crockett…robinson.
10 Jun 2011, 16:02 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-16:
One word : CHEAP
10 Jun 2011, 16:08 pm
i just hope mujati is at peace with everything that happened in SA to him and he is comfortable enough to mix with the so-called Stormers “superstars” that shunned him a couple of years back. he is now a star himself.
10 Jun 2011, 16:13 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-26: yip…that was not cool to hear…being a pro era i am sure the guys will sort it out amongst each other…
10 Jun 2011, 16:14 pm
@grant10(grant10)-27: you might get guys in Smit’s ear complaining the whole day
10 Jun 2011, 16:16 pm
keo looks like a pimp.you are trying to hard old buddy!
10 Jun 2011, 16:17 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-26:
Mujati moet maar vir sy mense doen, soos Joost.
10 Jun 2011, 16:20 pm
@mxhosa(mxhosa)-30: maShonaland neziphaluka
10 Jun 2011, 16:22 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-28: LOL
Ja….
Hope Mujati dont get a chapter in some wallys book down the line!
10 Jun 2011, 16:31 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-26:
Is that why he drank so much?
10 Jun 2011, 16:33 pm
In the Heinejen Cup Final, Mujati was sent off, Tom Mercer came on and the Northampton scrum was dominant.
However in the second half, the Leinster scrum was handing Mujati and the Northampton scrum their own backsides on a plate.
Yet Mujati is some saviour? Can’t say I agree.
10 Jun 2011, 16:34 pm
RWC Springbok first choice 22 will be:
1. Mtawarira
2. Smit
3. J. Du Plessis
4. Botha
5. Matfield
6. Brussow
7. Smith
8. Burger
9. Du Preez
10. M. Steyn
11. Habana
12. De Villiers
13. Fourie
14. Pieterson
15. Aplon
16. B. Du Plessis
17. Mujati
18. Bekker
19. Rossouw
20. Pienaar
21. James
22. F. Steyn
With the remainder of the squad being:
23. Steenkamp
24. Ralepelle
25. Alberts
26. Spies
27. Hougaard
28. De Jongh
29. Lambie
And one of either Bjorn Basson or Flip Van Der Merwe making up the final spot.
10 Jun 2011, 16:37 pm
If Burger, Smith and Spies start as the loose forward trio then Aplon will move to the bench and Frans Steyn will be first-choice 15.
Also, if this is the starting loose trio, then one of Bekker or Rossouw will make way for Brussow on the bench.
Or alternatively James will drop out of the 22 and it will be a 5-2 split with Pienaar covering 9 and 10.
10 Jun 2011, 16:43 pm
@kevin w(kevin w)-34: Mujati has been the cornerstone in arguably the strongest scrum in the NH, which is therefore one of the strongest scrums in the world. That’s the big picture. We will face nZ if we don’t bomb in the QFs, having a dominant scrum over their flimsy scrum will be very important. Dominant scrum, dominant lineout, superior tactical kicking, and at least parity at the breakdown… recipe for a comfortable victory over NZ.
10 Jun 2011, 16:44 pm
@gunther keeps the cape in shape(gunther)-33: didn’t know he drank a lot
10 Jun 2011, 16:44 pm
@puff(puff)-36: Burger? Spies, Frans out of position at 15? Very bad moves all round, very very bad!
10 Jun 2011, 16:46 pm
@kevin w(kevin w)-34: one game? how was he the rest of the season?
10 Jun 2011, 16:50 pm
@Blitzbok(Blitzbok)-39:
What about Burger?
Spies is playing himself out of the 22, and PDV should look at Brussow, Smith and Burger as the starting loose trio.
If he does, Aplon will be 15 with Pienaar, James and Frans Steyn on the bench.
10 Jun 2011, 16:51 pm
@Blitzbok(Blitzbok)-37:
Nothing flimsy about the All Blacks scrum.
10 Jun 2011, 16:54 pm
@kevin w(kevin w)-34: you obviously did not see the 1 st half scrums then.
10 Jun 2011, 16:57 pm
@puff(puff)-42: They are not the scrumming force they used to be. Watching them get manhandled by the Welsh, split in two by Italy and France, dominated by England and Argentina. that’s quite a slide down the pecking order! In fact, the game down South is moving away from Union and more to League. More scrappy and frantic, whilst the North still have an appreciation for the graft and forward play. That may be a telling factor during the WC.
