Comments on: Setting a precedent

By: Yetirat(Yetirat)

Yetirat(Yetirat) — Fri, 22 Jul 2011 03:17:14 +0000

Very interesting read Simon. Psychologically the after-effects of that type of thing can really take it’s toll on a person. Great to see he’s come through it so well and accepted what has happened with such pardon.

By: Gunther is looking to the future with hope in his heart.(gunther)

Gunther is looking to the future with hope in his heart.(gunther) — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 14:04:34 +0000

@RugbyGuru_0_(RugbyGuru_0_)-12: you are still an idiot. and I wasn't wrong then... and I'm still not wrong. giobe yourself a poesklap rugbyretard.

By: Neil(Neil)

Neil(Neil) — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 13:33:27 +0000

Sad and disturbing article, but a good read. Thanks for posting it.

RugbyGuru_0, you are a terrible person for diminishing what happened to this guy. If you don’t have anything good to say, don’t say anything at all.

I can’t help but wonder if you’re not in some way connected to Roux or if you yourself are grappling deep down with having done something similar to someone in your past.

By: semi(semi)

semi(semi) — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 13:32:03 +0000

extremely interesting article. The question now comes in as to how far this precedent will go? The torn ligaments in my knee as a result of being taken out in the air? I think the difference between that, most rugby injuries and the incident involving ryand and roux is that there was clear evidence of intent rather than inaccuracy and i hope that this is what decides all future cases.

On a hypothetical side note, how stupid would the irb citing committee have looked if the court ruled differently from them re the bakkies – jones case!

By: Big Hit(Big Hit)

Big Hit(Big Hit) — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 13:09:08 +0000

Glad this kid can still walk and his positive attitude is inspirational, hopefully it’s something that will endure.

By: Siyavuna(Siyavuna)

Siyavuna(Siyavuna) — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:53:13 +0000

Good article…….great precedent……the game will be the ultimate winner here…….

By: he's not the messiah. he's a very naughty boy!(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)

he's not the messiah. he's a very naughty boy!(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha) — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 09:30:23 +0000

good article.

By: he's not the messiah. he's a very naughty boy!(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)

he's not the messiah. he's a very naughty boy!(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha) — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 09:29:51 +0000

@RugbyGuru_0_(RugbyGuru_0_)-12: good man.

By: H(H)

H(H) — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 09:27:07 +0000

@RugbyGuru_0_(RugbyGuru_0_)-1: ******. And in your case you’re not “a man” when you admit you’re wrong. There is no glory for you to salvage after making such an idiot of yourself.

By: RugbyGuru_0_(RugbyGuru_0_)

RugbyGuru_0_(RugbyGuru_0_) — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 08:37:56 +0000

Ok I am wrong, I didn’t read that bottom part of article, no need for me to try and fight this loosing battle. Takes a man to admit he’s wrong, take note cunther

By: RugbyGuru_0_(RugbyGuru_0_)

RugbyGuru_0_(RugbyGuru_0_) — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 08:15:16 +0000

@ Cunther, I do understand the article, i still find it ridiciloius that they taking someone to court for breaking the laws of the game! I guess jones will be following suit and take bakkies to court as well. Oh and richie will take lotti to court for that spear tackle and I will take that big prop who broke my anckle to court when I was playing for U\13 B team! Some of u guys are so far up the assses of the journos, its not even funny! Hehe

By: Paws(Paws)

Paws(Paws) — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 08:14:59 +0000

This was a very interesting read and topic.

By: Simon(Simon)

Simon(Simon) — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 08:12:38 +0000

@RugbyGuru_0_(RugbyGuru_0_)-6: The court case has already been won you illiterate idiot.

By: The Insider(The Insider)

The Insider(The Insider) — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 07:59:49 +0000

@RugbyGuru_0_(RugbyGuru_0_)-1: Too many words for you? I have some old Captain Pugwash books at home if that's more your thing. I can send them to you.

By: Gunther is looking to the future with hope in his heart.(gunther)

Gunther is looking to the future with hope in his heart.(gunther) — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 07:46:07 +0000

@RugbyGuru_0_(RugbyGuru_0_)-1:

twottie.

the article is not about “injuries happen”..

it’s about a deliberate act of unlawful behaviour.

are you really that dumb?

rugby ****** more like.

By: RugbyGuru_0_(RugbyGuru_0_)

RugbyGuru_0_(RugbyGuru_0_) — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 07:28:11 +0000

@ Simon, listen mate, injuries happen, its part of the game of rugby and any sport for that matter! Yes its not nice to see or hear these injuries but this story is farfetched, the court case will not be won. if this is the kind of articles\stories you want to write, rather go to some screen writing for 7 de laan. Hardenthefuckup mate

By: Hooker22(Hooker22)

Hooker22(Hooker22) — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 06:15:35 +0000

@RugbyGuru_0_(RugbyGuru_0_)-1: Actually, I found this article fascinating. With a bit of dramatic license it could make an interesting Erin Brokovich type film. @Simon(Simon)-4: In terms of the common law, any action that is outside the laws of the game, is intentional and which causes harm was theoretically actionable in civil court. This precedent merely reinforces that, so yes, if Bakkies, for example, shoulder charges Gio Aplon and causes damage, he could/would be liable civilly. Also criminally, in theory, as would, for example, Burger's eye gouging.

By: Simon(Simon)

Simon(Simon) — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 05:57:50 +0000

@WOLFMAN21(WOLFMAN21)-2: Good to see we have some intelligent readers on this site. The Hattingh episode has set a precedent and we could one day see a professional rugby player being taken to court in SA for something similar.

By: Simon(Simon)

Simon(Simon) — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 05:56:23 +0000

@RugbyGuru_0_(RugbyGuru_0_)-1: How do you get through life with such a low IQ?

By: WOLFMAN21(WOLFMAN21)

WOLFMAN21(WOLFMAN21) — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 05:37:45 +0000

I found it pretty interesting, apart from the personal connection to the area in which both the schools are based, and the human element of a young guy disabled playing rugby.

If this is a legal precedent, might we one day see an international player challenge another international player as a result of foul play?

Would O’Driscoll have received payments from Umaga and Mealamu if he had taken them to court?

What about Bakkies Botha and Jones? Could Jones have taken Bakkies to court for that challenge? He would have had support based on Bakkies’ suspension.

What about eye-gouging – could Burger have been forced to pay? Does it open up the opportunity for criminal proceedings in the case of such blatant acts of foul play such as eye-gouging?