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		<title>By: Hendrik Pienaar(hendrikp)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/07/26/shouldering-responsibility/#comment-1926877</link>
		<dc:creator>Hendrik Pienaar(hendrikp)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 02:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1926846&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cramp.easy(cramp.easy)-68&lt;/a&gt;: 

Ja plain rubbish. From what I&#039;ve heard JdV is the joker in the side, but we don&#039;t know their personailties. Most people on here only know what their names are and what they look like, because they also don&#039;t know much about how well they play rugby.

It&#039;s funny how we get idiots like this who can&#039;t wait to drag the next SA rugby player through the mud. Jerry Collins can piss on the field and the kiwis laugh it off. In SA Wynand Olivier only need to have good looks and everyone south of Pretoria hates him with a passion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1926846" rel="nofollow">cramp.easy(cramp.easy)-68</a>: </p>
<p>Ja plain rubbish. From what I&#8217;ve heard JdV is the joker in the side, but we don&#8217;t know their personailties. Most people on here only know what their names are and what they look like, because they also don&#8217;t know much about how well they play rugby.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny how we get idiots like this who can&#8217;t wait to drag the next SA rugby player through the mud. Jerry Collins can piss on the field and the kiwis laugh it off. In SA Wynand Olivier only need to have good looks and everyone south of Pretoria hates him with a passion.</p>
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		<title>By: Hendrik Pienaar(hendrikp)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/07/26/shouldering-responsibility/#comment-1926874</link>
		<dc:creator>Hendrik Pienaar(hendrikp)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 02:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok I&#039;m going to put it out there.

Francois Steyn at 10. Pat Lambie at 15. Steyn does everything in general play as well as Lambie if not better, plus he can kick the ball a hell of a lot further then Lambie, and is a lot more physical on defense in that 10-12 channel. His drawbacks, he sometimes has brain explosions... but he&#039;s been getting experience playing inside backs at Racing Metro.

I have favored Butch, and still do slightly depending on how he goes in the Tri Nations tests at home. But next year I really think our best option would be a combination of Pienaar &amp; F Steyn as halfbacks, with Lambie at fullback where he can be brought into the line rather then being required to run the ship. Lambie will also probably spend the entire Super rugby campain next year at 15 while Steyn plays 10 &amp; 12 at Racing.

2012 Bok backline that I&#039;d love to see. 9 Ruan Pienaar 10 Francois Steyn 11 Bryan Habana (until someone good who can also tackle comes along) 12 Juan de Jongh 13 Johann Sadie 14 JP Pietersen 15 Pat Lambie.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok I&#8217;m going to put it out there.</p>
<p>Francois Steyn at 10. Pat Lambie at 15. Steyn does everything in general play as well as Lambie if not better, plus he can kick the ball a hell of a lot further then Lambie, and is a lot more physical on defense in that 10-12 channel. His drawbacks, he sometimes has brain explosions&#8230; but he&#8217;s been getting experience playing inside backs at Racing Metro.</p>
<p>I have favored Butch, and still do slightly depending on how he goes in the Tri Nations tests at home. But next year I really think our best option would be a combination of Pienaar &amp; F Steyn as halfbacks, with Lambie at fullback where he can be brought into the line rather then being required to run the ship. Lambie will also probably spend the entire Super rugby campain next year at 15 while Steyn plays 10 &amp; 12 at Racing.</p>
<p>2012 Bok backline that I&#8217;d love to see. 9 Ruan Pienaar 10 Francois Steyn 11 Bryan Habana (until someone good who can also tackle comes along) 12 Juan de Jongh 13 Johann Sadie 14 JP Pietersen 15 Pat Lambie.</p>
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		<title>By: cramp.easy(cramp.easy)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/07/26/shouldering-responsibility/#comment-1926846</link>
		<dc:creator>cramp.easy(cramp.easy)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 19:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ruan has told his dad that he is busy building a legend…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-55: 
That&#039;s nonsense. I saw a Stormers group at dinner at Hudson&#039;s in CT a week before the S15 semi. Mostly younger players like Koster, Flo and Deon Fourie. Jean DV joined them and was warmly welcomed by all. You could see he was one of them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ruan has told his dad that he is busy building a legend…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-55:<br />
That&#8217;s nonsense. I saw a Stormers group at dinner at Hudson&#8217;s in CT a week before the S15 semi. Mostly younger players like Koster, Flo and Deon Fourie. Jean DV joined them and was warmly welcomed by all. You could see he was one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Hit(Big Hit)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/07/26/shouldering-responsibility/#comment-1926808</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Hit(Big Hit)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 16:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1926297&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;grant10(grant10)-2&lt;/a&gt;: Steyn isn&#039;t the problem, he has shown his team can play running rugby with him at 10 for years.

The problem is the guy he gives the ball to - Wynand Olivier, this player runs into brick walls rarely passing before contact and when he does it&#039;s often a poorly timed pass which creates nothing. Bok backline moves die with him. 

