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23 May 2013
Willie le Roux and Lappies Labuschagne have finally been rewarded with spots in the Springbok training group. They are two of eight that are first timers in Springbok training groups this year. The others are Gio Aplon, Trevor Nyakane, JJ Engelbrecht, Lionel Mapoe, Wiehahn Herbst and Demetri Catrakilis. The group of players will assemble in Durban for the second training camp of the year, before the final squad for the Incoming Tours is selected. Players not considered due to injury include: JP Pietersen, Jaco Taute, Frans Steyn, Johan Goosen, Duane Vermeulen, Pat Cilliers and Frans Malherbe. ... Read Article23 May 2013
MARK KEOHANE, in his weekly KEOtv offering, is picking the Bulls in Durban and another Stormers shambles in Cape Town. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m3yMKuy8yM Read Article25 Apr 2013
Jan Serfontein, the player of last year's under 20 World Championship, will head the baby Boks defence in France. Serfontein and Kings wing Sergeal Petersen are two Super Rugby regulars to make Dawie Theron's squad and brilliant flyhalf Handre Pollard is another to play in a second successive tournament. Theron's squad lost a three-match series 2-1 to Argentina in Argentina. Serfontein, Petersen and Western Province's Cheslin Kolbe did not play in those matches. Bulls loose forward Ruan Steenkamp is captain. Serfontein and Pollard are the only two squad members from last year's ... Read Article14 May 2013
All Blacks coach Steve Hansen has selected several uncapped Blues players in his training group. Hansen confirmed 38 names and this included many from the potent Blues backline. The Highlanders, despite only winning one match in this year's Super Rugby competition, have six players in the group. An obvious area of weakness is at hooker where Hansen has selected veterans Andrew Hore and Keven Mealamu and Canes Dane Coles. Options are limited and it certainly is a concern for New Zealanders. No overseas-based players were considered, as it is NZRFU policy. Among the uncapped players ... Read Article15 May 2013
French coach Philipe Saint-Andre has included three South African-born players for the three-Test series against the All Blacks in New Zealand. Racing Metro flank Bernard le Roux and Clermont prop Daniel Kotze join Antonie Claassen in a squad that includes eight new caps. Fijian-born Clermont winger Noa Nakaitaci is among the newcomers. Saint-Andre has rested flyhalf Francois Trinh-Duc, but included Toulon's Frederic Michalak. France play world champions New Zealand on June 8, 15 and 22 in Auckland, Hamilton and New Plymouth respectively. French super club Toulon's foreign dominance ... Read Article5 Mar 2013
MARK KEOHANE writes the Varsity Cup in its first year rocked. Since then it's just another professional tournament. The Varsity Cup may have the innovation of doing a few things differently, but what was supposed to be a celebration of student rugby somehow just seems like another tournament, in which the traditional power houses remain the traditional strengths in the tournament. Much has been made of the Port Elizabeth-based Nelson Mandela University display this season and equally there has been bewilderment at how poor Shimlas have been. But it seems the old one two of Stellenbosch University ... Read Article12 May 2013
Marcus Watson scored in extra time to beat the Blitzbokke in the London World Series Sevens Cup quarter-finals. The teams were level 14-all at full time. Watson's try came four minutes into extra time. England won 19-14. England had the chance to win the match with the last play of the game in normal time. They were awarded a penalty and opted to take a drop kick for goal. It missed. Watson then rounded off a move after England had retained possession for two minutes. South Africa suffered further embarrassment when they lost for a second time in the tournament to the USA and were eliminated ... Read Article8 Jan 2013
Limpopo will play in the Vodacom Cup as a separate side for the first time this year. The region, which is a sub-union of the Blue Bulls Rugby Union, has been granted a place in the tournament in its own rights to help foster rugby in South Africa’s far north. They join the 14 provincial unions as well as the returning Pampas XV from Argentina in the tournament, which kicks off in the second week of March and concludes in mid-May. The Polokwane-based Limpopo team will play in the North Section of the competition, along with the Blue Bulls, Golden Lions, Griffons, Leopards, Pumas, Valke ... Read Article10 Aug 2011
RYAN VREDE says that Rassie Erasmus, Fourie du Preez and Victor Matfield must not be spared criticism if the Springboks’ game plan is ineffective and fails to yield results.
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MARK KEOHANE, in his weekly KEOtv offering, is picking the Bulls in Durban and another Stormers shambles in Cape Town. Read More
Willie le Roux and Lappies Labuschagne have finally been rewarded with spots in the Springbok training group. They are two of eight that are first timers in Springbok training groups this year. Read More
The Rugby Football Union has turned down a proposal from their Welsh counterparts to stage the 2015 World Cup pool match between England and Wales in Cardiff. Read More
Marcus Watson scored in extra time to beat the Blitzbokke in the London World Series Sevens Cup quarter-finals. Read More
French coach Philipe Saint-Andre has included three South African-born players for the three-Test series against the All Blacks in New Zealand. Read More
All Blacks coach Steve Hansen has selected several uncapped Blues players in his training group. Read More
325 Comments
10 Aug 2011, 14:03 pm
Ag f0k Ryan, why so negative. You’re talking like they have already lost Saturday. Who do you really support?
Share what blame. They haven’t lost.
You’re a real douche bag sometimes.
10 Aug 2011, 14:06 pm
Ryan you are not a douche, but you are negative.
Step up my man!
Enjoy the festivities leading up to the showpiece and go wild!
10 Aug 2011, 14:07 pm
This keo tv is shiite. Put a transcript up as well guys.
10 Aug 2011, 14:08 pm
@Griqua_warrior(willievz)-2:
This video should’ve been put on hold until after the game.
Now it just appears like he has no faith. No belief in the players that have done it before. Won’t be surprised to see him walking around in an All Blacks jersey or something.
10 Aug 2011, 14:09 pm
Who cares about blame at this stage? Lets just fix the problems and move on. We’ve got a World Cup to win!
10 Aug 2011, 14:10 pm
@Yetirat(Yetirat)-5:
Agree totally.
Let the team peak at the right time.
10 Aug 2011, 14:11 pm
@Yetirat(Yetirat)-5: Correction – no World Cup to win, but a World Cup to defend!
10 Aug 2011, 14:13 pm
@JockBok(JockBok)-3: They could never do that – you’d end up reading words like “fantastical”
10 Aug 2011, 14:14 pm
It’s easy to be wise in hindsight. I continue to be amazed at how usually insightful, intelligent supporters are divorced from their senses whenever the RWC approaches. I’ve had the ‘negative’ debate consistently and am tired of explaining that it isn’t my job to be a cheerleader, although I’ll celebrate any success the Boks achieve and highlight any positives that will come out of such successes.
10 Aug 2011, 14:15 pm
@Griqua_warrior(willievz)-7: Damn right! And I’ll be buggered if we’re going to give it up without an almighty scrap!
10 Aug 2011, 14:21 pm
@Ryan(Ryan)-9:
The difference is I don’t start criticising these guys before they’ve done anything wrong. I actually think we’ve got a hell of a good chance of doing well in this World Cup.
I don’t see articles in the New Zealand Herald saying McCaw & Carter shouldn’t be spared blame if the All Blacks don’t win the World Cup.
This video is a pre-emptive strike. My question is why?
10 Aug 2011, 14:22 pm
@Ryan(Ryan)-9:
True, it is easy to be wise in hindsight. I appreciate your proactive stance towards the issue at hand. For what it’s worth, I have said before that you are my favourite Keo writer, and I guess proactive is the key word here.
But please – I beg you and the other journos here – be critical all you want, but do it constructively. Because the way the media go about their business eventually syphons onto the field of play and into the mindset of the players, and affects results.
10 Aug 2011, 14:23 pm
Ryan
No one expects you to be a cheerleader mate.
Just tey to be pos?t?ve and f?nd someth?ng to be ceerful about ?nstead of sound?ng l?ke a nagg?ng w?fe all the t?me.
Okes watch rugby to get awau from nagg?ng cap?che?
Use ?t dont use ?t.
P.s. You are a l?ar. How does that feel?
10 Aug 2011, 14:24 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-13: Blackberry problems, I assume?
10 Aug 2011, 14:27 pm
@Ryan(Ryan)-9: The key in your 2nd sentence Ryan, is the word “supporters”. Sometimes, in a time of need, it is better to show a little faith in people and let “insight” and “senses” take a quiet break in the corner.
10 Aug 2011, 14:28 pm
@Griqua_warrior(willievz)-12:
Amen. Surely the criticism thrown at them all the time affects the psyche of the team. The All Blacks play with a quiet confidence because they don’t have to put up with this rubbish. They are expected to do well, whereas Ryan shows us all here what he is expecting… failure.
If he’d simply added in something along the lines of “if the Boks yield results Erasmus, du Preez & Matfield deserve some credit” I would have been less critical.
10 Aug 2011, 14:28 pm
@Griqua_warrior(willievz)-14: Looks like grammer problems !! LOL
10 Aug 2011, 14:29 pm
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-16:
In other words… he’s negative until they win. Same way most of these guys were until we won the last World Cup.
10 Aug 2011, 14:30 pm
Oh and I did not look at the vid but I am also glad about it ! LOL , by the way just out of interest how can Rassie be blamed after just 1 session ?
10 Aug 2011, 14:30 pm
Share the blame?
Am I the only one backing us to beat both Australia and New Zealand in the next two weeks? Come on Ryan, how about some positives?
10 Aug 2011, 14:30 pm
Ryan is being a realist….we have already seen what happened on the away leg….gross humiliation…..we are far too forgiving….thats why we farken 2 nd rate man….
Please holy angels let these old farkers and 3 stooges farkoff a sap….
10 Aug 2011, 14:31 pm
@Griqua_warrior(willievz)-12: The Springboks claim they never read the media. PdV even famously said: ‘I am what I am and I don’t give a damn’ in reference to what the media and public’s perception is of him. Based on those offerings I wouldn’t be worried about keo.co.za derailing the Boks’ World Cup campaign.
10 Aug 2011, 14:34 pm
@Jer1cho(Jer1cho)-20:
I’m with you. Springboks should have no problems in the next 2 tests. And I predict MOTM will be Brussow in both. If Brussow doesn’t play… well then it’ll be another story.
10 Aug 2011, 14:36 pm
@grant10(grant10)-21:
Completely different team to the one that toured. Not saying I was happy about what happened in Australasia, but can you blame the guys who were at home for it? These are the best we’ve got… and I think it’ll show.
10 Aug 2011, 14:37 pm
@Ryan(Ryan)-22: keep up the good work young man….never ever be afraid to speak your mind….you are spot on here!
10 Aug 2011, 14:38 pm
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-24: you may just be in for a helleva shock this weekend….
