The squad you won’t see

The squad you won’t see

23 Aug 2011

We’ve told you who is likely to make the Springboks World Cup squad, now keo.co.za’s writers pick their preferred 30 as well as their match 22 for the opener against Wales.

KEO’S WORLD CUP SQUAD - Keo believes his squad is so good it needs no elaboration. He picks Johann Sadie and Schalk Brits, while forgotten man Joe van Niekerk makes a shock return from Toulon. Bryan Habana makes his squad, but only as the world’s most decorated tackle bag holder.

Backs (14): Frans Steyn, Pat Lambie, Gio Aplon, Bryan Habana, JP Pietersen, Johann Sadie, Jaque Fourie, Jean de Villiers, Juan de Jongh, Butch James, Morne Steyn, Ruan Pienaar, Francois Hougaard, Fourie du Preez.

Forwards: (16): Pierre Spies, Joe van Niekerk, Schalk Burger, Heinrich Brüssow, Willem Alberts, Danie Rossouw, Victor Matfield, Bakkies Botha, Johann Muller, Jannie du Plessis, Beast Mtawarira, Gürthro Steenkamp, CJ van der Linde, John Smit (c), Bismarck du Plessis, Schalk Brits.

Keo’s 22 to face Wales - 15 Frans Steyn, 14 Gio Aplon, 13 Jaque Fourie, 12 Jean de Villiers, 11 Francois Hougaard, 10 Butch James, 9 Fourie du Preez, 8 Pierre Spies, 7 Schalk Burger, 6 Heinrich Brüssow, 5 Victor Matfield, 4 Bakkies Botha, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 John Smit (c), 1 Beast Mtawarira.
Subs: 16 Bismarck du Plessis, 17 CJ van der Linde, 18 Danie Rossouw, 19 Willem Alberts, 20 Schalk Brits, 21 Juan de Jongh, 22 Pat Lambie.

JC’S WORLD CUP SQUAD JC cuts John Smit and picks Schalk Brits. Lwazi Mvovo gets handed a ticket to New Zealand and Bryan Habana has to watch from the stands.

Backs (14): Fourie du Preez, Ruan Pienaar, Butch James, Morne Steyn, Pat Lambie, Jean de Villiers, Jaque Fourie, Juan de Jongh, Francois Hougaard, JP Pietersen, Bryan Habana, Lwazi Mvovo, Frans Steyn, Gio Aplon.

Forwards (16): Beast Mtawarira, Gurthro Steenkamp, Jannie du Plessis, CJ van der Linde, Bismarck du Plessis, Chiliboy Ralepelle, Schalk Brits, Victor Matfield (c), Bakkies Botha, Danie Rossouw, Johann Muller, Heinrich Brussow, Willem Alberts, Schalk Burger, Pierre Spies, Francois Louw.

JC’s 22 to face Wales: 15 Frans Steyn, 15 JP Pietersen, 13 Jaque Fourie, 12 Jean de Villiers, 11 Francois Hougaard, 10 Butch James, 9 Fourie du Preez, 8 Schalk Burger, 7 Willem Alberts, 6 Heinrich Brussow, 5 Victor Matfield (c), 4 Bakkies Botha, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Beast Mtawarira.
16 Chiliboy Ralepelle, 17 CJ van der Linde, 18 Danie Rossouw, 19 Pierre Spies, 20 Ruan Pienaar, 21 Juan de Jongh, 22 Gio Aplon.

VREDE’S WORLD CUP SQUAD Simple for Vrede really, no place for Smit in the squad (Victor Matfield gets the captaincy) and Bryan Habana is relegated to the bench for the Test against Wales. Schalk Brits cracks the nod, as does Johann Sadie. Francois Louw is in as cover for Heinrich Brüssow.

Backs (14): Frans Steyn, Patrick Lambie, Gio Aplon, Bryan Habana, JP Pietersen, Johann Sadie, Jaque Fourie, Jean de Villiers, Juan de Jongh, Butch James, Morne Steyn, Ruan Pienaar, Francois Hougaard, Fourie du Preez.

Forwards (16): Pierre Spies, Francois Louw, Schalk Burger, Heinrich Brüssow, Willem Alberts, Danie Rossouw, Victor Matfield (c), Bakkies Botha, Johann Muller, Jannie du Plessis, Beast Mtawarira, Gürthro Steenkamp, CJ van der Linde, Chiliboy Ralepelle, Bismarck du Plessis, Schalk Brits.

Vrede’s 22 to face Wales - 15 Frans Steyn, 14 Gio Aplon, 13 Jacque Fourie, 12 Jean de Villiers, 11 Francois Hougaard, 10 Butch James, 9 Fourie du Preez, 8 Pierre Spies, 7 Schalk Burger, 6 Heinrich Brüssow, 5 Victor Matfield (c), 4 Bakkies Botha, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Beast Mtawarira.
Subs: 16 Schalk Brits, 17 CJ van der Linde, 18 Danie Rossouw, 19 Willem Alberts, 20 Ruan Pienaar, 21 Juan de Jongh, 22 Bryan Habana.


