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• 151.UptheGuts:
  23 Aug 2011, 11:55 am

  @poppa69(poppa69)-147: U should be tipping the Walabies mate. 3N’s and WC in the same year haven’t been done before, you know

• 152.poppa69:
  23 Aug 2011, 11:55 am

  @mshiniwami(mshiniwami)-148: have I ? please show me the specific post? Ive celebrated their decimation of both the Stormers and Sharks front rows… but I have never rated Afoa, and I agree about Woodcock.. but continue to formulate my opinion for me..

• 153.mshiniwami:
  23 Aug 2011, 11:57 am

  @mshiniwami(mshiniwami)-148:

  So what of the vaunted Saders frontrow? Coz they wont be at world cup in important matches

• 154.danuk:
  23 Aug 2011, 11:57 am

  @poppa69(poppa69)-140: Lol, where does the hate filled come from?

  However if you are going to say stuff which will piss-off boks supporters then take the comments you get on the chin.

  Nobody said this sight is full of objective neutral supports, just like the NZ websites, for example some nice objective insights from your countrymen about SA rugby:

  http://www.nzherald.co.nz:

  “It depends on whether you want to watch rugby or that garbage SA play. If you are happy to support a team that shows up once every four years and kicks their way to victory, good luck. I’d rather support a team that plays rugby week in and week out. Keep your World Cup, but maybe the name should not be William Webb Ellis because he was the guy who invented running with the ball.”

• 155.poppa69:
  23 Aug 2011, 11:59 am

  @UptheGuts(UptheGuts)-151: I honestly dont think the wallabies can win the WC? I believe theyll in all likelihood if they can keep the same squad practically go into 2015 as favourites… they are still a young team that is starting to fulfill their potential… anything can happen in a one off test match at the WC, but I believe they still lack composure through the spine of the team…

  they are weak at centre, number 8, front row and without Pocock in the loosie department… but its all imo only..

• 156.danuk:
  23 Aug 2011, 11:59 am

  @UptheGuts(UptheGuts)-141: lol, that’s the problem with having a squad full of 21 year olds!

• 157.mshiniwami:
  23 Aug 2011, 12:00 pm

  @poppa69(poppa69)-152:

  Whats the use of celebrating S15 decimation when at least in terms of AB’s that front row WONT be facing Boks at world cup if they meet.As Woodcock & Mealamu will be the ones fronting as was this past weekend?

• 158.we have it on good authority that on september 11, a legend will rise...:
  23 Aug 2011, 12:01 pm

  it would be a ‘low road’ strategy and it could work. and you guys are that sneaky ( i mean cheating, but in a nice way) i wouldnt put it past you.

• 159.poppa69:
  23 Aug 2011, 12:03 pm

  @mshiniwami(mshiniwami)-153: true, and the sharks front row will have much better locks behind them, but according to you Ive been saying the AB scrum will monster the Bokke scrum, when it couldnt be further from the truth..

  I am cionfident in the front row that will probably face the Bokkes (Franks, mealamu and Franks imo), but i have never claimed they will murder the Bokke scrum..

  got me confused with NZinChina?

• 160.danuk:
  23 Aug 2011, 12:03 pm

  @mshiniwami(mshiniwami)-148: Here’s a thought, maybe these AB players peaked a little early … mmm …

• 161.poppa69:
  23 Aug 2011, 12:06 pm

  @mshiniwami(mshiniwami)-157: and whats the use of celebrating a scrum domination against a team without 4 first regulars in the starting pack? or does that not somehow matter? I would have much preferred Crockett to be there, but he is susceptible to giving aweay penalties, and seeing as that will be SA’s main weapon of attack, why hand them points?

• 162.poppa69:
  23 Aug 2011, 12:08 pm

  @UptheGuts(UptheGuts)-151: have you noticed, since weve started talking rugby both Gunther and Katman have disappeared?

  strange huh?

• 163.mpundulu:
  23 Aug 2011, 12:09 pm

  From a NZ newspaper: Jerome Kaino was just 21 when he became an All Black — too early, he tells Alan Perrott. The rugby star talks about his struggle to cope with the pressures, including his drink-drive conviction, and looking forward to the tournament of his life.

  Tim Connolly was watching a sturdy pair of bookends when a wrecking ball caught his eye.

  As impressed as he was by the teenage rugby player, he kept his thoughts to himself. Who knew how the parents and coaching staff of the Papakura High School 1st XV would react to a poacher in their midst?

