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• 151.PissAnt:
  27 Jul 2011, 18:44 pm

  @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-148:

  What lies? SA Rugby wrote to SANZAR when these claims were first made, included doctor’s notes and all!

• 152.grant10:
  27 Jul 2011, 18:45 pm

  the truth shall set you free

• 153.Wezwp:
  27 Jul 2011, 18:46 pm

  @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-150: more like the selectors buddy. you have to believe the blue bulls have a huge influence.

• 154.deon stegmann just released his autobiography - deon stegmann the legend...:
  27 Jul 2011, 18:50 pm

  free? are you free or are you dom?

  love that ad.

• 155.Wezwp:
  27 Jul 2011, 18:55 pm

  please vote yes on the poll ppl.

• 156.Black Panther:
  27 Jul 2011, 18:59 pm

  PA

  the ONLY difference ?!

  come now, you’re clearly 1 of the rugby-smarter blokes on this here forum.

  So you’re telling me that an AB 30-man squad including 1 Test debutant (Hoeata) is no different than a Bok 30-man squad selected disproportionately from a group shaven of 23 ‘injured’ players ? that resting 4 players is ‘no different’ than 23 when a match day squad is 22 players ?

• 157.Dawn:
  27 Jul 2011, 19:01 pm

  Sigh

  I can’t turn my back for a second and you twerps are kukking HM Keo out for allsorts.

• 158.Dawn:
  27 Jul 2011, 19:10 pm

  So OK he a bit portly but he is trying.

• 159.Blitzbok:
  27 Jul 2011, 19:16 pm

  @Transformation(Transformation)-72: who gives a stuff about jake shanty town **** boy? this is about your krusty faced de Villiers. who hasnt done a days coaching in his life! jake had success without rassie or anyone else divvy has had no success without someone else fekking doing his job for him!!! i couldnt care less about jake though. your only pointing jake out because you are a racist *******. yes thats the truth! exposed yourself last year ya *** wcoulnt stop whinging even called mallet a white *******. divvy was supposed to show him up, too bad! bwahahahehehehohoho! you lose again d!ckhead. good luck with that

• 160.PissAnt:
  27 Jul 2011, 19:17 pm

  @Black Panther(Black Panther)-156:

  Are you trying to quantify the crime here?

  If so you win, you are only resting 4 whilst the Boks are resting 21. Does it make it less of a crime?

• 161.kevin w:
  27 Jul 2011, 19:27 pm

  @PissAnt(PissAnt)-160: Come on PA … you have to look at it in the context of graham henry and the AB’s … I mean in 2007 he claimed he could send 2 squads capable of winning the WC.

• 162.Blitzbok:
  27 Jul 2011, 19:30 pm

  @kevin w(kevin w)-161: 0 WCs * 2 squads = 0 squads with World Cups hehehe

• 163.carol:
  27 Jul 2011, 19:32 pm

  @Gunther is at camp Snordraad(gunther)-141:
  Look if Keo is desperate I will be ‘Rugby Bird of the Week’ my vital statistics are….

  Total Cholesterol 4.3
  Triglyceride 0.6
  Plasma Glucose 4.8
  Blood Pressure 112/69
  Body Mass Index 20.5 kg.m2

• 164.PissAnt:
  27 Jul 2011, 19:32 pm

  @kevin w(kevin w)-161:

  I am not talking about 2007 (when he pulled his top players out of the Super 14 for half the tournament which btw is also a SANZAR competition and falls under the same rules about selecting and playing your best) I am talking of right now, 2011, and the players he will rest this weekend and the ones he will keep at home when they tour SA later in the 3N.

  Both coaches are breaking the SANZAR rule, but it seems to be a case of one breaking it more than the other which is silly.

  Either everyone plays by the rule or you bend it to your heart’s content or what your specific demands are which is what both PDV and Henry are doing.

• 165.Black Panther:
  27 Jul 2011, 19:34 pm

  PA

  that’s 4 players rested from WITHIN the 30-man AB squad.

  Not

  23 players OUTSIDE the 30-man Bok squad.

  You can see night as day all you like but you’re gonna have to turn the lights on 1st.

• 166.Black Panther:
  27 Jul 2011, 19:38 pm

  PA

  please explain how GH is breaking the SANZAR rules in 2011 by selecting his 22-man matchday teams exclusively from the same 30 man squad ?