956 Comments

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  • 901.President_of_the_Sharks_rugby_experts: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 20:20 pm

    @stormersboy(stormersboy)-896: hehehehee

  • 902.NoRugbyGuru_0_: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 20:20 pm

    John smit last and least :-)

  • 903.sparticus: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 20:20 pm

    The cups look silly. The guys looks like police academy. Oh and for the haters Jake never beat NZ 3 times ina year etc etc

  • 904.Tecumseh: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 20:20 pm

    the new tiger in?

  • 905.RL: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 20:20 pm

    @Dawn(Dawn)-898: no Stegmann isn’t

  • 906.HHS: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 20:20 pm

    WTF is Div saying that has not being said already to the boys? Hoskins can do with a PK just to “skrik wakker”.

  • 907.wooden spoon: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 20:21 pm

    Oh and for the haters JW never lost to Aus at home.

  • 908.HHS: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 20:21 pm

    @sparticus(sparticus)-903: Is Hoskins putting cup in their pants? :D

  • 909.Great White Shark: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 20:22 pm

    Smit at 2???? Gobsmacked.

    Bismarck to start AND stay on for the full 80. Smit to be used in the smaller games as a sub.

    Matfield as captain…only because we seem to win when he does. Odd.

    No Habana. He is unfortunately a liability in defence.

    The bigger midfields of England, Wales and the All Blacks are going to kak all over Aplon. He is just too small.

    Morne Steyn for the bigger games and Butch for the smaller games.

  • 910.President_of_the_Sharks_rugby_experts: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 20:22 pm

    titty is gonna be guttered , no steggies lol

  • 911.Harder-Faster: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 20:22 pm

    @Mike H(Mike H)-891: Hougaard. Brussouw. M Steyn. F Steyn. All game breakers. Even Lambie.

  • 912.Dawn: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 20:23 pm

    I am not impressed

  • 913.Gunther: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 20:24 pm

    Barneyyyyyyyyyy.

    That’s going to upset Antiforum.

  • 914.stormersboy: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 20:24 pm

    The best squad we can put out there IMO.

    There’s no one I would have picked that isn’t there,

    Muller in at 5 possibly the weakest compromise as Bekker is out, but ther rest will pretty much be the business.

  • 915.President_of_the_Sharks_rugby_experts: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 20:24 pm

    @Dawn(Dawn)-912: :lol:

  • 916.President_of_the_Sharks_rugby_experts: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 20:25 pm

    well exactly as expect bar 1 player

    i posted this this morning, only i had AJ in and not Flow

  • 917.President_of_the_Sharks_rugby_experts: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 20:26 pm

    @Gunther(gunther)-913: :lol:

  • 918.NoRugbyGuru_0_: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 20:28 pm

    No vermeulen :-(

  • 919.President_of_the_Sharks_rugby_experts: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 20:28 pm

    @President_of_the_Sharks_rugby_experts(sharks_lover)-916: my apologies, also had Mvovo in place of Odwa

  • 920.David: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 20:28 pm

    @Harder-Faster(Harder-Faster)-911:
    Frans a game breaker?

  • 921.sparticus: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 20:29 pm

    Mike H. Ok bud. I agree though. Jake did very well and the discipline and structure he installed back then is still very apparent today. I think u forget we have players like hourgard and aplon still. That’s if they get a chance. Also Jaque Fourie must be the worlds best outsiide centre going into the WC.

    @ dawn the only player smaller than pdv is luke watson…..lol speel maa net

  • 922.Dawn: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 20:29 pm

    O vok is alweer Ard

  • 923.NoRugbyGuru_0_: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 20:30 pm

    No surprises, damn good squad! This clown ffucked the song up hahahaha! Ffucking leprechaun :-) he’s worst than that rasta hahahahaha :-)

  • 924.Gunther: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 20:31 pm

    Ard what a chop.

    You are worse than Rhas.

  • 925.HHS: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 20:31 pm

    @Dawn(Dawn)-922: What a nice place to have your Idol audition. Dammit he blows….

  • 926.zambok: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 20:31 pm

    Most boring world cup announcement ever I can’t Odwa made it otherwise game breakers sit with lambie Hougaard bizmark brousouw , strategy and tactics with matfield Fdp morne & game closers morne frans but no xfactors

  • 927.Dawn: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 20:32 pm

    Embraboer! Is that ras dumisane reincarnated?

