PdV ‘rewards form’
19 Jul 2011
The Springboks have named four uncapped players in their match 22 to face Australia in Sydney .
There are debuts for props Werner Kruger and Dean Greyling, as well as flank Ashley Johnson, who all start, while scrumhalf Charl McLeod could get his first cap off the bench.
Openside flank Heinrich Brüssow has failed to recover sufficiently from injury to be considered, but Johann Muller has, and starts in the second row. CJ van der Linde, who Springbok coach last week said was a serious injury concern, plays off the wood.
The versatile Danie Rossouw is deployed at blindside flank in a back row that features Johnson and Bulls fetcher Deon Stegmann. In the back division Ruan Pienaar and Morné Steyn run on as the halfback pair, with Wynand Olivier and Juan de Jongh in midfield.
The back three features players with pace to burn in the form of Gio Aplon, Bjorn Basson and Lwazi Mvovo.
Springbok coach Peter de Villiers said: ‘The new caps had outstanding Super Rugby seasons and this is an exciting opportunity for them. They have been rewarded for their form and now it’s up to them. We have got some new combinations, but there is a lot of potential in this side and the players are hungry for this chance.’
The inexperience of the pack is a concern, in particular the two rookie props. However, captain John Smit expressed his utmost confidence in them.
‘They’ll be nervous and I’m pretty sure Australia will want to have a crack at them as well up front,’ he said. “I’m sure they’ll understand that but the boys have stepped up every week in Super 15 so I can’t see it being any different in a Test match.’
The players in the squad to miss out on selections are: Brüssow, Elton Jantjies, Ryan Kankowski, Odwa Ndungane, Coenie Oosthuizen and Adriaan Strauss.
South Africa: 15 Gio Aplon, 14 Bjorn Basson, 13 Juan de Jongh, 12 Wynand Olivier, 11 Lwazi Mvovo, 10 Morné Steyn, 9 Ruan Pienaar, 8 Ashley Johnson, 7 Danie Rossouw, 6 Deon Stegmann, 5 Johann Muller, 4 Flip van der Merwe, 3 Werner Kruger, 2 John Smit (c), 1 Dean Greyling.
Subs: 16 Chiliboy Ralepelle, 17 CJ van der Linde, 18 Alistair Hargreaves, 19 Jean Deysel, 20 Charl McLeod, 21 Adi Jacobs, 22 Pat Lambie.
540 Comments
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19 Jul 2011, 15:59 pm
@coma(coma)-342:
oh no! please not daniel? from harping on about stegman to daniel? really guy, really?
19 Jul 2011, 16:00 pm
@XhosaKid(XhosaKid)-345: it was a good job, i don’t think i’ve ever seen anyone able to keep him quiet
19 Jul 2011, 16:01 pm
@youknowwho(youknowwho)-250: 5.6 and you weigh 90kgs :shock, thats very bad Shaun. I am the same height and I am 54kg and sometimes 53kg. You are a mega teletubby and need to loose weight before you have a heart attack.
19 Jul 2011, 16:05 pm
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-353: lol
19 Jul 2011, 16:05 pm
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-353: Um….can we have a photo??
(not you shaun)
19 Jul 2011, 16:05 pm
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-353:
Furthermore, your 54 kg’s are in all the right places.
Whereas shaun looks like a shaved ewok.
19 Jul 2011, 16:06 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-355:
19 Jul 2011, 16:07 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-355:
19 Jul 2011, 16:07 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-347:
Stegmann fromm your stats seems to have a very high workrate,fair enough.Very much like a Phil Waugh and of late Beau Robinson- who could never smell Smith nor recently Pocock Now the question is ruck presence and workrate is all well and dandy but how many POSITIVE contribution has he made at those points,how is his accuracy at those points and overall efficiency ??
One thing i noticed from Phil Waugh especially in comparison to Smith was that he seemed to have a higher workrate-busy player at ruck points but positive contributions were lesser than Smith’s and accurary wasnt as impressive however “tenacious” he was.
Stegmann reminds me of once highly rated Ben Herring(of Hurricanes fame & played for Junior All Blacks)
19 Jul 2011, 16:10 pm
@foreverrugga(foreverrugga)-346: Aplon is way better than lambie.thankfully pdv agrees with my assessment.
19 Jul 2011, 16:11 pm
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-353: you, his BMI is moer toe
19 Jul 2011, 16:11 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-357: @Gunther is looking to the future with hope in his heart.(gunther)-358:
Doesn’t hurt to ask….