• 167.carol:
  27 Jul 2011, 19:40 pm

  Actually, wonder if ET can tell me if that is good or bad?

• 168.wallabie.:
  27 Jul 2011, 19:42 pm

  NZ have set up help hotline for when they lose the RWC. those New Zealanders who need help please call 1800 10 10 10 10 10.

  tackler can also use this hotline now that he is a primate of the island with the long white cloud.

• 169.wallabie.:
  27 Jul 2011, 19:44 pm

  That number translates to

  1800 won nothing, won nothing, won nothing, won nothing.

• 170.wallabie.:
  27 Jul 2011, 19:45 pm

  @carol(carol)-167:

  depends on the BMI.

• 171.Big Hit:
  27 Jul 2011, 19:51 pm

  @wallabie.(wallabie.)-168: i’m sure I read somewhere the number is 1800 91 95 99 03 07

• 172.wallabie.:
  27 Jul 2011, 19:53 pm

  each 10 represents a rwc year.

• 173.PissAnt:
  27 Jul 2011, 19:56 pm

  @Black Panther(Black Panther)-165: @Black Panther(Black Panther)-166:

  Didn’t PDV name his ‘squad’ for the tour and selects and rotates exclusively within that group too?

  But then your question really is about the initial squads selected isn’t it?

  Tell me, when Henry and PDV got their players back after Super Rugby, how would they have measured the player’s ‘well being’ specifically to actual injuries, current conditioning and actual minutes played so far?

  Because surely this is what it comes down to is it not? Managing players to ensure they are 100% come RWC time?

  So if we really have to go into a pissing contest I have to ask why Henry was allowed to ‘systematically introduce’ players to Super Rugby during this year’s competition flying in the face of the same SANZAR ruling? (all of this is well documented)

  Or are we again only ‘quantifying’ this ruling when it comes to tests versus Super Rugby?

  Of course you visit this blog enough for me not to tell you PDV has no such luxury.

  This is a silly topic for a very simple reason, all international coaches will manage their players to be in top condition for the RWC, given the individual circumstances in each country, all of them will do it differently too.

  If you want to throw the ‘rule book’ at PDV, the same ‘rule book’ can be thrown right back at Henry and NZ.

• 174.carol:
  27 Jul 2011, 19:59 pm

  @wallabie.(wallabie.)-170:
  Well that would be 20.5!

• 175.carol:
  27 Jul 2011, 20:00 pm

  What exactly is Nando’s anyway?
  Roasted Kiwi or something?

• 176.wallabie.:
  27 Jul 2011, 20:02 pm

  i say coaches do what you need to. do to win the world cup. this not soccer….it is a contact sport and player mangement is essential.

  although combinations is vital at the highest level and they need to be tested in tough games….the tri nations is the best place for it.

• 177.wallabie.:
  27 Jul 2011, 20:03 pm

  @carol(carol)-174:

  got to be a hottie!

• 178.PissAnt:
  27 Jul 2011, 20:05 pm

  @wallabie.(wallabie.)-176:

  I was asked why the Boks did not have any warm-up games like NZ or Aus prior to the 3N…

  My answer was simple.

  Playing against Samoa or Fiji will teach you very little, playing your RWC warm-up’s against the best in the world however, will teach you quite a lot…

• 179.carol:
  27 Jul 2011, 20:07 pm

  @wallabie.(wallabie.)-177:

  Mmmm…… only to a certain age group!!!

  Are you the man to give Keo some fashion tips, not sure he has quite got the ‘look’ right yet!

• 180.Bill Reyts:
  27 Jul 2011, 20:10 pm

  @PissAnt(PissAnt)-178:

  ….and that is?

  We are not quite up to it I guess…

• 181.Black Panther:
  27 Jul 2011, 20:11 pm

  Wallabie

  We look fwd to welcoming Australia here to Eden Park next weekend and have set up a hotline for the players after the match

  it’s 0800 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10

  which roughly translates as 15 years coming to Eden Park, won

  NOTHING.

• 182.PissAnt:
  27 Jul 2011, 20:14 pm

  @Bill Reyts(Gumboots)-180:

  Well ‘warm-up’ matches is supposed to answer any underlying questions shouldn’t they?