10 Jun 2011, 17:05 pm
@Blitzbok(Blitzbok)-44: especially as the games will be played in evenings , so will be slow and low….
best for boks is to have a great set piece….
and that includes a 3 worthy of the jersey
10 Jun 2011, 17:10 pm
Whether we have the best 15 man for man is of course debatable – as it should be because the world is full of some incredible players, which makes the game a contest at the highest level.
But there are very few teams if any who can boast a bench with the likes of:
B. Du Plessis
Mujati
Bekker
Rossouw
Pienaar
James
F. Steyn
10 Jun 2011, 17:13 pm
@puff(puff)-46: Of those players I’d only trust Frans (at 12), Rossouw, James and Mujati to have any significant impact on the game. Most of those should never be on the bench. In fact, I can find a place for all of them in the starting lineup. The only real battle is Morne over Butch. Either or, we lose very little.
10 Jun 2011, 17:18 pm
@Blitzbok(Blitzbok)-47:
Bekker coming on for Botha will have an impact.
Bismark for Smit who will shift to 1 to replace Beast.
Rossouw on for one of the loosies – probably Smith – will have huge impact.
Frans on for JDV or Habana with Aplon shifting to left wing. He will have some space and time to try some monster drop goals with opposition legs too slow to chase him down.
10 Jun 2011, 17:19 pm
But Rossouw can replace any one of the loosies, really.
If Brussow has to go off, Burger will shift to 6.
And Bismark will be there in the second half to compensate for the loss of Brussow’s pilfering abilities.
10 Jun 2011, 17:21 pm
Yes, it is true, there is an argument for Bismark to start, considering Smit’s form.
BUT SMIT WILL START AND WILL CAPTAIN.
You all need to accept this as it is a reality.
There is also an argument for Aplon to take Habana’s place on the left wing, but this won’t happen either.
10 Jun 2011, 17:21 pm
@puff(puff)-48: surely bissy will start the big games! insane if he does not
10 Jun 2011, 17:24 pm
@puff(puff)-48: Bekker has historically never filled in well for Bakkies. Usually gets injured or easily nullified. To date has not made an impact, much like Olivier. Bismarck is not test class. Has zero BMT, has a very long list of yellow card, and penalties, poor hands, poor lineout throwing, mostly aimless or petulant. Smit is a substandard prop, end of story. Frans at 12 is perfect. Aplon is defensively our best 15 and offers much more than Frans. but Kirchner beat more defenders and made more breaks last year than the entire backline did in 09!! So Kirchner is by miles our best attacking 15!!
10 Jun 2011, 17:25 pm
@grant10(grant10)-10:
So he is not eligible today then? Getting sorted and already sorted are different.
That would explain the obvious TH hole in the squad.
BTW – G10 -When Smit retires, after captaining the Boks at the WC what are you going to talk about?
I reckon you have well over a 1000 Smit posts. Now I know some of the keo members are slow but none are that slow.
10 Jun 2011, 17:25 pm
@grant10(grant10)-51:
I think PDV isn’t only looking at the Brussow-Smith-Burger trio because Spies is out of form.
I reckon he’s also looking at it because he obviously wants his captain to start in his preferred position.
With Brussow there, we have the pilfering skills we need in the first half before Bismark comes on the field.
Yes, it can be argued that Bismark is stronger and faster than Smit.
But Smit is a great lineout thrower, knows his team mates and the game plan better than anyone else, knows how to handle pressure situations better than anyone else.
Both Du Plessis bros are prone to bullying, getting penalised and partaking in nasty off the ball tactics that can get the Boks into trouble during a World Cup.
Bismark’s discipline is a worry.
I AM PRETTY CERTAIN SMIT WILL START AT HOOKER MORE OFTEN THAN NOT.
10 Jun 2011, 17:28 pm
@Biscuit(Biscuit)-53: not sure
will find a hobby horse
10 Jun 2011, 17:29 pm
@puff(puff)-54: Bismarck has amassed 3 turnovers since the start of the 2009 test season! Not a big threat at the breakdown at all!! Bismarck is a GUARANTEED penalty maching in high pressure situations. Save him for the minnows instead.