  Maybe they’d be more surprised than angry? After all their team was a perennial struggler and on this particular Saturday was coming a distant second to Aorere College.

  But Connolly saw gold in their defeat – as the newly-appointed coach of Saint Kentigern’s 1st XV it was a chance to keep pace with schoolboy rugby’s arms race. This was 1999 and, after the success of Graham Henry’s Kelston Boys’ sides, any Auckland school with ambitions of rugby glory was unashamedly dangling scholarships in front of the best raw talent from less well-off suburbs.

  On this occasion Connolly had turned up to check out the Afoa brothers, John and James, who were propping up the Papakura scrum. He knew their pedigree from his time coaching Counties’ youth sides – but it was a rangy Samoan kid playing at centre who grabbed his attention.

  Sure, he was a bit lax when turning to chase opposition kicks – much like Jonah Lomu in his early days – but that could be coached out of him.

  It was the natural speed and bone-crunching aggression that hinted at star quality.

  This was Connolly’s first glimpse of Jerome Kaino.

  Born on Tutuila, the main island in American Samoa, in 1983 and the third of six children, Kaino’s first home is dubbed “Football Island” because it has produced more professional gridiron players than anywhere else in the United States. If Kaino hadn’t come to New Zealand in 1987, following the lead of his father’s brother, his family reckons he would have ended up in the army.

  After settling in South Auckland, he began playing junior league for the Papakura Sea Eagles and turned to rugby at secondary school only so he could play with his new mates. Academically, not much was going on. He was almost marking time.

  “It’s not that I was a bad boy or anything,” he says. “I had the right friends and things like that, I just never focused that much on anything.”

  He and the Afoas had been mates since he was 12, so when Connolly convinced the brothers’ parents to send them to Saint Kentigern College, it was always likely their friend would tag along.

  Reunited as sixth formers the following year, the trio were joined by two more new recruits, Kieran Read (from Rosehill College) and Joe Rokocoko (from James Cook High School).

  If such blatant poaching angered the school’s southern rivals, as well as plenty of neutral observers, Connolly remains unrepentant.

  “I still don’t know if poaching is right or wrong,” he says. “But it went on in every rugby school I knew and morally I’ve got no issue with it when you consider what has happened to all those boys since.”

  Kaino was given a position in the Saint Kentigern forward pack.

  “He hadn’t filled out yet, but he was still a big boy and really destructive with it, so when the backs didn’t want him I threw him into number six straight away,” says Connolly. “The only problem was that we couldn’t lift him in the lineout, so he did the lifting instead.”

  With the Afoa brothers on board, Saint Kentigern finished fourth in the 1999 premier competition. Once Kaino and the others arrived the following year, they improved to second behind St Peters. Then in 2001, they beat King’s College in the final.

  Peter Milligan, one of the parents who watched every game, says Kaino stood out immediately. “My wife and I always said he was earmarked for bigger things and that if anyone in the team was going to be an All Black, it would be him. He could cut players in half, you’d hear the crunch from the sideline. You couldn’t help cringing.”

  Kaino’s growing reputation saw him recruited into Counties’ age-group rep sides, Auckland schoolboys and then the New Zealand schoolboys’ side on top of his 1st XV matches.

  As lifestyles go, it was already far from normal for the rising star.

  “It was kind of strange,” says Kaino. “Sometimes I do feel like I missed out on my youth. Like what my friends did.They’ve done their OEs, they’ve done the big parties and all the late nights, but from a young age, I’ve had to be pretty disciplined in what I do. I guess it’s what you have to do if you want to live your dream.”

  Even odd-jobbing became about rugby. When he wasn’t playing he was working at his aunt’s produce shop in the Otara shopping centre. It just so happened that the store was also part-owned by All Black prop Olo Brown and World Cup winning loosie, Michael Jones.

  It was from Jones that Kaino gained his playing credo: it is better to give than to receive.

  “I remember that everyone was very mindful at the time that he was a real star in the making,” says Jones. “I was very impressed with him. We had a few chats about the game and I remember he was a real sponge, he lapped everything up. He was also hugely respectful, your typical young Samoan, and I think he’s shown a lot of class in whatever he’s done ever since – which would suggest he’s making a really good fist of everything.”

