SACS deny foul play

SACS deny foul play

14 Jun 2011

SACS have said that the Primrose U15A player who claimed foul play in a weekend match was ‘legally cleaned’.

They went further to say the player, Imran Fredericks (14), was guilty of serious foul play in the lead up to the incident.

In a text message to keo.co.za, SACS coach Grant Ball said video evidence will show Fredericks eye-gouging their player before he was legally cleaned. He called reports that were circulating in the press, in which Fredericks and Primrose officials claim their player was stomped on, ‘crap’.

Fredericks left the field with a broken nose, cut eye, mild concussion, bruises and swelling. Fredericks was taken to City Park Hospital after leaving the field and then lodged a complaint of assault at Claremont police station on Sunday. However, he was told that the WPRU would have to deal with the case first as it involved two minors during an organised rugby game.

WP general manager of youth rugby Theo Kleynhans confirmed the union will start with their investigation this week.

‘We are aware of the incident and we will investigate the matter,’ Kleyhans told keo.co.za on Monday. ‘But we will have to get the full story from both sides. We can’t just react after hearing things from one team. We will also see if we can get proper evidence, like video recordings and eye witnesses.’

Kleynhans added that foul play wasn’t a major problem in WP junior rugby.

‘This is a rare incident and it will be sorted out. We had a matter last season where a boy hit a referee but that was dealt with accordingly. I wouldn’t say there is a problem with discipline in junior rugby in the WP region.’


49 Comments

  • 1.Grant Ball: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 12:07 pm

    The above quotes are not a statement from SACS and were said in a personal sms to Ryan Vrede, who has shown his journalistic integrity by taking off-the-record comments and quoted me without my permission.

    To clear up (which again shows the amount of research and factual correctness of this keo.co.za article), I’m not the coach of SACS U15A.

    The matter will be investigated by WP Youth Rugby, who have all the video evidence and statements from all parties at their disposal . Hopefully their investigation will be handled swiftly with the final outcome that the truth comes out. I have no doubt SACS will be exonerated.

  • 2.norman: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 12:38 pm

    one should realise that when you talk to the press nothing is off the record.
    i would love to know how this boy obtained all those injuries.
    things have changed these days from the past but my experience with schoolboy rugby was that things seldom got to a stage which warranted any concern.
    who is Ken Ball?

  • 3.gunther is feeling bullish: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 12:50 pm

    Filthy B grade school :lol:

  • 4.stormersboy: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 13:05 pm

    @Grant Ball(Grant Ball)-1: I guess you won’t be invited to the Keo Old Boys reunion then Grant? :)

    Besides fella, everyone knows that you get your facts from Rugby365 and your entertainment from Keo.

  • 5.Valkyrie: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 13:21 pm

    nothing surprises me anymore with this racist nazi-loving afrikaner p ussy ,ryan vrede.he is a sad excuse for a journalist and io hope he gets sorted out real soon.

  • 6.Treehugger: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 13:24 pm

    @Grant Ball(Grant Ball)-1: Didnt you used to write articles here on Keo ?

  • 7.Sasuke: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 13:29 pm

    @Grant Ball(Grant Ball)-1: Jerry!! Jerry!! Jerry!! Jerry!! Jerry!!!

  • 8.stormersboy: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 13:29 pm

    @Treehugger(Treehugger)-6: That’s the one. He now writes for Rugby 365.

  • 9.Valkyrie: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 13:32 pm

    ryan vrede looks like a rent boy.

  • 10.gunther is feeling bullish: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 13:33 pm

    @Valkyrie(Valkyrie)-5:

    shut up maggot.

  • 11.Sasuke: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 13:34 pm

    @stormersboy(stormersboy)-8: Beef is on.

  • 12.Valkyrie: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 13:35 pm

    gunther is a nazi-loving german rent boy

  • 13.Valkyrie: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 13:38 pm

    despicable behaviour from ryan vrede.the sooner the government brings these so-called journalist into line the better.

  • 14.gunther is feeling bullish: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 13:41 pm

    @Valkyrie(Valkyrie)-12:

    @Valkyrie(Valkyrie)-12:

    you are trailer trash

    the best part of you dribbled down your mother’s leg at conception.

