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• 201.Nils:
  19 Aug 2011, 15:35 pm

  Right, Keo, Boks rebounded with a bang after Scotland. The problem is – B side or not – it’s All Blacks tomorrow not English “money all blacks”. Game can go either way however as long as visitors keep staying in touch despite hosts initial onslaught, result should be in their favour in the end. I’d say ABs by a few.

• 202.Gunther:
  19 Aug 2011, 15:35 pm

  I see the Ranger has been handing out some bush muti.

  Looks like the NHI has started early.

  

• 203.Black Magic:
  19 Aug 2011, 15:36 pm

  @Tecumseh(Tecumseh)-197:
  Thats sick. Shall we talk about burning tyres around peoples necks as well? No!
  That s-hit is best left in the gutter where it belongs, FK me thats low.

• 204.Transformation:
  19 Aug 2011, 15:37 pm

  @Couchcoach(GI POT)-191: how many times in a year did the Springboks play the All Blacks pre-Tri Nations competition?

  Quantity vs Quality

  All the people moaning and making a comparison of the amateur days and the now “we had to have tri-nations because some of the member unions need the revenue” days are delusional

  SANZAR has devalued the once fierce and special rivalry!

  before the Hong Kong Bledisloe Australia were on a 10 match LOSING streak against the All Blacks, so i don’t get how that match up has surpassed the NZ vs SA one

• 205.Couchcoach:
  19 Aug 2011, 15:37 pm

  @Transformation(Transformation)-194:

  That is a good question Transie. The overall problem is that it seems as though international coaches have different priorities. We in SA seem to put a premium on the WC – I guess because of what it did for the country in ’95.
  The AB’s, for example, place a much higher premium on each and every test because of the commercial spin – offs that are generated by creating a winning culture. The more they win, the higher the bid on sponsorships and the more cash they have to keep their players.
  The result of this is that you have two teams competing on the same field, but they are not exactly playing the same game. It is ludicrous in my opinion.
  The only solution to this problem is that NZ have to win the WC. I believe that it is going to put to bed our ridiculous excuses for underperforming – the powers that be will realize the fickleness of concentrating all your efforts on a competition that only happens every four years and then you end up being disgraced anyway.
  Winning the WC in NZ’s case will do their rugby the world of good and will go a long way towards national pride. Moreover, they will become the ultimate bench mark in rugby and it will inspire nations to copy their method of putting a premium on every game. Every team on the planet will be on the same page and competition will once more be rife.
  So, to answer your question; under the current paradigm in SARU, he will be fired

• 206.cane:
  19 Aug 2011, 15:38 pm

  @Black Magic(Black Magic)-190:

  Fern………………………………………………….sometimes he pretends he is one of us.

  Attack, on-sight,………………………………………………………….don’t wait for provocation.

  ( I will never ever offer you any other advice).

• 207.Transformation:
  19 Aug 2011, 15:39 pm

  @Gunther(gunther)-200: has cane done a poopa?

• 208.Black Magic:
  19 Aug 2011, 15:39 pm

  @Transformation(Transformation)-199:

  It’s not so much SANZARS fault, have a closer look in the mirror mate.
  Whenever the ABs pull on that jersey, it’s death before dishonour, that’s something you once had as well but currently no longer do, and that’s a tragedy.

• 209.Gunther:
  19 Aug 2011, 15:41 pm

  @Black Magic(Black Magic)-203:

  you should ignore the poodlefucker.

  he is lower than a daschund’s bollox.

• 210.WP Till I Die:
  19 Aug 2011, 15:42 pm

  Speaking of legendary players of the game…

  When an eminent panel of South African rugby experts had to decide on the ‘Player of the 20th Century’ in late 2000, the decision was easy – who else than the great Northern Transvaal and Springbok lock forward, Frik Du Preez? Du Preez is to South African rugby what his great rival Colin Meads is to New Zealand rugby:­ a gallant, legendary and iconic figure. He epitomised, with his commitment to any team for which he played, at club, provincial and international levels, all of rugby’s finest values.

  Du Preez first came to public attention in 1956 when, as a young air force officer, he out-jumped and out-punched the fearsome Springbok lock Salty du Randt in a match between his Defence Force XV and Pretoria. The performance earmarked him as a top prospect, but it was another two years before he was chosen for Northern Transvaal seniors.

  In 1960 Du Preez so totally dominated the forward exchanges in the match between the Defence Force XV and the touring All Blacks (which the Forces won 8-6) that he was selected for the Springbok tour of Britain late that year. He fulfilled his lifetime ambition of pulling on the Springbok shirt in the tour match against Southern Counties, a game in which he scored two tries.