  At this stage every single coach has his match day 22 wish-list penciled in for quarters, semi’s or finals – so the only questions that would be left is ‘if the **** hits the fan, have I got a decent enough back-up player in the wings?’

  Now if you want the answer to that, would you want your ‘second choice’ prop, flyhalf or any player answering that question against a Fiji or Samoa, or against the very best in the world (showing he is capable)?

• 183.XhosaKid:
  27 Jul 2011, 20:14 pm

  @Black Panther(Black Panther)-181: When was the last time Australia won in NZ

• 184.PissAnt:
  27 Jul 2011, 20:15 pm

  I am out folks, been fun, may check in two hours from now.

• 185.Bill Reyts:
  27 Jul 2011, 20:20 pm

  @PissAnt(PissAnt)-182:

  I don’t think too many answers here mate. Looks very bleak. Who from this squad could make the touring team. The coach takes the B team and the real coach is coaching the guys at home. Hmmm

• 186.ET.:
  27 Jul 2011, 20:25 pm

  @carol(carol)-167:

  Those numbers/figures mean absolutely nothing without having units of the measurement accompany them; more than one set of units can be applied so it is very important. For example the blood glucose probably reads 4.8mM and is good but here in the US that will be measured as perhaps 120 mg per dl of blood(normal 70-120mg/dl). The cholesterol is better reflected as measurement of HDL relative to LDL and even more etc.
  I assume all your figures are good and acceptable otherwise your doctor would have indicated the contrary.

  BMI means little other than aesthetic value; it is a low value measurement. Per cent (%) body fat tells much more wrt your potential health(for the female gender it should never be more than 25% as beyond that gets you the pathological tag of obesity – males 20%).

  Your blood pressure(understood the world over as mmHg) is impressive especially since you are at least 40 plus years old( most S.African males in their 30s are probably higher despite their sport).

  To put that bp into perspective despite being older than you mine just measured 3 days ago by my wife was 110/65 mmHg with a resting pulse rate of 55 bpm. But in the last 10 days up to yesterday I have been swimming anywhere from 1.5 to 2 miles a day. There is no better exercise than swimming but if you can add some jogging and/or cycling to that all the better for you as variiety is the spice of life.

• 187.Black Panther:
  27 Jul 2011, 20:26 pm

  PA

  fark, I would never have slotted you in with the other Desperate Dans here. Wow.

  The small difference is that the 4 players from the AB squad have been rested AFTER the 30-man squad was selected. Krusty somehow found cause to list 23 players as ‘injured’ BEFORE he announced his 30-man squad. Which if we didn’t all know was 1st Class BS at the time, well we sure do now that the World knows the 23 ‘injured’ are in training, full time.

  And you’re evidence in support of GH flouting the same rules – McCaw with a metal pin in his foot ? The same injury that put World football stars D.Beckham & W.Rooney at World Cups.

  Look, you’re doing a great job arguing a point that others here are simply not intelligent enough to verbalise. But, surely, with Krustys Fraud now all there in the open for all to see, even you should know when to quit when you’re ahead.

• 188.Black Panther:
  27 Jul 2011, 20:31 pm

  Xhosa

  Australia last won in NZ in 2001 – 11 x consecutive defeats.

  And at Eden Park in 1986.

  Thanks to my heckler, Wallabie, for bringing that to our attention.

  0800 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10

• 189.wallabie.:
  27 Jul 2011, 20:32 pm

  @Black Panther(Black Panther)-181:

  don’t get ahead of yourself there…just be careful you don’t trip against the books in some other stadium in another town….you may not get to auckland!

• 190.PissAnt:
  27 Jul 2011, 20:35 pm

  @Black Panther(Black Panther)-187:

  Mate all this will probably be summed up in one statement.

  As a South African rugby supporter I absolutely hate the World Cup.

  These arguments about the gimmicks surrounding it simply deviates from this one very simple, but powerful point, the RWC has allowed SA supporters to accept mediocrity.

• 191.wallabie.:
  27 Jul 2011, 20:37 pm

  @carol(carol)-179:

  I will leave the fashion tips to the younger generation…you know them….those modern day guys called metro sexuals.

  But for Keo’s eating manners at the table…now that is what really needs to be sorted! Keo needs the old fashioned spoon klap on the knuckles for forgetting his table etiquette.

  carol…once a hottie always a hottie for any age group!

