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• 51.shooter:
  20 Sep 2011, 12:29 pm

  g13g ….van waar ge-hasie?

• 52.>^..^< katman:
  20 Sep 2011, 12:29 pm

  @cane(cane)-45: Speaking of the right side of the line, I have a feeling that a plucky Italy up against a spent Ireland is going to restore Pool C to its sensible order once more.

  Meaning we don’t have to throw the Samoa game

• 53.hendrikp:
  20 Sep 2011, 12:30 pm

  @cane(cane)-50:

  I heard from a reliable source on News24 that France will win by 8.

• 54.cane:
  20 Sep 2011, 12:30 pm

  @hendrikp(hendrikp)-48:

  Stats don’t always tell the whole truth Hennie.

  Like Jonah………………………..no tries against SA.

• 55.Heavens Game:
  20 Sep 2011, 12:30 pm

  The French tight 5 will put the AB’s well and truly in their place this weekend – collectively on their All Black backsides.

  Picamoles will be running at Carter all day until he snaps – mental and defensive frailty exposed forever.

  And let Sunny Bulldust play on the wing where Le Detonateur will explode the “Great” Boxer’s box office myth for all time.

  Dusautoir will show that McCaw has gone as soft and precious as a Truffle.

  Yup, the portents are there. France have a point to prove. La France sont dangereux.

• 56.hendrikp:
  20 Sep 2011, 12:31 pm

  @>^..^< katman(katman)-52:

  Should never throw a game anyway. To lose a perfect record against Samoa would be an embarressment. I’d rather go out against Australia

• 57.cane:
  20 Sep 2011, 12:32 pm

  @hendrikp(hendrikp)-53:

  I don’t mind if they do Hennie.

  Better now than later on.

  What side of the draw would YOU rather be on?

• 58.hendrikp:
  20 Sep 2011, 12:35 pm

  @cane(cane)-54:

  I know… but truth is Aplon hasn’t done ANYTHING in a Bok jersey. He looks flash in patches at Super 15 level, but has nothing to his game that pushes him ahead of Habana, Pietersen or even Hougaard. Vrede would like us to believe that he has x-factor, but Aplon only does the minor things that are expected from a back his size. Combine that with constant mistakes and he’s not a starting Springbok at this stage.

• 59.hendrikp:
  20 Sep 2011, 12:36 pm

  @cane(cane)-57:

  I don’t think a team should concern themselves with the draw. Rather take it game by game. If you’re going to lose a game at any stage you probably shouldn’t be considered a favourite to win it.

• 60.Heavens Game:
  20 Sep 2011, 12:36 pm

  Oh, and let Warthog Weepu play against Yachvili. This little piggy is going to be led to the butchers market, eyes bulging and tongue out, only to be pork roasted by the Georgian French maestro.

  Its going to be ugly.

• 61.greatest13gerber:
  20 Sep 2011, 12:37 pm

  as longg as Chokerss dont get to the final, I will be happy!!

• 62.klingon_x:
  20 Sep 2011, 12:39 pm

  @coma(coma)-36:

  LOL He goes by the name of the Poison Dwarf.

  “A selfish, untrustworthy, deeply obnoxious or evil person of diminutive size, whose ostensibly unthreatening appearance allows them to fulfil their predisposition for causing unprovoked pain and suffering in an under-hand manner for anyone who has the misfortune to strike-up a friendship them.”

  http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Poison%20Dwarf

• 63.greatest13gerber:
  20 Sep 2011, 12:42 pm

  Hougardd
  Aplon
  Alberts
  Bismack

  off the benchh in the last 30mins be dvastructive

• 64.cane:
  20 Sep 2011, 12:48 pm

  @>^..^< katman(katman)-52:

  The Fear Factor is getting out of hand.

  -AB’s throw game against France to avoid playing SA/Oz in Semi.
  -SA throw game against Samoa.
  -France try to throw game against NZ, but fail to inform Ref of their intention. And win anyway, scoring with a movement that contains 4 forward passes.
  -Italy kick the shiit out of Ireland, because the Mafia have several billion Lira on the upset.
  -Jonny takes the Bookies money, and slots 7 from 7.

  This is indeed a great WC.

• 65.greatest13gerber:
  20 Sep 2011, 12:50 pm

  @cane(cane)-64:

  Not greatt if you aree Samoa or minnoww!..treatedd rightly unfairlyy by organisorss and refs!!!!

• 66.cane:
  20 Sep 2011, 12:51 pm

  @hendrikp(hendrikp)-59:

  I agree Hennie.
  Try to win everything.

  I’m sure there is not ONE Coach who would dare do otherwise..

  Except France perhaps.
  They have a history of tactical retreats.