  Frik broke down and wept with joy when selected to play his first test for the Springboks on 7th January 1961 at the age of 25, against England at Twickenham. The Springboks won 5­-0, with Du Preez converting a try to score his first test points. He quickly developed into the dominant forward in world rugby and a truly exceptional player. A phenomenal work-rate and uncompromising tackling were features of his play and his technique in both lineout and scrum were faultless. But it was in the loose that he set himself apart, combining lightning pace with the guile and ball-handling skills of a back. He displayed his skill and sheer audacity by winning several games for the Blue Bulls with long-range drop goals. Even place-kicking came naturally to him and he was often entrusted by the Springboks with this duty. He was an athlete ahead of his time, with an ability to raise his game to another level when circumstances demanded it ­- the sign of a truly great player. The bigger the occasion the greater an impact the talismanic lock made. Always a fearsome competitor, his immense physicality on the field was in stark contrast to his kind and courteous demeanour off it.

  Mention Frik du Preez’s name to many British rugby fans and it evokes images of the powerful Springbok in the first test against the 1968 Lions at Loftus Versveld, Pretoria, storming around the front of a lineout and thundering 40 metres downfield, outsprinting the Lions backs, to score one of Bok rugby’s most celebrated tries. Other unforgettable images for South African fans are of Du Preez demoralising a star-studded Western Province side at Loftus Versveld in 1969, first kicking a monster penalty from five metres inside his own half, then scoring a try with a scintillating run, and finally landing a drop goal from 40 metres out.

  Unusually for a player of his era, when rugby was dominated by provincial rivalry, Frik was revered all over South Africa. After he played his last ever match for the Blue Bulls at Newlands in 1971, the Western Province supporters invaded the pitch and carried Du Preez off shoulder-high. South African fans will appreciate how rare that is!

  When he played his last test against Australia on 7th August 1971 at the age of 35, he held the record for the most test matches played for South Africa, with 38 appearances. In total he wore the Green and Gold in 87 games and scored 87 points. Du Preez represented South Africa for 10 years and had he played in the modern professional era with at least 12 tests a year, would surely have exceeded 100 caps.

  When the International Rugby Board’s Rugby Hall of Fame came into being in 1997, Frik Du Preez and Danie Craven were the only South Africans to be elected into it. In a 2003 poll by Rugby World Magazine, Frik was voted as one of the 10 greatest players of all time. Dr Danie Craven once wrote: “Frik is a once-in-a-lifetime phenomenon. I don’t know if Frik himself ever realised how much he was capable of. To my mind he could have played any position on a rugby field with equal brilliance.” As a sporting icon Frik Du Preez is South Africa’s equivalent of Australia’s Don Bradman, the USA’s Babe Ruth, or New Zealand’s Colin “Pinetree” Meads.

• 211.Transformation:
  19 Aug 2011, 15:43 pm

  @Couchcoach(GI POT)-205: thanks, good reply.

• 212.Black Magic:
  19 Aug 2011, 15:43 pm

  @cane(cane)-206: @Gunther(gunther)-209:

  Thanks for the advice, apologies if I crossed the line.

• 213.Tecumseh:
  19 Aug 2011, 15:46 pm

  @Black Magic(Black Magic)-203: go and read the article in the plymouth times or something like that my friend.apparently,according to the author,gang-rape is very common for that area otherwise he would have written an article on that…yet again.according to him the cheering masses,at least the following day,sheepishly went to the police with some info.in any cae you are the first world country .we are aware of our crime not trying to hide it from the world like you kiwis.

• 214.Black Magic:
  19 Aug 2011, 15:46 pm

  @Couchcoach(GI POT)-205:

  Good comment, just not sure the money is the greatest motivator all though obviously it plays a huge part. The ABs have tenaciously hung onto the pride in the jersey, long may it continue.

• 215.Gunther:
  19 Aug 2011, 15:46 pm

  @Black Magic(Black Magic)-212:

  no problems.

  I would use both barrels on the little twatstick.

  just in case…

  

• 216.Black Magic:
  19 Aug 2011, 15:47 pm

  @Tecumseh(Tecumseh)-213:

  Speaking of poodles.

• 217.cane:
  19 Aug 2011, 15:51 pm

  @Tecumseh(Tecumseh)-197:
  “on expatexposed you can read some interesting stuff on cane’s perfect nz..asian girls getting raped in full view of cheering kiwis seems to be a national hobby in plymouth”.