10 Aug 2011, 14:39 pm
so no game time in 8 weeks and theyve already going to beat both NZ and Aus?
lmfao how delusional are you saffas man… so theyve been together for so many years, they STILL havent had a hit out in 8 weeks…
suddenly they are going to just turn up and win? bwahahaha
Wales are the real danger, a definite banana skin game that one…
10 Aug 2011, 14:41 pm
@Ryan(Ryan)-22:
Of course they read the media.
In fact, you would be very, very surprised about the real identity of some bloggers here.
But anyways, don’t let a personal vendetta against an individual jeopardise the team’s chances of retaining the Webb Ellis. PDV is a stubborn man, like all Bok coaches. And so he should be, it is a tough job.
But one can be the better man here and rise above it.
10 Aug 2011, 14:41 pm
@Ryan(Ryan)-22:
Whether they read it or not isn’t the issue. It’s the situation you create. A journalists words are powerful. What you write affects the opinion of the common supporter. It’s like a butterfly effect.
10 Aug 2011, 14:42 pm
@grant10(grant10)-26:
Ok we’ll talk on Saturday
10 Aug 2011, 14:43 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-27:
I’m recording all your usernames. That way you can eat humble pie come Saturday.
10 Aug 2011, 14:45 pm
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-31: so long as if your team doesnt win you’ll be here to grab your share of humble pie… it doesnt worry me in the slightest, but you are too confident when you consider your boys are going to be struggling for match fitness..
plus, have they all miraculously overcome their injuries? how rather fiortunate and miraculous…
lets hope they dont injure themselves again, seeing as they wont be used to the intensity…
10 Aug 2011, 14:46 pm
For anyone interested. Springboks are $1.57 favourites for Saturday with NZ TAB.
10 Aug 2011, 14:46 pm
Nee hel Ryan nou het darem n klomp tos gwyt geraak.
10 Aug 2011, 14:47 pm
@KWAGGA ROBERTSE(KWAGGA ROBERTSE)-34: kwyt geraak……aag hel wat maak dit saak?
10 Aug 2011, 14:47 pm
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-31: Don’t bother.
Poppa never eats humble pie.
He chokes on it.
10 Aug 2011, 14:47 pm
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-30: i am in durbs for weekend so forgive my absence….may be back on sunday nite quite late…
10 Aug 2011, 14:49 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-32:
Kiwi is it?
I’m counting on some determination, the fact that we hardly ever lose to Australia on SA soil (last year was the first time in what, 10 years?), and having a genuine fetcher for the first time since 2009 when we beat the All Blacks 3x.
Like I said earlier, watch out for Brussow. But if I’m wrong I’ll be here.
10 Aug 2011, 14:49 pm
@Griqua_warrior(willievz)-36: youre humours improving willie, now if we could get an original line from you it would be funny…
choke on this..
since 1992
SA 13
NZ 31
1 draw..
I know who the real chokers are…
10 Aug 2011, 14:50 pm
@grant10(grant10)-37:
Hehe that’s ok. I’ll just keep an eye out for you.
10 Aug 2011, 14:54 pm
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-38: yeah, 2009, when you had your first team all available and at their peak… they have started down the slippery slope of the other side since then, and when NZ didnt have carter for 2 of the 3 games as well as having to blood a few newbies… somehow that always gets lost that bit…
We heard that in 2010 FDP wasnt there so it wasnt a full Bokke side, but somehow the reverse didnt apply…
I understand though, with that record since 1992 you have to appease yourselves with the smattering of victories you achieve against us… its why so many cheer on the choke, because they know with an average on one win every four games against us that its better if someone else beats us, because as the stats show, you guys dont do it too often…
10 Aug 2011, 14:54 pm
@Griqua_warrior(willievz)-28: Personal vendetta?! Do you know something that I don’t? Did PdV sleep with my missus? Did he call my mother a *****? Did he *spit* dishonour my family name? No, no personal vendetta. He is the national coach of the sport I cover. I have a professional opinion that he is incompetent, not a personal vendetta.
10 Aug 2011, 14:54 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-39:
Besides the point but hey.
10 Aug 2011, 14:57 pm
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-43: did you see how long it took players like Matfield to find their form in this years Super rugby?
so with 8 weeks off they are just going to come out and play cohesively and superbly?
if you believe that then fair enough… I dont..
10 Aug 2011, 14:58 pm
Ja ne…
The problem sometimes with saying the right things, is you are saying it to the wrong people.
10 Aug 2011, 14:59 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-39: And fakall WC to show for the efforts and the ABs were favourites every single tournament…….Heimlich manouvre or will a snotklap do?
10 Aug 2011, 15:01 pm
Did Ryan’s vid clip not say “who do we blame IF things go wrong”? He didn’t say they would go wrong. Just if. So, IF they do, who do we blame? (And, no, Grant10, you don’t have to answer that, we know who you’ll blame).
Ryan’s given his opinion, nothing wrong with that. But it beggars the question, who do we laud IF things go right? Will it be Matfield, FDP & Rassie? Will PDiv get the credit for his “man management”?
And will Ryan offer praise should it be warranted?
10 Aug 2011, 15:01 pm
@Ryan(Ryan)-42:
Ag man you act like a disgruntled supporter.
When is the last time a Springbok coach hasn’t been called incompetent? Your employer Mr. Keohane was head of the ‘let’s fire Jake White’ brigade.
We all know he’s not a good coach, but his support cast and relying on experienced players hasn’t backfired yet.
And if we win I don’t care if he sounds like an idiot in the media.
10 Aug 2011, 15:02 pm
@Ryan(Ryan)-42:
But herein lies the beauty:
If you start talking up someone, they will become it.
You being negative is not helping our cause at all. We are going to the WC with PDV, whether we like it or not, but he is the coach of our national team and needs our full support.
Same with John Smit.
10 Aug 2011, 15:03 pm
@Ryan(Ryan)-42: Vrede Vrede Vrede. What a crock-o-****. All you Keo “journo’s” have had it in for PDV for very long. Discrediting him at every possible occasion, from the start.
10 Aug 2011, 15:04 pm
@KWAGGA ROBERTSE(KWAGGA ROBERTSE)-46: you can have your one extra little yellow cup…of course, IF NZ win it this year, Id imagine Keo will have to close down the site, because youd have nothing to cling to (that LYC is your guys security blanket)
me, Im quite stoked that in 19 years youve won 13 games against us!
thats not even ONE win a year
so yeah, console yourself with that one extra LYC, its done wonders for your rugby winning it twice hasnt it?
10 Aug 2011, 15:05 pm
@pompies2(pompies2)-50: Pompies in all fairness bud, he has brought this kak on himself by just being a complete idiot on more than one occasion.
10 Aug 2011, 15:11 pm
@KWAGGA ROBERTSE(KWAGGA ROBERTSE)-52: To the outsider yes, but has anyone here really been on the inside of PDV’s plans and relationship with the players? How many of them have complained and said he’s an idiot? PDv has always been loyal (almost to a fault) towards his players and always wanted what’s best for this country’s rugby. He has always said the Boks belong to the people and the treatment the Boks have received from the people they represent has been abysmal at times. Their commitment has even been questioned at times, when the players go out and give absolutely everything when they represent the Boks.
10 Aug 2011, 15:14 pm
Poppa69@ # 39
Since 1993 – World Cups : South Africa 2
: NZ 0
CHOKERS!
10 Aug 2011, 15:15 pm
@MG(MG)-54:
Ouch. He’ll probably just choose to ignore that though.
If you can’t win when it really matters…
10 Aug 2011, 15:19 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-51: WC is what its all about. All teams work towards that is’nt it? Our record is ***** agree but hey we peaked when it mattered. Unfortunately cannot see it happening this year……….
10 Aug 2011, 15:20 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-51:
Poppa, dude, you can object ’til you’re blue in the face, but the fact remains, you and your kin crave the LYC. You want it so farking bad, you can taste it. It singes your butt-hairs that you’ve not had it for sooooo long. You farking want it like a teen virgin wants the money shot.
That said–
There’s no denying the ABs have been and are far superior to the Bokke. Hell, pound for pound, they’re probably the best sporting team in the world. They’re the West Indies in the golden era. They are so farking good and have been for so farking long that they go into the WC as overwhelming favourites. And they deserve to win it like no other team in any sporting code ever has.
But that LYC… that thing you want so bad your nutsack sweats… that still shimmers like a chimera before you. And until you win it (and odds are you will this year) you’ll continue to be a mean-spirited little Gollum.
10 Aug 2011, 15:21 pm
@Griqua_warrior(willievz)-36:
@poppa69(poppa69)-39:
four more years of posting pops, four more years….think you can stick around that long?
10 Aug 2011, 15:21 pm
And to make it even worse, we were not there in ’87 and ’91. It could have been 4 – 0.
10 Aug 2011, 15:25 pm
@pompies2(pompies2)-53: Pompies I agree with some of what you say but I have heard from a very reliable source that his relationship with his players was never what it was supposed to be, this was however a year or so ago so things might have changed and as far as his plans go……….. his inefficiencies are shining through as we speak.
Yes we should support whole hartedly and I will come game time but it is frustrating to see our rugby like this and not getting de moer in when you realise it all started with wrong appointments for the job at hand.
10 Aug 2011, 15:26 pm
@Ryan(Ryan)-42: if you write a kak article next week you are getting it chap, you aren’t going to slide one bit!
when your articles are sub-par, incoherent and lack original thought or any substantive rugby nous, as most of them do, we will flay you, you have no place to hide
10 Aug 2011, 15:26 pm
@KWAGGA ROBERTSE(KWAGGA ROBERTSE)-56:
So I’ll throw you into the negative pile (with grant10, poppa69, Ryan Vrede)?
Or you can sit on the fence of course. See what happens Saturday.
10 Aug 2011, 15:27 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-39:
No need to educate me there, Pops.
I know I am second best.
But…I would be very careful in choosing my words before the WC, a competition where your team has a huge mental block, despite your current form and dominance over us.
And, as the de facto best team in the world, you have a lot more to lose than us.
Playing at home, with all that expectation, against the overwhelming underdogs that will give absolutely EVERYTHING at EVERY collision, every ruck, every tackle.
Now, go and buy some tissues, you might just need them.
10 Aug 2011, 15:28 pm
@MG(MG)-54: chokers? bwahahaha is that all youve got, seriously?
man, what has happened to the once mighty Springbok? I remember a time when they would win one for one against us, and truly deserved our respect..
Now, like the NH teams, you all hide behind the “building for the WC” strategy…
must be hard only being excited about rugby for 6 weeks every fourth year…
I do pity you guys…
@we have it on good authority that on september 11, a legend will rise…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-58: of course, because in four more years the head to head stat will probably read something like SA 14- NZ 40… I can live with that…
@Hooker22(Hooker22)-57: no objections here mate… I was of the old generation who knew SA were the old enemy and deserved the high regard NZ rugby held them in….unfortunately, over the last 19 years, I am beginning to understand why the younger NZ generation consider the Aussies our real competition…
and to me thats the biggeast shame of it all..