At Super level it works because he gets over the gainline, at test level he gets nowhere.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1926297" rel="nofollow">grant10(grant10)-2</a>: Steyn isn&#8217;t the problem, he has shown his team can play running rugby with him at 10 for years.</p>
<p>The problem is the guy he gives the ball to &#8211; Wynand Olivier, this player runs into brick walls rarely passing before contact and when he does it&#8217;s often a poorly timed pass which creates nothing. Bok backline moves die with him. </p>
<p>At Super level it works because he gets over the gainline, at test level he gets nowhere.</p>
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		<title>By: McGyver(IssiJan)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/07/26/shouldering-responsibility/#comment-1926716</link>
		<dc:creator>McGyver(IssiJan)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 14:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1926711&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bryce_in_oz(bryce_in_oz)-65&lt;/a&gt;: hahahahaha]]></description>
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		<title>By: bryce_in_oz(bryce_in_oz)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/07/26/shouldering-responsibility/#comment-1926711</link>
		<dc:creator>bryce_in_oz(bryce_in_oz)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 14:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RSA... WP... do not deserve Schalk... yet he doesn&#039;t give a fark about their fair-weathered fans... he&#039;s a straight A student, comes from an awesomely successful family... has a degree in Viticulture... is earning a mint playing the &#039;sport&#039; he loves... and is dominating on the world stage according to his international peers..

And when it&#039;s all over will go back to making some of the most progressive Wines to come out of &#039;boring&#039; Old World RSA wines...

LEGEND!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RSA&#8230; WP&#8230; do not deserve Schalk&#8230; yet he doesn&#8217;t give a fark about their fair-weathered fans&#8230; he&#8217;s a straight A student, comes from an awesomely successful family&#8230; has a degree in Viticulture&#8230; is earning a mint playing the &#8216;sport&#8217; he loves&#8230; and is dominating on the world stage according to his international peers..</p>
<p>And when it&#8217;s all over will go back to making some of the most progressive Wines to come out of &#8216;boring&#8217; Old World RSA wines&#8230;</p>
<p>LEGEND!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: ET.(ET.)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/07/26/shouldering-responsibility/#comment-1926659</link>
		<dc:creator>ET.(ET.)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 13:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1926322&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ufo(ufo)-10&lt;/a&gt;: 

Disregarding ALL the C R A P you wrote there, bar one, allow me just a question or two wrt one aspect.

What?

Is it the smallest of the 8 wrist bones, the itsy bitsy Pisiform, that he needed his effin arm in a cast for? I guess we should consider ourselves so lucky he did not put his upper body in a cast.
What needs to be in a cast is his teeny peanut sized &#039;brain&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1926322" rel="nofollow">ufo(ufo)-10</a>: </p>
<p>Disregarding ALL the C R A P you wrote there, bar one, allow me just a question or two wrt one aspect.</p>
<p>What?</p>
<p>Is it the smallest of the 8 wrist bones, the itsy bitsy Pisiform, that he needed his effin arm in a cast for? I guess we should consider ourselves so lucky he did not put his upper body in a cast.<br />
What needs to be in a cast is his teeny peanut sized &#8216;brain&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: sharkraggarules(sharkraggarules)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/07/26/shouldering-responsibility/#comment-1926641</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 12:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Must say was pleasantly suprised with Burger&#039;s leadership this year, Next season with victor and John gone, really only leaves stormers and cheetahs to come up with someone. Lions??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Must say was pleasantly suprised with Burger&#8217;s leadership this year, Next season with victor and John gone, really only leaves stormers and cheetahs to come up with someone. Lions??</p>
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		<title>By: Samba Bok(JayDaFiveOh)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/07/26/shouldering-responsibility/#comment-1926630</link>
		<dc:creator>Samba Bok(JayDaFiveOh)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 12:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Burger is a sadomasichistic lunatic who is dirty as hell. I&#039;d rather have Juan Smith as captain if he is fit to play that is. We must be the only team that has such a crisis at captain. Jeez doesn&#039;t SA produces any leaders anymore? PdV has turned the Boks into a bunch of braindead fckwits! We need a captain who can actually play and a fcking game plan! How hard can it be?! Even Scotland and Italy possess these key aspects!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Burger is a sadomasichistic lunatic who is dirty as hell. I&#8217;d rather have Juan Smith as captain if he is fit to play that is. We must be the only team that has such a crisis at captain. Jeez doesn&#8217;t SA produces any leaders anymore? PdV has turned the Boks into a bunch of braindead fckwits! We need a captain who can actually play and a fcking game plan! How hard can it be?! Even Scotland and Italy possess these key aspects!!</p>
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		<title>By: WP_(WP_)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/07/26/shouldering-responsibility/#comment-1926588</link>
		<dc:creator>WP_(WP_)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1926575&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;PissAnt(PissAnt)-59&lt;/a&gt;: Agree, he has one of the highest workrates in world rugby]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1926575" rel="nofollow">PissAnt(PissAnt)-59</a>: Agree, he has one of the highest workrates in world rugby</p>
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		<title>By: ruan has told his dad that he is busy building a legend...(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)</title>
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		<dc:creator>ruan has told his dad that he is busy building a legend...(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1926559&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Divz(Divz)-57&lt;/a&gt;: 
wow! 
did not know that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1926559" rel="nofollow">Divz(Divz)-57</a>:<br />
wow!<br />
did not know that.</p>
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		<title>By: PissAnt(PissAnt)</title>
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		<dc:creator>PissAnt(PissAnt)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1926569&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;WP_(WP_)-58&lt;/a&gt;: 

