Boks latest – Noakes influential in ‘rested’ Boks
4 Aug 2011
Keo.co.za brings you news from the Springboks’ camp.
Noakes influential in ‘rested’ Boks - Springboks assistant coach Gary Gold has caused some confusion by saying that the Springboks were ‘rested’ on advice from Professor Tim Noakes rather than injured like they claimed.
Speaking to Beeld, Gold said they had taken the advice of ‘medical people’ like Noakes, a vocal critic of the punishing schedule the players are made to endure, in pulling a group of 21, mostly first-choice, players from Tri-Nations tour.
However, the line peddled to to the media and public was that the players omitted from the Tri-Nations tour were injured, which precluded their selection. Springboks coach Peter de Villiers also repeatedly dismissed claims that they were being rested, and scoffed at reports that they were in a training camp in Rustenburg in a period of what conditioning experts term ‘active rest’ (training without the physical and mental demands of a match).
‘Now that we have given these players a rest, the team is suddenly unprepared for the World Cup. The tour was a disappointment, but we have a lot of experience to fall back on,’ Gold said.
Meanwhile, Gold added that concern about the ageing Springbok team was unfounded. ‘The team is on average 2½ years younger than England’s team was when it won the 2003 World Cup,’ he said. He continued, saying the coaching team is 90% to 95% sure of how their World Cup side will look, with only a few positions still up for the taking.
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4 Aug 2011, 07:14 am
Healthy Dragons
4 Aug 2011, 07:20 am
this is getting old and tired…lets have some real rugby analysis now, cmon ffs we have a worldcup in a few weeks….can we get some real rugby journalism now
4 Aug 2011, 07:24 am
So what’s new! Everyone knows they were being rested despite their “injured” story.
4 Aug 2011, 07:33 am
*cue* Tickles & Rossoneri
4 Aug 2011, 07:40 am
I find it funny that Gold is saying the Boks are not over the hill, when the Aussies are saying that the All Blacks are over the hill, and the Ab’s are a younger group than the boks. Wonder what the Aussies think of the Boks then.
4 Aug 2011, 07:41 am
oh gary!…
4 Aug 2011, 07:41 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-4: All I’m saying is what is the big hoopla about. We all know Saru lied through their teeth about the whole “injuries” story and just wanted to rest their A boks.
4 Aug 2011, 07:44 am
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-5:
What is the average age of the all blacks vs the boks?
4 Aug 2011, 07:47 am
that was going to be my next question gunther…
4 Aug 2011, 07:48 am
‘Active rest’ Hehe.
Thats a new one.
4 Aug 2011, 07:53 am
Boks an ‘embarrassment’
Cape Town – Springbok assistant coach **** Muir says he is ashamed of the way the Springboks performed on their recent tour of Australasia.
He said the Springboks were an “embarrassment” after they first lost 39-20 to Australia in Sydney, and then 40-7 to New Zealand in Wellington.
Muir says the two Test matches were a wake-up call to the Boks, but also admits that they made the wrong choices.
“We expected more from the team. It was a risk to throw so many young and inexperience players in at the deep end,” Muir told the Beeld newspaper.
He said it’s never nice to be embarrassed in the way they were.
However, Muir has assured Bok fans not to get too despondent ahead of the Rugby World Cup.
“Expect big things from the team. It will be important to win the (Tri-Nations) games in South Africa,” said Muir.
4 Aug 2011, 07:56 am
So Divvy did not know that his players were in Rustenburg and Gold had no idea that his players were injured … and this confused Keo journalist
4 Aug 2011, 07:57 am
@justrugby(justrugby)-11:
**** is a ****.
4 Aug 2011, 08:00 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-9:
My next question for lilly is which boks were rested and which were injured?
4 Aug 2011, 08:11 am
@Gunther is an agent for white capital(gunther)-13:
He is an embarrassment to the coaching fraternity !!
4 Aug 2011, 08:16 am
There you go! Hobbyhorse-”scientist” and one-trick-pony Tim Noakes wrecked the Boks.
