Comments on: Demolition man

By: Xkreni-WP(Xkreni-WP)

Xkreni-WP(Xkreni-WP) — Fri, 17 Jun 2011 10:02:51 +0000

Now, now ***** boy, have you watched how many guys Spieeeees has marking him?

Verduane Vermeulen if the tough stuff is anything to go by

By: vanhunks(vanhunks)

vanhunks(vanhunks) — Fri, 17 Jun 2011 06:47:04 +0000

@BringItHomeBoks(bokfan1)-21: I wear my motorcycle helmet only when I get on the highway. Spies new he was going on the 'highway' that's why he brought along his helmet. Spies is my 5 choice number 8 after the likes of Duane, Danie, Johnson, Alberts.

By: BringItHomeBoks(bokfan1)

BringItHomeBoks(bokfan1) — Thu, 16 Jun 2011 10:30:43 +0000

@BullDog15(BullDog15)-6: Umm… BullDog is you actually WATCH the game you will see the Bulls had at least 2 guys marking Duanne the WHOLE time to try and nullify him.

Gary Botha, Greyling and Pakslae all had a go at Duanne.

That is how dangerous and valuable he is – the Sharks also marked him at all times with Bismark (who lost the battle) and Alberts.

Give the oke some credit, the Bulls obviously rated him and did their best to try and contain him.

What exactly did Spies do in the game? Besides wearing a scrum-cap (presumably this means he is SERIOUS).

By: Kietzphat(Kietzphat)

Kietzphat(Kietzphat) — Thu, 16 Jun 2011 10:07:36 +0000

@munkiboi(munkiboi)-19:

That’s pretty out of the box thinking there…

But I think we have enough quality number 8′s in the country.

In ’95, line outs weren’t really a factor based on not being able to lift. Christie wanted the athleticism of Hannes and Andrews but also Kobus’ scrumming power.
Andrews also had some loose forward experience having played there at school and u21. Don’t think Bekker has any number 8 experience really.

Spies’ probably would’ve been the no 8 at the ’07 WC had he not come down with his “blood disease”. Pakslae also had quite a bit of loose forward experience, having played a lot of no 7 at the ’03 world cup.

He’s more a loosie who can play lock than the other way around.
We also didn’t really have any other no 8′s. Kanko only made his debut after the world cup.

Vermeulen, Alberts, Pakslae… Any of those 3 I’d be very very happy with at number 8. Probably Pakslae first on form. Let the other two have a streetfight to sort it out.

But nice thinking. Keep it coming.

By: munkiboi(munkiboi)

munkiboi(munkiboi) — Thu, 16 Jun 2011 09:52:32 +0000

i just had a moment of genius……

in 1995, mark andrews (lock) played 8 because we had kobus wiese and hannes strydom.

in 2007, danie rossouw played 8 because we had matfield and bakkies.

maybe we should be playing bekker at 8 in 2011.

he has the skills to make an awesome 8. he carries the ball well, makes telling offloads. is a monster in the tackle and is better playing looser.

By: munkiboi(munkiboi)

munkiboi(munkiboi) — Thu, 16 Jun 2011 09:49:32 +0000

burger is a better 8 in my opinion.

By: CT Shark(CT Shark)

CT Shark(CT Shark) — Thu, 16 Jun 2011 09:40:59 +0000

What JC forgot to mention in his article is that Vermeulen has the least amount of running meters gained out of any of the 8th men in the country. Yes he can tackle, yes he’ll front up in the tough stuff……but he wont get you over the gain line and he’s essentially a cart-horse when it comes to speed around the park.

He has no finesse and there is no intelligence in his play at all! He try’s to run “over” an opponent at every chance. Doesn’t look for gaps, has no passing game whatsoever…and therefore will never be able to put a quicker player away in space or link with the back line.

Nah sorry chaps….this guy is NOT an international 8th man. He’s just a dim-bulb bruiser that likes to play rugby.

