Mostert, Deysel start for Boks
28 Jul 2011
Peter de Villiers has made four changes to his starting line-up for the Springboks’ next Tri-Nations clash against the All Blacks in Wellington.
Lock Gerhard Mostert, who was a late injury replacement for Flip van der Merwe, has been rushed into the second row to make his Test debut this Saturday. Blindside flank Jean Deysel is also promoted to a shuffled loose trio, with Danie Rossouw shifting to No 8 and Ashley Johnson falling to the bench. Deon Stegmann keeps his No 6 jumper.
The other two changes are to the backline, with outside centre Adi Jacobs replacing Wynand Olivier in the midfield and Juan de Jongh picked at inside centre. Fullback Pat Lambie fills in for the injured Gio Aplon, who returned home with Van der Merwe on Wednesday.
South Africa – 15 Pat Lambie, 14 Bjorn Basson, 13 Adi Jacobs, 12 Juan de Jongh, 11 Lwazi Mvovo, 10 Morne Steyn, 9 Ruan Pienaar, 8 Danie Rossouw, 7 Jean Deysel, 6 Deon Stegmann, 5 Alistair Hargreaves, 4 Gerhard Mostert, 3 Werner Kruger, 2 John Smit (c), 1 Dean Greyling.
Subs: 16 Chiliboy Ralepelle, 17 CJ van der Linde, 18 Ryan Kankowski, 19 Ashley Johnson, 20 Charl McLeod, 21 Wynand Olivier, 22 Odwa Ndungane.
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28 Jul 2011, 08:31 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-31: Don’t forget that this is the same Steyn who put 31 points past the All Blacks in 2009, so he’s not a complete doos with a rugby ball.
28 Jul 2011, 08:31 am
I guess it good to be positive, and say, for the boks to win they need play as a unit and be at their very best. But if i had to be a little more on the negative side: I hope the All Blacks have shocker and we manage to catch them on a bad day!!
I think id prefer the second one!
28 Jul 2011, 08:31 am
sorry for the repost, my bad!
28 Jul 2011, 08:33 am
@Esoteric(Esoteric)-51:
No one is doubting his kicking ability. But the game has changed, Steyn hasnt. You need to be able to do a lot more than just kick a rugby to be an international flyhalf.
28 Jul 2011, 08:33 am
@Esoteric(Esoteric)-51: With the rugby ball…maybe, having the rugby ball placed down on a T, not so much.
28 Jul 2011, 08:35 am
I think PDV has made the right call starting Morne, it would have been real risky to hand Pat Lambie his first start at flyhalf against a rampaging All Blacks team away from home.
28 Jul 2011, 08:36 am
@Dazzler(Dazzler)-54: I like the way you put that. The game has modernized, Steyn is still trying to do it the Old School way…Times have changed.
28 Jul 2011, 08:38 am
@The Bok Identity(The Bok Identity)-56: Lambie may be young and inexperienced…but i believe he would have handled the pressure pretty well. He is just a phenomenal talent.
28 Jul 2011, 08:44 am
What worries me too is Lambie is going to have a long day at the office, considering the AB backline against the defence of Mvovo, Jacobs, De Jongh , Steyn & Pienaar….Steggies Deysel and Pakslae can’t be everywhere…..
28 Jul 2011, 08:47 am
For this week i would have gone for this:
15. Ruan Pienaar
14. Lwazi Mvovo
13. Juan De Jongh
12. Adi Jacobs
11. Basson
10. Patrcik Lambie
9. Charl Mcleod
8. Ryan Kankowski
7. Jean Deysel
6. Stegmann
5. Hargreaves
4. Danie Russow
3. Werner Kruger
2. Chiliboy
1. C.J van de Linde
16. John Smit
17. Dean Greyling
18. Gerhard Mostert
19. Ashley Johnson
20. Morne Styen
21. Wynand Olivier
22. Odwa Ndungane
28 Jul 2011, 08:50 am
Danie, Deysel and Stegmann is a very one dimensional trio.
No Johnson or Kanko means there is precious little speed to cross cover and chase down outside backs.
Stegmann, no words can actually describe how lucky he is to be there. He can just thank his lucky stars he plays in Blue at home. WO as well.
28 Jul 2011, 08:53 am
This is what you end up with when players get “10-year” contracts with SARU. They can be useless, but don’t worry, as long as my contract protects me I’m fine……
I’m a Bulls surporter, but not blind. We all know Wynand is not the worlds best centre though he sort of fits in with the Bulls pattern. He struggles every time in a Bok jersey, maybe because he only plays in “B” sides or **** Muir (who was a great centre) can not coach him properly. At least his defense is great. AD will not finish this test.
