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KeoTV: Boks need X factor

20 Sep 2011

RYAN VREDE says Gio Aplon should always be in the Springbok match 22.


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  • 201.HongKongSlong: Reply to this comment
    20 Sep 2011, 17:18 pm

    @Transformation(Transformation)-198: I think you are right to a degree, but brisbane they were also forced into that style by losing their back row players. Not completely sure, but I think they had 4 All Black 2nd row players on the park in the 2nd half? Doesn’t lend itself to their normal style. But for sure they will ask the forwards to win the game if the backs can’t do it straight away.

  • 202.wpstormerbok: Reply to this comment
    20 Sep 2011, 17:20 pm

    @mpundulu(mpundulu)-195:

    They are good coaches but they’re not that far ahead of the pack in international terms. Henry struggled with Wales and lost a B&I Lions series, and what about that 0-3 against SA in 2009?

    Wayne Smith did well at Super level, so did Henry, but so did Deans and he is an example that with limited stocks he’s struggling just as Henry did in Wales.

    I don’t recall anything revolutionary about what they’ve done at international level, for that to happen it must be something that changes the course of tactics and the way the game is played.

    To me they still look like the AB’s of years gone by, explosive runners with forwards and backs handling the ball with ease, a high level of skills with an educated boot at 10 and game breaking free running back 3.

    Gotta run guy, was good chatting.

    May the Power be, with PDV.

    BOKKE!!!

  • 203.mpundulu: Reply to this comment
    20 Sep 2011, 17:22 pm

    @Tartan(Tartan)-200: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/all-blacks/news/video.cfm?c_id=1503165&gal_cid=1503165&gallery_id=121605

  • 204.mpundulu: Reply to this comment
    20 Sep 2011, 17:23 pm

    @wpstormerbok(wpstormerbok)-202: I’ll wait for your return chap.

  • 205.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    20 Sep 2011, 17:24 pm

    @HongKongSlong(HongKongSlong)-201: they had vito, richie, whitelock as loosies and thorne & boric as locks if i remember well.

  • 206.mpundulu: Reply to this comment
    20 Sep 2011, 17:26 pm

    @Transformation(Transformation)-198: Not to worry my friend this weekend is under wraps, we’ve got this…..

    Ndizaku cheka iposi ngoku.

  • 207.mpundulu: Reply to this comment
    20 Sep 2011, 17:34 pm

    @Transformation(Transformation)-199: Armstrong kwedini!!!!!! Unehlanhla ude ubone isiskolo sam.

  • 208.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    20 Sep 2011, 17:38 pm

    @mpundulu(mpundulu)-207: ndigqibezela i-dining hall entsha kraca pha ngoku…imi phakathi kwe graham ne holland phezu kweladama lokuqubha lidala.

  • 209.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    20 Sep 2011, 17:39 pm

    okay ndiyaqhawula ngoku igym iyandibiza.

    iyakubonana ebusuku

  • 210.mpundulu: Reply to this comment
    20 Sep 2011, 17:45 pm

    @Transformation(Transformation)-208: okay ukwi-construction ishishini ye family yakho?

  • 211.mpundulu: Reply to this comment
    20 Sep 2011, 17:45 pm

    @Transformation(Transformation)-209: For sure.

  • 212.PissAnt: Reply to this comment
    20 Sep 2011, 17:53 pm

    Uhm no Ryan…

    He does not need to be in the 22. Or in place of who? Hougaard? JPP? Habs?

    Can you see Gio make a try-saving tackle on the line like JPP did on Saturday? Or rip a ball in a tackle like Odwa? Does he have the positional play of any of these guys? The impact of a Hougaard from the bench? The work rate of Habana?

    If you give me a choice between the names mentioned above and Gio, I would choose the above going into the play-offs

  • 213.HongKongSlong: Reply to this comment
    20 Sep 2011, 17:59 pm

    @Transformation(Transformation)-205: I think Ali Williams was also playing, but he may have been subbed off.

  • 214.Tartan: Reply to this comment
    20 Sep 2011, 18:01 pm

    @mpundulu(mpundulu)-203:

    Yeah, but “expect the unexpected” isn’t exactly having a special plan haha.

    It’s correct of course that the forwards will decide the match, but that holds true for most games. Once/if it gets to the French backs though it’s anybody’s guess what they’ll do with it. For better or worse.

  • 215.mpundulu: Reply to this comment
    20 Sep 2011, 18:42 pm

    Tartan: the French are unpredictable no question, in-between WCs the ABs traditionally wallop them, however at WC the story changes. Therefore, to ensure that their forwards and backs when they interplay don’t get their continuity offload game going, it’s important that the ABs create that go forward high pressure environment that’ll be only established through forward dominance.

  • 216.Tartan: Reply to this comment
    20 Sep 2011, 19:38 pm

    @mpundulu(mpundulu)-215:

    Yes, I agree with that. I was just poking fun at the fact the French don’t really have a gameplan besides setting themselves a platform.

