KeoTV: End the false Crusade

KeoTV: End the false Crusade

30 Jun 2011

MARK KEOHANE and RYAN VREDE hope the Stormers make the Cape Crusaders cry at Newlands.


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  • 51.crazy monkey: Reply to this comment
    29 Jun 2011, 19:26 pm

    Keo wants the locals to support their home town team, but he’s from Cape Town and supports the Bulls??? What a load of drivel.
    So if a Capetonian supports the Crusaders because they play more attractive rugby, you want them to start supporting the Stormers instead because they have more coloured boys in the team?? Huh?! Isn’t that a little racist???
    And please stop using the example of people carrying the Vierkleur or the old South African flag into stadiums as a counter point for your argument. People waving those flags are offending their fellow South Africans at a much deeper level, while those supporting the Crusaders are just supporting a different team in a game (let’s remember that’s all it is).
    As for their behaviour, there is no excuse for behaving like a lout, no matter who you support, but then again I’ve seen plenty of South African fans, after a few too many Castles, behaving like they’ve just crawled out of a sewer – it’s not behaviour that’s reserved for ‘Cape Crusader’ fans.

  • 52.wooden spoon: Reply to this comment
    29 Jun 2011, 19:40 pm

    Look, we all know these fools don’t just “support” the Crusaders for playing “attractive” rugby.

    That’s just a convenient say-so to gloss over the real truth.

    PS. I support the team where my family is based, where I grew up, went to school, etc. i.e I have ties to the region. I have never felt the need or urge to shift teams with the season based on the level of “attractive” rugby played, and certainly feel no affinity whatsoever to any other team from a different region (including those other teams in SA).

    No thanks, my team is my team. I don’t flip flop and I do not support a [hugely successful] team to be outwardly antagonistic.

  • 53.Dwis: Reply to this comment
    29 Jun 2011, 20:10 pm

    What I want to know is what exactly must change at the wprfu for these people to stop supporting foreign teams? What do they want to see happening in South African rugby?

  • 54.Andre_WP: Reply to this comment
    29 Jun 2011, 20:30 pm

    Lekker Keo my friend , we will beat them , sorry for all those cape coloureds , they going to cry because the first S15 cup is coming to cape town. Sorry Bulls sorry NZ teams , sorry cape coloureds , i am one but i support a good team the Stormers all the way , we been waiting for a long time , our time is now !

  • 55.oscarthedawg: Reply to this comment
    29 Jun 2011, 20:43 pm

    @Dwis(Dwis)-53: Cape Talk hadf a radio show about it this afternoon. John Maytham asked one guy who phoned in that question. His answer? “Nothing will make me support South African teams.”

  • 56.rangerman: Reply to this comment
    29 Jun 2011, 20:50 pm

    that video was hugely entertaining.

    from capesaders to “barbarians” :lol:

    seriously ryan and keo, that was hilarious.

  • 57.trollZA: Reply to this comment
    29 Jun 2011, 20:59 pm

    @Taahirah

    Not sure why you mentioning m.steyn and the bulls – I’m referring to the stormsaders booing the stormer’s kicker when they played the saders at newlands.

    I too am annoyed by the attention these clowns are getting, there was a special insert about them on the news the other night. As I said couldn’t care less if they want to support the saders, but they mustn’t be allowed to act like hooligans at the stadium and reduce the quality of the match for players and spectators alike. Hooliganism in all forms from all spectators should be clamped down on, whether its booing and jeering at the kicker or trying to flash a laser pointer in his eyes. Anyone who watched that saders/stormers game could see the stormsaders were behaving like complete dicks. I hate how this **** always gets a political spin on it, it really doesn’t matter what colour they are. Get out.

    I also totally disagree with this bs of ‘get over, its a part of sport’. Sure we cannot eliminate this behaviour completely, but if we just accept it, the situation will get worse and worse. That guy who tackled the ref a couple years back was a complete arsehole and so are “some” of these stormsader fans.

  • 58.Wezwp: Reply to this comment
    29 Jun 2011, 21:06 pm

    @wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-50: you forget we one of those teams that lost a home semi to the highlanders. i just pray we pull through on Saturday……and btw i am a coloured that love the stormers win or lose.

  • 59.Wezwp: Reply to this comment
    29 Jun 2011, 21:09 pm

    just you white boys be thankful we not kaizer chiefs supporters.