10 Aug 2011, 15:28 pm
@Hooker22(Hooker22)-57:
10 Aug 2011, 15:29 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-61:
He’s got the easiest job in the world. Just needs to not take his chill pills, read News24 and start writing.
10 Aug 2011, 15:30 pm
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-62: Niks van die aard nie ou maat. Sal my vier bok truie moer toe dra die wereld beker maar soos ek se, kan nie hanteer dat ons so na aan n wereld beker nog so blerrie deurmekaar rond ploeter nie.
10 Aug 2011, 15:30 pm
I must at least give Vrede some credit. He hangs around for the post-posting hiding that he invariably gets.
10 Aug 2011, 15:31 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-64:
Yes. Australia hasn’t won a World Cup since 99, or a Tri Nations since 2001. Since then we’ve won a World Cup and won the Tri Nations twice. And they are better then we are?
Makes no sense to me but okay then.
10 Aug 2011, 15:32 pm
@KWAGGA ROBERTSE(KWAGGA ROBERTSE)-67:
Sorry my Afrikaans is average these days. Are you coming over to NZ for the World Cup then?
10 Aug 2011, 15:34 pm
@KWAGGA ROBERTSE(KWAGGA ROBERTSE)-60: I think this all stems from Hoskins’ quote about PDv not being that PDv not being appointed for rugby reasons alone. Funny, that when we compare PDV’s credentials to Whites,at the time they were appointed, they are pretty much the same.
I think PDV’s biggest failing was not sticking to his plan of enhancing the playing style he ‘d hope to do. The public outcry for immediate results as a way of putting pressure on the “debatable” coaching choice, was enough for PDv to fold under pressure. Funny now that we hear calls for a more expansive, head up style of play. Coincedently, we are seeing this from the AB’s and to a lesser extent from the Aussies. It’s called total rugby.
10 Aug 2011, 15:34 pm
@MG(MG)-59: pray tell MG..
why werent you at those tournaments?
now whose fault was that?
bwahahaha
10 Aug 2011, 15:34 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-68: ja at least unlike that pompous doos of a coward jon cardinelli…
10 Aug 2011, 15:36 pm
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-70: Unfortunately not. Will spend my time enjoying the ruggas with a couple of beers and the rest of the rugby gang at home. My local bottle store knows for a fact he will make budget come WC month
10 Aug 2011, 15:37 pm
@KWAGGA ROBERTSE(KWAGGA ROBERTSE)-67:
And I think the best thing we could’ve done was give these players a bit of a rest. I’m not arguing with Noakes about how rest can make a player feel refreshed.
The solution would be, in the future, for SARU to sign players onto similar contracts that NZRU use for their professionals. Allows them to enforce a draft system, which would mean a team like the Bulls would have to share their ‘not-quite-there’ players rather then let them play Vodacom Cup.
Then we would be able to cap the amount of games chosen Springboks can play in the Super rugby tournament each year. Because if you were putting your body through that every weekend, it’s only a matter of time before you break down. No player should be playing more then 26-odd games a year.
10 Aug 2011, 15:39 pm
@KWAGGA ROBERTSE(KWAGGA ROBERTSE)-74:
Sounds like fun. Tickets are so damn expensive, plus we had to go into a lottery to get any good tickets, so I’m also destined for the couch – or the pub when that likely semi-final comes around (want to see peoples faces if the Boks pull it off). Only got tickets to Fiji vs South Africa which was NZ$65. Nice and cheap.
10 Aug 2011, 15:39 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-64:
can you live with a little trip down memory lane?…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WWo2Ms5Vno
or:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZinygMbHFc
i’ve got a few more lined up…
10 Aug 2011, 15:41 pm
@pompies2(pompies2)-71: hoskins handed PdV a poisoned chalice and pdv has been choking on it’s contents for the past 3 & half years. it hasn’t helped that pdv is the WORST articulate bloke you can find is SA and it’s not the afrikaans to english translation, the man’s thoughts are incoherent from the get!
10 Aug 2011, 15:42 pm
@pompies2(pompies2)-71: I decided to give him a fair chance even after Hoskin’s comments but you hit the nail on the head. He has done very little to take our rugby forward, in fact his infatuation with some players has left us with very little depth at international level in certain positions.
His has failed in what he set out to do up till now……. should he win the WC it will surely be said it is because of his master plan. Lets hope this is the case because I have yet again seen bugger all that convinces me as we stand here now.
10 Aug 2011, 15:43 pm
@we have it on good authority that on september 11, a legend will rise…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-77:
Haha Jake the Muss beat his wife because of that.
10 Aug 2011, 15:44 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-64:
can you live with your team being officially voted the worlds biggest chokers in sport?
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10676933
because i can…
10 Aug 2011, 15:44 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-73:
Don’t sugar coat it mate. tell us how you really feel….
Must say, hanging around to exchange banter with the muppets is asking for trouble, I’m not sure if I’d be brave enough to do it, especially if i had posted some of the shite that they’ve posted over the last couple of months……
10 Aug 2011, 15:44 pm
Poppa69
No pity for us thank you.
In 2004 we won the tri-nations.
In 2007 we won the super 14 and the world cup.
In 2009 we won the super 14, tri-nations and beat the Lions
To me me that is not too shabby. What happens if NZ does not win the RWC this year? I watched a NZ documentary on the world cup a few weeks back, on Super Sport. I think you guys deserve the pitty, grown men crying like babies, shame!
10 Aug 2011, 15:45 pm
@Griqua_warrior(willievz)-28: Yes, people assume players live in bubbles, they would be surprised if some the identities of the blogger’s on this site
10 Aug 2011, 15:46 pm
@we have it on good authority that on september 11, a legend will rise…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-77: cant watch it at work mate…
but keep posting them…. I find it hilarious that you have to go to video to try and “get me”, when all I have to do is mention certain figures and it invokes a reaction…
wonderful stuff…
could you find me youtube videos of the 3 or 4 times your team has had 50 points put on them? I truly would like to reminisce on those times..
10 Aug 2011, 15:46 pm
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-80:
I’m not condoning it before someone freaks out. It’s pictures from a movie included in that first video – called Once Were Warriors.
10 Aug 2011, 15:47 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-78: By all indications it is. But I’d still like like to have a simple rugby discussion with him. You know, the braai rugby chat. Just to understand his rugby philosophy.
10 Aug 2011, 15:47 pm
@Mustard(Mustard)-84:
Right you are, Tendai
10 Aug 2011, 15:48 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-61: hahaha
10 Aug 2011, 15:48 pm
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-80:
our greastest rivals do take losing pretty seriously after all hehe
10 Aug 2011, 15:49 pm
@MG(MG)-83: I see you avoided my initial question?
why werent you at the first two world cups?
whose fault was that?
5 years between 3Ns titles and youre happy with that? NZ has 3 times that many… in fact, in 2009 you guys stpped us from winning the 3Ns five years straight… so well done
what happens if NZ dont win the WC? the sun will still rise the next morning, and the ABs will still continue to win 4 games out of every 5.
what happens if SA DONT win the WC, does that mean the trophy cabinet at SARU will be like the grand canyon? vacuous and full of space…
I think the echo would be just as loud, dont you?
10 Aug 2011, 15:50 pm
Transformation ur da man bro hahaha , I don’t take anything Ryan says seriously, And I agree with everyone here, except grant 10 who in my opinion has prob applied for a job at keo, but anyways agree with the fact that it’s not the right time to be negative one month out from a WC, we have to back the team no matter what now, and Ryan please let us know who u actually do support, knw keo digs da froggies he is always wearing that jacket in his videos
10 Aug 2011, 15:50 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-91:
Then why are you worried about winning the WC?
10 Aug 2011, 15:51 pm
@KWAGGA ROBERTSE(KWAGGA ROBERTSE)-79: I understand your POV. I’m in a similar boat. I’ve been slightly dissapointed in PDv of late. I think he’s given in to the pressures in a way and all his plans have become wasted along his coaching road.
The optimist in me feels like he’s been planning an assault on the RWC all along and the Boks might break out some crazy attacking game, which opponents will scamper to counter, but time constraints might not allow for it.
As it is, the AB’s have pretty much shown their hand for the past couple of years and their opposition had had the same time to dissect and plan effective counters. That nobody hasn’t managed it yet, doesn’t mean anyone can’t .
10 Aug 2011, 15:52 pm
Kankowski and Johnson both released. Spies and Danie passed fit.
Not sure if thats a good thing or a bad thing.
10 Aug 2011, 15:52 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-85:
Oh dear. And the All Blacks have never lost?
Now you’re just **** stirring.
The All Blacks are chokers. Face it. Deal with it. It might help them get in the right frame of mind come this World Cup.
The Boks on the other hand live for the big moments.
Springbok Rugby isn’t perfect. The politics has probably hurt us the most. But we’ve won TWO World Cups since 92. Something we’re all very proud of.
We’re also the reason NZ can afford to pay their players. Without us NZRU would be well and truly screwed. Living in a dream world if you think they could make that type of money without SA in the picture.
10 Aug 2011, 15:54 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-85:
too bad you cant watch them at work. wont bother with the springbok either then, right?
can you read old newspaper clippings at work? i save all the good one’s every four years or so.
but this ones quite recent, just last year in fact….
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10676933
10 Aug 2011, 15:54 pm
@Griqua_warrior(willievz)-88: wrong willie
10 Aug 2011, 15:54 pm
Our loose forwards are going to get their arses handed to them on a platter.
Donkie Danie.
Hop-along Heinrich
Pissie Pierre
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
What a joke
10 Aug 2011, 15:54 pm
@Griqua_warrior(willievz)-93: Im not worried about winning it, so long as my team play to their potential, if they dont win it so be it…
I will still back them and have tremendous pride in them regardless… you guys used to have that with your team, but now its all a celebration of two trophies won 12 years apart… the rest seems inconsequential to you lot and thats your perogative…
10 Aug 2011, 15:55 pm
Nice chatting guys. Have a good one. Tyd vir n bier.
10 Aug 2011, 15:55 pm
Poppa69
We all know why were not there. That was not the point. I would rather have 5 years between tri-nations titles than 24 years and counting between world cups.
10 Aug 2011, 15:56 pm
@Couchcoach(GI POT)-99:
Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
I’ll throw you into the negative pile with a side note. “Couchcoach – Boks loose-forwards will get their arses handed to them on a platter”
Let me know how the humble pie tastes come Sunday.
10 Aug 2011, 15:58 pm
Pdv was never given a chance from the media right from the get go. Doomed to fail in the eyes of the media.
SA rugby media are second only to the English premier league journalist in terms of setting coaches and players up to fail.
Writing them up so early in their careers and adding so much pressure on young ones are ridiculous….they need to grow into their respective roles.