    :lol:

  • 15.stormersboy: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 13:44 pm

    @Sasuke(Sasuke)-11: Reminds me of a scene from Anchorman: The legend of Ron Burgundy where the rival news crews have a “rumble”.

    Hillarious stuff.

  • 16.gunther is nazi-loving german rent-boy: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 13:45 pm

    @gunther is feeling bullish(gunther)-14: no need to get so worked-up that you had to double click valkyrie’ post 12.watch your health, rent-boy.

  • 17.gunther is feeling bullish: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 13:48 pm

    @gunther is nazi-loving german rent-boy(Valkyrie)-16:

    pipe down maggot.

    otherwise I will be on the line to social services.

    :lol:

  • 18.Sasuke: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 13:49 pm

    @stormersboy(stormersboy)-15: lol with pitch forks and everything! I love that movie. “milk was a bad choice”

  • 19.Ryan: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 14:02 pm

    @Grant Ball(Grant Ball)-1: Now now Grant, ease up there my boy.

    The text from Grant Ball: ‘…he (Gareth Duncan) could have a great story if he gets the facts. The accusations levelled at those kids – WHO I COACH, WHICH IS WHY I TAKE IT PERSONALLY – have far-reaching implications…’

    Do you want me to publish the entire contents of what you sent me? Thought not.

    Think of me as Ollie Holt and you as Rio Ferdinand (if you don’t follow the news then you won’t get this).

    Grant text me in his capacity as part of the SACS coaching team. As such whatever he said was certainly on the record. He’s cowering now that he sees his words in print. Come now son, you’re supposed to know how the game works.

  • 20.Sasuke: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 14:06 pm

    @Ryan(Ryan)-19: Fight Nite 2011 Deluxe Edition

  • 21.gunther is nazi-loving german rent-boy: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 14:08 pm

    @Ryan(Ryan)-19: Do you want me to publish the entire contents of what you sent me? Thought not.

    always have a laugh when people go that route.did you print your journalism certificate from a chinese website?

  • 22.JockBok: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 14:08 pm

    @Sasuke(Sasuke)-7:

    Hahaha, classic :D

  • 23.JockBok: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 14:12 pm

    @gunther is nazi-loving german rent-boy(Valkyrie)-21:

    100% galantee brudda

    You can allllllmost imagine the contents of the sms. SACS v Primrose??? Hmmm, lemme think????

  • 24.Sasuke: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 14:15 pm

    @JockBok(JockBok)-22: lol i use to love watching that show. its the war of the keyboards and mice over right now.

  • 25.Sasuke: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 14:17 pm

    @Sasuke(Sasuke)-24: disgrantled former employee VS Hot shot Rookie

  • 26.JockBok: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 14:19 pm

    @Sasuke(Sasuke)-25:

    Haha, dirty laundry in public. Gotta love it…

  • 27.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 14:20 pm

    rugbyxv.co.za VS keo.co.za *cue the A-Team series theme music*

  • 28.Ryan: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 14:21 pm

    Guys wait til I take this to KeoTV. Lol! Now there’s some great tv!

  • 29.grant10: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 14:28 pm

    @Ryan(Ryan)-28: keep the dirty laundry off the airwaves Ryan.

    there is far more intersting rugby matters to focus on.

    And Grant Ball is a damn fine writer imo.

  • 30.JockBok: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 14:29 pm

    @Ryan(Ryan)-28:

    Can’t you do a transcript of the keo tv stuff Ryan, for those of us in shiity countries with even shiittier connections? I can’t play video here. Would love to have the Good Hope show available as mp3 as well. I can download them when I’m home every couple of months then listen to them when I’m away?

    C’mon, you know you want toooooo

  • 31.gunther is feeling bullish: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 14:40 pm

    @JockBok(JockBok)-30:

    the thruth and reconciliation commission will have transcripts by then end of the week

    :lol:

  • 32.JockBok: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 14:52 pm

    @gunther is feeling bullish(gunther)-31:

    I see some feet washing coming on.