• 67.shooter:
  20 Sep 2011, 12:54 pm

  @cane(cane)-64: funny stuff… cane.!
  but the script still ends for the tragic hero J Smit to hold the cup.

• 68.greatest13gerber:
  20 Sep 2011, 12:54 pm

  Despite such greatt talent and abilityy…The frogss are notoriuss for being crazy and unpredictable

• 69.capebull:
  20 Sep 2011, 12:54 pm

  @Wezwp(Wezwp)-33: Are you seriaas ?

• 70.mshiniwami:
  20 Sep 2011, 12:56 pm

  @hendrikp(hendrikp)-58:

  Thats not entirely factual…He was brillaint in the Autumn Tests last year especially vs France. He played a solid game vs NZ in Soweto at 15.Was also one of the few players who came away from 3N away tour this year with some plaudits.

  He did however let himself down vs Oz in Dbn when he came on.And everyone is judging him on that one performance which is a tad unfair…Frans Hougaard has had a couple of howlers in his Bok career already namely vs italy in 09′ and midweek games.Lacked polish last year when he play at 9. but now when employed correctly off the bench he has added that X-factor to Bok armor.I believe the same can be done with Aplon.

• 71.capebull:
  20 Sep 2011, 12:56 pm

  Why do banks charge you for insuficient funds , if they know there’s insuficient funds ?

  Why does Tarzan have long hair and no beard ?

• 72.greatest13gerber:
  20 Sep 2011, 12:57 pm

  Francios Pienaarr
  John Smit

  Great captainss…But were neverr Best in theirr position or greatt playerss!!

  Uli is greatestt 2 by the wayy

• 73.cane:
  20 Sep 2011, 12:58 pm

  @greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-65:

  ****.

  There are 5 Teams in each Pool.
  Meaning one Team will get the short end of the stick, in every pool, every round.

  The higher you are seeded, the less likely you will have to play 2 games a week.

  Seedlings favour the Higher Seeds in all Pro-sport, Golf, Tennis, Boxing, you name it.

  RWC is no different.

• 74.Heavens Game:
  20 Sep 2011, 12:58 pm

  @greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-68: Yes, and thats why this weekend will be fun… If only to see the great post mortem, ref blamegame, and woe-is-me after the deed is done. We might be lucky enough to have sightings of legendary Soozie too.

  We might also be lucky to see a decent fight… I reckon Servat will teach Squeaky “Clean” Kevvie a few home truths.

• 75.WP Till I Die:
  20 Sep 2011, 13:02 pm

  I would love to see Poppa69′s response to this? This from a real Maori! (Not a first-generation Samoan-Kiwi like Nonu!)

  “Haka ‘hijacked by rugby’

  Auckland – A New Zealand Maori leader has backed controversial comments from South Africa coach Peter de Villiers that the haka is “overused”, saying the traditional war dance has been “hijacked by rugby people”.

  Peter Love, trustee of an organisation which administers Maori reserves, told Fairfax media that Maori culture was being “abused” and was especially unhappy with a wave of haka “flash mobs” surrounding the Rugby World Cup.

  “I’m concerned our (Maori) culture is being abused by the overuse and inappropriateness of the haka when it is performed outside special occasions,” Love told Fairfax, in comments reported on Tuesay.

  “The haka in our culture is something which is regarded as special and should not be bastardised by sport. Peter de Villiers is dead right when he says it is losing its respect.”

  Love, whose uncle is a former New Zealand Maori Rugby Board chairman, added that haka flash mobs, including more than a dozen in recent weeks with one in Barcelona and another at the Sydney Opera House, were misguided.

  “The haka is a challenge, not something which is performed as an expression of delight,” he said.

  “Who told those people they could do that? The haka is an orchestrated representation of our culture when it is used in an appropriate place, but it is being abused.”

  De Villiers courted controversy when he said the face-pulling, foot-stamping dance and chant performed before rugby games by New Zealand, Fiji, Tonga and Samoa to intimidate opponents was becoming over-exposed.

  “For me, about the World Cup especially, there is too many haka around,” de Villiers told the Dominion Post newspaper. “It is unique, to me, and is losing its intensity, but that is only me.”

  “People are becoming so used to it. It is not a novelty any more and they don’t respect it.”

  De Villiers’ comments prompted an immediate response from the All Blacks, with centre Ma’a Nonu saying, “it’s part of our history, our tradition.

  “We’re proud of it. I don’t really care what he thinks,” Nonu said.”

• 76.cane:
  20 Sep 2011, 13:03 pm

  @capebull(capebull)-71:

  Hey I got that one 4 days ago capebull.

  We must know people, who know people, who may quite possibly, know people we know?