10 Aug 2011, 15:58 pm
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-96: where did I say the ABs have never lost? they lose one game in five, SA alone lose 3 games in 4 against NZ, since 1992… its no wonder you all call us chokers, because if we did have the same number of WCs what COULD you guys yell back?
nothing, nada, zilch, zero..
and you know it!!
clutching to the money angle really is lame… it shows that maybe you do care about the record of 31-13 more than you like to admit…
10 Aug 2011, 15:59 pm
@MG(MG)-102:
Haha. The sad thing is if they don’t win it this year, it’s going to become tougher and tougher for them to win it. Rugby is already in decline over here. If they can’t win it at home, how will they expect to win it away from home, especially with South Africa looking better by the year in terms of depth.
10 Aug 2011, 15:59 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-85:
and this one funnily enough is from just this morning….would you agree with the good doctors views on the subject?…
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby-world-cup-2011/news/article.cfm?c_id=522&objectid=10744183
10 Aug 2011, 16:02 pm
@we have it on good authority that on september 11, a legend will rise…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-107: hang on, let me go find a SA news website to post articles for you
how very lame
why are you relying on Transies cut and paste technique? cant counter an argument yourself? be a man and paste your OWN opinions for a change..
hang on, I’ll wait for your next link..
10 Aug 2011, 16:04 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-105:
If you did the same number of World Cups. But you haven’t.
Of course I care about the record. I think after this World Cup SARU’s long-term goal should be to get the Springboks record back to at least 50% versus the All Blacks.
Your arguments has a lot of if’s and but’s in it.
What is your actual point?
10 Aug 2011, 16:05 pm
@MG(MG)-102: and what say you of 13 measly wins over the ABs in 19 years?
10 Aug 2011, 16:06 pm
Flipping heck ?Vrede. It is like you don’t know normal management structures and the variations. Your claims are so naive the only sane reaction is to laugh.
10 Aug 2011, 16:06 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-108:
but seriously, i actually am quite interested in your views on the last article though in post #107.
is this a topic of debate in nz? otherwise why did this guy just come out of ‘nowhere’ with his two cents worth? i mean this close to the big show to make statements of this sort could be risky.
10 Aug 2011, 16:07 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-64: I think the last 4 years its been alot more like the old days 50/50 results.
10 Aug 2011, 16:08 pm
According to schalk Brits England have a good chance of winning the WC ……. Hahahaha, so glad he ain’t in the squad, shows where his loyalties really lie now
10 Aug 2011, 16:09 pm
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-109: my actual point is that SA rugby have let themselves down by only thinking the WC is important.. obviously you lot disagree and think that the WC is the be all and end all…
thats why you throw around the chokers tag, all the while ignoring the anamoly of the head to head stats, dismissing them as unimportant if you win the WC…
mediocrity at its finest…
10 Aug 2011, 16:10 pm
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-103:
Any time dude, any time. Pull the other one while you’re at it.
The Aussies are in serious trouble if Higgenbotham, Pocock and Elsom cannot outplay Spies, Danie and Brussouw. Serious trouble I tell you.
Spies is more scared of contact than Malema is for a grade 10 exam paper
Danie Roussouw is one of the world’s best locks, but at 34 in the shade he is not a modern loose forward.
Brussouw has not played a match in anger for nearly two years and is up against one of the best in Pocock.
I would target this area if I were Deans. Move the ball quickly to at least 13 before I make contact, pick and drive with my loose forwards who will be first to the ruck and then take it wide again. Spies always goes in the direction where the contact is less likely to take place and Danie will be groping in the fresh air when the quick men get one on one opportunities against him.
Watch this space dude – one eyed, brainless, sentimental supporters always see realists who can think for themselves as being negative. I’m used to it by now, but the former have sampled far more humble pie than the latter on this forum – that I can guarantee you
10 Aug 2011, 16:11 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-115:
You call the Springboks chokers. Yet when it comes down to the important games we haven’t choked? The All Blacks have!
Do you know what a choker is?
10 Aug 2011, 16:13 pm
@we have it on good authority that on september 11, a legend will rise…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-112: I read that article earlier today actually, he makes some interesting points… perhaps hes trying to strum up business for himself also?
people can analyse anything long enough and come up with a reasonable theory, explanation etc….
The legacy of the AB jersey means that anxiety and pressure are there for every game, so its nothing new….
10 Aug 2011, 16:15 pm
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-117: yes I do..
a choker is someone who has to sit behind one extra trophy, while completely disregarding the abysmal record of your team against the “chokers” when truth be told in 4 tournys youve only knocked us out of one… (the 3rd/4th playoff you can count if you want, but both teams were out of the WC when that game started) so continue to celebrate the chievements of Aus and france, it really does add value and impetus to your choker calls…
much like the steamtrain that the head to head results are becoming…
10 Aug 2011, 16:16 pm
Poppa69
Look, your team has had the better of us in this period that you are referring to, and I won’t deny it. The All Blacks are a very good team, I have no problem saying that either. But, there are many cyclists that can win day to day races, and only a select few that can win the tour de france. Same here. Your good team can win day to day test matches and yearly tournaments, but the big one keeps elluding you. We are not the most constant team in the world of rugby, you are, but if we can somehow manage to retain it this year, that view might also change a bit.
10 Aug 2011, 16:17 pm
@Hooker22(Hooker22)-47: Yes he will.
10 Aug 2011, 16:17 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-115:
Don’t worry Poppa – this year you will set the record straight.
10 Aug 2011, 16:18 pm
@Couchcoach(GI POT)-116:
I really do think Brussow is the best openside in the world. He really is that good. He does things Pocock could only dream of. And he’ll show it Saturday. This is of course my own opinion. We’ll have to wait and see what happens.
I’m not a big fan of Danie at blindside either. Don’t think he’s much of a loose-forward, but I think he can do a job there on Saturday. Wouldn’t be surprised if Deysel got a start though considering Danie has been out injured.
As for Spies. Made the 3rd most tackles at the Bulls behind Olivier & Matfield. Rather look at his strengths and what he can bring to the Springboks game with ball in hand, rather then where we might struggle because of him.
10 Aug 2011, 16:18 pm
@seabiscuit(seabiscuit)-114: I don’t see the issue? there are a number of teams which have a good chance of winning.
I found that interview very interesting, had no idea South African fans (or is it just WP?) were so fanatical.: http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-sport/interviews/article-23976705-england-can-win-the-rugby-world-cup-says-schalk-brits.do
‘What heightens this pleasure is that, in London, he can get lost in the crowd. Such anonymity would be impossible in his native South Africa.
Brits, who went back to play for Stormers during the close season, explains: “Here I can go to dinner with my wife and nobody knows who I am. In South Africa I can’t. If you go for lunch or dinner, people greet you.
“This is going to sound rude but there were five fans wanting me to sign shirts after the practice session here. Back home there would be 5,000. You can’t stand there for six hours so you sign as many as you can. They are so fanatical, they stop the car. So you literally have to lie on the back seat and hide as the car drives away. I do not miss that.”‘
10 Aug 2011, 16:18 pm
@pompies2(pompies2)-53: PdV was hired as a rugby coach first and foremost, not a PR specialist. Drop that line of reasoning.
10 Aug 2011, 16:19 pm
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-96: save you breath mate, poppa is trolling, as soon as a discussion doesn’t involve talking about the all blacks, he gets lost hence he comes here and latches on to anything anyone says about the springbok’s chances at the world cup. you see he is a victim of what in the field of psychology is known as “cyber molestation”
he had a “breakthrough” or epiphany last month and in what can be described as a drug-induced moment of clarity he posted this “So I offer a heartfelt, sincere and unconditional apology for anything Ive ever said that has been offensive or worse. It was only ever to rile and elicit reaction.
even though he admits to having been molested on this blog and that it changes him, he can’t stay away and he can’t stop talking kak, talk about dementia
10 Aug 2011, 16:19 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-119:
Uh I’m not even going to read that rubbish.
A choker is someone that’s been hyped up as favourites, but then couldn’t deliver. The All Blacks are favorites every World Cup, yet they CHOKE every time.
The Boks can’t be chokers if they aren’t favourties.
10 Aug 2011, 16:20 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-105: Poppa , I disagree with you , 31-13 is not a great stat but worse is not having won the WC in 6 attempts , the last time you guys won the Cup was 24 years ago and SA rugby was not even present.
Say what you want , for a team that many claims to be so dominant over the decades a zero return on WC wins in 24 years in non negotiable , especially if you consider that SA won the cup 2 times in the last 16 years then it puts it in even more perspective.
Then if you further analyse matters you will see that in the beginning SA rugby really struggled to reclaim our position in the World rugby standings , we struggled at national and provincial level with our Super teams making zero progress except for teh odd semi’s etc etc , however recently that trend came to grinding halt and we even hosted a all South African Final twice in the last few seasons.
This boks were also much more successful from 2007 onwards , we even won away from SA on more than one occasion , a feat we only managed once before ! So jaa your stats don’t paint a good pic and its a lot due to our stupidness and arrogance as well but things are changing as seen in recent years.
Oh and the fact we wont the WC twice in four attempts while you guys only managed to do it once in 7.
10 Aug 2011, 16:21 pm
I fail to understand why people have an issue with Ryan, he’s merely plagiarised my thoughts about Rassie that’s all and good for him! The Rustenberg 21 have had 2 months rest, they won’t be sharp on Saturday, and they will get their asses handed to them on a greasy platter, period! Everyone on this site knows it.
10 Aug 2011, 16:22 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-126:
Haha love it. Probably got blocked from thesilverfern for talking trash.
10 Aug 2011, 16:22 pm
@sparticus(sparticus)-113:
well, i’ll qualify that with ‘only’ if we win the next 2 games against them for the year, up to and including the semi knockout. that would bring it bang up to 50/50 for the preceding four year period.
still not good enough but getting better at least…
10 Aug 2011, 16:23 pm
@mpundulu(mpundulu)-129:
Because we all care about your thoughts.
Moron.
10 Aug 2011, 16:26 pm
@Ryan(Ryan)-121:
Well then start writing an apology to pal! Because Boks are gonna win! We don’t easily lose to Australia at home.
10 Aug 2011, 16:30 pm
@mpundulu(mpundulu)-129:
the plan is not to win these games, guy. its about getting a good run out, getting the measure of themselves, working on combo’s and tweaking a few things…winning would just be a bonus…
10 Aug 2011, 16:30 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-126: wow Trans, you still smarting from taking the bait yesterday I see..