10 Jun 2011, 17:29 pm
@puff(puff)-54: results do not support your assertions….
but as biscuit says ….over 1000 posts so lets leave it
10 Jun 2011, 17:30 pm
cheers all
outta here
10 Jun 2011, 17:30 pm
@Blitzbok(Blitzbok)-52:
You had me until Kirchner.
I’m not disputing your stats and, in my mind, Kirchner has held his ground at test level.
But I am confident if Aplon is given an extended run in the number 15 jersey, he will surpass Kirchner’s attacking stats without too much discomfort.
Especially with Burger making tackles and Brussow stealing ball for quick recycle.
10 Jun 2011, 17:31 pm
@Blitzbok(Blitzbok)-56:
I am inclined to agree with you re Bismark.
The hooker who is currently impressing me the most in SA is Adriaan Strauss.
10 Jun 2011, 17:33 pm
@grant10(grant10)-58:
Yes, your stance on Smit is well documented.
Smit aside, do you see Spies in the starting 15?
And Habana?
10 Jun 2011, 17:41 pm
@Blitzbok(Blitzbok)-37: @Transformation(Transformation)-40: @grant10(grant10)-43: Yes one game you are right, a final – in the WC, just about every game is a final. And you know what, the real threats in the WC are not even going to be players playing in his league currently.
Sexton turned that game – why – because of the platform the Leinster tight 5 were placing on the Northampton tight 5.
Yes Grant, I saw the 1st half – mujati was off for 10 minutes and as I stated and so did the commentators how much impact Mujatis replacement had. There was even a tighthead and a penalty I think.
Not saying he is cr@p, but I don’t think that he is a saviour.
10 Jun 2011, 17:44 pm
@Blitzbok(Blitzbok)-52:
Yes, in the past, Bekker hasn’t filled in all that well for Bakkies.
But Bekker has added more ammo to his arsenal of late.
There are a few other players who have upped their games.
Steenkamp’s scrummaging has improved.
Burger’s linking play too.
Morne Steyn…
JDV getting back to his best.
JP Pieterson hitting a purple patch.
Daniesaurus…
It all bodes well.
10 Jun 2011, 17:47 pm
@kevin w(kevin w)-62:
Who do you rate higher?
Mujati
Jannie
CJ
BJ
Kruger
Harris
Van Staden
Nell
In fact, why not list them in order of preference?
10 Jun 2011, 17:58 pm
The fact is 3 is a problematic position for the Boks, much like 13 was for the All Blacks after Umanga retired.
But these things work in cycles.
Look at the 13s available to the ABs now.
10 was a problematic position for the Boks for the longest time too but look at the options coming through at the moment – very exciting.
The real truth is tighthead has been problematic for years and years.
CJ and BJ were hailed as the saviours in that position.
But CJ has always had problems at scrum time.
And I’ve only really seen BJ be dominant once or twice in a Bok jersey.
10 Jun 2011, 18:00 pm
But sjoe the young 10s in SA are looking great at the mo.
Lambie, Ebershon, Jantjies.
I reckon Lionel Cronje would make a decent fullback.
10 Jun 2011, 18:11 pm
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A SPECIAL MESSAGE FOR RYAN
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Meneer today I have lost my respect for your rugby analysis.
1.) Ricky is the world’s most explosive scrumhalf. Nobody can read the game like him in tight situations. He is a national treasure.
2.) Adi Jacobs is part of the worlds elite centres. He does his job quietly but he is deadly. The only thing that Sonny Bill has that Adi hasn’t got is tall height. Adi has more pace, more line-breaking and even better passing than Sonny Bill.
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EVERYONE ON KEO SUPPORTS RICKY AND ADI – BRING THEM BACK
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10 Jun 2011, 18:36 pm
@puff(puff)-64: Look i’m no scrummaging expert … although since moving to the States I could be considered a prop soon.
My point is, Mujati did not seem to be very effective in a key game – the Heineken Cup final – he also is not competing against the best in South Africa; or the best of NZ and Aus who in my opinion are the favourites for the WC.
I think Jannie Dup, has been diosappointing this season and even Smit has taken stick because of it (Crusaders game – Jannie was getting popped but Smit was getting blamed).
