Mujati: Saffas called me a ‘baboon’
27 Aug 2011
Brian Mujati has accused Steven Sykes and Heinke van der Merwe of making racist remarks about him during Leinster’s loss to Northampton on Friday night.
The Zimbabwean-born Springbok prop made the allegations on Twitter on Saturday morning.
‘Steven Sykes and Heinke van der Merwe were calling me a baboon during the scrums last night. Racism is still alive and things don’t change. I was shocked by how how blatant they were being and to think I actually thought I knew Heinke from back in the Lions days.
‘The guy then tries to shake my hand after the game. Naturally I kindly told him to f**k off. I wish them all the best with their careers.’
Leinster issued a statement shortly afterwards.
‘Following allegations made by a Northampton Saints player this morning via his personal Twitter account, Leinster Rugby are holding a full internal investigation. The managements of both teams are in close communication and hopefully the matter will be resolved as soon as possible.
‘No further comment will be made at this time until that resolution has been reached.’
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28 Aug 2011, 01:51 am
@Tecumseh(Tecumseh)-199:
@Transformation(Transformation)-195:
You sound like a bigoted hypoctite dude? Did you call Transie that?
If so, you should shut the f uk up cause you don’t have any cred.
28 Aug 2011, 01:54 am
@Tecumseh(Tecumseh)-199: My wife calls me a ******, but I still love her. That is what I said. Accusations have been made by a player. Are they guilty? I dont know. If they are, they should get punished (for about the 5th time tonight). Was anything else said? I dont know. No one got hurt or died. Did I say anything wrong. No. I did not. I said what I said and I need not explain it to anyone. I have nothing to hide. Unlike you VALKYRIE?
28 Aug 2011, 01:55 am
@whatever(whatever)-201: I think he did. He called you and Skop the same things. Remember Topaz? Now Tecumseh. Before Valkyrie.
28 Aug 2011, 01:57 am
Time for bed. Sleep well decent people. Think about your sins Valkyrie (Topaz/Tecumseh)
28 Aug 2011, 01:59 am
@TheAgent(TheAgent)-203:
Ok, gotcha now
The R word tends to be flung around at some bloggers for no reason here, but this means that Tecumseh has been exposed as a hypocritical rasict of the highest order……..
28 Aug 2011, 02:02 am
@whatever(whatever)-205: Exactly. I’m not Agent for nothing. But, to be honest, it was so easy to figure this joker out. What I dont understand is why go through all the trouble to use different email accounts the whole time to change your name?
28 Aug 2011, 02:03 am
@whatever(whatever)-205: Good night. Have a good one.
28 Aug 2011, 02:07 am
@TheAgent(TheAgent)-207:
Cheers boet
28 Aug 2011, 02:14 am
@whatever(whatever)-201: WHAT IS A HYPOCTITE?i might take you seriously if you can show that you are not mentally challenged.
28 Aug 2011, 02:27 am
@whatever(whatever)-205: didn’t blackpanther called you bottomfeeding-pondlife racist scum?enough said.
28 Aug 2011, 02:51 am
I hate Sykes. Worst lock since Muller. He’s got a face that you just won’t to repeatedly stomp on.
28 Aug 2011, 03:05 am
@Tecumseh(Tecumseh)-209:
It’s a hypocrite that is a Ti t
Just look in the mirror and you will see what I’m talking about!
28 Aug 2011, 03:22 am
whatever has been shown-up as a person of limited mental abilities.there is no pille for these condiions so i see dark days ahead for this bottomfeeding -pondlife scum.
28 Aug 2011, 03:36 am
@Tecumseh(Tecumseh)-213:
ho hum………..blah blah
I’ve asked you before to try be original
Not possible it would appear……..shame
28 Aug 2011, 04:48 am
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-155:
Their clamming up now when previously they willingly spoke to you may well be as a result of an instruction from someone legally informed.
This may be because of the expected official procedure the union must now follow or because one or more members of one party(SRC) needed medical attention and now legal proceedings are to be invoked by said party against the other.
Please be aware all this is mere speculation on my part.
I feel strongly though some legal proceedings will be instituted.
28 Aug 2011, 05:06 am
Oh! What drama in and around post 166.
Is this what the Bard meant when he referred to maudlin sentimentality?
Does it require one to be ‘groused-up’ to suddenly realise at 11mins. after 11pm. on a Sat. night that one is, wrongly it seems, a neglected “victim”?
Also what a baby wailing was that and no one was even taunting the pitiful one.