Who admitted to being “molested” on this blog Trans? I certainly didnt… you continue to spout of about KKK and Whatever “cyber molesting” me..
bwahaha what a laugh…
like Ive said so many times, Im man enough to post my own opinions and back them up, you havent got the courage to post your own words, you sit and try and discredit others by going through thousands of posts..
life must be such a drag for you trans, do try thinking, it really is important..
now, back to the kennel lap dog…
10 Aug 2011, 16:31 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-68: Have you given me the hiding you speak of? Had transformation, who unfailingly gets personal? Where is this hiding you speak of because I certainly don’t feel like I’ve ever gotten a hiding, certainly not from you. But here’s your chance, beat me bad boy. Better make it good now, everybody is expecting big things from you.
10 Aug 2011, 16:33 pm
@we have it on good authority that on september 11, a legend will rise…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-134: That explanation makes sense and is reasonable.
10 Aug 2011, 16:34 pm
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-127: @sparticus(sparticus)-128:
there you go, proof that the WC is the only important thing to you guys…
what do you do in the intervening years, watch soccer? so things like camp staaldrad and the like are all ok because youre “building for the WC”?
cool, to me it highlights how much the SA pysche is hurting , and the only solace they find is in a knock out tournament…
Like I said, if you guys can live with it so be it… me, Id be demanding more from my union, especially if you EVER want to regain your place alongside us as the best team in the world…
10 Aug 2011, 16:35 pm
@Ryan(Ryan)-136:
Not too clever either. He meant the way everybody criticises your posts. And that you stick around to reply.
No reason to challenge him to a fight.
10 Aug 2011, 16:36 pm
Saffas saying winning would just be a bonus..
oh my, I wonder what players the likes of Frik Du Preez think of statements like that..
have you guys serously become that blase’ about your rugby?
sad sad sad days…
10 Aug 2011, 16:36 pm
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-133: Who is this pal you say I must write an apology TO? Do you mean TOO? Now write an apology TO me for your spelling. And while you’re at it, here’s the dunce hat, now go and sit in the naughty corner for a time out.
10 Aug 2011, 16:37 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-138:
Where do I say I only care about the World Cup? I’d love to see the Springboks win every single game, but that doesn’t happen.
I was pointing out what a choker is. You obviously still don’t understand. Let me know if you do. Then I might be interested in continuing this conversation.
10 Aug 2011, 16:37 pm
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-132: My dear boy, you are not with us in the present, the Boks just won’t have scope on saturday. The Wallabies will play a very fast game against guys who are not very mobile and lack match fitness, it’ll be a real struggle for the Boks especially if they persist with Heynecke Meyer’s kick and hope approach as those Aussie will run it back with interest.
10 Aug 2011, 16:39 pm
@Ryan(Ryan)-141:
Not even going to bother with this. You’re behaving like a child.
10 Aug 2011, 16:39 pm
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-133:
I’m not so sure – if we were playing Australia at Loftus or Ellis, then I’d back the Boks – but I reckon at the Shark Tank it’s currently even money, Australia might even be slight favourites.
10 Aug 2011, 16:40 pm
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-142:
Yeah, choking is losing to a team like Fiji, or Samoa as Aussie did..
losing to France, Aussie and SA isnt choking, because we all know those teams can beat each other in a one off situation…
so tell me, NZ losing to any of those 3 teams is a CHOKE is it?
that says a lot about how you rate the respective qualities of those 3 teams then..
10 Aug 2011, 16:40 pm
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-139: Are you daft my friend? You imply I challenged him to a physical fight, when in fact I asked him to give me the written beating he implies in his post. Good Lord, I think you better quit before you embarrass yourself any more.
10 Aug 2011, 16:41 pm
@mpundulu(mpundulu)-143:
We’ll see on Saturday. None of us can be right or wrong until then unfortunately.
10 Aug 2011, 16:42 pm
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-144: Shoot! And I was just warming up.
10 Aug 2011, 16:42 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-64: I see you have forgotten the recent 3-0 whitewash in 2009.
10 Aug 2011, 16:42 pm
@Ryan(Ryan)-147:
Could’ve been perceived in a different way. But I’ll take your word for it.
10 Aug 2011, 16:43 pm
@Ryan(Ryan)-147: Hendrik is done, this is all too much for him, especially that he also has to focus on spelling as well.
10 Aug 2011, 16:43 pm
@mpundulu(mpundulu)-129: molo mfondini.
izolo bendingaxabenanga nawe, bendizamanje ukusekela lantetho bendiyibekile ukuba uWayne Smith nguye umqeqeshi weZimnyama Zodwa we-defence.
bendingalwanga nam chap
10 Aug 2011, 16:44 pm
@XhosaKid(XhosaKid)-150: 2010 whitewash? and the impending 2011 whitewash.
10 Aug 2011, 16:45 pm
@Ryan(Ryan)-149:
Haha well it’s been fun. But I don’t argue with someone off topic. Telling me to go sit in a naughty corner because I said you should start writing that article saying you were wrong about the Springboks after they win on Saturday. Seems a bit left field.
10 Aug 2011, 16:45 pm
@XhosaKid(XhosaKid)-150: the one that was overturned in 2010? how have I forgotten it? it is included in the 13 wins in 19 years, did you not read back that far?
so if you take those 3 wins out of the equation, it means 10 wins in 17 years… OMG, you should have shutup…
10 Aug 2011, 16:46 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-153: Asali bhuti nam ndinawe mhlekazi! Maziye ezimnyama kwedini!
10 Aug 2011, 16:47 pm
@mpundulu(mpundulu)-152:
Ja I so dum. I take myy BA and go and sit there far in da noughty corna.
10 Aug 2011, 16:49 pm
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-158: BA from where? and don’t lie…..
10 Aug 2011, 16:50 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-135: what bait? as soon as you got found out with your “banana skin theory” is became bait?
wasn’t it you who posted on the same thread yesterday “Ive been talking rugby, nice of you to come and spoil the thread
in your first reply to me asking you to elaborate on the “banana skin theory”?
bwahahahahaha don’t be a p0es mate, take your beatings like a man. you got found out
pretending it was bait won’t change it.
10 Aug 2011, 16:50 pm
@mpundulu(mpundulu)-159:
Victoria Wellington. Why?
10 Aug 2011, 16:51 pm
What’s up with the insults?
I thought this is a rugby website? You know, where people present divergent ideas and opinions…
10 Aug 2011, 16:52 pm
@mpundulu(mpundulu)-159:
I wasn’t saying I’m intellegent. Merely pointing out I’m not intelectually challenged. Luckily I’m allowed an opinion. And I’m mature enough not to call you every name under the sun.
10 Aug 2011, 16:52 pm
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-161: Agricultural College? I’m trying to upgrade my view of you.
10 Aug 2011, 16:55 pm
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-163: WP Till I Die is quite correct, this is a rugby site and we should not be calling people morons. Do you agree?
10 Aug 2011, 16:55 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-160: fact is, yourself, rangerman and many others came straight at me with insults, all because I suggested it was possible that Wales could beat you in the first game at the WC…
and I still maintain it is a banana skin game, again, MY OPINION..
but that seems to have struck a raw nerve with you Trans, Id certainly like to know your opinion on the subject, you still havent posted one, or theorised WHY Wales WONT win…
instead all youve done is try to show me up, how very manly and tough of you….
waytogochampion, the new Madiba… excellent skills mate… just really excellent …
10 Aug 2011, 16:55 pm
@Ryan(Ryan)-136: calm down boytjie…
10 Aug 2011, 16:58 pm
@mpundulu(mpundulu)-165:
A reaction to your slurs earlier in the day.
If it had been unprovoked I would apologise.
10 Aug 2011, 16:59 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-167: Chap do you think Rassie would possibly have changed the way the Boks will play on Saturday? I think we could see the “Aura” side-stepping his way to a 80 metre try, ne?
10 Aug 2011, 17:00 pm
@WP Till I Die(WP-Forever)-162: the issue starts as soon as one’s “divergent opinion” is challenged, then the insults fly
10 Aug 2011, 17:01 pm
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-168: I think you are possibly a nice guy, and I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt. Hendrik let’s play nice, yes?
10 Aug 2011, 17:03 pm
@ Ryan, you’re going to mock people because of spelling? I didn’t know this was school? If it is, then you don’t qualify as the teacher mate. Stick to or too (whichever floats your boat) the rugby mate. Your job is to or too (whichever floats your boat again) be controversial and your doing a fine job at that, don’t take the criticism personally
10 Aug 2011, 17:05 pm
@mpundulu(mpundulu)-171:
Meh it’s all a bit of fun. If I couldn’t have big rugby debates in my spare time, then I’d surely die of boredom.
I don’t hold grudges against anyone on here. Except maybe Vrede (sick of this negative ****).
10 Aug 2011, 17:06 pm
@RugbyGuru_0_(RugbyGuru_0_)-172:
Would’ve thought Keohane gave him a lesson in not throwing his toys out of the cot. LOL
10 Aug 2011, 17:09 pm
@mpundulu(mpundulu)-169: no rassie won’t/can’t change the way the boks play in a month or so, what he can possibly do is breakdown the opposition’s gameplan & weaknesses suggest more effective ways of exploiting them, within the boks’ existing arsenal.
it’s too late to make big changes now, the only way is to tweak and maximise the existing potential. remember pdv tried to get the boks to play differently in 2008 and whatever he has in mind clearly got lost in translation and it’s not as if this was robbie deans molding a bunch of Test rookies, this was a publicly branded “transformation coach” meddling with the world cup winning core group of players.
if rassie is as clever, astute and sharp as he is made out to be, he will know – as TJ alluded about Wayne Smith – that this is not the time to “tinker” too MUCH with the team, but shore up the existing barricades and sharpen the bows…
10 Aug 2011, 17:12 pm
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-173: Well good! The boks don’t have a hope in hell saturday. I’d give them a better chance against the ABs but even if they are all match fit, it’ll be a real struggle to beat the Blacks.
10 Aug 2011, 17:12 pm
@Ryan(Ryan)-136: Grow up kid.
10 Aug 2011, 17:14 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-166: FACT is you tried to justify your “banana skin theory” and when you saw the futility in continuing you abandoned it and tagged it as bait…have a backbone charlie.
yesterday wasn’t the 1st time you’d been preaching your banana skin theory, in fact before i got on to that thread you were stupidly trying to explain it to Yetirat bwahahahaha now all of a sudden, “it was bait”
pathetic, even for ‘damaged” goods like you
10 Aug 2011, 17:15 pm
@mpundulu(mpundulu)-176:
Hehe like I said earlier, I’ll have the humble pie ready. Hopefully the Boks pull it off otherwise I’ll be the one eating it.
But I’ve got a quiet confidence about this game. Even all these players I keep hearing were washed out – they were still part of teams that either reached the semi-finals or came very close (the Bulls) in the Super 15.
Not at their peak earlier in the season. But what better then a rest to clear body and mind.
10 Aug 2011, 17:18 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-175: I understand Wayne Smith’s point as the ABs have been dominant for sometime so therefore therefore they only need to provide some adjustments to enhance their overall game. The Boks on the other hand are in need of a surprise plan, they can’t go to the world cup with Heynecke Meyer’s plan tweaked by Rassie, they need a lot more.