Out of your list, I would go with BJ (I’m a biased Sharkie); to me CJ has never let the Boks down and has great experience and can play both sides … so I guess I would go with experience over a player who never set the house on fire in SA and is competing in a different world to prove his worth.
10 Jun 2011, 19:17 pm
@kevin w(kevin w)-68: The forward play up North is lightyears ahead of everything in SA! We still have coaching methos from the 60s and 80s… very slow to keep pace, and too arrogant to look farther afield and learn. If you want your front rowers to learn, send them up North. Without a shadow of a doubt the best thing that Mujati ever did. And look, he has turned into a star performer. The only area of weakness that the North has is England’s stale back play. But even that is starting to change. South Africa does not have great coaches and an even worse coaching culture, that’s why we’ve struggled since readmission. We’ve always had the players, but never the brains. How many rubbish coaches, i.e., Straeuli’s, McIntoshs, De Villiers, Viljoens et al have you seen coach NZ? It just doesn’t happen. Smooth transition after smooth transition, one astute rugby brain hands the reigns over to the next, Whilst we have one good coach pop up ever decade or so. Our Super rugby sides only started to improve on 2007, after foreigners came in to do their work. Look what happened to CJ, BJ, Beast, Jannie, Steenkamp, Maku, Chiliboy, Van Der Merwe were destroyed on the 09 EOYT. In one game against Leicster, three front rowers were mangled one after the other and cried off injured! Do not underestimate the quality up North. Italy has produced more quality props in the last 10 years than we have in the last 40. We are very far behind. Added to that, we are being sucked into this new League mentality, of lighter forwards who like to dance in defensively scrappy, sloppy high scoring games. These are not good things.
10 Jun 2011, 19:51 pm
@Blitzbok(Blitzbok)-69: Mate, the NH has managed 1 WC out of 7? Aussies who are **** at scrummaging apparently have triple the amount of world cups than the entire NH???? We have double and you claim Italy are better than us. Our tight 5 has always set the platform for the Boks so i just can’t agree with you. From Stransky, to De Beer, to Morne Steyn , you need a platform to put drop goals over. Your tight 5 create that platform. We wouldn’t be succesful, if they weren’t succesful. It’s common sense.
10 Jun 2011, 20:10 pm
@kevin w(kevin w)-70: Incorrect, every credible mind in the game is in agreement that the North is leading the way here. Scrummaging up North is much better. Our flimsy scrums have been consistently destroyed up North. Only NZ during the last cycle lead the way. The Aussie side of the 90s had a world class scrum and the best lineout in the world, so that again is wrong. Italy can rotate any one of 8 props without weaknesses. The one that faced us in 08 was a 4/5th string front row, and they mangled us. On the 09 EOYT Castrogiovani mangled THREE front rowers in one half. How you can say we have led the way is ridiculous, we have had a pap scrum for 12 years. The SH has not been on par for a very long time. Just look at Aus.
10 Jun 2011, 20:31 pm
Well i would say that the win ratio favours NZ, Aus & Boks over their NH counterparts both home and away. I guess scrums aren’t that important then, because they don’t really result in victories.
Boks had a k@k EOYT – i personally wouldn’t base too much on that. Bring me a NH side that would win the Super 15.
10 Jun 2011, 23:27 pm
@kevin w(kevin w)-72: I never mentioned win ratios, I mentioned competency in the set pieces, particularly the scrum. They place far more emphasis on it, and coach it better. Even Dan Carter said that the NH hemisphere is slower but more tactical. How this translates to test wins is irrelevant, as it plays no part in what I am talking about.But on the subject, Australia and South Africa do not have great away records, and as we know NZ’s 47 penalties per yellow card ratio and the fear factor means they usually come out on top up north. So there, that argument is still suspect anyway.
11 Jun 2011, 00:12 am
@Biscuit(Biscuit)-53: Smit will become Springbok team manager when he retires, expect 1000s more g10 smit posts for years and years to come
11 Jun 2011, 00:14 am
@kevin w(kevin w)-72: this year? Toulouse
11 Jun 2011, 00:17 am
@Blitzbok(Blitzbok)-69: It must have been encouraging then for you to see hoe the Baby Boks demolished the Scots today
11 Jun 2011, 01:10 am
Keo pushing the sin of gambling…
Gambling in sport is **** and its leads down the path of corruption and match fixing and murder. Cricket has suffered and now football is in the grips of mafia controlled games in Europe. The famous 95 RWC was hijacked by a British syndicate with the Suzie scandal.