    Or a Clintonesque ‘I did not talk SACS with that woman’

    :D

  • 33.gunther is feeling bullish: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 14:55 pm

    @JockBok(JockBok)-32:

    Ryan likes a good cigar :lol:

  • 34.Ryan: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 14:56 pm

    Calm down boys, the human rights commission would be after Ball if I revealed his text messages. He’d have to do a Melema and apologise to minority groups in SA. Now we don’t want that…do we?

  • 35.gunther is nazi-loving german rent-boy: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 15:01 pm

    @Ryan(Ryan)-28: not very professional of you to try and ridicule or discredit a fellow colleague like this on an open forum.

  • 36.gunther is feeling bullish: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 15:01 pm

    @Ryan(Ryan)-34:

    Grant = Julius Melanoma?

    Has WP Rugby asked to see the tapes?

  • 37.Ryan: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 15:16 pm

    @gunther is nazi-loving german rent-boy(Valkyrie)-35: Really? I gave up caring what you think a long time ago. Happy you still take interest in me though. Sweet of you.

  • 38.gunther is nazi-loving german rent-boy: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 15:24 pm

    @Ryan(Ryan)-37: not really,but since we are on an open forum i just had to expose you for the hypocrite and sad excuse for a human being and journalist you truly are.

  • 39.Ryan: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 15:28 pm

    @gunther is nazi-loving german rent-boy(Valkyrie)-38: You’re still here? You really are fascinated with me aren’t you?! I don’t blame you. I’m good.

  • 40.JockBok: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 15:57 pm

    @Ryan(Ryan)-39:

    It’s more like slowing down to watch a car crash Ryan. Grant a good friend is he?

  • 41.wallabie.: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 15:57 pm

    @Ryan(Ryan)-19:

    your problem with other journalists is just that….your problem!

    sorry bud but many here are here for rugby and the stoushes between supporters of the different teams not the stoushes between journalists.

    you continue with your personal agenda you will polarise the masses!

  • 42.Treehugger: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 16:36 pm

    Chit, hope i didnt start that nastiness i just read.

  • 43.stormersboy: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 16:39 pm

    @Treehugger(Treehugger)-42: You stirrer you! You’re going to have to change your nick :)

    Having said all this, it has been a most entertaining thread.

    Look out for another nomination for Ryan this year at the press awards under the catagory “best sell out your previous colleague’ catagory.

  • 44.Treehugger: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 16:53 pm

    @stormersboy(stormersboy)-43: LOL, how is your son doing, last i read he was home from hospital.

  • 45.stormersboy: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 16:59 pm

    @Treehugger(Treehugger)-44: He’s doing great thanks, appreciate the concern. The biggest challenge will be to get him to not put weight on his leg for the next 3 weeks. Him mom will be “frazzelled” by the end.

    I’m stocking up on alchohol ;)

  • 46.gunther is nazi-loving german rent-boy: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 18:15 pm

    ryan,i apologise for calling you a rent-boy.friends again?

  • 47.Dawn: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 18:55 pm

    Who sends Ryan sms anyway

  • 48.sparticus: Reply to this comment
    14 Jun 2011, 20:39 pm

    Ryan a good friend of mine gave me this solid advice – be careful how u treat people on ur way up , cos u bound to meet them on ur way down. U have officially scooped down to mark and simons levels congrats.

    Now to the matter at hand , did u guys see the face of this youngster ? Its on iol and the argus. Is SACS seriously gonna turn this around and say he eye gouged one of their players ? How did he sustain such injuries ? And where is the player he eye gouged ? Can we see the results please. I would love to have access to the video footage.

  • 49.whatever: Reply to this comment
    16 Jun 2011, 10:59 am

    Where there is smoke there is fire…………no one gets worked over for f u k all. Has to be a reason. Don’t play with fire if you can’t handle the heat………add any further cliches that may fit………….

Keo.co.za has always promoted uncensored views, but has never tolerated racist or crass outbursts. Come on guys and girls. If you can't moderate yourselves or each other then I am going to be forced to regulate the posts and enforce a registration process for comments. The choice is yours.

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