If you have no self-respect, no self-worth, little or no dignity then you will always walk in someone’s shadow and feel the victim of situations you cannot even define (like here and now on this topic).
The one from Troy bloodied you at the crack of dawn into submission and hiding.
28 Aug 2011, 05:13 am
The name ” pocahontas” sounds generally so animalistic.
Specifically it crudely suggests cruelty to an animal ; ‘ poke ‘n hond ‘.
It is a super-sensitive world we live in ; we cannot even call Tree a mon key, yet she loves them so much she knows their language better than any she learnt at Waterford.
28 Aug 2011, 08:01 am
It is the victim mentallity of some that gives certain words power. Call me a dutcie, rockspider, boer etc any day. Who cares, it is only words. Hell even old Dawnie calls me a twat when she just sees my name on here. Maybe she just needs her bokkom moisturised.
28 Aug 2011, 08:58 am
@Sannie Bill Who??iams(Xkreni-WP)-218:
Wow! So it’s a victim mentality if one takes offence to being called a k*ffir? After all, it’s just a word, right? Amazing
28 Aug 2011, 09:34 am
@ET.(ET.)-215:
I did consider that, and fair enough. And I am no lawyer either.
But I would have imagined that if someone accuses you, or allege something in the media you would be more than happy to confirm or deny that even if the matter is now in the hands of lawyers.
But nothing, not a ‘it’s rubbish, or we cannot discuss this in public anymore’.
But perhaps I am wrong.
I am sure we will hear about the outcome soon.
28 Aug 2011, 10:23 am
We all ******* !!!!!
28 Aug 2011, 11:33 am
ET. As much as you try your insults and attempts to demean me are meaningless.
You can’t take away who or what I am.
There are bigger things in the world to be concerned about than your little vendetta.
28 Aug 2011, 12:47 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-222: hello pocahontas
28 Aug 2011, 13:49 pm
Poke a dog?
28 Aug 2011, 13:53 pm
poor ****** ….
28 Aug 2011, 13:53 pm
poor ba boon
28 Aug 2011, 16:21 pm
@Melchizedek(Melchizedek)-219:
Yes Mel cheesie deck, that is what I am saying. Dont give the word and the one using it the power.
The AA’s in the states have it spot on. They call themselves and each other niggaz so the word loses its power to the rest of society.
Just dont call me a weepee supporter……..
28 Aug 2011, 19:02 pm
Ah, now the other side of the story emerges in the British papers.
Sykes and vd Merwe state that they have a scrum call named “bobbejaan” which is a code to go for a particular type of scrum.
So they call out “bobbejaan”and Mujati takes offense at it.
Sounds like the old chip on the shoulder mentality on Mujati’s side.
Maybe they insulted him all game because he is just a pratt, but when they went for the scrum call “bobbejaan” he oversensitively took it as a continuation of the earlier insults directed at him.
Shame.
28 Aug 2011, 19:11 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-228: en DAAR val die arme rasistiese bobbejane hier met al hulle masjienwapens gelaai vir witpens bloed in hulle moere in .. n mens kan maar sien mos wie is eintik Wie in die vals skandalike oorlog.
28 Aug 2011, 20:05 pm
http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/TriNations/Sponsor-sorry-racist-picture-20110828
blacks need to get over themselves, this article is ridiculous. When I saw these guys on Sat I thought – hey that’s cool – ! [similar to Amla or Josh Struass beards..]
28 Aug 2011, 21:09 pm
I agree blacks need to get over themselves and get even. stop giving in saying some white guy said this and that they must gooi in back the medicine straight back at the laager boys thats what the wallabies did yday to beat superiority complex of the all blacks
28 Aug 2011, 22:51 pm
From a rugby perspective, I would remark that Heinke is a lazy, overrated plonker who was passably good at scrumming and useless at everything else. Sykes is a fairly good Currie Cup player and nothing more. Mujati is a scrumming monster and very athletic in the tight-loose as well. It’s a huge pity he has thrown his lot in with the Pom club scene, and clearly feels no loyalty to the Bok jersey whatsoever. We could really have used him rather than CJ at the World Cup.
28 Aug 2011, 23:25 pm
I see Mujati removed his accusation from his Twitter account.
29 Aug 2011, 04:59 am
Is the “victim” role oof the groused-out one really continueing another day in post 222?
“bigger things” ?
The size of a rotten , Cape guava in a wet winter?
” in the world to be concerned about ” ?
Your “world” all of no more than 34km radius? You go get them girlie!