The house never looses Keo…..
11 Jun 2011, 04:11 am
There is only one douche-bag that can equal Keo when it comes to self-obsessiveness whilst knowing no more than the punters that come to his site and that is Jason Smith… two peas in a pod…
‘Self-obsessive TV’ is all this is… what an absolute chop!
11 Jun 2011, 05:42 am
if mujati is not the answer (either unavailable or even overrated) then why not re-run the the experiment of playing smit at 3. we have 2 fantastic looseheads in beast and gurthro and we did completely dominate the tri-nations and win 3 in a row against the ABs with Smit at 3…
thing is the scrum is a lot less important these days. its all about collisions, lineouts and ruck/mauls.
11 Jun 2011, 06:27 am
@munkiboi(munkiboi)-79: With Smit at 3 our scrum got manhandled badly. We were not so dominant either. Suspect defence and woeful backline play meant we coasted those games. Brussow was the only real difference, should have been player of the year. He totally humiliated McCaw, who never had ONE good test that year, yet came away with the IRB award!! This nonsense of playing players out of position has never helped the Boks, Smit (1, 3) Adi (12, 11), Olivier (13, 14), Pienaar, (10, 15), Frans (15, 13), Morne (15), Kankowski (6, 7), Rossouw (6), Bekker (4), Butch (12), Jean (14), Monty (13), Potgieter (6), Carstens (1), Kirchner (13), Rose (15). Yes, all have been tried by de Villiers, and all have failed. His mantra of players not being specialists has to come to an end. It’s messed Smit around more than anyone else either. I wonder why he wasn’t enjoying his rugby, eh Divvy? Being stuffed around the front row, losing weight, bulking up, losing weight again, not knowing whether he is coming or going, and as he said actually concerned about his safety as he is not a real prop! But Divvy goes and persists with this garbage anyway. Adi injured and a liability at 13 in 2009? Solution: Put him even closer to the action at 12! Wanted to speed the game up in the first Lions test? solution: Replace Brussow with the slower Rossouw, out of position. Bok scrum keeping us in the game against Ireland in 09. Unsolution? Sub BJ, move Smit to 3 and bring on Bismarck. The entire game fell apart for us! This nonsense must stop now. It’s a World Cup year for goodness sake! Smit at 2, end of story.
11 Jun 2011, 06:31 am
@TheAgent(TheAgent)-76: I fail to see your point. How many of those bully boys at younger level make it successfully at test level? Most end up being technically beaten with the senior level opponents. Body positions and all those things are inferior. Thats why we rely on brute force to compensate for our technical shortcomings. Because we do not coach these aspects of the game properly. Like I said, we still have coaching methods from the 60s and 80s!! And we do not have a system of progression for coaches like Nz. Nobody really knows who the best backline coaches and forward coaches really are. So we end up paying the price for this.
11 Jun 2011, 07:21 am
@munkiboi(munkiboi)-79: are you 100% completely and utterly out of your mind!
Smit at 3!!
FFS my man why dont you just personally go hand over the WC to the opposition!
Most ignorant post I have read on keo in a year!
11 Jun 2011, 11:23 am
What about Sarel Pretorius. Surely he deserves a call up.. Hugaard is a good utility player, but Pretorius has been amazing this year.
12 Jun 2011, 01:20 am
@munkiboi(munkiboi)-79: Smit at 3 is not the worst plan Munki and the results bear that out. If the Boks could get Bismarck, Beast, Smit, Steenkamp all putting in a high intensity shift in one test they would be in a great position. Most times the scrum is not the winning and losing of any game, collisions and rucks as you say carry much greater importance.
12 Jun 2011, 13:10 pm
Keo sounds like his info is dead cert; if it is 10 out & 3 in, please please let it be as ffg:
Out:
Mvovo
Odwa
Meisiekind
Butch
DuaneV
Ashley
Flip
Jannie
Strauss
Coenie
In:
Basson
Sadie
Mujati
On standby:
Viljoen
Mvovo
Meisiekind
Butch
S Pretorius
Ashley
Flip
Jannie
Strauss
Coenie
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