10 Aug 2011, 17:19 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-166: okay so the “theory” was not bait, now it is BACK to being your OPINION??
bwahahahaha your vacillations are quite amusing.
10 Aug 2011, 17:19 pm
If a newspaper like Die Son ever came in Video format , these videos would fit right in.
No Ryan , you are not a cheerleader , more like a funeral parlor that can’t wait to see the Boks fail.
There’s enough good about this team. Enough for me to be optimistic about our chances ,lighten the f*ck up
10 Aug 2011, 17:20 pm
Don’t eat the yellow snow
10 Aug 2011, 17:22 pm
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-179: Mate, I think these guys just won’t be up to the pace, not to mention not having the skills set to challenge the Aussies and the ABs. However, if the Boks pull a Houdini I will be speechless and accept all acrimony coming my way! Also Dodgy Dingo Deans must resign from his post forthwith.
10 Aug 2011, 17:23 pm
Hi there racists
10 Aug 2011, 17:26 pm
@ Sheriff(Sheriff), nice entrance but I think you’re on the wrong site sherriff! Hehe
10 Aug 2011, 17:26 pm
Jake White prior to 2007 World Cup.
” Basic , error free rugby will have more of an effect than razzle dazzle. ”
Same goes for England’s approach in 2003.
World Cup is not about bonus points for 4 tries , its about WINNING.
10 Aug 2011, 17:27 pm
@mpundulu(mpundulu)-180: i don’t know chap, that is my view of the situation. knowing how insular some of those boks can be, i really don’t think they’ll be up to an overhaul of the gameplan, tweaks yes, but drastic changes nah.
10 Aug 2011, 17:28 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-178: what futility, you just couldnt handle the fact that I think Wales can beat the super duper , fantastical first team Bokkes who in all probability will lose their two warm up games before facing Wales…
it was always my opinion Trans, and still is… the fact youve been chasing me about it says more about you than it ever does about me
I derive great pleasure in the fact you spend copious amounts of time having to discredit me for having an opinion…
this from a guy who when his own opinion gets shown up runs for the hills… bravo…
as for damaged, didnt the B team bokkes get right royally “damaged” the past two weekends, cant wait for the A team to suffer the same fate… man I’m going to laugh at you so hard, but then I am already laughing at you..someone who gets his sense of power from a rugby blog???? classic….
keep showing me whose baaass though aye
10 Aug 2011, 17:28 pm
@wp_boytjie(wp_boytjie)-187: Then the boks have a lot to work on before the WC.
10 Aug 2011, 17:30 pm
At times it seems blokes like Ryan and keo live in a world of conspiracy, paranoia and the like.
What is this reference to ‘puppet masters’?
A healthy way to look at it could have been to say that Du Preez and Matfield and others (Jean, etc) are the most experienced team members and having won it before know something about what is effective in these type of situations.
10 Aug 2011, 17:30 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-185: hey lawman, who you calling rasists?
10 Aug 2011, 17:31 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-188: You’re right to do an overhaul you need the type of players who have the versatility and skills to execute the plan, and the boks don’t have those skills, nor any coach in South Africa who could come up with that plan.
10 Aug 2011, 17:32 pm
@MG(MG)-83: “I think you guys deserve the pitty, grown men crying like babies, shame!”
No, it is not a shame. That’s why I am not laughing at, for example, John Smit crying on the pitch in Soweto.
10 Aug 2011, 17:32 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-191: They are paranoid.
They go after PdV for calling in consultants and yet say nothing when Meyer did the same at the Bulls.
Consistency is not their strong point.
10 Aug 2011, 17:33 pm
@mpundulu(mpundulu)-193: Meyer can provided he has the right assistants and team around him. He builds his teams according to the strengths he believes are in a province.
I hope he is appointed post-WC.
10 Aug 2011, 17:36 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-189: nah poops, you’re the one who bases your character on exchanges on this forum. i am the same transformation that logged on here for the 1st time some years back BUT you, my friend confessed to being altered by this place, how fragile
having your “true nature” altered by an anonymous rugby blog tl tl tl
10 Aug 2011, 17:37 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-192:
keo.co.za may as well have been racist.co.za
RWC approaching and with a lucrative keo contract I will be making my appearance here a bit more often
Have you secured a ticket for next week’s game?
10 Aug 2011, 17:40 pm
@Nils(Nils)-194:
I understand why Smittie would be tempted to cry; the reality is this: he is not used to losing
Reflect on that.
10 Aug 2011, 17:41 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-197: Not only that but he returns for more like an addict. I feel sorry for Poppa.
10 Aug 2011, 17:42 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-197:
Pops – you guys are the outright favourites
Now handle the pressure that goes with it
10 Aug 2011, 17:43 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-197: do I, and you know this how? because I said it had changed my character?
bwahahaha
I see you are going to post it every day I am on here, which is cool… it makes you feel better by being able to do it Im only too happen to give you the glory mate..
well done..
you got me good time
again, well done
be proud Trans, youve shown everyone how weak I am, on a blog.. bwahahaha
congratulations mate, I bow down to your superiority, too your awesomeness…
I will endeavour to be as cool as you..
thank you baas
I appreciate it baas
you are too kind baas…
thank you for correcting the error of my ways…
you should be knighted baas..
again, well done mate… you can hold your head high on this blog from now on, because you got me a good un..
well done mate, just cant give you enough platitudes, seriously, were you born this awesome?
10 Aug 2011, 17:45 pm
For those who have a soft spot for history or historical facts: 2 key things have changed here on keo:
1. KeoTV launched which ended speculation about Ryan in particular; big up to the guy for stepping up
2. Dawn now blogs after 17h00 as well; does she work night shift now or did she finally get a dial-up connection
10 Aug 2011, 17:46 pm
@ poppa69(poppa69), hahahaha! Trans will be printing your last post and frame it! Hahaha
10 Aug 2011, 17:48 pm
Good grief
10 Aug 2011, 17:48 pm
Vrede you chop – why no mention of Plod in your tv show? He should and will be the first to be shot after Divvy. Why blame Rassie who has just recently joined the circus?
10 Aug 2011, 17:48 pm
@mpundulu(mpundulu)-193: exactly, now you’re seeing my point…GH and them, got Gordom Tjietins to drill the All Blacks with his Sevens skills and guys like Cowan came out lauding how the drills exposed them to playing to space and finding holes rather than charging at opposition players. the all blacks have the skills sets to do all of that…
if pdv called paul treu do you reckon francois steyn would be open to being told what to do
10 Aug 2011, 17:48 pm
@ Sheriff(Sheriff), I think dawn has a blackberry, free internet anytime! Hahaha
10 Aug 2011, 17:51 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-202: you see what i’ve done? i’ve drawn you from talking kak about the boks to you being childishly sarcastic towards me
cheers poops
gym calls
10 Aug 2011, 17:53 pm
@Michael(mikeybrass)-196: Let’s very much hope not! The Boks have been following his game plan for a number of years now, and it’s just been a regression.
10 Aug 2011, 17:54 pm
@Couchcoach(GI POT)-116:
Extremely difficult to argue with that… big pressure here in Aus to start Higginbotham… so I reckon Mcalman will be given a rest, Scott to replace him… and Radike Samo off the bench (or more worryingly 5/2 split again and 5 loosies in the 22)…
Either way they’re big, fast and have all the skills… far more balanced than the combo’s the Boks can come up with out of Spies, Danie, Deysel (and Brussouw imo will be on the bench surely)…
I agree on Danie… unfortuntely Snor has stated he is Smith’s replacement should he come right…
Burger, Alberts and Smith sorely missed at the moment…
10 Aug 2011, 17:55 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-205:
Daai Harry is ‘n regte brag-gat klong
Staan daar met ‘n trophy op sy profile pic
10 Aug 2011, 17:56 pm
Why all the concern about it being too late for the returning Boks to be ready for the RWC. England,Ireland and Wales are also only playing 2 warm up matches after a long layoff.
10 Aug 2011, 17:57 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-209:
You are going to the gym for the wrong reasons
10 Aug 2011, 17:58 pm
oh hell…..
danie and spies in the loose trio…better pray brussow and bissy starts…..
danie as a loosie…..add plod…add spies….minus brussel sprout = huge ka k for boks…..
slow…slow…slow….
eina!!!!!!
10 Aug 2011, 18:01 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-207: Steyn is a globally accepted chop no doubt. Paul Treu would actually do wonders with the Bok backline but alas, the Boks would probably ask Meyer to guide them, a real pity. However, you are quite right!
10 Aug 2011, 18:01 pm
@ grant10(grant10), spies started as a wing so he isn’t slow. He’s fast but not physical enough for a 8th man.
10 Aug 2011, 18:02 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-212:
What trophy?
10 Aug 2011, 18:07 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-218:
kyk daar op gesig-boek
unlikely that he won it himself, but he wanted to create that optical illusion
10 Aug 2011, 18:07 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-209: must have been your awesomeness shining through Trans, hope theyre able to dim the lights at the gym, how will everyone else feel once you outshine them..
when you get a chance, can you PLEASE post why my divergent opinion (which seems to have really got under your skin) has absolutely no chance of happening… some points about rugby would really go some way to heloing me understand that Wales could never pull off an upset… Thanks in advance..
if you could do that baas I would really appreciate it… two threads now and you havent provided one argument against my divergent opinion… eish..
10 Aug 2011, 18:08 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-199: “he is not used to losing”
This is something worth of the Award “The Joke of the year” really. PDV is in serious trouble now.
10 Aug 2011, 18:09 pm
@David(David)-213: but theyre not tired after a long Super rugby season…
10 Aug 2011, 18:10 pm
@RugbyGuru_0_(RugbyGuru_0_)-217: spies is very quick……except he runs out of the way…
10 Aug 2011, 18:11 pm
@Nils(Nils)-221:
Nils
South Africans are winners.
You know it. I know it, so what more is there to say?
It’s just the way we are …
10 Aug 2011, 18:12 pm
matfields influence?
Spies and Danie?
What next Vic, M Steyn at 10?
10 Aug 2011, 18:13 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-222: The poms think it gives them, the rooineks, an advantage. Stirrer.
10 Aug 2011, 18:14 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-224: No doubt, you are winners, it’s purely scoreboard’s fault.
You should seriously consider role in the sitcoms. Pure talent.
10 Aug 2011, 18:15 pm
@mpundulu(mpundulu)-210: Meyer was the forwards coach when the Stomers played their expansive rugby in 1999. Meyer will do what is needed with the Boks, of that I am certain. It’s time to appoint experienced coaches again.
10 Aug 2011, 18:18 pm
@Nils(Nils)-227: yep, comdey central at its finest..