19 Jul 2011, 16:13 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-361: Am I correct in saying he’s about 1.7 m?
19 Jul 2011, 16:13 pm
@XhosaKid(XhosaKid)-148:
When I read comments like this in retaliation to comments like this:
@Hondo(Hondo)-141:
I have to ask myself what am I doing here. I have to ask whether Cardinelli and Vrede have forgotten on which shelf they left the rusty banhammer.
Instead of censoring words like monkey, you keo staff should rather focus on removing comments like those that serve no point.
19 Jul 2011, 16:14 pm
for those who need a good laugh this is classic:
“Christo Buchner
Johannesburg – Luckily for the Sharks, their performance against the Bulls in Durban was much more impressive than their new-look mascot.
Sharky – a popular mascot for the Sharks over the last number of years – has undergone a metamorphosis.
After the “new” Sharky was announced with much excitement a few weeks ago, it was disappointing to see a character that much rather resembles a Ninja Turtle or a bullfrog.
The old Sharky was much more athletic than the new version and also looked more like a Shark.
In fact, the new Sharky one is quite a comical character – sure to much rather be made a mockery of than being feared by opponents.
This character with his white pants and slippers will probably look much more at home at a Bowls club.
Like some fan said on Saturday: “If that is how sharks look, no one will be afraid of them.”
“
19 Jul 2011, 16:14 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-349:
Yes, I think so.
19 Jul 2011, 16:16 pm
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-353: very unfair to compare the weight to height ratio between a man and a woman…..unless you are a german rent-boy like gunther.
19 Jul 2011, 16:16 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-363:
langers would fit inside my golf bag.
apart from his head of course.
which is massive.
if buddha and that karin nortje from idols had children…..
19 Jul 2011, 16:16 pm
@topaz(topaz)-344: sorry, i was referring to comment 148… one for the scrap book
19 Jul 2011, 16:19 pm
@topaz(topaz)-360: @Transformation(Transformation)-348: I’d have Aplon at 14 and Lambie at 15.
19 Jul 2011, 16:19 pm
@topaz(topaz)-367: Dude a 90 kg 1.7 human being is fat.
Male. Female. You.
Anysexyoucanthinkof.
19 Jul 2011, 16:20 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-362: pervert
19 Jul 2011, 16:21 pm
@foreverrugga(foreverrugga)-365:
hahahahahaha
oh dear, did they make sharkies face a likeness of kanko’s or daniel’s?
19 Jul 2011, 16:22 pm
@Gunther is looking to the future with hope in his heart.(gunther)-368:
I see Karin confessed to her Mandrax habit. But Im pretty you had that in mind when typing.
19 Jul 2011, 16:23 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-371: what if you’re like superbuff from gyming
19 Jul 2011, 16:23 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-374:
moi?
19 Jul 2011, 16:24 pm
@mshiniwami(mshiniwami)-359:
Well yes, of course. But even if he was sloppy, which he isn’t, you still can’t account for less than half that figure by Daniel. You can’t do anything if you aren’t AT LEAST present at the ruck.
In your Waugh vs Smith comparison, I think Smith had a huge work rate himself, he was leading last year in the S14 before his injury and retirement from SH rugby.
And re accuracy: well, I’m sure that you’ve seen the Bulls games. Stegmann gets penalized LESS than another top flanker PER breakdown (rate). Does this say nothing about accuracy?
Some poor sods that I read say that Stegmann doesn’t have ears and the ref shouts hands off and he doesn’t listen etc. Here is an example of a casual uninformed fan. It’s part of slowing down the ball and you and I know.
If the Boks want to play the breakdowns like the Bulls (only with better players) then you need to rely on your 3, 4 and 6 in that department.
Anyway, comment further on what you expect should be efficiency at these points.
19 Jul 2011, 16:24 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-372: What’s your point?
19 Jul 2011, 16:25 pm
@he’s not the messiah. he’s a very naughty boy!(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-373: I was there at the stadium on Saturday, you have to see it to believe it. Think the marketing team might take a bit of flak for this one.
19 Jul 2011, 16:26 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-378:
he’s telling you to get in line.
19 Jul 2011, 16:27 pm
@fantasticbarnsmell(fantasticbarnsmell)-375: You’d still have a gut at 90 kgs. Buff would put you in around 80 – 83 kgs.
19 Jul 2011, 16:27 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-371: keep your knickers on.ffs you don’t need to respond to all of my posts.we’ve got a rent-boy on here in the form of gunther that will gladly fulfill your daily needs.