• 77.greatest13gerber:
  20 Sep 2011, 13:03 pm

  @cane(cane)-73:

  yess, thankk you.

  still feel for Georgiaa and Samoaa in regardss to treatment by refs.

• 78.WP Till I Die:
  20 Sep 2011, 13:04 pm

  @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-74:

  Justice 4 Kevvie!

• 79.cane:
  20 Sep 2011, 13:05 pm

  @WP Till I Die(WP-Forever)-75:

  I agree with Mr Love.

  Totaly.

• 80.wpstormerbok:
  20 Sep 2011, 13:05 pm

  @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-38:

  Agree with you Heavens. Already stated on the other thread i’m backing France to beat All Blacks, i gave a whole lot of reasons and just to sum it up quickly again:

  NZ’s scrum hasnt been performing, even put under pressure by Tonga.

  Carter hasnt been that great with goalkicking, and in this match he’ll go into a kicking dual against the two scrumhalfs France selected at 9 & 10.

  Thompson at 8 for NZ gives them an unbalanced backrow, if France’s captain and that big #8 step up they can take this facet if their tight 5 gains parity in the tightloose.

  Allain Rolland will be officiating this match, which is a late night kick-off.

  France will shake the AB’s again.

• 81.Heavens Game:
  20 Sep 2011, 13:06 pm

  @WP Till I Die(WP-Forever)-78: Yes, Total Justice.

  Servat gonna have Mealamu a la carte…

• 82.hendrikp:
  20 Sep 2011, 13:07 pm

  @mshiniwami(mshiniwami)-70:

  Fair enough I just don’t think Aplon has ever been accurate enough in anything he does. Lots of flair but we don’t need that, we need precision. More a sevens player or back-up winger then anything.

  Next year also I don’t see much room for him unless Habana has a meltdown.

  14 backs at this World Cup. That cuts to 12 in a regular 26-man squad.

  Out goes: Fourie du Preez, Butch James, Odwa Ndungane & Gio Aplon
  In comes: Johan Goosen, Johann Sadie

  Only changes I’d like to see them make

• 83.cane:
  20 Sep 2011, 13:07 pm

  @wpstormerbok(wpstormerbok)-80:

  You forgot to mention that France has looked like **** thus far.

  If I was in your presence.
  And if you had a spare 500 rand.
  Woiuld you be so bold?

• 84.BillTong:
  20 Sep 2011, 13:08 pm

  Probably not the right thread, but couldn’t resist. Early contender for “Post of the RWC 2011″. From “Pot Hale” on the aussie site “The Roar”.

  Classic – thought I’d share it!

  I was just thinking about all the conspiracy theories of who might throw a match in order to get into a perceived favourable path to the final.

  First up is NZ/Fra.

  Might Henry throw the match to get into a quarter playing England and a semi against Wales or Ireland?
  Crazy Marc might have other ideas though and ensure he stays in second spot to grill the Rosbifs and trounce Ireland once more in the semis. He puts Yachvilli and Parra in the front row just to see what happens.

  Meanwhile, along comes P Divvy and his troops against Samoa. Maybe he should come second and get to play Ireland in the quarters, and then play Eng in the semis (if they haven’t been beaten by NZ or France who are now thinking of throwing the game against Tonga to get their second place back.)

  Meanwhile Kidney is slowly plotting as it comes down to the final pool match against Italy. He’s been up all might trying to work out the permutations, and whether he should cross over or stay onside because Eng are now on the other side having beaten France who decided to beat Tonga after all. He’s still trying to work it out when Semezato scores in the corner to win the game and Italy go through since Ireland forfeited the match against Russia cos they forgot to turn up as they were too busy working out whether they should get a bonus point or not.

  Meanwhile, when no one’s looking, Dingo Deans sneaks into the trophy room and nicks Bill – Julia Gillard awards him Convict for Life status as Sydney goes into meltdown. Quade Cooper retires from the game and says he’s moving to New Zealand where he’d be appreciated.

• 85.hendrikp:
  20 Sep 2011, 13:08 pm

  @WP Till I Die(WP-Forever)-75:

  There you go! But when an Afrikaner says it he is from a long line of murderers and rapists. I’m still waiting for an apology from that piece of s**t.

• 86.Heavens Game:
  20 Sep 2011, 13:09 pm

  @wpstormerbok(wpstormerbok)-80: Rolland is going to be a huge factor. Suarez McCaw is not going to have free reign to rewrite the laws.

  I reckon France will target and pressurise 8, 9, 10 big time.

  It will be fun.

• 87.capebull:
  20 Sep 2011, 13:09 pm

  @cane(cane)-76: True,

  Has anyone noticed how much longer the NH refs let the guys fight for the ball at ruck time ?