PDV should be careful, seems Sheriff wants the top clowns crown..
Id say advantage Sheriff too at this very moment, only because of the modesty with which he proclaims SA’s as winners..
10 Aug 2011, 18:20 pm
Looks like the FA cup
10 Aug 2011, 18:22 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-229: PDV has THE VOICE. Even Mr. Bean will trouble to trump that.
10 Aug 2011, 18:22 pm
@Michael(mikeybrass)-228: It’s important that we differentiate between an experienced coach and a good coach with experience. I’m not certain Heynecke Meyer is the answer, I first want to see him successfully amend the Bulls gameplan into a winning formula, he took a significant amount of years for him lift the Bulls from bottom in Super rugby, one could juxtapose him to Deans to a smaller extent Deans was a very successful super rugby coach but has really struggled with the Wallabies. I am not convinced that Meyer will have the right ideas to take the Boks forward, I think he’ll go back to the laager and employ a strategy that is solely on traditional Bok strengths, the Boks in that type of environment will not evolve and grow. We will just get more of the same.
10 Aug 2011, 18:24 pm
@Nils(Nils)-231:
now now Nils, no making fun of oom Piet..
he has a SA voice, so can we assume they ALL speak that way?
10 Aug 2011, 18:26 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-233: No, he is a special one without peers. Because he uses his voice to bring out verbal pearls. 2 in one.
Nobody beats him.
10 Aug 2011, 18:28 pm
@Nils(Nils)-234: Im not sure on that Nils, some of the comments on this blog are right up there with Snors classics..
why, I had a SA not too long ago tell me that SA could put 3 teams out on the same day, play NZ, Aus and France and WIN all 3 games..
right then I knew PDV had been usurped, however briefly…
10 Aug 2011, 18:28 pm
Guys
This winner has to go now.
Cheers losers
10 Aug 2011, 18:29 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-236: Go and sin no more, winner.
10 Aug 2011, 18:31 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-233:
No we don’t all speak that way
10 Aug 2011, 18:31 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-235: Of course, it is true. Firstly, if you team 45 men vs 15, you should win as long as you do not trample own men in the heap. And secondly, he won all games – just forgot to inform the scoreboard, who, as we know, is plain stupid and does not know who the real daddys are.
10 Aug 2011, 18:41 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-238: so not all SA’s have a SA accent?
@Nils(Nils)-239:
Id imagine it would be the refs fault if they didnt achieve the win
10 Aug 2011, 18:44 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-240:
No we don’t
10 Aug 2011, 18:45 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-240: 1) They usually do have an unique accent but only PDV has THE VOICE. Nothing wrong with the accent itself, mind you. We almost all have it when speaking in different language. My Baltic accent too may sound funny, btw.
Refs fault is by default. It’s not worth even mentioning.
10 Aug 2011, 18:48 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-240: Plus, Kiwis sound funny as well – at least for me as a foreigner. I think they have something common with SA accent – mild sounds, so to speak unlike rather dry English, totally amusing Welsh/Scottish or “potatoes-in-the-mouth” Yankees.
10 Aug 2011, 18:51 pm
@Nils(Nils)-242: @Dawn(Dawn)-241: I dont mind the SA accent at all… my mate does an imitation one, very funny…
its a very distinctive accent, can pick it a mile away…
10 Aug 2011, 18:52 pm
@Nils(Nils)-243: yep, kiwis do have a funny accent… I never thought so until I came to Aussie, then I heard my cousins and realised how much of an accent we have…
theyre all better than the Aussie accent though…
10 Aug 2011, 18:54 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-244: Hehe, so it’s yours.
Alright, cheers and take care, see you and other folks next time.
10 Aug 2011, 18:55 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-244:
Seeing accents are different which one does he do that is so hilarious
10 Aug 2011, 18:55 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-245: I still enjoy the pearl “from Riga today” pronounced as “from Riga to die” the Aussie way,
10 Aug 2011, 18:55 pm
@Nils(Nils)-246: cheers…
10 Aug 2011, 18:59 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-247: a SA accent of course, the Hugh Bladen type of SA accent…
10 Aug 2011, 19:01 pm
Boy these Aussies are talking up the Boks… Beale praising Frankie Steyn, Moore lauding our glorious skipper Smit… coating them nicely with honey.
Don’t fall for it boys, you have A LOT to prove no matter what the opposition says.
10 Aug 2011, 19:07 pm
@Ryan(Ryan)-136: @Ryan(Ryan)-136: @hendrikp(hendrikp)-139: Hendrik said it perfectly. Each time you write an article the bloggers descend on it like a pack of rabid wolves. So yes you take a beating. Whether you care to admit it or not. And then you think that by trying to be argumentative you strengthen your case as the voice of authority when in fact you descend to the level of the lowest common denominator. Not a very good way to establish credibility.
And just in case you missed it, I was attempting to pay you as much of a compliment as I’m likely to, by implying that you had the b alls to stick around to argue with the masses. Unlike some of the other posters. Thing is, you can’t have it both ways. You can’t roll up your sleeves and wade into the street fight that is Keo most days and then try and be the voice of credibility. This place drags you down to the level that makes this impossible. I know I’m being redundant here but it’s for emphasis.
Sigh. You give them an arm…..
10 Aug 2011, 19:13 pm
Where the fook is eMalahleni?
I’m reading that Butch James last played a test against Italy in eMalahleni… eish I can’t keep up with all these continual name changes…
10 Aug 2011, 19:19 pm
@ wooden spoon(wooden spoon), Witbank?
10 Aug 2011, 19:24 pm
Pops Hugh Bladen does not epitomise the SA accent
10 Aug 2011, 19:25 pm
@RugbyGuru_0_(RugbyGuru_0_)-254: I wonder why it was felt necessary to change the name “Witbank”? I see the word means “place of coal” so it’s unlikely to have been a word in existence or a human settlement before the D*tchmen created the town in 1890.
10 Aug 2011, 19:32 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-256:
Was probably called that before Dtchmen came
10 Aug 2011, 19:32 pm
only the du*tchmen discovered coal apparently
even though coal has a vernacular name that is not derived from afrikaans or any european based language. Yes, nobody settled there before the dutch 
10 Aug 2011, 19:33 pm
@ wooden spoon(wooden spoon), I think its got something to do with the word ‘wit’ in witbank. Haha ja name changes doesn’t make much sense but its been on the down low for a while, since the whole tswane \ pretoria debacle
10 Aug 2011, 19:34 pm
Am disappointed in Pops ignorance to think Bladen represents SA accents
10 Aug 2011, 19:36 pm
@ Dawn(Dawn), you care what poops say and think?
10 Aug 2011, 19:38 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-258: were the locals aware of coal before Europeans arrived?
10 Aug 2011, 19:39 pm
were there even locals in the area?
10 Aug 2011, 19:46 pm
@ wooden spoon(wooden spoon), do you realy want to discuss coal? Rather give your opinion on pat mccabe being used as inside centre and if aussies can win WC without barnes and robinson
10 Aug 2011, 19:50 pm
@RugbyGuru_0_(RugbyGuru_0_)-261: you mean you dont, Im so wounded by that comment… sies man, how can I go on..
@Dawn(Dawn)-260: I dont think that at all Dawn, was just explaining the type of accent my mate imitates… nothing more, nothing less…
10 Aug 2011, 19:52 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-260:
Dawn, as a Pommie I think Ryan Verde’s accent is hysterical!!
10 Aug 2011, 19:53 pm
@RugbyGuru_0_(RugbyGuru_0_)-264: nah I don’t really, I have no interest in coal, other than it keeping me warm in winter. Just keeping ol’ transieformation on his toes.
10 Aug 2011, 19:53 pm
@ poppa69(poppa69), I’m sure you will find a way to move on, you kiwis are like cockroaches, no matter how many times you beat that little roach, it always finds away to move on! Hahaha
10 Aug 2011, 20:07 pm
@RugbyGuru_0_(RugbyGuru_0_)-268: yep, we’ll always be the pests that disturb your utopia…
sorry about that.. lol
10 Aug 2011, 20:11 pm
@ poppa69(poppa69). True but we like doing the same… At world cups! Hehe I know kiwis have better record between world cups but am I right to say we have the upper hand playing against each other at world cups?
10 Aug 2011, 20:13 pm
@RugbyGuru_0_(RugbyGuru_0_)-270: well, only IF you want to count a 3rd vs 4th contest at the WC, when both teams were effectively already out of the tourny..
so one-all really
10 Aug 2011, 20:17 pm
@ poppa69(poppa69), so we do have the upper hand! dOnt you think all blacks should change the color of their jerseys? I mean englands black jersey looks way better? Lol
10 Aug 2011, 20:23 pm
@RugbyGuru_0_(RugbyGuru_0_)-272: I know exactly what you mean, I always confuse SA’s for convicts because you both have the same colours…
hahaha
so you want to count the 3rd/4th playoff? really? well, I guess only beating us 13 times in 19 years youd HAVE to count it just to get the stats up….
10 Aug 2011, 20:29 pm
GURU
We just had 250 posts of the same thing now you wanna start all over again
10 Aug 2011, 20:29 pm
@ poppa69(poppa69), green and gold convicts? Are you not thinking of your cousins across the tasman? History tell that NZ and Aus were slaves and convicts, not so? Mate, this is how Nz play at WC, they demolish everyone in the pool games and score plenty of tries playing running rugby, then along comes knockout games were the score lines are closer and pressure builds then Nz choke just like our cricket team.
10 Aug 2011, 20:36 pm
@RugbyGuru_0_(RugbyGuru_0_)-275: isorry, my mistake…snt it all green and gold teams? thought it was in their upbringing
I believe Aussies were the convicts, sent from England…
Her majesty and her subjects tried to take NZ, but ended up having to sign a treaty because they couldnt beat a small country, nothing much has changed in 100+ odd years, they still struggle to beat us, like you guys do
10 Aug 2011, 20:37 pm
Sophie Dahl’s accent sets my teeth on edge
10 Aug 2011, 20:38 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-274: its all good dawn, without the WC your fellow SA’s have nothing to hold over us..
so of course theyll revert back to THE ONLY STAT you guys are currently better at than us… I dread to see how many will cope if NZ do win the WC this year… what then for those people?
10 Aug 2011, 20:40 pm
@ wow Nz sounds like a brave country, I thought you guys are cowards, isn’t the haka about a soldier sticking his head in the mud and waiting for the war to pass? Ts ts ts
10 Aug 2011, 20:40 pm
@RugbyGuru_0_(RugbyGuru_0_)-275:
quote “History tell that NZ and Aus were slaves and convicts” unquote
best you spend less time on a rugby blog and more time in the history books…
10 Aug 2011, 20:42 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-273: So, pressure is building slowly, even your sports psycho have some advice for your precious
My jealously of your teams success will make your teams choking so much more to enjoy. I am looking forward to the moment and am really getting excited as I see how it is building up to the De javu of gigantic proportions.
