Comments on: KeoTV: PE needs top-class rugby

By: Transformation(Transformation)

Transformation(Transformation) — Fri, 19 Aug 2011 13:23:34 +0000

@infidel(infidel)-85: great post! love it

By: infidel(infidel)

infidel(infidel) — Fri, 19 Aug 2011 12:26:49 +0000

I know that it is impossible to change some peoples minds but think of Australia and the Super 15. Why did they want Melbourne as a franchise?There is no real rugby history there. What there is however, is a large poulation and therefore the potential exists to greatly increase the pool that Australian rugby draws from. Yes, the Rebels got thumped, yes they had to import all their players but that is part of the process of building a support base and growing rugby in Australia. Now, imagine how happy the ARU would be to discover that 5 of the top eleven rugby schools (in May anyway) were situated in Melbourne. Not only that but there was a huge undiscovered pool of Aborigines mixed with Samoan islanders who actually played rugby (nobody had really noticed them because Aborigines don’t normally play rugby on a large scale.). They would be ecstatic. Or should Australia say, ” No stuff Melbourne, it they want to play S15 they must earn it”. As much as I hate to say it, the ARU are a lot smarter than SARU.

By: Te Rangatira(Te Rangatira)

Te Rangatira(Te Rangatira) — Fri, 19 Aug 2011 11:51:04 +0000

Maybe SARU can invest some cash into PE Rugby at grassroots level,

By: I am a stormer(I am a stormer)

I am a stormer(I am a stormer) — Fri, 19 Aug 2011 04:19:08 +0000

@TheTackler(TheTackler)-82: New Zealand being a case in point. Always thought rugby was like a religion downunder.

By: TheTackler(TheTackler)

TheTackler(TheTackler) — Fri, 19 Aug 2011 03:27:57 +0000

Walk-in crowds at any stadium barely covers the beer and peanuts money. You make serious money from the people who do NOT show up at the ground but who watch it on their TV sets at home. You could have home games in Kakamas, Kathmandu or Karachi just as long as millions really wanted to see it on the telly.

By: Wolf(Wolf)

Wolf(Wolf) — Fri, 19 Aug 2011 02:13:05 +0000

In the end of the day it’s going to come down to money…and by that I mean which cities are the biggest markets and which stadiums can attract more fans.

PE pulls from East London and George and all the smaller towns in-between. Kimberly, Pumas and Leopards.. smaller market. Has a big enough airport for teams and fans to fly into and enough hotels to accommodate them.

And if you don’t think it’s about the money…ask yourself why we are playing a Tri-Nations tournament in a WC year on top of the longest Super Rugby season ever.

The logical choice for the 6th CC team are the Kings…one of the original Test Unions. Logical doesn’t always mean right.

By: wallabie.(wallabie.)

wallabie.(wallabie.) — Fri, 19 Aug 2011 01:54:22 +0000

Keo buddy

Flared collars went out of fashion back in the 90′s. I know you may look clever amongst your bru’s in district 6 but it does not look so on tv.

Tv is good collar is bad.

By: Miff(Miff)

Miff(Miff) — Thu, 18 Aug 2011 21:26:16 +0000

Just who are PE supporting? Keohane simply says the city is ready fro big time rugby. What if the people are supporting the All Blacks and what if the Boks lose.
Can somebody illuminate a poor foreigner?

By: I am a stormer(I am a stormer)

I am a stormer(I am a stormer) — Thu, 18 Aug 2011 18:26:31 +0000

One thing that keo said that stands out like a sore thumb.

And that is, that the decent people in Durban don’t support top-class rugby. They can’t fill a 45,000 seater for a Test. And it’s not as if they get a test every year.
Yet PE can.
And that happens in Super Rugby as well. It’s disappointing to see all the empty seats at Kings Park.
I thought people in Durban supported big-time rugby.
Clearly not.