19 Jul 2011, 16:29 pm
@Gunther is looking to the future with hope in his heart.(gunther)-380:
19 Jul 2011, 16:31 pm
@foreverrugga(foreverrugga)-379:
hehehehe
i smell a rat. i smell plum trying to shift focus from the teams performance or his ‘lazy’ midfield selections
19 Jul 2011, 16:31 pm
@mshiniwami(mshiniwami)-359:
Sorry, I forgot to add to my post 377, that the discrepency in that stat of Stegmann (561) vs Daniel (257) is not just down to accuracy.
There will ALWAYS be more rucks than you can handle. The challenge is to get to them. You cannot say as a type of defence that “Oh Daniel was perhaps more accurate, and therefore he didn’t need to be present at as many”. That’s rubbish.
Daniel stayed off the rucks to maneuver himself into position so that he could get more carries in space. Only Alberts did his by instruction. Then you have Kanko as 8th man. Daniel’s work at the rucks (and thus what the Boks are expecting of him) was sub-standard, he is behind Francois Louw in this regard too.
Either Daniel is lazy, incapable or under instruction (the latter I almost gaurantee he wasn’t at 6). Regardless he hasn’t demonstrated an appatite for work like Stegmann and that’s that, whether he is capable or not.
19 Jul 2011, 16:31 pm
@fantasticbarnsmell(fantasticbarnsmell)-375:
langers is SUPERBUFFETED….
fark sorry caps
19 Jul 2011, 16:31 pm
@foreverrugga(foreverrugga)-379:
what happened to the old sharks mascot?
did barney eat him?
19 Jul 2011, 16:34 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-385:
Also, anyone who’s ever tried spreading himself to reach the rucks knows that over the duration of a match you’d much rather stand in the line and wait to carry a ball or support the men on your inside if the ball doesn’t reach you.
Running metres with the ball, you can get over 100 a match. The metres run between breakdowns is BY FAR greater. ANd then the real bloody tiring work starts when you get there.
So this nonsense of accuracy vs those numbers and b/d attendance vs carries is just silly when it comes to our openside flanks.
19 Jul 2011, 16:34 pm
@Gunther is looking to the future with hope in his heart.(gunther)-386: lol
19 Jul 2011, 16:35 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-385:
i dont understand the point of this. daniel is never going to be a bok unless/until he bulks up, period.
the guys too small. 92kg’s and 1.86m
he may or may not lose mobility though?
19 Jul 2011, 16:36 pm
@coma(coma)-342:
Anyway Coma, I’m still waiting for your reply to post #347 and after, if you care to back what you say…..take your time.
19 Jul 2011, 16:37 pm
@Gunther is looking to the future with hope in his heart.(gunther)-387:
hahahahahahaha
lmao
hahahaha
19 Jul 2011, 16:37 pm
if anybody wonders what valyrie looks like, go look at IOL website now.
there is a picture alongside the story of his trial.
apparently lost his cool with the prosecutor
hahahahahaha
19 Jul 2011, 16:38 pm
@foreverrugga(foreverrugga)-365: the pic on sport24 bwahahahahahaha that Sharks mascot look dodgy
19 Jul 2011, 16:39 pm
@he’s not the messiah. he’s a very naughty boy!(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-384: ha ha could be …
19 Jul 2011, 16:39 pm
@he’s not the messiah. he’s a very naughty boy!(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-390:
That Bradley Scottish flanker is just 94Kgs, he was man of the match when they beat the Springboks last year.
19 Jul 2011, 16:39 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-394: super dodgy
19 Jul 2011, 16:41 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-396:
Oh yeah, and to all those who talk **** about horse for courses: that was on Scotlands wet “heavy” field, so…..
19 Jul 2011, 16:43 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-377:
“If the Boks want to play the breakdowns like the Bulls (only with better players) then you need to rely on your 3, 4 and 6 in that department.”
Interesting… no Bulls player even ranked in the top 20 ‘turnovers’ in this years S15… the top 6 were hookers lead by BDP… even Habana made the T10…
Stegman was 20th on the list for pilfers… where he was totally out-ranked by Derick Minnie and ironical;y Daniels with less game-time… the same with pick-and-drive stats where not one Bull ranked in the T20…
Yes Stegman had excellent tackle stats ( he was 20th with a good hit/miss ratio but still behind Morne and WO in this respect)… but no he does not have the rest of the skills-set the McCaws and Pococks have around the paddock… he’s been limited into thinking that’s all an open-sider does much like many on this site…
The Bulls biggest disappointment this year for mine was that they simply could not get the correct balance amongst their loosies with both Spies and DWP with Stegman…not too mention they had two impact-less hookers (no disrespect to GB but he’s past it)…
Wepener not a bad signing… but where are the Adriaan Strauss’ in the 2012 set-up?
19 Jul 2011, 16:44 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-396:
I think his name is Barkley, Jonathan.
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