10 Aug 2011, 20:43 pm
@ poppa69(poppa69), I did read up Nz history. I read you guys won the 1987 WC but struggled to find much after that, or am I wrong? Hahahaha
10 Aug 2011, 20:44 pm
@RugbyGuru_0_(RugbyGuru_0_)-279: yawn…
how very boring of you… perhaps you should try to learn a little more about the haka, I know your not used to dark skinned people having their culture at the forefront of a country, or being representative of that country, you cant help your upbringing, but give it a try..
you might learn something…
10 Aug 2011, 20:46 pm
@JL1(JL1)-281: another yawn…
obviously just want to troll, go for it… surely you can do better than that though?
man, there are going to be some very sad people IF NZ do win the title this year….
10 Aug 2011, 20:47 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-278:
Not you I’m worried about
I fear for my sanity
10 Aug 2011, 20:52 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-284: Hahah!, you have aged waiting for old precious!
Your grandchildren might see it, send us more of your coaches so that they can see what a proper rugby nation can do
They love coaching non chokers. Laurie Mains, Alex Wylie, Carlos Spencer, John Plumtree, John Mitchell
Maybe we will add Graham Henry after this RwC ?????
10 Aug 2011, 20:52 pm
@RugbyGuru_0_(RugbyGuru_0_)-279: how long you had this nik transie?
10 Aug 2011, 20:53 pm
@ poppa69(poppa69), so let’s add it up:
(1) Nz haven’t won’t the WC since 1987 even though they are always the favorites.
(2) Only 60% of Nz excited about WC.
(3) Eng jerseys look better.
(4) You guys don’t have game plan that wins WC
(5) Top Nz sports scientist sayd Nz cannot win WC due to pressure.
You still think Nz will win WC?I have said this before, the only way Nz will win wc is if eng play in their away kit! Hahaha PONDER ON THAT! I’m outa here, guru over and out
10 Aug 2011, 20:54 pm
@JL1(JL1)-286: obviously another one who thinks the WC is the be all and end all of rugby…
heres something you probably didnt enjoy as you aged..
since 1992
the head to head stats read
SA won 13
NZ won 31..
the rest, as the say, is history…
but continue, Im enjoying the hole youre diggin for yourself…
10 Aug 2011, 20:55 pm
Not NZ but all blacks, its late and I’m tired! Haha
10 Aug 2011, 20:55 pm
@RugbyGuru_0_(RugbyGuru_0_)-288: bye Transie… run along now, youve obviously STILL got nothing worthwhile to say…
10 Aug 2011, 20:56 pm
kiwis keep there heads they will walk this wc 6 love.
boks better pray we get out pool, never mind win thedamn thing!
10 Aug 2011, 20:57 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-283: mate, i didnt insult you or attack you yesterday, i simply disagreed that wales would be a banana skin.
was that too much?
should i tone it down for you?
i must say though poppa, i used to enjoy you but lately you come across as a proper ars ehole.
seriously mate, chill with the political rhetoric because it just makes you look ignorant.
10 Aug 2011, 20:57 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-289: Read my post in 281 again before you post drivel like I see RwC as the be all and end all
10 Aug 2011, 20:57 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-289: that is a scary stat for boks….a real wake up call…
10 Aug 2011, 20:58 pm
@RugbyGuru_0_(RugbyGuru_0_)-290:
heres some stats for you..
SA has lost to both Scotland (5 times) and Ireland, two countries NZ have NEVER lost to..
SA wins ONE game in every 4 since 1992 against NZ
Many SA’s will support any team playing the ABs at a WC, because they have fark all faith in their own team to beat them..
10 Aug 2011, 20:58 pm
@ poppa69(poppa69) mate, I’m not transie! Haha get of the medicine, its making you even more delusional! Hahaha
10 Aug 2011, 21:02 pm
@ G10, when is Nz not the favorites to win WC? GH admitted that Nz struggles to handle the pressure in tight games
10 Aug 2011, 21:02 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-293: oh ok… I see you didnt stop Topaz posting about a rape in NZ yesterday did you? that was in no way rugby related, ummm political rhetoric I guess youd call it, but of course youll excuse that because its about NZ… its only when its about SA that it becomes a problem huh Ranger?
@JL1(JL1)-294: well, it seems to be the general chorus, everyone hoping and praying that NZ choke again… guess it means you realise you team just wont be able to compete? fair enough..
10 Aug 2011, 21:06 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-296: well what does all of that mean when you look in the mirror mate?
seriously, i can see why you wanted a break from keo.
its eating you up buddy, the more you try to “defend” the honour of nz on an anonymous blog, the more of yourself you sacrifice.
i think you made a wise decision to take a break but i think it hasnt been long enough.
my suggestion would be to try and laugh a bit, share some banter.
if saffas call you a sheepshagging kiwi, laugh boet, because surely you are not one?
be proud of your team, they are magnificent at times but you do not play for the ab’s do you? surely the emotional investment you are putting into the all blacks should bring you joy, not the bitterness you display here daily?
use it, dont use it, i wish you a pleasant evening and good luck to your team when they play a full strength well rested bok team in the republic.
i think they will need it.
10 Aug 2011, 21:08 pm
@RugbyGuru_0_(RugbyGuru_0_)-298: i reckon we rather wait and see….the kiwis really seem on top of there game ….lineouts may be a kiwi weakness but we will need to play our best 15 to have any chance and as long as plod, spies and M Steyn are in the mix I dont believe we got a chance…
also feel we will need a fit juan smith and brussow….
The A bekker loss may come back to haunt us as well
10 Aug 2011, 21:08 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-299: I live in hope on both accounts
10 Aug 2011, 21:09 pm
@grant10(grant10)-301: Loads can still happen before the RWC
10 Aug 2011, 21:11 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-299: boet topaz is an ars ehole.
look at his nic, he hates me because i take him on just the same way i have just done with you?
so if a saffa reads your posts for the first time he is justified in thinking that all kiwis are a cunch of bunts?
who cares where it starts and ends buddy, its your choice but you will NEVER change the people who you are aiming at, you will simply become their mirror image.
maybe you dont see that but i hope that you realise it soon because if you carry around what you are displaying on here daily, you will eventually act out in real life and your intolerance will affect those around you, not just the bloggers on this meaningless website.
good luck, i must go now.
10 Aug 2011, 21:11 pm
@JL1(JL1)-303: for me the boks only chance of winning the wc will be a pack consisting of juan smith, bissy and brussow….absolute must haves to beat kiwis as well…..we will have to pray matfield comes through unscathed….we dont have a decent 5 lock in reserve…
10 Aug 2011, 21:13 pm
@ grant10(grant10), keep the faith brother, boks will beat aussies this weekend and we will beat Nz the following weekend. Yes Nz looks awesome but they always do, if we implement our kicking game plan with du preez, james, fransie and if matfield can disrupt the line outs then we will give ourselves good chance of retaining WC
10 Aug 2011, 21:15 pm
@RugbyGuru_0_(RugbyGuru_0_)-306: from your lips to the rugby g ods ears my man
10 Aug 2011, 21:16 pm
thanx for chat rugby people, I’m outa here, guru over and out!
10 Aug 2011, 21:18 pm
@RugbyGuru_0_(RugbyGuru_0_)-308: cheers i am gone as well
outta here
10 Aug 2011, 21:19 pm
@grant10(grant10)-305: Well Juan is still on the sideline, Bissy makes a difference but …….. yc proned and he needs some back up, soft on scrum as well
Brussouw is key, absolute key
10 Aug 2011, 21:21 pm
@grant10(grant10)-307: I also heard via the grapevine that these Boks want to put their bodies on the line for 7 big games to win the cup, and be heroes with fat pay cheques for life
10 Aug 2011, 22:32 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-304: Hey Range… very well spoken Bru. Perfect.
May you be blessed with your full quota of bugs & abundant uncrowded surf.
Catch you later for a bulldust.
10 Aug 2011, 22:48 pm
@jocuba(jocuba)-312: cheers man!
10 Aug 2011, 23:15 pm
well played ranger, even for a squirrel hunter, you still have a heart!
10 Aug 2011, 23:23 pm
Give it a rest Poppa. Your incessant whining is tiring.
Perhaps you need another break from Keo? Grant10 has had at least 7 breaks from Keo already.
10 Aug 2011, 23:23 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-314: suck up.
10 Aug 2011, 23:43 pm
hi spooner
10 Aug 2011, 23:51 pm
So much for the much vaunted ’30 k man squad’
VITO CALLED IN
Thursday, 11 August 2011
8.38 a.m.
Wellington and Hurricanes loose
forward Victor Vito has been
brought into the All Blacks
training camp, a precursor to the
trip away to face South Africa.
The 24-year-old will train with
fellow squad members over the
next two days before the team is
announced to fly to South Africa
on Friday.
Vito will be looking to add to his six Test
caps, all of which were achieved last year.
His last Test was the All Blacks’ 23-22 win
over Australia in Sydney.
Vito’s inclusion comes after coach Graham
Henry indicated his side would likely take
just 24 players on the trip instead of the
maximum of 27.
It is understood star first five-eighths Dan
Carter and flanker Richie McCaw could be
rested in order to give themselves a chance
to freshen up before the World Cup.
11 Aug 2011, 01:53 am
Why single out Matfield and FDP among the players? Why not throw in the two WP veteran midfielders?
11 Aug 2011, 04:18 am
@poppa69: 296 Here’s a stat for you NZ have never beaten the Boks in a WC
95 – Loss in Final
99- Loss in 3rd/4th playoff
Only time you boys won 87 Boks not there. We have plenty faith in beating you. Quiet frankly I agree with Louis Luyt on this one Boks in 86 beat NZ(only John Kirwan did not tour). That Bok team was quite possibly the strongest we ever had likes of Naas Botha, Danie Gerber, Carel DuPlessis. You lucky we did not play
11 Aug 2011, 06:48 am
@Champs 95 07 and Beyond(Champs 95 07 and Beyond)-320: Not quite, brother. They knocked us out in 2003.
11 Aug 2011, 08:45 am
@stormer in a teacup: 321 Boet quite possibly you are right. That is a year I have obliterated from my memory. I think my mind sizzled to pulp when we only managed to scrape past Georgia. The worst showing by Boks by far. Man those were dark years
11 Aug 2011, 10:11 am
@Champs 95 07 and Beyond(Champs 95 07 and Beyond)-320:
2003 you muppet. they thrashed us in the QF before losing to Aussies in the semis.
just stick to the fact our success rate at world cups is 50%, theirs 17%
11 Aug 2011, 10:11 am
@Champs 95 07 and Beyond(Champs 95 07 and Beyond)-322:
11 Aug 2011, 11:18 am
Wait till after the game before making such an idiotic statement
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