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• 101.ashampoopaloo:
  16 Aug 2011, 20:25 pm

  @Sheriff(Sheriff)-98:

  Are you all of a sardine the voice of moral interjection here… and wtf is a jihad… don’t bother I weren’t born yesterday I know quite clearly what it is … and my blasphemy against Saint John ain’t a Jihad by any standards…. your Brother John better shape up or ship out… because he ain’t been shaping up the past two years and COUNTING… so rather you worry about your own moral standards of humane association… and I’ll worry about mine.

• 102.Transformation:
  16 Aug 2011, 20:33 pm

  @Sheriff(Sheriff)-100: interesting, go on.

• 103.Sheriff:
  16 Aug 2011, 20:33 pm

  @ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-101:

  I just felt it is important to call you to order.

  You have raised your concerns. They have been noted and you must now move on.

  Aim for balance. Less is more.

  John is fighting his own battles but there is no need to single him out. Many players find themselves in that space. Habs, JdV, Morne, Spies, Brussow and the list goes on.

  What we need is a team effort where someone can be the catalyst to spark the entire unit to all perform at their best at the business end of the tournament.

• 104.Dawn:
  16 Aug 2011, 20:33 pm

  Helen Zille

• 105.RugbyGuru_0_:
  16 Aug 2011, 20:34 pm

  @ Sheriff(Sheriff) I want to shoot the sherrif but I didn’t shoot the deputy! Haha taking the morale high ground captain oh captain?

• 106.Sheriff:
  16 Aug 2011, 20:40 pm

  @Transformation(Transformation)-102:

  Funny that you ask.

  Let me explain. I’ll use Dawn to illustrate my point.

  You see Dawn has what I call ‘bloggermylitis’ that is, she has to blog every day.
  Nothing wrong with it, but she may have reached a point that she feels that she is not in equilibrium when she did not read the threads or blogged herself.

  Also, because she has been blogging here for so long, before 2006 if memory serves me right, she feels – quite unintentionally – that this is her domain.

  Here she can take a leave from say ‘katman’ and take a bit of a break to come back with fresh perspective.

  The problem is that the longer we blog the more intolerant we become and feel it is quite OK to lash out at newcomers. I speak from experience, it nearly happened to me a few years ago.

• 107.Dawn:
  16 Aug 2011, 20:44 pm

  Excuse me?

  Who’s lashing out? Me?

  Who is reffing this game

• 108.ashampoopaloo:
  16 Aug 2011, 20:45 pm

  @Sheriff(Sheriff)-103: you sound like a preacher man where you come from, Xmas Past?

  You sound like Saul of Tarsus or somebody with some great savior you trying to protect and enshrine for dear life.

  Call me to order who the fck you piddly dweeb actually think you are?

• 109.Sheriff:
  16 Aug 2011, 20:45 pm

  Simultaneously several question arise: what is Helen’s agenda?

  Why did she have to make an entrance here with such an emphatic way?
  Why not slip in and make friends?

• 110.RugbyGuru_0_:
  16 Aug 2011, 20:46 pm

  @ Sheriff(Sheriff), Dr. Phil is that you?

• 111.Sheriff:
  16 Aug 2011, 20:48 pm

  @ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-108:

  Sham-poepol- loo ; you know me well

  You know well I stand for justice

• 112.mpundulu:
  16 Aug 2011, 20:49 pm

  S

• 113.RugbyGuru_0_:
  16 Aug 2011, 20:50 pm

  @ mpundulu(mpundulu), one word at a time, you can do it! Hehe

• 114.Sheriff:
  16 Aug 2011, 20:51 pm

  @Dawn(Dawn)-107:

  You said nothing because Rossoneri said what you wanted to.

  You knew well that it would have been duplication if you also said the same thing.

  One thing I can say for you is this: you’re not into duplication

  You did not call Rossoneri to order hence you agreed in your heart with her. Your only concern was and is the true identity of ‘Helen’

  Bloggermylitis tells you its ‘Helen Zille’

  My bet is that it is just another ‘Helen’ ; say ‘Helen Parker’ or Groenewald

• 115.Sheriff:
  16 Aug 2011, 20:52 pm

  @RugbyGuru_0_(RugbyGuru_0_)-110:

  It’s not psychology; it’s logic… read it again…

• 116.RugbyGuru_0_:
  16 Aug 2011, 20:55 pm

  @ Sheriff(Sheriff), Helen the Genherist?

• 117.mpundulu:
  16 Aug 2011, 20:56 pm

  Helen arrived with immense gusto and crimson but just lacked in knowledge. She merely had an inability to accept that the one point she got from someone else is actually rather short on idea and does not need exception. She pressed on that particular avenue until many got quite annoyed. She needs a broader rugby intellectual base, and save on the insult first strategy.

• 118.Sheriff:
  16 Aug 2011, 20:57 pm

  @RugbyGuru_0_(RugbyGuru_0_)-116:

  Helen the Generic

• 119.Sheriff:
  16 Aug 2011, 20:58 pm

  @mpundulu(mpundulu)-117:

  Who gives you the right to judge?

