KeoTV: Saders red hot favourites

KeoTV: Saders red hot favourites

8 Jul 2011

RYAN VREDE says the Crusaders will have too much class and experience for the Reds and MARK KEOHANE says the value bet is not in the outcome but in the nature of the first score.


13 Comments

  • 1.willievz: Reply to this comment
    8 Jul 2011, 17:22 pm

    Crusaders have class but they will be too tired.

  • 2.he's not the messiah. he's a very naughty boy!: Reply to this comment
    8 Jul 2011, 17:32 pm

    already bet on the reds.

  • 3.Nils: Reply to this comment
    8 Jul 2011, 18:21 pm

    Crusaders by 5+. Despite all odds of tiredness, homesickness and Brisbane crowd.

  • 4.daydreamer: Reply to this comment
    8 Jul 2011, 19:49 pm

    Reds were top of the log, they beat the Crusaders earlier in the tournament and they are in great form.

    Red hot Reds to win it!

  • 5.lapoftherugbygods: Reply to this comment
    8 Jul 2011, 23:54 pm

    Regardless of whether the Crusaders win lor lose. They have singlehandedly consigned the travel excuse to the dustbin. It just shows that great teams overcome all obstacles and dont whinge about the challenge. They have travelled 10,000 + km to get to the final. That alone is an extraordinary achievement.
    They are champions tonight regardless of the final score and Stu Dickinson critical blunder last time they played.

  • 6.wooden spoon: Reply to this comment
    8 Jul 2011, 23:56 pm

    @lapoftherugbygods(lapoftherugbygods)-5: Not really. The Crusaders are just THAT much better than anyone else, travel or no travel.

  • 7.Puma: Reply to this comment
    9 Jul 2011, 00:08 am

    Not really sure about this pick on bru.

    Think Saders are a far better team than Reds. Though with the Aussie one never knows, they never give up….always ready for a battle. Just have to weigh it up a bit. Reds never played the play off games. So had a rest there never had to travel. So a extra plus there. Had a good work out against the Blues. Saders will be really travel weary by the time the time they play in Brissie. Though the adrenaline to win for the Chch disaster will give them the extra fuel. Then Brisbane faced disaster with the floods this year as well. That could get the Reds going. Also their unbelievable climb from beaten 92/3 in 2007 by the Bulls to now top the whole S15 tourney. That could give any team a massive boost.

    For me tomorrows game will be up for grabs. May the best team win.

    But the Sader forwards are way better than the Reds. Will the travel get to the Saders or will the huge occasion holding the SuperRugby final get to the Reds?

    May the best team win.

  • 8.Black Panther: Reply to this comment
    9 Jul 2011, 03:23 am

    Interesting….

    “Former South African captain Wynand Claasen is to lead a “Reconciliation Tour” of Springboks and fans to the World Cup in New Zealand later this year, to mark the 30th anniversary of the highly controversial 1981 tour.

    Claasen led the team which played the last official tests against the All Blacks under apartheid that year before a decade of isolation set in.

    He said this week the aim was a reunion of close teammates and also “to embrace New Zealand and show we’re not so bad”.

    He hoped 20 of the 28-man 1981 squad plus 40 supporters would travel with him in September to meet their old adversaries, rekindle tour memories, good and bad, and pay respects to those New Zealanders who stood by them.

    Some of the’81 squad (hooker Robbie Cockrell and lock Louis Moolman) had died while others, like flyhalf Naas Botha and fullback Johan Heunis, had commitments at home (Botha will commentate on the event for TV from South Africa)

    But Claasen expected most of the rest would to be on the plane. And hooker Shaun Povey and centre Willie du Plessis who’d since emigrated to Australia would join them here.

    Andy Dalton, the 1981 All Black captain, had been asked to arrange a reception in Auckland where Claasen hoped to see old friends such as Murray Mexted and Billy Bush.

    He expressed special affection for Bush, the captain of the Maori team the Springboks played on that tour and “a great friend of South Africa”.

    Bush told the Weekend Herald he hoped a “good number” of the’81 All Blacks would meet their Springbok offsiders. He remembered being banned from his local freezing works for going on the 1976 tour to South Africa, where he was targeted on account of his skin colour.

    Five years later, the emotion his Maori teammates took into their game with the’Boks was remarkable. “Just before we kicked off, I said, ‘These guys think they’re superior. We’re just **** to them.’ And that really got the boys stoked up.”

    Asked how he felt now about the controversial tour now, Claasen said: “1981 was a very different time.
    It was sad to see anti-South Africa feeling in New Zealand.

    We were young guys who just wanted to beat the All Blacks. But, looking back, maybe South Africa had to go through that process to see the anti-South Africa, anti-government feeling.”

  • 9.Frank Lind: Reply to this comment
    9 Jul 2011, 04:00 am

    The South African accent isn’t the prettiest is it.
    Mind due, the Aussie and NZ accents aren’t much better.

    Saders will win simply because in most positions they have the better player and they have the extra motivation of the earthquake – imagine the team talk b4 the game starts.

    I think they will win comfortably

  • 10.Slartibartfast: Reply to this comment
    9 Jul 2011, 08:20 am

    If you look at the odds the Crusaders just need to pitch to win this one! Forget all the travel, forget the home ground it is all the Crusaders. Even in the tipping we see only a few going for the Reds….I don’t get it.

    But for the record, nice sunny day in Brisbane with a little wind which will sruggle to get into Suncorp.

  • 11.horiman: Reply to this comment
    9 Jul 2011, 08:49 am

    Panther, interesting article. The 1981 Springbok tour was and still is, one of the most divisive events in the history of our country. Its impact is still felt by many, and went far beyond just another rugby tour. Communities and families were split over the Governments decision at the time, to allow this tour to take place. Ordinary Kiwi’s on both sides of the spectrum, went to extraordinary lengths in their opposition to each others views on this matter. Often resorting to violence. This is not a reconciliation tour, its an attempt to reignite old hatreds against a despised ideology. I saw a photo of John Minto posing outside Eden Park yesterday, no doubt he and his followers will again steal the limelight on what should be a celebration of rugby kinship. So stay home guys. This sort of celebration/re-union is not wanted in this country.

  • 12.Bouts: Reply to this comment
    9 Jul 2011, 09:09 am

    Hey Ryan Vrede! It must be eating away at you that your Kings team (full strength) can’t even win a patched together up-n-coming Cheetahs team! LOL! Moron!

  • 13.Dusky: Reply to this comment
    11 Jul 2011, 13:52 pm

    Eina Ryan !

Keo.co.za has always promoted uncensored views, but has never tolerated racist or crass outbursts. Come on guys and girls. If you can't moderate yourselves or each other then I am going to be forced to regulate the posts and enforce a registration process for comments. The choice is yours.

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