  Last time I looked at my Schoolboy Atlas, Plymouth was in England, and also one in Maine.

  Not too many cheering Kiwi’s there I would think.

  For a Poster who takes his Nik from General/President Grants middle name, I would expect more accuracy.

  Or are you just a 2-Stroke.

• 218.ET.:
  19 Aug 2011, 15:52 pm

  When people know what they want they inevitably but strongly articulate THEIR needs. They too know their collective voice is more meaningful now, as the IOL article below intimates (READ and WEEP):

  {{ ” WHY we SUPPORT the ALL BLACKS

  THE rapturous welcome the All Blacks received at Port Elizabeth airport has reopened the controversy that surrounded the similar support enjoyed by the Crusaders when the Christchurch-based team twice visited Cape Town earlier this year.

  The pictures of Port Elizabethans figuratively slitting their throats haka-style in exhibitions of raw passion as their overwhelmed heroes struggled through the arrivals hall to their team bus have prompted questions, mainly from white South Africans, as to why their coloured compatriots, two decades into democracy, still do not support the Springboks.

  Old habits die hard is the reflex refrain, but having chatted to locals here and informed colleagues in Cape Town, the answer is more complex and in some ways not as sinister or controversial as many people think. And it includes the community feeling let down by the present-day South African Rugby Union, as well as the bare fact that the All Blacks play great rugby.

  Of course there is the political aspect to it, dating back to the horrors initiated by Hendrik Verwoerd in the 60s. Naturally, the disenfranchised would support anyone but the sporting standard-bearers of apartheid, the Springboks, who better than anything reflected the white “elite”.

  And blacks would certainly support the one team that gave the then world-beating Boks a hard time on the field, the All Blacks.

  Nobody else could come near to rivalling the Boks in the amateur era (pre 1995).

  And the young South Africans who hated the Boks in those days are now grandfathers, and the passion they had for the Kiwis has been passed on through generations and, if anything, has grown stronger.

  Cory Jane, the All Blacks winger, described the airport reception thus: “It was crazy, but very cool. The channel that we were walking through got tighter and tighter as we got closer to the bus and people were trying to reach out and touch you.

  “It was very special. It was very humbling to see what the black jersey means to them, and the way they were chanting ‘All Blacks, All Blacks’ was goose-bump stuff.”

  But the political history is only part of it. The chairman of the Eastern Cape All Blacks supporters club, which has 3 000 registered members and plenty more unofficial members, is one Danville Felkers, and he sheds some interesting light.

  “I was born into supporting the All Blacks. My father, grandfather and uncles are very passionate supporters, and it is very easy for new generations to continue this tradition because the All Blacks are a brilliant rugby team.

  “They are the Manchester United of rugby. They win consistently and they win in style. People love winners.”

  And older members of the Port Elizabeth community are in no hurry to convert their children to the green and gold because they feel that they have been left stranded by empty promises from the game’s governing body.

  “Rugby has died in the schools of the (poor) northern suburbs,” Felkers says.

  “And we have played rugby in this region forever. But we have no facilities. There has been no investment from Saru, no upliftment, and we feel let down.”

  Once more, in a brand new era, resentment of Saru has been channelled into supporting the Springboks’ opposition.

  “We have kids who want to play rugby but their parents cannot afford to send them to (white) schools such as Grey High. Those who stick it out have to come to our clubs,” he says.

  “In our suburbs we are crying out for sport to give our teenagers something to do to keep them away from drugs and crime. Rugby can do that, but it hasn’t because the system has let us down.”

  Saru’s flagship investment in the Eastern Cape is, of course, the Southern Kings, and bully to them for resurrecting top-flight rugby in the region, but for the less affluent rugby man on the ground this means diddly squat.

  It is a (potential) success story at the pinnacle of the rugby pyramid, but what about at the broad base?

  “Nothing has changed at grass roots,” says Felkers. “We don’t feel that Saru is engaging us. We don’t feel any affinity to Saru. We remain forgotten.”

  And all the while the All Blacks play exciting, invigorating rugby, and their fan base in South African grows by the day. ” }}

  These people have simply done as explained in the article what the CHAIRMAN advised all those years ago and that was to “PUT POLITICS in COMMAND”.

  Try honestly, anyone, to deny the FACTS in the article.

• 219.Michael:
  19 Aug 2011, 15:55 pm

  @Black Magic(Black Magic)-208: I will never accuse the Boks who take the pitch of lacking honour. Never. It would be wrong and cowardly of me.
  The administrators on the other hand are open targets.

