WP fire after slow start
10 Sep 2011
Western Province beat the Leopards 49-21 at Newlands on Saturday.
The Potchefstroom-based side gave their more illustrious opponents a scare when they scored two early tries through scrumhalf Whestley Moolman and outside centre Charl Weideman, with flyhalf Clayton Durand kicking both conversions.
However, WP found their rhythm in the latter stages of the first half, with flanker Tertius Daniller scoring a try from turnover ball. Isma-eel Dollie then slotted his second and third penalties to give his side a 16-14 lead at the break.
Further tries from flanker Nick Fenton-Wells, winger Danie Poolman and replacement halfback Nic Groom (who came on for Dollie) extended the lead to 21 points going into the final quarter.
The Leopards scored their third try through wing Maritz Hoffman, only for WP to grab another two tries through prop Brok Harris and flanker Siya Kolisi.
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10 Sep 2011, 18:35 pm
G10 here is your ” Indian ” winning it just for you.
Are you still S.African?
10 Sep 2011, 18:58 pm
Great headline for a report that goes on to mention Dollies name only once in passing, as putting over a conversion.
10 Sep 2011, 18:59 pm
@ET.(ET.)-1: What are you on about now again Mr. Cop?
10 Sep 2011, 19:09 pm
Dollie is about as Indian as I am Afrikaans. ET if u goona be a idiot bout things then at least get it right.
10 Sep 2011, 19:22 pm
@TheAgent(TheAgent)-3:
Firstlly, did you get my response to your post 179 about swimming and running and miles equivalent?
Now this matter, G10 labelled Dollie an ” Indian ” but such nationals are born in India normally. G10 furthers refers to himself as ” a Saffa ” but has recent Irish heritage.
Dollie’s heritage actually goes way back to the Dutch bringing in Malaysian slaves (or labourers) which in S.A’s ethnic demands means he was (and may still be) tagged a “Cape Malay ” which is also seen, in the ethnic demands of S.A., as “Cape Coloured”.
It means the youngster has infinitely more claims to be here and as a genuine S.African than possibly the pretender, G10 has if all this labelling of “Indian” (wrongly so) Cape Malay , “C.Coloured, Zulu etc. etc. is adhered to but sickly so.
In the world I live in I see just HUMANS, most of whom are inherently good and a few are inherently bad, and that is how I treat my students.
Only thhe hard -working ones (good) get any favours from me.
10 Sep 2011, 19:27 pm
@sparticus(sparticus)-4:
Sparts that is what I have and am saying. It is Grant 10 being ludicrous and stunningly stupid and racist in the final analysis.
It is Grant 10 who labelled him “Indian”.
I have seen many Dollies play in my leagues and for W.P(Bo Kaap) and City and Suburban and more.
How about saying sorry for your offensive language?
10 Sep 2011, 19:32 pm
@ET.(ET.)-5: “In the world I live in I see just HUMANS,”
Then why do you so often mention Afrikaners? Why not just Humans?
10 Sep 2011, 19:42 pm
@ET.(ET.)-5:
As far as I can remember, there were at least 9, possibly 14, classifications of mixed race people under the Nats that are refered to as Cape Coloured.
10 Sep 2011, 19:45 pm
ET has his owen classification.
10 Sep 2011, 19:49 pm
* Own, of course.
10 Sep 2011, 19:50 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-10:
That’s his Welsh blood.
10 Sep 2011, 19:50 pm
@ET.(ET.)-5: “In the world I live in I see just HUMANS, most of whom are inherently good and a few are inherently bad, and that is how I treat my students.
Only thhe hard -working ones (good) get any favours from me.”
Do you teach? If so, where? Do you stutter when you talk or just when you write?
10 Sep 2011, 19:51 pm
@TheAgent(TheAgent)-12: “thhe”
10 Sep 2011, 19:51 pm
Dollie has flair and a reasonably good boot – he is certainly good enough to play at currie cup level against teams like the Leopards or Pumas.
To play him against the Lions/Sharks/Bulls/Cheetahs will be extremely risky.
To play him at super 15 level would be plain stupid.
10 Sep 2011, 19:53 pm
@TheAgent(TheAgent)-7:
In my experience , in my country and elsewhere, too many of them behaved very badly and made life difficult for the majority of S.Africans simply because they were better tanned and had a healthier hue than the many sickly hued Scots I sometimes see in WPB when I am there holidaying.
Even as a full-time employee at UCT I had, like many others, to apply for a special permit to attend that “white ” university ( and there are a host more horror events/stories by many others and not me, that are worse).
And please do not come with that forgive and forget garbage because you can only forgive what people truly confess/own up to.
This is clearly a minute portion of the story that millions can add to.