  • 217.Great White Shark: Reply to this comment
    20 Sep 2011, 19:46 pm

    @PissAnt(PissAnt)-212:

    Aplon is the Brent Russell of de Villiers’ selections. Everyone knows he can run but other than that he just doesn’t compare to the other choices.

    If he played for Wales, Ireland or Scotland he’d be the gamebreaker in those teams…..for the Boks he’s just another fast player amongst bigger stronger players.

  • 218.PissAnt: Reply to this comment
    20 Sep 2011, 19:50 pm

    @Great White Shark(Predawn)-217:

    I said this 18 months ago, Aplon will always be a very special CC and Super Rugby player – test rugby (for now) is different.

  • 219.Great White Shark: Reply to this comment
    20 Sep 2011, 19:52 pm

    I said it too and got a tongue lashing from the Western Province crowd.

  • 220.PissAnt: Reply to this comment
    20 Sep 2011, 19:58 pm

    @Great White Shark(Predawn)-219:

    Not this part of that crowd!

  • 221.wooden spoon: Reply to this comment
    20 Sep 2011, 21:38 pm

    To all the cowardly, defeatist idiots calling for the Boks to “throw” a game… you know who you are:

    You may wish to think it through a bit more.

    SA beat Wales – 4pts
    Fiji – 5pts
    Nam – 5pts likely

    Total 14pts

    Wales lost to SA – 1pt
    Samoa – 4pts
    Nam – 5pts likely

    Total 10pts

    If SA “throw” their game like chickenshits against Samoa (I will lose all respect) they end on 14pts, provided they lose by 7 or more. A loss within 7pts means SA will top the pool no matter what else happens, on 15pts.

    Wales play Fiji a whole two days later. They will have two long days to work out all the permutations…

    All Wales would need to do assuming the pool plays out as above is beat Fiji without a bonus point to finish second. Ending with 14 points in the pool (tied with SA) they will qualify in 2nd place by virtue of having lost to SA in the pool stage. Them’s the rules of the tournament.

    So even if SA threw away all their proud history (losing to Samoa FFS!) and decided to try manipulate the situation in a cowardly fashion, Wales would still have the final and likely say…

    If I were Wales I would beat Nam without the bonus, nothing lost to them as they still win, but it would mean SA would gain nothing at all by losing to Samoa – SA would still finish first on 14 points.

    So think first before confirming your idiot status.

  • 222.wooden spoon: Reply to this comment
    20 Sep 2011, 21:42 pm

    and Wales are a canny, clever lot… they would be in a position to manipulate the pool by still winning their remaining games…

    Without (despicably) losing a game on purpose.

  • 223.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    20 Sep 2011, 21:44 pm

    @mpundulu(mpundulu)-215: 2009 was between WCs and France toured NZ.

    No walloping there. Maybe that tour was not “traditional” enough, though

  • 224.wooden spoon: Reply to this comment
    20 Sep 2011, 21:51 pm

    of course Fiji would need to beat Samoa…

  • 225.whatever: Reply to this comment
    20 Sep 2011, 23:05 pm

    A few bits from WC in NZ papers……………

    Kiwis accused of spitting and swearing at Ozzies supporters at the Irish game

    French select their B team

    mmmmmmmmmm

    Kind of thing you would expect from wet pantie during a Bok game. Good keeewee hospitality

    The French, well I don’t even think Mr L even knows who his best side is, but maybe he would also prefer the other side of the draw…..

    Looks like everyone does :)

  • 226.mpundulu: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2011, 00:17 am

    Heavens Game: I think it was 2008, when McCaw, Carter, Ali Williams, brad thorne, kaino and others were out, loose trio if I’m not mistaken was latimer, messam, and Rodney. Locks were Isaac Ross and Anthony boric. Even Lelia masaga was on the wing, it was a real mess

  • 227.Steel Shark: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2011, 01:43 am

    @David(David)-134:

    David I don’t know where you (or Star) I guess got that info from but Francois is definitely bigger than Gio, Francois is 5″10 and 97kg Gio is 5″9 and 78kg. You shouldn’t even need to look at the stats to see who’s bigger, it’s pretty obvious.

    But that is not the important, Hougaard is built in the Clyde Rathbone mold, he’s quick, strong and relishes contact, Gio is more of the elusive type but as Hendrikp said he doesn’t have the strength in the contact area, and is easily tossed around. He’s still definitely one of the top backs in SA but I don’t think he can ever become a regular fixture at least againt top opposition. Especially with Hougaard on fire, JP coming back into form and Mvovo itching for a chance.

  • 228.Big Hit: Reply to this comment
    21 Sep 2011, 02:47 am

    NZ wouldn’t pick Aplon, Oz probably would though. Either way he’s probably better than Habana.

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