  How many kilograms rugby knowledge do you have?

• 120.Sheriff:
  16 Aug 2011, 21:02 pm

  Meanwhile keo has not put an article here of Wayne Smith praising PdV

  There is a reason for this. He knows well that Wayne is not into conspiracy theories or mindgames like himself.

  Wayne simple stated that people underestimate this bloke. His saying that he thinks the guy deliberately portrays himself like that.

  Remember Wayne is smart, he knows what he’s talking about. I also remember old Ted walking over to PdV to shake his hand in 2009 which to me was a sign of great character

• 121.Gunther:
  16 Aug 2011, 21:03 pm

  Well Helen the Generous has certainly had a profound impact on keo.

  She called stormerboy sweetie and he hasn’t been seen since.

  Probably in the free weights section slinging tin

  

• 122.Dawn:
  16 Aug 2011, 21:04 pm

  What are you talking about

  I haven’t been on all day

• 123.keo:
  16 Aug 2011, 21:05 pm

  @Sheriff(Sheriff)-120: I haven’t put it there cos I know what they think of him privately and it certainly isn’t the patronizing nonsense spoken at a press conference about him being ‘shrewd’

• 124.keo:
  16 Aug 2011, 21:06 pm

  more importantly, it’s good to see my jawline starting to take shape. A big thank you to PT Bridgette (at Virgin Active, Wembley Square).

• 125.Sheriff:
  16 Aug 2011, 21:07 pm

  @Dawn(Dawn)-122:

  Why can you not make eye contact with me?

  You know well that you always read all the threads every day, especially the longer ones

• 126.Sheriff:
  16 Aug 2011, 21:09 pm

  Everybody is taking the bait tonight

  I have not played in a long time, but clearly it’s like riding a bicycle

• 127.I am a stormer:
  16 Aug 2011, 21:09 pm

  @Sheriff(Sheriff)-120:

  Wayne Smith was actually mis-quoted.

  He said overestimated.

  People make mistakes.

• 128.wooden spoon:
  16 Aug 2011, 21:12 pm

  I tend to agree with the gist of what is said in the clip.

  NZ slaughtered our (true) B team in NZ.

  We really should be expected to convincingly beat an AB team at home without eight regular starters. A loss at HOME to a B team would be utterly devastating for our RWC hopes. This game is extremely important in the psychological stakes – if our full strength team can’t do it at home against a weakened team, what price of beating a full strength on their patch?

  Only thing I didn’t agree with in the clip was Keo’s popped collar.

• 129.mpundulu:
  16 Aug 2011, 21:12 pm

  If one follows helen’s positions, there are centrally two, Nienaber’s appointment means that the Boks in two months will do what the stormers have achieved in three years. That’s nonsense. Additionally, with the Boks having jdv and Jacque Fourie then that translates to the bok squad being able to translate the two stormers knowledge to accelerate their understanding of Nienaber’s defense strategy from systems to individual technique bearing in mind that the Boks have had one game with the Rustenburg 21 and a following game this weekend before the WC to pull together their defensive strategy. Now there are some pool games in the WC, however, two of those are critical to ensure the Boks don’t leave before they reach the qualifying stage. If you’ve followed her posts, the above is easy to accept unless she’s your significant other, relation, or friend if not than it’s trying to accept what precisely you are arguing about?

• 130.ashampoopaloo:
  16 Aug 2011, 21:13 pm

  @keo(keo)-123:

  so keo pray tell

  what do the inner circle of influential friends and uncles ACTUALLY think of PdV… Maybe Wayne Smith is shrewder than all you saffa high priests of springbok rugby combined?

• 131.I am a stormer:
  16 Aug 2011, 21:15 pm

  Pdiv should have:

  Started with Beast, Bissie, Jannie dup
  Started Butch at FH

  And let combinations develop. His A team.

  But didn’t.

  He missed a trick there.

• 132.Sheriff:
  16 Aug 2011, 21:16 pm

  Ted and his mates know that PdV had the right idea when he joined the Bok setup.

  He wanted to play ‘total rugby’

  Of course the pressure of winning got to him and soon the Jake White voices went up that we ‘need to return to our traditional strengths’ Talking of Jake – I see he is ‘ talking a lot of rubbish, all the time’ ; I guess his fear is that PdV will lead the Boks to retaining the Cup – something no one has ever done!!!?

  Wouldn’t that be something!?

  I bet they will find a thrust of how John/Victor/FdP mapped it out and that after all, PdV was merely a spectator in it all

• 133.wooden spoon:
  16 Aug 2011, 21:17 pm

  Despite what Nienaber did with the Stormers’ defence the Crusaders were still able to unlock their defence sufficiently well enough at home to win, once with a B team.

  You can defend as well as want but you will still give away penalties in your half, you will still slip a few tackles and even Jake White’s team had a bit of attacking nous to score a try or two.