  Then came 2004 and everyone’s expectations seemed to have been realised. Kaino was elevated to Auckland’s NPC team, appearing in every game, and he was named player of the tournament at the under-21 World Cup as well as IRB age grade player of the year. In November he was selected for the end-of-year All Black tour.

  This was heady stuff, and climaxed with his selection for the match against the Barbarians at Twickenham.

  “That was a really emotional time for me,” he says. “I never thought I would get the opportunity because I’d thought I was on tour mostly to get some experience of the All Black environment and learn the ropes. So when [captain] Richie [McCaw] handed me my first jersey, I was just stoked. That was something really special.”

  His performance was special as well. The man of the match not only rattled his former Auckland captain, Xavier Rush, and age-grade sparring partner Schalk Burger, he also made a goose of former Wallaby and Kangaroo Matt Rogers while scoring his first All Black try.

  But all was not as fantastic as it seemed.

  “It happened way too early for me,” admits Kaino now. “I was kind of selected on potential, and yeah, of course I was really happy to become an All Black. But then, the next year, I didn’t really show any substance to back it up … I guess everyone knew me after that tour and I was a bit of a marked man, but I hadn’t matured enough as a player to deal with it. I still needed to grow up a bit.”

  All the same, his potential saw him win his first test caps against Ireland in June 2006. Then he was dropped.

  It was a troubling time. Kaino had his first serious injuries to deal with, including a shoulder problem that required surgery, and his old focus issues were back with a vengeance.

  “I was only 21 when I was first selected and I was doing all the things that normal 21-year-olds do when I was supposed to be doing what 21-year-old All Blacks should be doing. My life outside rugby really wasn’t in line with what I did on the field and it took a while to get that together. I still managed to put in some good performances, but I realised pretty quickly that there was no way I’d get back in if I kept up my old lifestyle, my old mentality.”

  Instead of moping he tried using each mission as motivation to work harder. He had regular All Black six Jerry Collins in his way so he took on the hardman’s famous physicality and tried to take it a step further.

  Everything seemed back on track in 2008. His partner was pregnant and he was selected for the first two tests of the year.

  Then he almost self-destructed.

  On June 27, at 9am – the week before the opening Tri-nations test against South Africa – Kaino was involved in a nose-to-tail accident and failed a subsequent alcohol breath test. He not only had to appear in court, the NZRU was threatening a misconduct hearing.

  “That was a massive learning year for me, especially with that drink driving thing. It definitely hurt my family and forced me grow up a lot more. Mum and Dad had a few words for me as well, stuff like ‘it’s not what you’ve done, it’s how you come back from it’ and ‘make sure it doesn’t happen again, you’re a better person than that’.

  “That made me sit down and think about being an All Black and what I had to do to stay one, because the reality of being in the team is much better than I’d ever thought it would be. When I used to dream about it I only went as far as outfitting day – getting all that cool gear – but then, getting to live the lifestyle, having the team mates around me and the whole legacy of the jersey … it’s far exceeded my expectations.

  “So I used all of that as motivation for the next test. And with everything that was going on in the media, Graham Henry and all the coaching staff showed a lot of faith in selecting me. Getting out there and putting a performance in on the field was the only way I could pay them back.”

  In a tight match, Kaino scored the crucial second try and would have had another but for a crook offside call.

  And really, he hasn’t looked back since.

  “I’ve had so much that has happened in such a short time. But I think I’ve learned a lot and I now understand that as an All Black the spotlight is always on you. So I have to live a certain way and I have to be squeaky clean because a lot of people look up to us and kids look at us in a certain light. For me to appear in court was a real kick in the guts for them. So I keep myself busy looking after my daughter, Milan, and I go surfing with my brother-in-law.

  “There are times when being an All Black can get in the way, especially if I don’t play so well – people aren’t shy about letting you know – or if I want to take the family out to lunch, but on the whole it’s pretty good. I’ve only had a couple of nasty incidents. That’s when you have to bite your lip and walk away, reacting just isn’t worth it.”

  At 28, Kaino expects to keep playing until he’s 35. And with a family to look after he’s already thinking of life after rugby.

  He started a business diploma at AUT a few years back but dropped out. Now he’s thinking back on his aunt’s produce shop and considering following former All Blacks Eric Rush and Robin Brooke into the supermarket business.

  Such plans are on hold for now though. Everything is focused on getting to the World Cup, and his constant tugging on his shirt sleeves to get them past his large biceps shows he’s in fighting nick.