• 192.Dawn:
  27 Jul 2011, 20:38 pm

  @wallabie.(wallabie.)-189:

  He already there

• 193.wallabie.:
  27 Jul 2011, 20:39 pm

  @wallabie.(wallabie.)-189:

  Books = Boks

• 194.Black Panther:
  27 Jul 2011, 20:40 pm

  hey Wallabie

  got any more new material that I can use in my routine ?

• 195.wallabie.:
  27 Jul 2011, 20:43 pm

  @Black Panther(Black Panther)-194:

  Yeah…I do!

  NZ are going to win the 2011 World Cup!

  another one

  What is the similarity between the AB’s and impotence…they both can’t get a to a semi!

• 196.semperfimamba:
  27 Jul 2011, 20:45 pm

  So what KEO so what ….who gives a damn if there is a camp? Is it coz ol PDV didnt just say so or are you sensationalizing this issue?? Could is be possible that some of the players are not in full contact drills and could possibly be studying how best to win the RWC, after all isnt that whats important?

  Not whether the public was told….man you jurnos sometimes y’all amaze me.

• 197.wallabie.:
  27 Jul 2011, 20:49 pm

  @Black Panther(Black Panther)-194:

  Okay I take it you did not like my material!!

• 198.ashampoopaloo:
  27 Jul 2011, 20:54 pm

  keo is a bit of a schmuck blowing up Rassies credentials while at the same time trying to tear PdV down

  PdV appointed Rassie as his wing man – not the other way around.

  PdV is still the main kokodoer while Rassie is simply the sidekick.

  In 2007 Jake had Smal and Coetsee as assistants but lost 49-0 and Annus horribilis in 06 to follow on with a thrashing in the 3N to follow in 07 before he realized Batman needed a Robin and fast so he got hold of Jones who bailed his sorry arse.

  PdV followed almost identical course.. Annus horribilis in 010 and realizing his assistants offer him pretty much stuff all, same as Smal and Coetsee did for White, he has enlisted Rassie as his technical man, almost identical scenario to White and Jones.

  Somehow Keo is punting Rassie as the tech guru and downgrading PdV to a nothing nobody, its all to do with prissy little ego back slap agendas and alliances.

  Bottom line is PdV got more humility and balls than all these hyped up super duper rugby poefta brains chucked together. He ain’t gonna concern himself with what schmucks like Keo or White or Tank Lanning or Gavin Rich or Jones and the rest of the toffee nosed idiots got to say for themselves.. he’s getting on with the business of getting his A team focused and ready for the WC, and that entails tech analysis sessions with Rassie in Rustenberg… who the fck cares whether its shrouded in some cloak and dagger type secrecy shenanigans to get around the Sanzar protocol statutory agreements.

• 199.Dawn:
  27 Jul 2011, 20:54 pm

  HM Keo and his minions are hacks

• 200.Black Panther:
  27 Jul 2011, 20:55 pm

  PA

  see now, I TOLD YOU that you were smarter than most here.

  I look at GHs teams this week and last and whichever players have been selected or rested, I still see an AB team that I recognise.

  I grew up mythologising the Springboks as our 1 true rival. I don’t recognise that same team here.

  If it’s all about winning the NZ vs SA Keo-blogging wars with smoke’n'mirrors well that’s acceptable for what it is. And if SA are happy to subordinate the History of the Springbok jersey all in the cause of 1 key victory every 4 years, then that is their choice too. But let’s not pretend it’s something that it’s not. My guess is that no less than 25 of the 30-man touring Bok squad wouldn’t otherwise get anywhere near a full-strength team from SA in any other year. And why should anyone have to accept that, Safa or not ?

  The likes of Boy George can call Krusty the Emperor with No Clothes all he likes when it suits him. But if ever a fan like him truly deserved Krusty as his national team coach, then it is him. You on the other hand should know better.

  I’ve been saying here for past 2 years that I hope the Springboks, and every other team for that matter, turn up to the RWC in NZ with a full-strength team at peak fitness because I believe every Big Stage deserves it’s Stars. I’ve lost count of the times the locals have been willing McCaw and DC to suffer injuries and thereby increasing their teams chances. These are not sports fans, let alone rugby ones. they are the same numbskulls who cheer for the opposition to win when their own team is not good enough to complete the task themselves. Good luck to them if that’s what makes them tick.

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