  This Bok team predictably crashes it up route 1 (think JDV – ever seen him pass?) when they don’t kick it away.

• 134.wooden spoon:
  16 Aug 2011, 21:18 pm

  If a coach doesn’t have the guts to stick with his stated game plan choice – through either public dissent (pressure) or poor results – whose fault is that?

• 135.>^..^< katman:
  16 Aug 2011, 21:19 pm

  @keo(keo)-124: Bridgette does face lifts and tucks at Virgin Active? Doesn’t sound awfully sterile. You sure it’s cool?

• 136.Sheriff:
  16 Aug 2011, 21:19 pm

  @mpundulu(mpundulu)-129:

  Helen is a junior blogger so I did not read all her comments in detail, but I felt she had good logic there

  She is obvioudly at risk if she gets her facts mixed up, so that she needs to negotiate, but I felt comfortable that she has potential to be a regular here

  Time will tell. Not everyone can do it.

• 137.JockBok:
  16 Aug 2011, 21:21 pm

  Hey Keo, I know it maybe defeat the purpose, but any chance you can put up a transcript of these tv sections of yours? I can’t watch on my crappy connection in an even crappier country and i like the opinion pieces.

  Oh, and you can MP3 your Sat morning show or podcast it as well, can’t stream here either.

  You know you want to

• 138.BullDog15:
  16 Aug 2011, 21:21 pm

  That other thread has way too much BS so I will comment over here on the team.

  I think this is our best backline. Now if only Jean would pass once in a while, things will be fine.

  In the forward pack I am unconvinced Gurthro is ready for test rugby. Possibly a case of too little too late. Great player, but no game time and probably should not go to the WC. Big pity. Also don’t think Juan will be fit and ready (once again, no decent game time, unless he has a few blinders in the CC). So realistically, we need to look at a starting replacement. Perhaps Burger? Albert works, but he lost a bit of form in the S15. Too many knock-ons to make me comfortable. If Burger is fit, then I’d play him on the bench to cover just about all 3 loose forward positions. But can you really afford a guy like Burger on th bench and not starting?

  So start with Beast, add Burger on the bench, and have only CJ as prop cover. Add another backline player…maybe Frans Steyn, provided he goes on a major diet.

• 139.JockBok:
  16 Aug 2011, 21:25 pm

  @Sheriff(Sheriff)-136:

  Lol. How far is your head up your arze?

• 140.Guns:
  16 Aug 2011, 21:25 pm

  @Helen(Helen)-46:

  “”keo, how come you are allowed to say bull ****, but our posts are censored?”"

  Classic!!!

• 141.Dawn:
  16 Aug 2011, 21:26 pm

  @Sheriff(Sheriff)-136:

  Go pick on someone else

  Am not in mood for your kuk tonight

  I will read the threads if I want it’s a free fecking country

• 142.I am a stormer:
  16 Aug 2011, 21:28 pm

  @wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-133:

  Must admit I’ve been disappointed in JDV this season. Although the hasn’t made the line breaks one expects him to, gone are the ability of creating a half-gap and the quick hands he used to have.
  Possibly needs to stand a metre or two deeper. Would have preferred him starting with Butch again who gets over the gain line himself, who does have quick hands would make a difference.
  It’s going to take time – but the clock is ticking.

• 143.wooden spoon:
  16 Aug 2011, 21:31 pm

  I have no idea why they are starting with M Steyn this weekend. Step backwards imo!

• 144.RugbyGuru_0_:
  16 Aug 2011, 21:32 pm

  @ Sheriff(Sheriff), how much have you been drinking tonight?

• 145.PissAnt:
  16 Aug 2011, 21:33 pm

  Skoppie, I would love to have a good rugby conversation like in the old days, no offense mate, never intended it to come across as such but reading my post it sort of did.

• 146.JockBok:
  16 Aug 2011, 21:34 pm

  @I am a stormer(I am a stormer)-142:

  Problem is, the 12 jersey is a toss up between JdV and WO in Divvyland.

  But I agree with you on this season, he never did enough for me either (fark, i hope HG doesn’t read that)

• 147.charo:
  16 Aug 2011, 21:34 pm

  @mpundulu(mpundulu)-129:

  actually you can add habanero as another stormer coached by nienaber.

  so, perhaps helen was not that far from the truth?

  she reminds me a lot of another blogger, big g from years back but i get the impression that helen is a lions supporter – big g was all sharks.

  nevertheless, she adds more value than 90% of the “ou manne” here.

• 148.>^..^< katman:
  16 Aug 2011, 21:38 pm

  @charo(charo)-147: Everyone is supporting the Lions these days.

• 149.PissAnt:
  16 Aug 2011, 21:38 pm

  @charo(charo)-147:

  And she was/is kak hot

• 150.charo:
  16 Aug 2011, 21:42 pm

  @>^..^< katman(katman)-148:

  lot of fickle people about these days?

  @PissAnt(PissAnt)-149:

  helen or big g….i suspect you are referring to the latter?

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