  He’s 1.96m of tattooed muscle and though he speaks softly his eyes flash when the tournament is mentioned.

  “Yeah, I’m excited … I’ve been looking forward to this for a long time, especially having it here at home. But I’m trying to stay relaxed and do what comes naturally. Whatever happens I have to make sure that when I walk on to the field I take the mana of being an All Black with me.

  “It’s a mentality that’s huge with us – when you put that jersey on you don’t take a step back, and when you’re surrounded by all the other guys in the team thinking the same way, that’s a powerful feeling to feed off.”

• 164.mshiniwami:
  23 Aug 2011, 12:13 pm

  @poppa69(poppa69)-159:

  Not sure about Franks/Mealamu/Franks combo,with Ben Franks covering 1/3 and Woodcock part of leadership group who Cron is fond off-I see them starting Woodcock and working him to full fitness as also Ben Franks changes bench selection dynamic.

  But being confident in your frontrow you should,its your country,your team.

  Well fair enough,dont think I have you confused with anyone but whoever is put out upfront of the A teams-it shall be interesting indeed.

• 165.UptheGuts:
  23 Aug 2011, 12:15 pm

  @poppa69(poppa69)-155: S15 not on the same level but the Reds showed enough composure to beat a virtual AB team bar a few players in the final. Make no mistake. The Wallabies can win it

  @danuk(danuk)-156: Yeah Deans must feel him having to deal with adolescents all over again!

  @mshiniwami(mshiniwami)-157: Yeah and by the same token he disregards the composure the Reds showed in the S15 final.

• 166.danuk:
  23 Aug 2011, 12:15 pm

  @mshiniwami(mshiniwami)-164: Question: Who would start as locks for the ABs? Brad Thorn and Whitelock?

• 167.danuk:
  23 Aug 2011, 12:19 pm

  I think the Wallabies don’t believe they can win against the ABs. Maybe if Ewen McKenzie was coach, because he is tactically better than Deans.

  The last game against the ABs the Aussies looked clueless, like they have no strategy to beat the ABs …

  ABs, so win comfortably before going into the RWC, 12 points plus …

• 168.poppa69:
  23 Aug 2011, 12:23 pm

  @mshiniwami(mshiniwami)-164: yeah, I can see your point re Woodcock, and agree he has struggled for quite some time… I just think with the inclusion of Afoa (who can play all three positions, none of them extremely well ) that the bench doesnt really become an issue because they have backup for either side… time will tell I guess… I think Ben franks offers more in the loose these days than Woodcock… even when fit Woody struggled in S15… I dont think we’ll see the Bok or the Abs dominate each other in scrums as much as we seen in the super comp…

  @UptheGuts(UptheGuts)-165: yeah, maybe… the Saders also had travelled a fair distance before that game, no excuse though, and had the opportunity to put it away with a simple pass from Thorn… full credit to the reds for that win, but I dont think the Saders were at their best that day, squandering a fair few opportunities…

• 169.Black Magic:
  23 Aug 2011, 12:23 pm

  @NoRugbyGuru_0_(RugbyGuru_0_)-6:

  It was very effective against a B team with untried combinations, at home when very desperate, …….and no try’s, hmmmmmmmm.

• 170.poppa69:
  23 Aug 2011, 12:27 pm

  i am disappointed Maitland wasnt EVEN given an opportunity this 3Ns…

  has electric pace, great game awareness and a good workload..

  think the selectors missed a real trick there…

• 171.mshiniwami:
  23 Aug 2011, 12:29 pm

  @danuk(danuk)-166:

  Thorn & Williams…Williams in as much as he isnt the player he used to be,he is hugely influencial especially psyche of the All Blacks.He is also better in the air than Whitelock,more experience and a harder grafter at collisions-great mongrel for a 5.Whitelock is a great athlete though.

  @danuk(danuk)-167:

  Henry OWNS Deans…13-1 record….And counting

  interesting fact…in 11 games between boks vs AB from 2008-2011

  Henry vs De Villiers
  6 to 5

• 172.mpundulu:
  23 Aug 2011, 12:33 pm

  @lapoftherugbygods(lapoftherugbygods)-146: I agree with the sentiment of poor backups for established if not exceptional players in a team but with there being more of a squad focus, therefore a need to build depth the no.10 and no.7 position should have been prioritized from early on. There’s no excuse to Nick Evans not being Carter’s backup, none, Smith and Henry should have made a big effort to get him back, he’s brilliant. When he was playing for the blacks, him and Carter were 1 and 2 best 10′s in the world.