10 Sep 2011, 19:55 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-14:
I said that all those many months ago but the main problem seemms more to be the religion for the rulers and shakers at Newlands.
BTW I left a jocular post for you on the Poms thread.
10 Sep 2011, 19:57 pm
@TheAgent(TheAgent)-12:
hahahaha at stutter when you write.
10 Sep 2011, 19:57 pm
@ET.(ET.)-15: No need for a long story. A simple answer to a simple question will do. And you don’t have to forgive me. I don’t care. You carry the weight, not me. Fact is, you lied. You said you see everyone as Humans, unlike the one you accused. Then I simply showed you your wrong ways. Now you want to defend your lie. Not in the mood. Sorry.
10 Sep 2011, 19:58 pm
@I am a stormer(I am a stormer)-17:
10 Sep 2011, 20:05 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-14:
Is it as “stupid” as it was for Gio Apples in his time much earlier? And now rightly or wrongly he is at the RWC.
You can never really judge a book by its cover .
The way I understannd the complaints the people who speak to me simply ask to be given opportunities.
Gibbs in the very beginning did not deserve his chance as was shown many times batting for WP in the earlly days but there was a ‘white ‘ political need to use and expose him and look how he developed especially after Des Haynes coached him.
I have the simple solution and that is to turn the pyramid upside down.
Those that were first shall be last and those that were last are placed first and that is how the apex is brought closer to the base of the pyramid where the multitude is found.
10 Sep 2011, 20:05 pm
@ET.(ET.)-16:
I will have a look on the thread.
Something I always wanted to ask you- What do you think of the quality of players like Stanley Bruintjies, Green Vigo, Pompies Williams, Richard Croy and a few more who played during the “old” days for the WP league in comparison to the quality of those who played in the “SARU league”?
10 Sep 2011, 20:09 pm
Welcome Soyiso, keohane’s newest employee!
And by the way … Good luck!
10 Sep 2011, 20:11 pm
problem with idiots who pretend they not racist where every waking thought of their’s revolves around race and who did what to whom, and the fact that they still feel marginalized as human beings because deep down they simply do not feel worthy enough to be classified ‘human’, reveals the absolute sick mind that pervades itself to consider itself as superior because it carries the aftermath of a huge involuntary inferiority complex as large as the mountain they were born and bred under. Bottom line is these so called ‘non racist’ inhuman beings are the biggest piece of trash racists you will EVER find ANYWHERE lurking within society… Race is first and foremost on their minds 24/7 every second of every waking day, and this little two faced pseudo intellectual who deems himself a cut above humanity is the absolute WORST case of self righteous indignant racist garbage creeping about sowing and spewing his sick self infested racist garbage wherever the piece of race infested trash goes…
10 Sep 2011, 20:12 pm
@TheAgent(TheAgent)-18:
I mention no names so I do not make it ppersonal as you do now by this claim : ” you don’t have to forgive me ”
I have no weight to bare really but tens of millions of others certainly have and they will insist on shedding that load whether you like it or not.
You asked a question about n” Afrikaners” and I simply asnwered it honestly.
If you deem it not to be so then logically expose the dishonesty, but without emotion or be quiet.
10 Sep 2011, 20:13 pm
@ET.(ET.)-20:
Dollie, imo, just do not have the heart and keenness to “get his hands dirty” like a Gio Aplon.
There are players who can get away with that (Naas Botha for example) but then they must be exceptional in other areas of the game and I do not think Dollie is in that league.
Herchelle was always going to make it- exceptional talent-, btw he was also the best flyhalf at achool level I have ever seen. Even better than Peter Kirsten.
10 Sep 2011, 20:14 pm
@ET.(ET.)-20: Go read my repies to your reply on the other thread – #181/182
10 Sep 2011, 20:17 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-21:
Green Vigo was an absolute legend at Wigan as a RL player.
10 Sep 2011, 20:17 pm
All this sermonising and “I see humans” is rich coming from someone who called katman a “hyena” on another thread.
10 Sep 2011, 20:18 pm
@ET.(ET.)-24: Man you are difficult to get through to. You accused Grant10 of something by saying that you see everyone as Humans – some good, some bad. I said to you then why mention Afrikaners if you see everyone as just Humans? Now you make a whole political booraa speach about how you suffered and won’t forgive. Long story short, YOU DO NOT PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH. And, in my book, that type of behaviour puts you in the “bad” category. Next time, open the window before you throw stones at others.
10 Sep 2011, 20:18 pm
@ET.(ET.)-20:
I don’t suppose you remember ripping into me for referring to Gio Aplon as Apples?
I’m sure you do now though, it was a rant of note about his family history and how I was being disrespectful.