• 220.cane:
  19 Aug 2011, 15:55 pm

  @Transformation(Transformation)-207:

  It’s the PINK TIE Transie.

  It has totally thrown my perspective of reality out the window.

• 221.we have it on good authority that on september 11, a legend will rise...:
  19 Aug 2011, 15:56 pm

  @ET.(ET.)-218:
  uhm…is the chairman mao?

• 222.Michael:
  19 Aug 2011, 15:57 pm

  @ET.(ET.)-218: Good article. The blame for the current debacle is SARU’s.

• 223.Tecumseh:
  19 Aug 2011, 15:57 pm

  A woman believed to be Chinese was abducted from a New Plymouth street and raped in broad daylight as kiwis looked on!
  Unless you are a South East Asian woman living in New Zealand, it’s probably hard to imagine how this could happen to you!

  But that’s exactly what happened to this victim. A 48-year-old woman believed to be Chinese was abducted from a New Plymouth street and raped in broad daylight Friday as kiwis looked on.

  [Perhaps she should consider herself "lucky" that none of the onlookers participated in the rape, or the Moderator would have been writing about yet another gangrape!]

  No one went to her rescue, or did anything to scare off the rapist. “Why should they, she was just a worthless Chinese half-human!”

• 224.Michael:
  19 Aug 2011, 15:58 pm

  @cane(cane)-220: Yes that tie, that godawful tie. It sucks the love out of life

• 225.Transformation:
  19 Aug 2011, 15:58 pm

  @Black Magic(Black Magic)-208: relax with the hyperbole of “death before dishonour” nonsense. the all blacks were beaten in 2009. the difference is your coaches admitted they were trying out new innovations and the execution thereof was not on point BUT they persevered.

  On the EOYT that same year, the All Black gameplan that GH, Smith & Hansen had been cooking was served piping hot on FRANCE (who had just handed the Boks their arses) in Marseiles, they ran in 5 tries winning the match 39 – 12.

  skip to 2010, saffas are still thinking skop & jag is the bizniz, while the all blacks know their gameplan is synch now unlike last year, plus their personel is healthy and they’ve sorted they lineout woes with a little innovation.

  1st game, Bang 30 points
  2nd game Bang 30 points
  3rd game Bang All Blacks break hearts as Soccer City

  in all this time, how has the Springbok gameplan evolved? not a scratch, coaches and people are still moaning that du preez wasn’t there etc.

  this has nothing to do with pride in a jersey as you would like to believe, it has everything with inept and unimaginative coaches in the whole SA Rugby fraternity.

• 226.Gunther:
  19 Aug 2011, 15:59 pm

  @Transformation(Transformation)-207:

  the jury is still out.

  he seems to be pulling himself back from the abyss

• 227.cane:
  19 Aug 2011, 15:59 pm

  Phoook NOOOOOOOO.

  Fernly goes and then …………..WTF.

  can it get any worse……….

  Yip.

  ET turns up.

  8)

• 228.Michael:
  19 Aug 2011, 16:01 pm

  @cane(cane)-227: It’s your lucky day

• 229.Black Magic:
  19 Aug 2011, 16:02 pm

  @Tecumseh(Tecumseh)-223:

  Isn’t this a rugby forum? What’s with this? You must be some FKD up weirdo to keep bringing up this sick s-hit. You been locked in a basement for a few years mammas boy?

• 230.Michael:
  19 Aug 2011, 16:02 pm

  @cane(cane)-227: All that’s needed is for Grant to turn up in speedos with a edgie for Smittie.

• 231.Hondo:
  19 Aug 2011, 16:02 pm

  Too much deceptions, scheming and a test ground planning are involved, it has no value really as a Test rugby.
  Sending a B team to play the Boks by NZ is unheard of prior to 2011.
  The hype is there, naturally but the emotions, the atmosphere and the thrill aren’t there anymore.
  Entertainment aplenty is there though,

• 232.Finfan:
  19 Aug 2011, 16:02 pm

  @cane(cane)-227: Bad news. Two dumbfcks on the thread now – ET and Tecumseh. I trust that they will have a go at each other and leave the rest in peace.

• 233.Michael:
  19 Aug 2011, 16:03 pm

  @Black Magic(Black Magic)-229: It’s the effect this forum has on the likes of him and Poppa.

• 234.Finfan:
  19 Aug 2011, 16:04 pm

  @cane(cane)-227: Oh dear and now Hondo too.

• 235.Black Magic:
  19 Aug 2011, 16:04 pm

  @cane(cane)-227:

  Think this Tecsickone tops them all, someone left the gate open at the fruit farm.