• 173.mshiniwami:
  23 Aug 2011, 12:36 pm

  @poppa69(poppa69)-170:

  He seems not to be rated by Ab coaches who capped even Ranger ahead of him last year.

  He is a classic winger,finisher. But with so many options who were they going to leave out of 3N? Jane hadnt been in good form in S14 so they wanted to see what he could do,same with Sivi,Guilford is new blue eyed boy,Toeava versatitlity,Hosea has been best winger in2nd half of yr/ITM onwards for 3 years now and was great on EOYT etc Plus Ben Smith….Maitland was never going to make it

• 174.UptheGuts:
  23 Aug 2011, 12:39 pm

  @poppa69(poppa69)-168: All ***** that happens in a game of rugby mate. Probably the story of your dismal WC showing anyway. You have got to be on top of your game for the full duration and by the chance you have an off day, you must be willing to win ugly. You guys were squandering tries last week too. Unsettled combo’s?

• 175.UptheGuts:
  23 Aug 2011, 12:40 pm

  @poppa69(poppa69)-170: horse has well and truly bolted on that one pops but I totaly agree

• 176.mpundulu:
  23 Aug 2011, 12:42 pm

  @mshiniwami(mshiniwami)-171: Ali will start with Williams for sure, Ali irritated me a bit when he positioned himself as a key receiver in open play, slowed if not screwed up a whole movement. Especially when the ABs were 5 metres out from the Boks tryline, and he also gets isolated a lot does not hold his feet too well, perhaps a bit better than Matfield in that department.

  I’ve always said Deans is a dodgy Dingo, and he knows he has Wayne Smith to thank for his Super Series titles.

• 177.poppa69:
  23 Aug 2011, 12:44 pm

  Mish

  Jane was always going to be there, always lifts in the black jersey.

  Not sold on guilford, good player but still have my doubts. I think Sivi is past it myself, doesn’t score many tries vs decent opposition these days.

  I believe they have picked the wings who are safe under the highball, hence Sivi and Gear not making it. both susceptible in this department, where those chosen are very competent in this regard.

  think we lack an out and out finisher, hence my disappointment.

• 178.UptheGuts:
  23 Aug 2011, 12:44 pm

  @mpundulu(mpundulu)-176: Ali starts with Williams?

• 179.UptheGuts:
  23 Aug 2011, 12:47 pm

  @poppa69(poppa69)-177: Guildford is no better than Gear under the highball and by my account he did pretty good taking all kicks put up on his wing. I actualy thought because of it he’ll crack the nod, given his other attributes

• 180.poppa69:
  23 Aug 2011, 12:49 pm

  @174

  yeah understand that fully. teams always seem to find that bit extra when playing us at WCs. hence why IMO they have gone with so much experience (bar three or so players).

  I think Carters droppie against Aussie shows they may be working on that aspect, and believe myself that they have over the last two years shown they are capable of playing this way.

  time will tell of course.

• 181.Guns:
  23 Aug 2011, 12:50 pm

  @NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-9:

  Absolute horse dung. Bok Rugby went down the minute JW left although P’Diddy just made it slower by milking an old system. The Boks play based on the current game plan introduced by Jake White years ago because the current Quota coach is absolutely useless. I would like to see the ALL Blacks would fare under an SA ANC government or simply with NO coach. Im not sure which is worse, probably better off with no coach..

  Super 15 top 10 overall Team Offensive Stats 2011
  (SA 5 Teams, Auz 3, Kiwi 2)
  Home Away Total
  1 Crusaders 238 198 436
  2 Cheetahs 263 172 435
  3 Queensland Reds 241 188 429
  4 Bulls 239 177 416
  5 Sharks 206 201 407
  6 Blues 235 170 405
  7 Stormers 177 223 400
  8 Waratahs 207 191 398
  9 Lions 190 161 351
  10 Western Force 152 181 333

• 182.poppa69:
  23 Aug 2011, 12:55 pm

  @UptheGuts(UptheGuts)-179: gear doesnt seem to reproduce the blockbusting runs in tests that he does in Super rugby… but agree that Guilfords other attributes lifts him above gear… I would say it is based on pace and workload more than anything else…