Could nobody in the Bulls or Bok camp see that Morne Steyn has no clue or / and commitment on defense? It started in 2010!!! I feel sorry for Coenie Oosthuizen and Adriaan Strauss – not even on the bench. Just there to carry the bags.
The camp? It is great, let they learn the rules for a start.
28 Jul 2011, 08:56 am
old skoppie is gonna be furious , he dont like lambie much, and Divvy has said Lambie is the future of Bok rugby ,
can you imagine Skoppies ramblings when he reads that??????? 
28 Jul 2011, 08:57 am
@sharkie10
Fully agree with team, who would be your captain then?
28 Jul 2011, 08:58 am
@Sharkie10(Sharkie10)-60:
Unfortunately there’s more to it then simply asking the player to play in whatever position. Not only has Ruan Pienaar been in outstanding form at 9 for Ulster (won Players player of the year, and won them a few in the last minute), he hasn’t played fullback for a long time, and before that he never was a fullback. What would be the point if we weren’t intending on making him into a fullback permanently? All it would do is p1ss him off more.
Also Werner Kruger had the shocker last week. Greyling held his own in the scrums sort of. It was Kruger who got crushed.
Juan de Jongh is a tough guy with vision. He’s a better 12 then Adi Jacobs. After JdV and Jaque Fourie end their Bok careers, de Jongh will be at 12 with Sadie at 13.
28 Jul 2011, 08:59 am
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-42:
i like it that were on the same wave length. for a bonus – watch deon stegmann give heinrich brussow a mindffuck of note on sat with a man of the match performance.
28 Jul 2011, 09:01 am
@Esoteric(Esoteric)-51:
2009? That so effing last year!
What about the 2009 EOYT?
2010 3N ?
28 Jul 2011, 09:03 am
I do not care who says what this will be our best back line going forward to RWC:
15. France Steyn
14. JPP
13. Jaque Fourie
12. Jean de Villiers
11. Aplon
10. Butch James
9. Fourie Du Preez
20. Ruan Pienaar
21. Patrick Lambie
22. Juan De Jongh
Sorry, hate me if you want, IMO no place for the M. Steyn, Bryan Habs, Meisiekind, or any of those over the hill glory boys at RWC!!!
28 Jul 2011, 09:04 am
@deon stegmann just released his autobiography – deon stegmann the legend…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-66: Yeah and watch Malema joining the DA before the next general election.
28 Jul 2011, 09:04 am
@The Bok Identity(The Bok Identity)-56:
The Boks will lose anyways with Stain at the helm, whynot give Bambie the full 80 min at 10 to see if hes the King of Kingspark
Whats the risk in that?
28 Jul 2011, 09:07 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-67: Actually I think you’ll find that it is the year before last.
28 Jul 2011, 09:08 am
@Sharkie10(Sharkie10)-68: Jacobs are a better impact player then De Jongh, was proved in the Super 15…
28 Jul 2011, 09:08 am
@Dazzler(Dazzler)-54: True that the game has indeed changed but that it is the whole ‘Bok team rather than Steyn alone, who have not changed?
28 Jul 2011, 09:09 am
@deon stegmann just released his autobiography – deon stegmann the legend…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-66:
What?
Unlikely. It was more likely againt the Wallabies.
They will probably not win vs the ABs.
I know it’s a joke, but I’m not joking when I say that as lucky as some say he is to be there, so lucky can Brussow count himself for not having to play in this team.
28 Jul 2011, 09:11 am
@Hendrik Pienaar(hendrikp)-65: I agree with you on Pienaar, i was trying to make pace to get Lambie at 10 and Drop Steyn. Some say just use Steyn at fullback, not sure how that will go down. I just dont want him playing at 10 anymore, he stifles the whole backline, and make them all look bad via his one dimensional, playing from to deep style.
Guess you could leave De Jongh at 12 and Adi 13. Just thought De Jongh has more pace, and with more time at 13, and with Adi on his inside, whom (argue if you want), is one of the best ball distributors, and with Lambie at 10, i think De Jongh will do well at 13 with more time and space.
28 Jul 2011, 09:12 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-67:
what about the eoyt 2009? they played 3 games and lost 2 in europe after seeing off the b&i lions as well the ab’s and oz before that winning 7 out of 9 games. are you joking?
in total 8 wins and 4 losses for the year. are you joking?
2010 wasn’t a great year but they still managed 8 wins from 14. are you joking?
28 Jul 2011, 09:13 am
@Esoteric(Esoteric)-71:
Exactly
28 Jul 2011, 09:13 am
@Two Eyed(Two Eyed)-69:
stranger things have happened on a rugby field. just ask the all blacks.
28 Jul 2011, 09:16 am
@Sharkie10(Sharkie10)-75: the best bet for this match would have been
09 mcelod
10 Ruan
11 Mvovo
12 WO
13 Adi
14 Odwa
15 Lambie
of course i prefer lambie at 10 , but taking current situation….
