Comments on: Taking Super lessons to heart

By: TheTackler(TheTackler)

TheTackler(TheTackler) — Wed, 22 Jun 2011 01:19:20 +0000

The Rebels AND the Lions were this year’s soft match-ups, but a year or two ago it was the Lions and the Queensland “rubble” Reds. And, before that, the Lions and the new kids on the block from Perth.

Now the Reds are the table-toppers. And the Perth Force are mid-table. The Lions haven’t moved much. The Aussies have found ways and means of fixing what’s broken and, no doubt, the Melbourne Rebels of 2012 won’t be the same deal as the inaugural 2011 version.

Where will the 2012 Lions be?

By: Is not on the Sadie bandwagon(Sasori)

Is not on the Sadie bandwagon(Sasori) — Tue, 21 Jun 2011 17:59:50 +0000

Too much rugby!

Not so much in the Super 15, but in general. The north and South need to find a way to sync their schedules. That a tough one though. The North won’t want to play in their summer, and we sure as hell won’t want to have to play in summer.

Perhaps 4/5 months of Regional competitions from February to June.

Then 3 /4months for international games from Aug to Now.

Splitting the season might not be great though but what else?

End of year tours don’t interest me as much anymore. Peeps tour to the south and are not at their best, andwe tour north and we are not at our best.

By: sparticus(sparticus)

sparticus(sparticus) — Tue, 21 Jun 2011 16:35:58 +0000

I wonder then if we will see weaker bok/aussie and abs squads for the incoming tours ? Or maybe the overseas policy will be more relaxed and franchises resting their stars during this period. Certainly seems like a win win situation

By: stormersboy(stormersboy)

stormersboy(stormersboy) — Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:38:01 +0000

@Frik(frikodel)-9: I like that idea very much, a-la- Heinecken Cup.

By: Frik(frikodel)

Frik(frikodel) — Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:29:46 +0000

Also maybe open it up to the Argies to keep their players on the same schedule for the quad nations?

4 teams from SA,NZ,Oz and 2 from Argentina? Tucaman Vs Crusaders? Anyone?

By: Frik(frikodel)

Frik(frikodel) — Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:28:16 +0000

Any thoughts on making the CC/S15 into a Premier/Champions league setup?

Top 4 or 5 CC provinces from previous year qualify and the S15 is based on pools of 4/5 mixed (SA/Oz/NZ) teams that play through out the extended CC season before a quarter/semis/finals?

I don’t see why the CC has to suffer because Oz can’t keep a 1st division rugby competition going…

By: Bouts(Bouts)

Bouts(Bouts) — Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:06:54 +0000

1) Give Griquas the 6th franchise; and
2) Move the CurrieCup to the start of the season… currently known as the South African Conference of the Super Series.

By: PissAnt(PissAnt)

PissAnt(PissAnt) — Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:01:42 +0000

@JC(JC)-6:

I am just thinking how Boks will be pulled out mid-way (or to the end) of the Super Rugby season from next year for incoming tours.

There will be some vested interests from both SA Rugby and franchises on certain players, better to work together on that, and the only way that will happen is if they come to some sort of contractual (read financial) agreement which will apply for the period (January to August) rather than competitions (Super Rugby and Bok tours/3N) both are directly responsible for.

This will be the first time Boks will be called up in the middle of another SANZAR competition…

Permutations here is very interesting, perhaps worthwhile to investigate…

By: JC(JC)

JC(JC) — Tue, 21 Jun 2011 12:56:43 +0000

@PissAnt(PissAnt)-5:Agree re the central contracting, but Boks will still be contracted for Super Rugby franchises over period of 7 months a year (Feb to August)

By: PissAnt(PissAnt)

PissAnt(PissAnt) — Tue, 21 Jun 2011 12:52:00 +0000

However, if we are to consider a silver lining, this might be the catalyst to force SA Rugby to consider a central contract system as I cannot see unions footing the bill of 12 month’s salaries for players they only have available in Super Rugby…

By: PissAnt(PissAnt)

PissAnt(PissAnt) — Tue, 21 Jun 2011 12:50:33 +0000

@JC(JC)-3: Correct. The CC will take on the importance or appeal of the Vodacom Cup.

By: JC(JC)

JC(JC) — Tue, 21 Jun 2011 12:48:31 +0000

@PissAnt(PissAnt)-2: The days of the Boks playing CC rugby are over. Considering that the Four Nations starts in September 2012, don't see how the top players will find time for the CC

By: PissAnt(PissAnt)

PissAnt(PissAnt) — Tue, 21 Jun 2011 12:34:46 +0000

Of greater importance or rather interest to me will be the Currie Cup.

I have long now held the view that the Currie Cup has lost its appeal, only living up to the competition of old in the last 2 or 3 rounds and play-off’s.

Given that all our Super Rugby coaches are also coaches of the CC teams, I think even greater emphasis will be placed on developing squads for Super Rugby using the Currie Cup, further devaluating the competition.

The CC will be demoted to a development competition in all but name (as the premier domestic competition).

By: NicG(NicG)

NicG(NicG) — Tue, 21 Jun 2011 12:30:03 +0000

Tactical Dragons