By: willievz(willievz)

willievz(willievz) — Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:39:49 +0000

He is a very good 8. But I don’t know if he is an international 8.

Personally I won’t take him to the WC, but won’t throw my toys out of the cot if he gets selected.

I still rate Burger at 8, and like the look of Strauss at 8.

By: Tbozknows(Tbozknows)

Tbozknows(Tbozknows) — Thu, 16 Jun 2011 07:50:46 +0000

I saw this man in Sandton and heish, what a monster of a man. He deserves to be a Bok in my book. He offers a different dimension which is impiortant. he is a grafter. Players like Kanko amnd Spies are luxury players. You can’t afford to have guys like spies and kanko to win every test match. Duane is your man, with his bone crushing defence.

By: grant10(grant10)

grant10(grant10) — Thu, 16 Jun 2011 06:46:18 +0000

taking conditions into account I would leave Spies and Kanko at home and take Alberts and Duane to the WC…..

but we all know spies wil go.

By: Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)

Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis) — Thu, 16 Jun 2011 04:36:18 +0000

“….across his moon-shaped face. His hands transform into forget-me-nots as he extols the virtues of defence and physicality as a teenager would the qualities of an unrequited love.”

Oh boy. Last time Francois Louw was the boy next door with the cheeky grin or something…

By: k.camron(k.camron)

k.camron(k.camron) — Wed, 15 Jun 2011 06:26:25 +0000

Ashley should be ahead this guy,johnson has not been found wanting. In. Any of the big games this year and his handling,running lines ,reading of the game is streaks ahead of any SA eightman at the moment.

By: Cheetah 4 Eva(Cheetah 4 Eva)

Cheetah 4 Eva(Cheetah 4 Eva) — Wed, 15 Jun 2011 06:13:53 +0000

Vermeulen is a good 8. He might not be as hyped as Spies and Kanko, but he is a grafter, and he is abrasive. Imho, we would be well served with Josh Strauss, Johnson, and Vermeulen playing 8. If I had a “magic lamp” I would merge Vermeulen with Spies!

Then we would have a gym bunny with aggression and mongrel. At the moment we have the gym bunny playing like a pansy! Kank is fast, and run’s good lines, but he is not the type of 8 that we need. Then rather get Big Joe here, he is also fast, and strong, but he has more mongrel than Kanko

Give guys like Vermeulen, and Strauss a run in the Tri- Nations

By: Taahirah(Taahirah)

Taahirah(Taahirah) — Wed, 15 Jun 2011 05:40:09 +0000

One of those boxes he ticks is apparently the pie-eating one.

By: seabiscuit(seabiscuit)

seabiscuit(seabiscuit) — Wed, 15 Jun 2011 05:20:39 +0000

Big fan, but……has been very quiet in the last few big games and that is worrying, I dnt c another option at 8, long shot is Johnson he’ll even Josh Strauss but no8 is our biggest worry for this squad

By: HHS(Hop Hop Spinnekop)

HHS(Hop Hop Spinnekop) — Wed, 15 Jun 2011 05:18:58 +0000

I really don’t know what the fuss around this guy is.

By: stew(stew)

stew(stew) — Wed, 15 Jun 2011 05:15:17 +0000

If PDivvy has any wish to win this world cup he will try Duane and Ashley at no 8 during the Tri Nations – he knows what he has with Spies /kanko – also allows more test experience for these two players

By: BullDog15(BullDog15)

BullDog15(BullDog15) — Wed, 15 Jun 2011 04:52:24 +0000

Pakslae will cut him down to size. One dimensional cart horse…that is Duane. What happened to Duane owning Spies on Saturday?

By: Slartibartfast(Slartibartfast)

Slartibartfast(Slartibartfast) — Wed, 15 Jun 2011 04:37:12 +0000

@whatever(whatever)-4:

No really, I fear for his life!

By: whatever(whatever)

whatever(whatever) — Wed, 15 Jun 2011 04:32:47 +0000

@Slartibartfast(Slartibartfast)-3: hehe, fishing boet.......