By: David(David)

David(David) — Thu, 18 Aug 2011 13:07:15 +0000

@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-76:
You’re right. We seem to have language problem.

By: Heavens Game(Heavens Game)

Heavens Game(Heavens Game) — Thu, 18 Aug 2011 12:51:25 +0000

@David(David)-71: Nope, I dont think you got it

By: David(David)

David(David) — Thu, 18 Aug 2011 12:42:38 +0000

@we have it on good authority that on september 11, a legend will rise…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-73: It's a combination of both. SARU actually pays the province for using a player in the S15. This effectively allows a major CC province to sign players knowing that SARU will subsidise their salaries when they play for the S15 franchise. There's also the fact that exposure at S15 level increases a players chance of Bok selection. Without an S15 place, the Kings (EP, Border and SWD) have nothing to offer their top players to stay.

By: mshiniwami(mshiniwami)

mshiniwami(mshiniwami) — Thu, 18 Aug 2011 12:15:31 +0000

@Transformation(Transformation)-54: Eloquently put and 100% correct everything you just said. Potential is without boundaries....Mvovo is just tip of the iceberg.

By: we have it on good authority that on september 11, a legend will rise...(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)

Thu, 18 Aug 2011 11:59:59 +0000

@David(David)-69: what would the solution be to this problem? are you saying they need s15 status to attract players wanting to play in the best league? or s15 status meaning they would be better placed to pay players the money needed to keep them in team/at the union? perhaps gumede should earnestly look at providing a financial umbrella to ep union. but that would probably not be as financially profitable as financing a super team, if at all. he looks like more of a business man first and a rugby sponsor second to me though so would probably not. s15 unions get a big enough cash boost to probably make any investment by gumede worthwhile, plus add in brand sponsorships. its trickier for currie cup unions.

By: we have it on good authority that on september 11, a legend will rise...(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)

Thu, 18 Aug 2011 11:22:33 +0000

@Transformation(Transformation)-68:
no you grow up..hehe…

i am 100% all for ep’s development and hopefull inclusion in super rugby in the future and have been saying it for ages. after all, they cant do any worse than the lions…or can they? hehe
will you at least admit that ep’s development does have more to do with transformation than any of the other rugby regions? otherwise why punt ep and not another union such as griquas? but this doesn’t make it a bad thing, bad is not saying it like it is.
just saying its ironic thet the union has not been able to transform the team faster and make it more non white, this would surely bolster their super rugby cause, no?

By: David(David)

David(David) — Thu, 18 Aug 2011 11:17:31 +0000

@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-70: More like puff pastry.

By: Heavens Game(Heavens Game)

Heavens Game(Heavens Game) — Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:59:54 +0000

@David(David)-69: In a similar vein to "Let them eat cake", "Let them support the Sharks".

By: David(David)

David(David) — Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:54:02 +0000

@we have it on good authority that on september 11, a legend will rise…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-67: How many English players are there in the Chelsea and Arsenal teams? That doesn't affect the number oflocal supporters the teams have. Besides, all the top players, black and white, from the EP have already been signed by S15 teams. Until EP gets S15 status, they'll never be able to keep or attract their best black players.

By: Transformation(Transformation)

Transformation(Transformation) — Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:11:46 +0000

@we have it on good authority that on september 11, a legend will rise…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-67: SARU have task to develop rugby everywhere, not just for transformation reasons. EP needs the support from SARU to be able to jack themselves up so that the vast talent that comes from this area that usually falls by the way side has a chance to grow. the EP Kings are not only for black kids/players, grow up.

By: we have it on good authority that on september 11, a legend will rise...(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)

Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:05:23 +0000

@grant10(grant10)-60:
really?…well heres a little curve ball for you…their player squad is mostly white…about 20 white guys and about 10 non-white guys…sooooo a fairs question would be whats the point then?….if its ‘for reasons other than rugby’ in the same way as hoskins said of pdivot and is rather about transformation..then its a litttle ironic in a funny sa way…