  • 60.Wezwp: Reply to this comment
    29 Jun 2011, 21:30 pm

    @Wezwp(Wezwp)-59: ignore that stupid comment.

  • 61.Wezwp: Reply to this comment
    29 Jun 2011, 21:31 pm

    my prediction: Crusaders 19 stormers 20

  • 62.>^..^< katman: Reply to this comment
    29 Jun 2011, 21:50 pm

    If a smattering of Mighty Half Blacks could raise the funds to make the trip from Bonteheuwel to, say, Bloemfontein, I’d like to see them boo the local team against the Crusaders. Because that sht doesn’t travel well to all parts of the Rainbow Nation.

  • 63.AssassinWP: Reply to this comment
    29 Jun 2011, 21:51 pm

    What about all that stupid Bulls supporters supporting the Bulls when they down in Cape Town DAMN!!!!!Go STORMERS

  • 64.Puma: Reply to this comment
    29 Jun 2011, 22:02 pm

    @Wezwp(Wezwp)-58: Stormers the only team to have lost a semi to a NZ team playing a semi in SA, in 1999. NO SA side has won a semi in NZ ever. So the travel factor is huge.

    Go Stormers. Good luck to your team buddy. I really hope they win.

  • 65.Puma: Reply to this comment
    29 Jun 2011, 22:04 pm

    @AssassinWP(Ashraf Ismail)-63: Cause those Bulls supporters are actually from Pretoria now living in Cape Town. So naturally they would support their own.

    Just like you see a massive turn out of Stormer/Shark Supporters at Loftus when they play Bulls there. Those supporters did once live in Cape Town and Durban but now live in Joburg, but still support their team from where they came from. Makes sense to me. :wink:

  • 66.>^..^< katman: Reply to this comment
    29 Jun 2011, 22:18 pm

    Nice little write-up and video montage of Schalk Brits on Rugbydump:

    http://rugbydump.blogspot.com/2011/06/schalk-brits-man-of-match-performance.html

  • 67.AssassinWP: Reply to this comment
    29 Jun 2011, 22:25 pm

    @Puma does make sense but its bloody irratating going to Newlands to watch the beloved Stormers and half the stadium clad in light Blue also all the Blue Bulls supporters i’v encountered has never been to Fortress Loftus or let alone set foot in Pretoria an its a Moerse klomp……….Go Stormers,STORM SAAM!!!!

  • 68.rugby911: Reply to this comment
    29 Jun 2011, 23:40 pm

    @>^..^< katman(katman)-66: superb

  • 69.Yetirat: Reply to this comment
    29 Jun 2011, 23:54 pm

    Mullets and Vtechs. Love it!

  • 70.captain fantail: Reply to this comment
    30 Jun 2011, 03:45 am

    ha ha just watched the video…boys stick to what u do best,,,,not appearing in videos. How f’n stupid are u going to look if the Stormers get beaten after the Crusaders have done all the travel , no home ground advantage, four south african officials and a weeks rest. I hope for this reason alone the Crusaders shove it rite up ewe ;-)

  • 71.Slartibartfast: Reply to this comment
    30 Jun 2011, 03:50 am

    captain Fanny, I though it was great!

  • 72.captain fantail: Reply to this comment
    30 Jun 2011, 03:51 am

    Its all a bit of fun!

  • 73.dwightschrute: Reply to this comment
    30 Jun 2011, 04:17 am

    48: wooden spoon

    totally agree – there is nothing objectionable about using a crusader as a mascot….it could be any type of crusader right ?

    after all – the crusaders have medieval knights riding on horses before their home games

    all my crusaders gear just happens to have a logo with a medieval crusader knight on it…………just a co incidence

    by the way…i saw the nsw waratahs mascot tah man on the weekend at my kids rugby games and he was tackled over by some fat kids……i would prefer a crusader over any lame tahman mascot anyday

    look out for the next super franchise ….the fascist nazi baby seal clubbing terrorists….

  • 74.CoachPete: Reply to this comment
    30 Jun 2011, 04:36 am

    Hey this guy drowning his sorrows early :)

    A drunk Jetstar passenger just couldn’t seem to make it to the lavatory, instead using the airplane aisle to relieve himself. And, he got off with only a warning.

    The New Zealand man was on a flight from Auckland to Singapore Monday, and had been seen by passengers before the flight drinking whiskey with friends out of Burger King cups.