Told you so!
4 Aug 2011, 08:20 am
I don’t think we should be concerned with the players age. If you’re still as fit and strong it shouldn’t make much difference.
The difference between SA and England is that England had an excellent 2002 season, and were just as good leading into the 2003 World Cup. The Boks struggled badly last year, even losing to Scotland on the end of year tour (remind anyone of 2002?). The same Scotland who now lose to Italy on regular occasions.
Our problem is the build-up to the World Cup. But they can make that right with good wins over Australia and NZ at home with a full strength squad.
4 Aug 2011, 08:21 am
@TheTackler(TheTackler)-16:
Indeed.
He wrecked them in 2007 too.
4 Aug 2011, 08:28 am
@Gunther is an agent for white capital(gunther)-18: And the one trick he has is winning a World Cup.
Personally I dont mind seeing him repeating that trick.
4 Aug 2011, 08:29 am
along with this report can we also have a schedule of PdV’s toilet times and how it fits in to the Boks training schedule and also can we have an article on how Gary Gold apparently wipes his ar$e from back to front and the impact this is having on the unofficial Bok rest camp.
4 Aug 2011, 08:32 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-19:
Poor ticklish.
Looks like he will be making his quadrannual visit ti heartbreak hotel
4 Aug 2011, 08:33 am
Noakes is a “gatkramp”! also when will NZ learn that Mills is hondk@k?? he’s the weaklink in the strong NZ team
4 Aug 2011, 08:36 am
@Old_Saru_was_Vodacom_Cup_standard(WO_to_kill_Sir_Elton)-22: dude
if mils is “hondkak” then francois steyn is what?
4 Aug 2011, 08:41 am
who’s talking about Frans? I rate Mills on his performances in the last 3 years – For the Chiefs in super rugby & for the all blacks! … really not good!
4 Aug 2011, 08:47 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-23:
Let’s hope frankie has recovered from his paunch injury in rustenburg.
4 Aug 2011, 08:47 am
@foreverrugga(foreverrugga)-20:
i’d love to know what kind of flieks pdid’s likes to watch. you can tell a lot about a man by the movies he watches.
ryan? john? or the rest of you guys, if your reading this. please ask pdid’s next time keo or you guys speak to him, thanks.
4 Aug 2011, 08:50 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-23:
francois steyn would make you eat hondkuk. and he’d make you like it.
4 Aug 2011, 08:50 am
@Old_Saru_was_Vodacom_Cup_standard(WO_to_kill_Sir_Elton)-24: well your rating mechanisms are kak, Mils has arguably been the best fullback in Test rugby in the past 3 years, followed by the likes of beale, foden, dagg, jane, aplon, kearney.
4 Aug 2011, 08:52 am
Transformation, you don’t watch much rugby do you? How is the kaizer chiefs team looking this year?
4 Aug 2011, 08:52 am
@we have it on good authority that on september 11, a legend will rise…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-27: well if he likes the taste of hondkak then he’d be the one eating it
4 Aug 2011, 08:53 am
Noakes made a statement recently that ‘resting’ the Boks now is too little too late, although some rest is better than none.
‘Resting’ players can never be a spur of the moment decision, it is something done over months and years following a program.
4 Aug 2011, 08:55 am
@Old_Saru_was_Vodacom_Cup_standard(WO_to_kill_Sir_Elton)-29: hehehe it’s looking quite good, their main striker Knowledge Musona has just signed with Bundesliga side Hoffenheim and they’ve brought in Bafana striker Bernard Parker to replace him, in the midfield Nengomashe & Shaba will still be manning things…
4 Aug 2011, 08:57 am
@Gunther is an agent for white capital(gunther)-25:
well according to the Frog website he is a light 100kg after Rustenburg he should be fighting fit.
4 Aug 2011, 08:59 am
@we have it on good authority that on september 11, a legend will rise…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-26: no definitely, and also maybe what his star sign is, and whether he takes a dump in the morning or at night, then we can really understand how the Bok team is being managed.