• 236.Finfan:
  19 Aug 2011, 16:05 pm

  @Black Magic(Black Magic)-235: Someone forgot to close the toilet seat.

• 237.cane:
  19 Aug 2011, 16:05 pm

  @Tecumseh(Tecumseh)-223:

  And how many rapes occur in your neck of the woods 2-Stroke?

  In NZ they get reported in the media.
  In NZ the Police will hunt the devils down, whatever it takes.

  If you don’t believe me ask any Saffa living here.

  What happens in your little shiiit hole?

  Happy now?

• 238.ET.:
  19 Aug 2011, 16:05 pm

  @cane(cane)-227:

  Always with the TRUTH which on this occassion since it involves your team should be endearing to you even.

  You probably have not even read the good message as you reflexly try to ‘kill’ the messenger.

  Or is it the embarrassment of how little you know of the real even present day S.A. that gets you to run from this TRUTH and thus the ExtraTerrestrial too?

• 239.Tecumseh:
  19 Aug 2011, 16:06 pm

  More foreigners are violently murdered or killed in New Zealand than in any other country with the exception of Iraq. Between Jan 1, 2000 and May 31, 2011 at least 2180 andthat doesn’t include the 450 gone missing and never been found.

  seems like this new plymouth newspaper is on a mission to expose or make a mockery of nz’s lily-white image .

• 240.OCO:
  19 Aug 2011, 16:06 pm

  @ET.(ET.)-218:

  Yup Facts are there to be seen.
  Begging Bowl mentality.
  We can’t because it’s not for free.
  Governments used to pay for sports facilities but now don’t because they spend the money on themselves.
  But the populace still vote them back in.
  Local facilities have steadily deteriorated.
  It’s unsafe outside and even inside one’s home in SA but the Government doesn’t supply armed guards for my house or give me an armour plated Merc to drive around in.
  Lots of Facts around if you look for them.

• 241.we have it on good authority that on september 11, a legend will rise...:
  19 Aug 2011, 16:07 pm

  @Michael(mikeybrass)-230:
  wont happen, he’s at newlands watching wp get rimmed (greek style) and for a bonus gets to have a huge hardon for elton…

• 242.Hondo:
  19 Aug 2011, 16:08 pm

  @ET.(ET.)-218:
  People can support whoever they choose to, it’s beyond me why does it even mentioned, let alone irking other people?

• 243.Tecumseh:
  19 Aug 2011, 16:08 pm

  @Black Magic(Black Magic)-229: CANE OPENED THE GATE SO IT’S JUST ANOTHER FREE FOR ALL.SORRY FOR THE CAPS

• 244.cane:
  19 Aug 2011, 16:09 pm

  @ET.(ET.)-238:

  My 227 was an embrace ET.

  A welcome.

  I remember the snowflake.
  I know you have a good heart.
  

• 245.we have it on good authority that on september 11, a legend will rise...:
  19 Aug 2011, 16:09 pm

  @Finfan(Finfan)-234:
  hehehehe
  thats three riders of the apocalypse so far…just need skop (skiet & donner) to come flying through for the fourth…..

• 246.ET.:
  19 Aug 2011, 16:09 pm

  @we have it on good authority that on september 11, a legend will rise…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-221:

  Your call, but still only the messenger. Be bold and take you own decisions and do not always just want answers to be fed to you as if you are paralytic drunk.

  Heed the message you black men. Put POLITICS in COMMAND and not your sick paper money that you truly worship.

• 247.Transformation:
  19 Aug 2011, 16:10 pm

  @cane(cane)-227: you must’ve done something good in your previous life 8)

• 248.Finfan:
  19 Aug 2011, 16:13 pm

  @we have it on good authority that on september 11, a legend will rise…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-245: At least ET is funny. He is trying so hard to be intelligent that no one can understand his posts, not even ET himself. Dumbest fcknut on Keo.

• 249.ET.:
  19 Aug 2011, 16:13 pm

  @cane(cane)-244:

  As someone who has been exposed as compromised your embrace is SICKLY, but I will now after your explanation accept it and will love you more iif your boys can do the business tomorrow.

  It iis as even you can now accept vitally important(that win) for these people who are still denied even rugby basics by the FAKE SARU.
  Remeber too it is CHEEKY country that.

• 250.Hondo:
  19 Aug 2011, 16:13 pm

  @cane(cane)-237:
  We don’t know,
  Not since they closed down the Rand Daily Mail (1988?) that used to publish the police report of the Weekend’s murders, rapes and hijaking in Soweto
  We don’t care either

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