    Six hours into the eleven-hour flight, he then proceeded to let loose in the aisle – urinating on the carpet, a man’s leg and a woman’s scarf, reports the New Zealand Herald

  • 75.Slartibartfast: Reply to this comment
    30 Jun 2011, 04:47 am

    @CoachPete(CoachPete)-74:

    You mean besides going to Brisbane via Singapore?!

  • 76.CoachPete: Reply to this comment
    30 Jun 2011, 04:56 am

    @Slartibartfast(Slartibartfast)-75:
    Nope he figures no chance this Sat vs Stormers :)

  • 77.KevinRack: Reply to this comment
    30 Jun 2011, 05:04 am

    What a bunch of freaks…Keo where is your Manchester supporters gear? Let them support who they want.

    Calling yourself the Crusaders is no accident and the Crisaders were worse than the mass killing Nazis. It will be like starting the S15 team Team Taliban, Team Kmer Rhouge, Team Haliburton!
    Are there any links between this team and the free masons???

    Cant see the Stormers winning this one. I would love for them to win but I think Jantjies on fullback instead of Aplon is stoopid, and dropping JDJ?????

  • 78.Slartibartfast: Reply to this comment
    30 Jun 2011, 05:25 am

    @CoachPete(CoachPete)-76:

    Auckland, he is heading for Brisbane…

  • 79.CoachPete: Reply to this comment
    30 Jun 2011, 05:27 am

    @Slartibartfast(Slartibartfast)-78:
    he was drunk confused and knows Saders will lose

  • 80.Slartibartfast: Reply to this comment
    30 Jun 2011, 05:32 am

    @CoachPete(CoachPete)-79:

    Well Coach, if he realised all THAT he could not have been that drunk, surely?! I mean I usually ‘feel’ clever (and strong) when I am drunk but it always turns out I was not that bright after all… ;-)

  • 81.CoachPete: Reply to this comment
    30 Jun 2011, 05:38 am

    @Slartibartfast(Slartibartfast)-80:
    I think this guy was also not that bright
    He drank whiskey out of a Burger king cup
    Got on the wrong flight to Cape town
    Then missed the toilet seat by 30 meters

  • 82.Slartibartfast: Reply to this comment
    30 Jun 2011, 05:40 am

    @CoachPete(CoachPete)-81:

    Hahaha drank is ‘n euwel!!!!!!

  • 83.CoachPete: Reply to this comment
    30 Jun 2011, 05:42 am

    @Slartibartfast(Slartibartfast)-82:
    Maybe it was Black Panther :)

  • 84.Slartibartfast: Reply to this comment
    30 Jun 2011, 05:50 am

    @CoachPete(CoachPete)-83:

    Hahaha maybe but I think he sits when he p!

  • 85.CoachPete: Reply to this comment
    30 Jun 2011, 05:56 am

    @Slartibartfast(Slartibartfast)-84:
    :)

  • 86.poppa69: Reply to this comment
    30 Jun 2011, 06:10 am

    rugby genius

    teach your son to respect other people’s property and then he would not have had a fight

    simple ne?

  • 87.stormer in a teacup: Reply to this comment
    30 Jun 2011, 06:11 am

    @CoachPete(CoachPete)-74: Id wondered what happened to Steve Walsh. :)

  • 88.seabiscuit: Reply to this comment
    30 Jun 2011, 07:32 am

    after this video n the outfit ryan is wearing im sure if he did play rugby he was either a wing or flyhalf no doubt, but, i agree everyone in sa as a whole has gotta back the stormers we wanna keep the super rugby title in this country!!!! im a sharks and ill be shouting for the stormers, oh and the blues because we want a home final again!!!

  • 89.davidv: Reply to this comment
    30 Jun 2011, 08:47 am

    Keo, what a joke. You are the only “journalist” who finds it acceptable to curse.

    True journalist grow through their stories and insights. You my friend, are more like Jerry Springer and you rely on cursing and the basic demise of human moral standards to gain popularity.

    What a joke. By all means continue with your ways, but at least drop the journalist rubbish.

    David

  • 90.reaper_kzn: Reply to this comment
    30 Jun 2011, 08:57 am

    @wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-48:

    In previous seasons the Crusaders had guys on horseback dressed as knights galloping around the stadium. Unless there was another bunch of knights that went on a non-religious crusade the reference seems pretty clear.