• 183.Black Magic:
  23 Aug 2011, 13:10 pm

  @poppa69(poppa69)-170:

  Maitlands day will come. Still a boy and we are over loaded with wingers, in a year or 2 he will be an AB sensation

• 184.poppa69:
  23 Aug 2011, 13:13 pm

  @Black Magic(Black Magic)-183: showed great form in the Super comp… but agree, just think he should have been brought into the squad, would hate for him to think he isnt good enough to crack the squad then lose him on an overseas sojourn before he gets the chance…

• 185.we have it on good authority that on september 11, a legend will rise...:
  23 Aug 2011, 13:27 pm

  @mshiniwami(mshiniwami)-171:
  thats because deans is a manchurian candidate.

• 186.stew:
  23 Aug 2011, 13:29 pm

  @Slumtown(Slumtown)-89</I also dont think Richie is as influential as he once was. if the breakdown gets policed properly at the WC he´s going to struggle to impose himself…….. You guys have been saying this for years , when will you guys learn that the King of Opensides always imposes himself !!!!!

  This will be the final run for the Legend – long live king Richie

• 187.NZINCHINA:
  23 Aug 2011, 13:42 pm

  @Guns(Guns)-181:

  Ok then tell me the last time the Bokke backs scored a great try against quality opposition?

• 188.Gunther:
  23 Aug 2011, 13:47 pm

  @NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-187:

  all out tries are quality.

  unlike yours which are mostly touchdowns.

  hut hut..

  blue 42.

  blue 42.

• 189.stew:
  23 Aug 2011, 13:51 pm

  @NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-187: British Lions 2009 – Jacque Fourie – scary !!!!

• 190.NZINCHINA:
  23 Aug 2011, 13:52 pm

  @Gunther(gunther)-188:

  Sure tell us the last time though?

• 191.NZINCHINA:
  23 Aug 2011, 13:57 pm

  @stew(stew)-189:

  I said quality opposition.

• 192.Gunther:
  23 Aug 2011, 13:59 pm

  @NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-190:

  I just told you my chinakins.

  Unlike you we don’t award tries bonus points for artistic interpretation.

  this is rugby not ice skating.

  A try is a try and we like our passes backward not forward and we don’t appreciate the art of running interference on tacklers when returning kicks.

  Pretty simple no?

  But don’t worry your boys are awesome and will surely tear us a new one.

  Especially up front.

  Look and learn boys.

• 193.NZINCHINA:
  23 Aug 2011, 14:01 pm

  @Gunther(gunther)-192:

  Ok funny guy we’ll let somebody else tell us, mate you try a little too hard with the humour sometimes.

• 194.poppa69:
  23 Aug 2011, 14:06 pm

  @NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-191: youd be better pressed getting a rugby answer from a tibetan monk…

  such is Gunthers “knowledge” .. all cheap insults and no substance…

  but you knew that right?

• 195.Gunther:
  23 Aug 2011, 14:07 pm

  @NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-193:

  that’s quite rich coming from you.

  everything I sad was true no?

  why don’t you tell us since you are obviously desperate to get something off your chest.

  you clearly have an opinion on the matter no?

  or are you just bitching?

• 196.Gunther:
  23 Aug 2011, 14:10 pm

  @poppa69(poppa69)-194:

  here we go.

  are bonus points added for “great” tries.

  and who decides if they are great?

  your gatgabba in china?

  no pal that’s not how it works.

  if you want a rugby lesson just ask.

  and no more racist bullshit from you about tibetian monks.

• 197.poppa69:
  23 Aug 2011, 14:12 pm

  @Gunther(gunther)-196: I see youve still avoided the original question, I’ll repost it for you, scholar.

  tell me the last time the Bokke backs scored a great try against quality opposition?????

• 198.Helen:
  23 Aug 2011, 14:16 pm

  @NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-187: We don’t have to score tries to win matches…. when was the last time a AB team could claim that??

• 199.ashampoopaloo:
  23 Aug 2011, 14:16 pm

  Henry missed a BIG trick here Wyatt Crockett should have been one the first names in his squad, also leaving out Gear and Sivi is a BIG call, suddenly AB’s don’t look half as menacing as previously thought.

• 200.Helen:
  23 Aug 2011, 14:18 pm

  Unfortunately, the Kiwis are still stuck in the whole ‘bonus-points’ mentality of S15. Sadly (for you) that will not overcome your choking habit

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