4 Aug 2011, 09:00 am
But benni will kill them in the Chief/Pirates matches! There will be no stopping benni
4 Aug 2011, 09:03 am
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-31: I have great respect for Dr Noakes but sometimes I think he over- complicates stuff, rugby is a sport after all not a science subject. JP Petersen made that tackle against Fiji and Dannie Rossouw made his against England and Bill came home, simply really.
4 Aug 2011, 09:05 am
For those who doubted Schalk’s injury… an update from someone who knows Schalk personally… who told me what happened and has happened…
Schalk apparently dislocated his thumb in the 10th minute of the game. He fixed it himself and carried on playing but a few minutes later broke it and other bones in his hand very badly… (the same hand he broke badly in an accident as a child) he completed the half and at half time asked the doc to strap it up so that he could play the second half…
apparently the doc was not the regular doc and this guy is a hand specialist… he examined schalk’s hand and said the injury was so severe there was no way he could play and knew immediately schalk would need surgery…
they have screwed a plate into place to hold things together and schalk has a steel pin through the middle of his thumb-bones from the first joint and through two bones and out the back at his wrist… This is why the plaster cast did not cover his thumb as the pins and screws need to be free… and teh cast is to hold his wrist immobile…
they are also apparently already working on some sort of lightweight mould/glove a la andre joubert for him to use in the world cup…
so any comment that he turned his back on his team are simply made by misinformed people who have an axe to grind…
4 Aug 2011, 09:05 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-32:
how could you leave out benni?
4 Aug 2011, 09:07 am
@Old_Saru_was_Vodacom_Cup_standard(WO_to_kill_Sir_Elton)-35: ja, nobody will stop him from eating right, he is football’s ricky january
4 Aug 2011, 09:07 am
@Old_Saru_was_Vodacom_Cup_standard(WO_to_kill_Sir_Elton)-35: I am so glad Ajax Cape Town didnt sign Benni, he is fat and lazy….he might have a career in rugby or cricket.
I read somewhere that they are paying R250 000 a month!! for two years.
4 Aug 2011, 09:07 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-32: Always been a fan of Parker, lets hope his move to Chiefs sees him cement a place in the Bafana starting 11.
4 Aug 2011, 09:09 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-32: potentially going to sign Tsepo Masilela, things looking great…
4 Aug 2011, 09:09 am
@we have it on good authority that on september 11, a legend will rise…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-38: Benni has dumped Ajax to go to Pie-rats, so i can’t mention him when discussing Chiefs players now can I?
4 Aug 2011, 09:10 am
@Old_Saru_was_Vodacom_Cup_standard(WO_to_kill_Sir_Elton)-22:
Ophou kukpraat vroeg innie oggend
4 Aug 2011, 09:10 am
@ufo(ufo)-37:
wowzers! thanks for that.
the incredible schalk will rise again…
4 Aug 2011, 09:10 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-32: Someone told me Musona will stay on loan at Chiefs because Hoffenheim dont have place for him now.
4 Aug 2011, 09:11 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-43: “Pie-rats”
What makes me think you’re not a fan of the Buccaneers?
4 Aug 2011, 09:13 am
Latest odds – outright winner for Rugby World Cup 2011 – NZ overwhelming favourites:
New Zealand: 3/4
Australia: 22/5
South Africa: 41/5
England: 147/10
France: 21
Very good odds there for bets on South Africa and England.
But here come some fantastic value bets:
NZ eliminated in quarter final: 18:1
NZ eliminated in semi-final: 7:2
NZ runner up: 9:2
4 Aug 2011, 09:14 am
@XhosaKid(XhosaKid)-42: That will be a great signing. That boy needs to play.
4 Aug 2011, 09:14 am
@we have it on good authority that on september 11, a legend will rise…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-45:
you’re welcome…
the guy is amazing… his ability to ignore and/or play through pain is quite profound… IMO…
yes, he will rise again… without him in our WC team our chances diminish dramatically… without him AND juan we’re in deep schtoep…
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