Yes, that’s the one.
Hypocrite?
Of course you are. Exposed again and again and again and again. Right here on Keo’s ‘alter of truth.’
You line ‘em up, I’ll keep knocking ‘em down.
10 Sep 2011, 20:19 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-28: Mmmm. Mr. Holy himself. ET the Innocent fighter for justice and fairness.
10 Sep 2011, 20:20 pm
anyone who hates Afrikaners is no worse than someone hating a Koisan or a whatnot.. exact same stroke for different folk.. so you can pretend to take the racist out of the melanin induced inferiority complex but you cannot take the racist out of the whatnot howsoever you try.
10 Sep 2011, 20:21 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-32: Well said Skop.
10 Sep 2011, 20:21 pm
@David(David)-27:
I remember he left for league – probably very disilussioned with the local scene at the time. He was a fearless and very hard tackler- bit like a Joggie Jansen with more flair – i am not surprised he made it big time in league.
10 Sep 2011, 20:22 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-21:
The guys you mention there Rob diid not belong to the non-racial, orignal SARU at the time. They all played for the rural(not urban) “Coloured” ( racial, as opposed to the non-racial ) Federation who acted in an unpprincipled manner for reasons of ‘white ‘ acceptance and thus favours and status and money..
Some had their early days in non-racial clubs and unions and did not shine and eventually they formed the very small reactionary Federation that your Craven through the Snymans and more deliberately used to try to fool the world. Why was Morne DuP not involved and wisely so?
It is a very long story over decades.
10 Sep 2011, 20:23 pm
@TheAgent(TheAgent)-26:
Later, as busy here now with Rob.
I will reply if it pertains to the science only.
10 Sep 2011, 20:25 pm
@TheAgent(TheAgent)-29:
It is not the person that is me but it is the facts that you fail to break down and thus compromise.
10 Sep 2011, 20:25 pm
@ET.(ET.)-36: Buzz me before you want to confess. I don’t have time for you to barge in whenever it suits you. Now, WAIT.
10 Sep 2011, 20:26 pm
@ET.(ET.)-37: Coward answer. Can’t man up and admit he is a fraud. A lier.
10 Sep 2011, 20:27 pm
@ET.(ET.)-36: Then you wont reply as it pertains to the moral issues of your misleading behaviour. Remember to buzz. I’m busy.
10 Sep 2011, 20:28 pm
@TheAgent(TheAgent)-39: lier = liar. Eish.
10 Sep 2011, 20:28 pm
Samuel L Jackson is the king of cool!
10 Sep 2011, 20:28 pm
this little pseudo commie intellect creep is the absolute epitome of an outright racist.. in fact the 2 biggest bigoted superficial pseudo enlightened hypocrite RACISTS here are this two faced coward creep whatnot living up Yankee Doodle Dandy’s Arlie in exile spewing racial hatred against the Afrikaner from out the bosom of Abe Lincoln country and his other two faced little pseudo commie arsed bloodthirsty piece of trash racist whatnot sidekick who goes by a host of names here trying to fly under the radar of who he actually IS..
10 Sep 2011, 20:31 pm
@ET.(ET.)-24:
‘I have no weight to bare’
Fark, it’s just to easy. Maybe you have become like a BEAR with a sore head and the weight is to much to BEAR after staying up all night. having to BARE your soul to the minions on Keo.
Give up ffs, you BAREly have the intelligence to act so clever.
10 Sep 2011, 20:32 pm
@JockBok(JockBok)-44:
Classic.
10 Sep 2011, 20:33 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-25:
As you allude to it is your opinion whilst many more may have a counter opinion. As for Naas was it truly all about his skills or was it the wall of protection around him that allowed him to develope those skills.
Ask Willem Van der Merwe who played with him.
No opposition was allowed to even touch Nasty Booter.
Some of the best QBs in the NFL shine because they sit deep in that pocket of protection which gives them much time to do their thing..
BTW opportunities are not guarantees.
10 Sep 2011, 20:34 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-42:
So you never chose 4 weddings then?
10 Sep 2011, 20:34 pm
calling RACISM a SCIENCE – now that is absolutely RICH coming from a fraudulent pseudo fcking so called ‘scientist” … these little pseudo commie arsed runts pretending to be non racist when the FACT of the MATTER is that race and racial complex CONSUMES their absolute fucked up marginalized hatred fed brain.. day in and day out, minute by minute hour by hour.. non STOP !!!
10 Sep 2011, 20:35 pm
Everyone, stop bothering ET. He is busy googling stats from the NFL, history of the Cape, etc. It takes time, give him some space. He is dealing with Robzim now, wait your repective turns.
10 Sep 2011, 20:36 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-48:
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