He does not read game situations well.

Nothing wrong with his work ethic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1926569" rel="nofollow">WP_(WP_)-58</a>: </p>
<p>He does not read game situations well.</p>
<p>Nothing wrong with his work ethic.</p>
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		<title>By: WP_(WP_)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/07/26/shouldering-responsibility/#comment-1926569</link>
		<dc:creator>WP_(WP_)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He leads very well by example, but his decision making in the pressure situations leaves much to be desired]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He leads very well by example, but his decision making in the pressure situations leaves much to be desired</p>
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		<title>By: Divz(Divz)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/07/26/shouldering-responsibility/#comment-1926559</link>
		<dc:creator>Divz(Divz)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 10:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1926527&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ruan has told his dad that he is busy building a legend…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-55&lt;/a&gt;: I know some of the stormers its the inside word. He apparently shines for cameras and chicks and becomes a real pri..ck when he is with the team. Dissing the jnr guys in the team in front of everyone is a favourite.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1926527" rel="nofollow">ruan has told his dad that he is busy building a legend…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-55</a>: I know some of the stormers its the inside word. He apparently shines for cameras and chicks and becomes a real pri..ck when he is with the team. Dissing the jnr guys in the team in front of everyone is a favourite.</p>
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		<title>By: bangkok-bok(bangkok-bok)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/07/26/shouldering-responsibility/#comment-1926532</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 10:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1926519&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tjokker(Tjokker)-54&lt;/a&gt;: How about someone like Andries Bekker as captain?My guess is they will go with one of the frat boys in Hargreaves.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1926519" rel="nofollow">Tjokker(Tjokker)-54</a>: How about someone like Andries Bekker as captain?My guess is they will go with one of the frat boys in Hargreaves.</p>
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		<title>By: ruan has told his dad that he is busy building a legend...(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)</title>
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		<dc:creator>ruan has told his dad that he is busy building a legend...(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 10:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1926509&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Divz(Divz)-53&lt;/a&gt;: 
really? or are making things up, stretching the truth?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1926509" rel="nofollow">Divz(Divz)-53</a>:<br />
really? or are making things up, stretching the truth?</p>
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		<title>By: Tjokker(Tjokker)</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 10:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The next Bok captain will depends on who replaces Snorre. If it is Allistair Coetzee, Schalk or Jean will be the captain. Juan Smith will be a better choice (imo) but then, his injuries is a mayor concern. Not one of them will make RWC 2015. 

Don&#039;t forget that Chilliboy is seen by rugby adminastrators (hidden politicians) as a future captain. At least we will have a better hooker than Barney.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The next Bok captain will depends on who replaces Snorre. If it is Allistair Coetzee, Schalk or Jean will be the captain. Juan Smith will be a better choice (imo) but then, his injuries is a mayor concern. Not one of them will make RWC 2015. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget that Chilliboy is seen by rugby adminastrators (hidden politicians) as a future captain. At least we will have a better hooker than Barney.</p>
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		<title>By: Divz(Divz)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Divz(Divz)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 09:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1926381&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lazer(Lazer)-31&lt;/a&gt;: please NOT Jean Div he is a D. oos just ask the players no respect .... some of them do not even talk to him]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1926381" rel="nofollow">Lazer(Lazer)-31</a>: please NOT Jean Div he is a D. oos just ask the players no respect &#8230;. some of them do not even talk to him</p>
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		<title>By: Frik(frikodel)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/07/26/shouldering-responsibility/#comment-1926497</link>
		<dc:creator>Frik(frikodel)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 09:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1926472&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;XhosaKid(XhosaKid)-51&lt;/a&gt;: I say Jacques Fourie. He already runs defence in the backline which is one of the strongest part of the Stormers game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1926472" rel="nofollow">XhosaKid(XhosaKid)-51</a>: I say Jacques Fourie. He already runs defence in the backline which is one of the strongest part of the Stormers game.</p>
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		<title>By: XhosaKid(XhosaKid)</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 09:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Honestly, I would have prefered JDV or Bekker is Captain than Schalk]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, I would have prefered JDV or Bekker is Captain than Schalk</p>
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