  SH will almost blow imediatly for holding on ?

  NH refs let guys dive in of their feet no problem, our cc refs will get heart attack

• 88.cane:
  20 Sep 2011, 13:11 pm

  @greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-77:

  Hey, at least ALL their players get to experience and cheerish the RWC.

• 89.Transformation:
  20 Sep 2011, 13:14 pm

  @WP Till I Die(WP-Forever)-75: Ooooooh now this one is going to p*ss of Black Panty

  he’s already told Chch that he is NOT a real kiwi hehehe

• 90.mshiniwami:
  20 Sep 2011, 13:15 pm

  @hendrikp(hendrikp)-82:

  Johan Goosen has played all of 3 matches in a diluted CC….The hype is premature in my view.Good looking young player but lets not get ahead of ourselves…Sias Eberson had a few decent games in S15 this year and many were calling for him to be a Bok,now he is on bench behind Goosen.Lets be practical.Sadie is looking very good as well.But we shall see,he likely has to usurp de Jongh which is unlikely. Gio also has 2 years now of Test experience,also Mvovo is a another promising prospect with Bok colours already. Elton Jantjies is playing very good rugby for table topping Lions and has Bok colours already as well.

  Plenty of other options.

• 91.WP Till I Die:
  20 Sep 2011, 13:16 pm

  @Transformation(Transformation)-89:

  Save the post! Would love to hear their take on it?

• 92.cane:
  20 Sep 2011, 13:16 pm

  @BillTong(BillTong)-84:

  ANYBODY WHO MISSED THAT:

  GO BACK NOW.

  NO ………..NOW.

• 93.mshiniwami:
  20 Sep 2011, 13:17 pm

  @hendrikp(hendrikp)-82:

  Lionel Mapoe was also playing brilliant rugby at 13 for Lions and also very capable on the wing-09′ was very much in the same position as Sadie is in now. getting back to his best.

• 94.hendrikp:
  20 Sep 2011, 13:18 pm

  @mshiniwami(mshiniwami)-90:

  Goosen is going to be the best flyhalf in the world. I never personally called for Ebersohn to be a Springbok – he’s not physical enough runner and his defense is poor. But Goosen to me looks just brilliant. A bit premature? Yes. But it won’t be after a brilliant S15 from him.

  Sadie, depending on who the coach is probably, could walk into the squad. Especially now that he is playing for the Bulls.

  End of the day S15 performances will matter, but I can see these two being 2 of the very best.

• 95.wpstormerbok:
  20 Sep 2011, 13:19 pm

  @cane(cane)-83:

  Remember last Friday Cane? I gave you a few reasons why i said Ireland would beat the Aussies, you answer was: I just won’t happen.

  Both teams aren’t at their best yet which means there’s no clear favourite. People are picking NZ to win based on reputation, rankings and past experiences.

  Funnily enough past RWC experiences should be an indicator that this won’t be easy for you guys.

  Like @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-86: pointed out, you won’t get quick ball from the rucks with Rolland handling the game as NH refs allow a certain degree of spoiling at the breakdown.

  Also, with the game at night you quick but risky passing will be much harder to execute in sticky conditions just like it happened in Brisbane. Add to that the pressure factor, grudge match scenario, McCaw playing on and off and the focus on his 100th match – France might just sneak it if you don’t dominate them upfront. If there’s parity there your backs won’t have a free run i’m afraid.

• 96.willievz:
  20 Sep 2011, 13:19 pm

  Play Aplon at 15 and we will lose the kicking battle.

• 97.mshiniwami:
  20 Sep 2011, 13:23 pm

  @hendrikp(hendrikp)-94:

  Do you remember Gaffie du Toit for Griquas in 98′???

  -If you ever saw him play that year you would have also proclaimed him to be the best 10 in the world in yrs to come…But we all know where that ended.

  The hype around Sadie & Goosen is a fair bit much for me.Good young players,but I dont want to see another Aaron Cruden type capitulation. Let them develop before open-ended proclaimations.

• 98.cane:
  20 Sep 2011, 13:24 pm

  @Transformation(Transformation)-89:

  chch is a Cantabrian.

  A real Kiwi yes,
  but a biased one nonetheless.
  The red and blacks cannot help themselves.

• 99.wpstormerbok:
  20 Sep 2011, 13:25 pm

  @willievz(willievz)-96:

  Yip, Aplon is now fighting for a backup wing spot against Ndungane. They’ll only be needed if either JP or Habana breaks down.

• 100.Heavens Game:
  20 Sep 2011, 13:25 pm

  @wpstormerbok(wpstormerbok)-95: One hundred percent right!

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