WO yes i know he is useless but out of JDJ jacobs and him he is the better defender
Adi for me out of the 3 reads the play the best and runs into spaces better
And odwa might not have the pace but his alround game is better the Basson as he looks for work and defends , something Basson just cannot seem to do
28 Jul 2011, 09:18 am
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-42: Agree 100%. Pienaar is probably the only guy who thinks he is a 9. If he WANTED to play 15, put his heart and mind into it, played there for a few seasons, I can easily see him as one of the world’s best 15′s. And I also don’t understand how F Steyn thinks he is a 10…is the problem with junior level coaching?
28 Jul 2011, 09:20 am
Only the ZIM dollar , looses its value faster than the BOK jersey .
28 Jul 2011, 09:21 am
@deon stegmann just released his autobiography – deon stegmann the legend…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-76:
Morne only came on after Ruan Woods had a crappy day aiming for the poles. He slotted the final 3 points and now suddenly he won the BI Lions all alone?
3rd test they got a hiding!
All Blacks was Carter and McCaw less for the majority of 2009 TN. And Brussouw and the forwards was dominant sweeping all in front of them. Hence oppurtunities for penalties….enters Stain….
Stain has always been ****!
28 Jul 2011, 09:24 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-82: agreed and actually ruan played very well in that test , it was just that missed kick or 2
28 Jul 2011, 09:24 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-82: Ja ‘cos 31 points past the All Blacks… by himself, is ****?
28 Jul 2011, 09:25 am
@Sharkie10(Sharkie10)-75: My thoughts too…
28 Jul 2011, 09:26 am
@President_of_the_Sharks_rugby_experts(sharks_lover)-79: WO might get a chance later in the game @ 12 replacing JDJ…
28 Jul 2011, 09:27 am
@Sharkie10(Sharkie10)-58:
I rate Lambie highly too,he is very mature for his young age from what I have seen of him but starting him at flyhalf in this game would have been career suicide imho.
Hopefully him and Steyn alternate attack/defense duties during the game.
28 Jul 2011, 09:28 am
@Charlie(Charlie)-86: lol charlie
you must remember , wo and adi know each others play better as they been around the bok squad much longer
same as why i would have played odwa instead of basson ,lambie, odwa and mvovo know each others style of play
28 Jul 2011, 09:30 am
I just wish they had brought Butch along for this tour…he does not realy need the rest, as a matter of fact he needs to play, as he has been out of test rugby for a while now and needs to prove to the public he is the flyhalf to take us to our RWC title defense. And i am sure that the back line as it is now, but with butch at 10 would have looked 100% better. As for defense, he would have strengthened the pivot channel considerably…
But no, we are stuck with The Steyn, who quite frankly gives me a pain.
28 Jul 2011, 09:36 am
This team’s gonna be slaughtered.
28 Jul 2011, 09:36 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-82:
well thank god your not a selector.
28 Jul 2011, 09:37 am
@President_of_the_Sharks_rugby_experts(sharks_lover)-88:
If we are talking combinations from franchises Charl Mcleo at 9, with Lambie at 10, proven combination in Currie Cup and Super Rugby, then with Adi at 12, He has played along side Lambie for the Sharks too. and then you mentioned, Odwa and Lwazi who also combine well for the sharks. Some will think just because i am a sharks supporter, thus my thinkink, not the case, unfortunately or fortunately, which ever way you look at it, these are the available players at this stage.
28 Jul 2011, 09:38 am
This team is weaker than last week’s team at fullback, centre, lock and probably at loose forward as well. I think Johnson was unfairly judged last week. To me he offers more than Deysel.
As for Adi at centre – ja, nothing more to say about that.
Also, we are going to miss Aplon’s pace at fullback. Lambie isn’t in his class.
28 Jul 2011, 09:39 am
@Esoteric(Esoteric)-84:
had he been the starting 10 against the lions the boks would have finished the game and the series long before.
28 Jul 2011, 09:39 am
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-93: aplons injury a real blow….I was hoping to see a proper flyhalf in Lambie …
28 Jul 2011, 09:39 am
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-90:
Yep,.
Some more Bulls-Bok bashing beckoning.
28 Jul 2011, 09:39 am
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-93: yeah tacitus we know , nothing from the Sharks could ever have class ,
wouldnt expect any less from you
28 Jul 2011, 09:40 am
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-96: come now *** , sharks players take just as much of a bashing if not more
28 Jul 2011, 09:41 am
boks need to start well…..must not let kiwis get off to a flyer….
I reckon boks will put up a far better fight this SAT
28 Jul 2011, 09:41 am
@deon stegmann just released his autobiography – deon stegmann the legend…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-91:
no chance of that.
mighty failed woodwork.
anyway he is a crusader.
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