” little vendetta ”
Oh how you dream it is just that as you would then have some validation of your utterly miserable existence. I am not even considering giving you cyber validation. If I respond to more than 1 in 50 of you inanae drivel , then it is a
” vendetta ” but the stats to support that fall miserably short.
‘ Jy lewe aspris ‘.
Seems that to get some meaning you have self-appointed to a role of an unwanted, unofficial cheerleader of my just as unwanted reading fan club that laps up every printed word of the club guru( there is not a day you do not type E.T.)
For the lot of you that is actually not a bad education in non-racial sports (and more), medical science, medicine, science in general, radical but diignified politics , honesty, truth, facts, logic and lots, lots more. Absorb it all.
When you read my edicts you are supposed to digest and shut up as any comments based on those enunciations are boring and a total waste of time.
There is no discourse. There is only mocking of stupid, thumb sucks serving only as paper straws in a hurricane; worthless.
29 Aug 2011, 05:19 am
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-228: @ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-229:
By good golly, look at the true racists jig around the pole in desperate search of a straw to grab at in a hurricane of Irene proportions.
It was the first pre-season game geared to bring on fitness and more for the new season.
In a Europe where the campaign of “Say No To Racism” has been in fullswing for years now because of racists imitating bab oon gesticulations and sounds and directing them at black players, which European coach will deliberately and callously allow racist S.A. players to name a ‘scrum’ move bobbe jaan?
Leinster which has a documented racist history (2002) may well support these fools because to do otherwise and earn them a serious ban means lots of money being lost. So a deal is not farfetched at all in Ireland.
29 Aug 2011, 05:24 am
Not even that W.Tv l ‘boer’ Gert Smal is known to have introduced such vile racist calls at the national team of Ireland and he has been there for years already while Sykes arrived weeks ago.
Are Sykes and Van der Merwe so influential and based on what achievments?
29 Aug 2011, 05:38 am
Foul-mouthed, racist, eye-wateringly unpleasant…
Danger rivalry will become more poisonous
GERRY THORNLEY
ON RUGBY: The popularity of the Leinster v Munster fixture has led to excessive antipathy between the two sets of supporters
IT WAS in December 2001, in the inaugural Celtic League final, that the Leinster-Munster rivalry reached a new level. Unexpectedly, more than 30,000 turned up at Lansdowne Road on the second last Saturday before Christmas and saw an epic contest in which a 14-man Leinster achieved an unlikely 24-20 comeback win to claim the trophy. In the context of the professional era, perhaps that was the day the fixture came of age.
However, for much of the ensuing years, it was as if Eddie O’Sullivan and the IRFU were doing their damndest to play down the fixture’s intensity. Leinster-Munster games were invariably pencilled in for weekends when many of the Irish front-liners would be unavailable. All the while, though, the rivalry bubbled away under the surface, and exploded into life again in the 2005-06 campaign with a couple of compelling league meetings and the first of those Heineken Cup semi-finals.
There’s hardly been a dull encounter since and last season the pair of them laid on another European semi-final for the benefit of a world-record attendance for a non-Test match. It is the fixture which showcases Irish rugby talent more than any other and has perhaps defined a golden era more than any other.
They have been good for each other as well as Irish rugby, each demanding more of the other. Leinster saw things in Munster they aspired to emulate and vice versa. Between them, they have won three of the last four Heineken Cups and backboned last season’s first Grand Slam in 61 years.
An inevitable by-product of their success and rivalry has been to broaden each province’s fan base, which has to be welcomed. It would be nice if more of them were involved with their local clubs, but they pay their ticket prices and are as entitled to support their provinces as much as anyone else.
Partly as a result, each province has moved into bigger, swankier new stadia and it would be no surprise if next season’s Magners League meetings fill both the 27,000-capacity Thomond Park and the new 50,000 all-seater Aviva Stadium.
Such is the fixture’s popularity, they’ve even helped to ensure the pubs will be open on this coming Good Friday; a sacrilegious occurrence which wouldn’t even have been countenanced 10 years ago.
Alas, with this popularity has come excessive antipathy between the two sets of supporters or, it would seem, between some of the newer supporters to each province.
When Leinster thrashed Munster 30-0 at the RDS in early October, the atmosphere was electric and befitted such a superb home performance. It didn’t need the sound of Ronan O’Gara’s name being booed when it was read out before the kick-off, the same Irish player who had landed the Slam-winning drop-goal six months beforehand.
Nor did it need the bile directed at John Hayes when he was red carded for an utterly out-of-character stamping, nor those chants borrowed from Old Trafford, Anfield and elsewhere of “Same Old Munster, Always Cheating”, or “Boring, Boring Munster”.