  • 91.rossoneri: Reply to this comment
    30 Jun 2011, 09:33 am

    Keo called it Stormers by 10. Mmmmmmhh I love it when Keo makes predictions. :lol:

  • 92.Atreides: Reply to this comment
    30 Jun 2011, 09:35 am

    @davidv(davidv)-89: lol don’t you have some knitting to do? Maybe write an outraged letter to a newspaper?

  • 93.KWAGGA ROBERTSE: Reply to this comment
    30 Jun 2011, 10:10 am

    Heheheh!!!! Very entertaining Keo and Ryan. Had a lekker chuckle.

  • 94.jamied: Reply to this comment
    30 Jun 2011, 10:42 am

    A little personality in SA rugga…I loved that clip boys…getting well excited for Saturday!

    As for who you support I’m a long suffering Lions fan. I became that way when I was little and I’ve stuck by them, through thick and thin. Isn’t it a sign of a true supporter that people who turned to the Kiwi’s in darker days are now still loyal to them? I have no problem with locals supporting the crusaders, and I make no judgements on them. Free will and all.

    However I really enjoyed the guts and appeal in this clip. The articles come across whiney and berating but in the clip it’s a genuine plea from the heart. I like that. Let the stormers win over the new generation then;)

    This week I had mates staying at the Cullinan and they had nothing but good things to say about the Crusaders staying there (except that they tend to crowd out the space in the lift…big team this.)

    Last time I supported the Stormers was when they got knocked out at the Newlands Semi in ’99. By the Saders with Blackadder as Captain. The boys went on the strike before he game. I felt personally cheated as a fan.

    Perhaps this weekend as someone born in Cape Town, and now living here again, I can be a proud Stormers fans. (Though deep down my Lions will always be #1;))

  • 95.wooden spoon: Reply to this comment
    30 Jun 2011, 10:45 am

    @dwightschrute(dwightschrute)-73: @reaper_kzn(reaper_kzn)-90: I don’t find the term “Crusader” offensive, in any shape or form. It’s a part of history, long dead and a product of different times.

    Eating pork is offensive to Muslims, have you stopped eating that too?

    It’s some lame “theoretical” offence you’ve dreamed up, don’t get your knickers in a knot over nothing.

  • 96.Bokfan23: Reply to this comment
    30 Jun 2011, 10:47 am

    Hey Bok fans, how come the Springbok facebook page only has 370 000 fans and our population is 49 000 000! But the NZ All Black facebook page has 900 000 fans and their population is only 4 000 000!! I’m sure we could beat the All Blacks facebook fan page before the World Cup starts! Come on SA..!!!! Bokkkkkkee…!

  • 97.wooden spoon: Reply to this comment
    30 Jun 2011, 10:48 am

    ps LOVED the video!

  • 98.Nils: Reply to this comment
    30 Jun 2011, 11:00 am

    Good rant. :)

    Nevermind, Crusaders to win despite video, Joubert and Stormers.

  • 99.cane: Reply to this comment
    30 Jun 2011, 12:52 pm

    An entertaining litttle outburst by the Two Stooges.

  • 100.Reegs: Reply to this comment
    30 Jun 2011, 12:53 pm

    What a load of BS. I bet you Keo & friend have never played rugby in their lives before. Keo you can NEVER try and convince us to support the Stormers – this is a game being played by 2 teams … not politics. I can support who I want and that team is the All Blacks! What freaks me out more is that you make certain comments that you can’t substantiate. Like the one of how many coloureds are in the Stormers team …. yes pls tell me … my latest count was 3 out of the match 15 & 4 out of the 22. After all these years since unification there are a shameful 4 in your 22 … of the 4 in the 22 us coloureds can only associate with 2 (Gio Aplon & Juan De Jongh), since they are the only 2 non-whites within the whole of WP/Boland in the Stormers team (the other 2 are imports from Gauteng, just by the way) …. And you say the team is transformed …. WHAT TRANSFORMATION? Further to think that there are more non-white players in WP than whites, but the team can only produce 2 players from within the borders (excl. the imports). Please get your facts straight before talking sh@t. As for the comments about the supposed rudeness of Cape Crusaders fans. Well I was there and I can tell you that you are blowing this way out of proportion … I have been abused by much worse than that by Springbok supporters all over SA, so I think it’s just sour grapes from your side – after getting beaten by a Crusaders B-TEAM. Win or lose on Saturday I will still support my MIGHTY CRUSADERS. Yes, they are brilliant, but also human. So even a lost for Crusaders/All Blacks won’t change my support for them …. it’s been 32 years of support for the All Blacks! All Blacks for live!

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