  • 928.NoRugbyGuru_0_: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 20:32 pm

    Ard is now **** :-)

  • 929.zambok: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 20:33 pm

    Great team besides Odwa now they must pull a finger and win

  • 930.NoRugbyGuru_0_: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 20:34 pm

    Ard is now f.art :-)

  • 931.Dawn: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 20:35 pm

    Please Ard don’t go sing our anthem in NZ please

  • 932.NoRugbyGuru_0_: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 20:36 pm

    What happened to keo’s surprise selections? He then had it on good authority :-)

  • 933.Dawn: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 20:37 pm

    What. No josh strauss?

  • 934.Robzim: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 20:38 pm

    @Gunther(gunther)-924:

    Heard of Just Jinger?

  • 935.Robzim: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 20:41 pm

    Seems we got a number of Bles Bridges fans on this site

  • 936.Harder-Faster: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 20:44 pm

    @David(David)-920: 3 kicks from inside his own half in NZ? 50m drop-goals? Could break a semi-final don’t ya think?

  • 937.Slappes: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 20:45 pm

    Evening all, and Lol @ Robzim! I’m happy for Flo but Odwa???

  • 938.Puma: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 20:49 pm

    No real surprises there except Flouw. Really that was a bloody stab in the back to Deysel. Sorry but it is. How some players could put their bodies on the line down under for the top Boks training in Rustenburg and Flo is overseas getting paid by his club and gets selected is beyond me. If Deysel never made it then it SHOULD have been Johnson, but NOT Flo. Jeepers that a sure bloody slap in the face from the coaches to those players.

    Odwa was a bit of a surprise too. Though Mvovo would have made it also not to be. But Odwa has experience and is a solid player.

  • 939.Puma: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 20:52 pm

    Flo played no part at all in the Tri-Nations but gets selected. Damn feel for Deysel. Was out top Player on the away tour.

  • 940.Puma: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 20:54 pm

    In future NO players playing overseas should get selected NONE. They come back home only to be out of shape and totally behind our standards.

    Anyhow that is our team we now must get behind them.

    Pleased to see the new comers getting their wc cap. Lambie, JdJ, Brussow, Aplon and Beast. What a pleasure to see them there.

  • 941.Great White Shark: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 20:57 pm

    @Puma(Puma)-940:

    Have you seen the bruisers in the England side? Lets hope we don’t meet them. Aplon and Ndungane are going to get their skinny arses handed to them.

  • 942.David: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 21:01 pm

    @Harder-Faster(Harder-Faster)-936:
    Could, is the operative word. Personally, I don’t feel that 3 points out of 3 or 4 attempts can qualify him as a game breaker.

  • 943.David: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 21:07 pm

    @Puma(Puma)-939:
    Come on, Flo wasn’t selected for the 3N and most of us reckoned that he’d been hard done by after being unceremoniously dropped long before that. How can you call it a back stabbing for Deysel. Flo offers options at 6 and 7 as well as forming a great partnership with Schalk.

  • 944.zambok: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 21:17 pm

    Let games begin I predict france will live up to their best when they meet new Zealand I c drama unfolding in that pool match

  • 945.Great White Shark: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 21:18 pm

    Need a few more Sharks in there to prop up the Bulls. The centres can stay and Brussouw of course….until he is bought by The Sharks….then it’s all evened out again.

  • 946.Puma: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 21:19 pm

    @David(David)-943: Deysel can cover 7 and 6 as well David. Where was Flo on the away tour? Coaches just bluffed the players that they could still get selected. They knew which players they were gonna select. So the rest only went down under to put their bodies on the line against a powerful AB side and Aussie side, so the top boks could train in Rustenburg. They were never ever going to be selected. They were used and that was it.

    Deysel sure as heck fell for it cause he played brilliant rugby. Just to get snubbed. He was our best Bok on tour.

    Now how much time has Flo trained with these Boks? He has plenty catch up to do I think.

    Just hate it when players get told nonsense.

  • 947.Puma: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 21:23 pm

    @Great White Shark(Predawn)-941: Think Aplon and Odwa will play the pool games and probably not against the top sides. Probably against Nambia.

    Aplon is a gutsy player. Have plenty respect for him but can’t see him replace JPP on the wing or Fransie or Lambie at fb. Odwa was solid in SuperRugby. But thought Mvovo might have got the nod.

    Anyhow feel very disappointed for Deysel.

  • 948.Puma: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 21:24 pm

    Okay see we on the wrong thread here. Just stayed logged on this thread when I watched the announcement and answered here.

  • 949.whatever: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 21:31 pm

    @Helen(Helen)-395:

    Muir, no way……… he’s worse than Hellium FFS

  • 950.Great White Shark: Reply to this comment
    23 Aug 2011, 21:40 pm

    Deysel was unlucky bru. Looks like the HH is going for big solid defenders up front so chances are he is predictably following in Jake White’s path for this RWC. Maybe he was convinced Deysel gets injured too often.

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