Conceivably, these chants and the baiting of Munster players should be taken in the context of a one-off night, when the recently-crowned European champions were in rampant form. But several readers have written to this column telling of their eye-wateringly unpleasant nights at this fixture in the past few years. One Munster supporter at the RDS that night recalled a constant flow of foul-mouthed and often racist invective at both Munster players and his small group of red-scarved friends.
After Shane Horgan’s intercept try, to complete the rout, they were patted on the heads and shoulders while being taunted Munster would win “F*** all” this year. “They also sang to the air of the Pompey chimes ‘No score Munster, Munster no score’.” “When I took issue with them for the gross intrusion off my personal space I was abused by at least six people, who shouted that I was ‘just a sore effing loser’. One of my friends intervened only to be invited outside for a fight by one of the aggressive yobs,” he recalled.
In the absence of any stewards or police, they felt compelled to remain and put up with abuse until the bitter end, when they were again taunted. There are many, like them, who will simply not attend another Munster-Leinster fixture again.
The danger is that with each passing instalment of Leinster versus Munster, the rivalry will become more poisonous. A degree of banter/rivalry between supporters is healthy, and amongst the majority of supporters, it remains a healthy rivalry, with each rooting for the other in Europe.
Nor is this a desire to apportion blame or to take the high moral ground. Indeed, we in the media happily helped to stoke up the rivalry, and sometimes excessively so. Maybe all this is a by-product of professional sport and increased commercialism. Old traditional fans and values versus new ones. Obeying the customary silence for kickers (a pity, albeit understandable, that it was forgotten for Dan Parks’ winning kick at Croke Park, all the more so as silence might have utterly flummoxed him) gives one hope. But if we ever get to the stage of those freeze frames, a la football, of an away player walking off to the backdrop of a baying mob mouthing obscenities, then the horse has surely bolted.
All in all, Irish rugby has embraced the professional age impressively. With all change come challenges, as one emailer wrote in, and with those can come potentially good and bad developments. Rival fans mixing freely, before during and after games, without hostility is surely worth keeping, no? As Declan Kidney is wont to say, our unity is our strength, and Ireland is such a small country, with such a small playing base, that the worst excesses of this rivalry cannot do any good.
Whatever its causes (and one ventures it may in part be a Dublin v country thing that has been partly transferred from other sports) taunting individual players from either side is totally out of character with what Irish rugby is about. And, along with the respective branches, the true fans must help to stamp this out. Otherwise it’s going to get more and more out of hand, and ultimately lead to segregation, and if segregation is to happen, then this fixture is now the odds-on favourite to provoke it.
Now that is definitely not what Irish rugby is about
29 Aug 2011, 05:44 am
Ireland is far from squeaky clean when it comes to racism in its sports.
{{ ” Minister Describes Racist Taunts as Despicable
When it comes to racist attacks Ireland falls mid table in comparison to other European countries but even one racist attack is one attack too many.
I would be very concerned if racist behaviour of this nature were to deter people of an immigrant background, especially young people, from participating in sport because such participation is a key element in the integration of newcomers into Irish society. ” }}
29 Aug 2011, 07:46 am
Acknowledging that we have black friends, had beers with black people, have black friends over for dinner is no indication that one is a non racist. It is how we treat coloured people, do we see them as equal. Would you allow your daughter or son to marry a black or coloured person…that gives an indication if you see them as equal.
Don’t say there are cultural differences to factor in…yes there are but we have seen how that is conquered.
To use racism to deter someone in a competitive environment is both not on and not particularly bright. Just shows the mental immaturity of these players….they lived in RSA and they know how sensitive that is.
I hope for their sake this is all not true.
29 Aug 2011, 07:51 am
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-228:
Buddy
If that is the case and they prove it then good for them…I some how doubt it though.
I am sure they are looking at all scenarios to get themselves out of the ****…..they are squirming right now.
Being in a squad one gets a feel what is a team call and what is a directed antagonistic insult. You know what has been directed at you.
29 Aug 2011, 16:55 pm
@wallabie.(wallabie.)-239:
Although you are absolutely correct in how you view this pathetic matter, this enlightened reading will not endear you to the very many racists and their apologists on this site.
9 Sep 2011, 12:43 pm
what makes the comment recist? Becaause a white person/s directed an insult at a black person? The racists are the ones that read racism into it. The probability of the comment being related to race is immaterial. Often by crying racism you reveal yourself to be the racist. Most politicians nead to realise this.
25 Oct 2011, 19:13 pm
yo yo
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