Bismarck’s the best
27 Sep 2011
Bismarck du Plessis has used the World Cup to enhance his reputation as the world’s No 1 hooker.
Du Plessis made an immediate impact for the Boks when he came off the bench in their World Cup opener against Wales, helping to turn a 16-10 deficit into a 17-16 victory.
‘To have a replacement hooker like Du Plessis coming off your bench is something no team in world rugby can match and is a massive weapon,’ Wales coach Warren Gatland said after the game. ‘He really put himself about in the time he was on. I’d say he was probably their most influential sub. I’m glad we didn’t have to play against him for longer.’
In the latest SA Rugby magazine – a 172-page bumper edition – we analyse Du Plessis’ season and lament the fact that he’s been relegated to the Bok bench to accommodate captain John Smit.
Also in the new issue:
– Conrad Smith and Ma’a Nonu are totally different players but together they form a potent midfield combination
– Wallabies coach Robbie Deans took a big gamble when he made James Horwill his new captain, just three weeks before the World Cup
– Heinrich Brüssow used the home leg of the Tri-Nations to fight his way into the Springboks’ World Cup squad
– How Bryan Habana rediscovered his form ahead of the World Cup
– Manu Tuilagi has brought muscle to England’s midfield
– Thirteen years after making his England debut, Jonny Wilkinson is still setting the example for his team-mates
– Having been left out of Ireland’s squad for the 2007 World Cup, Tommy Bowe made sure the selectors couldn’t ignore him in 2011
– Outgoing France coach Marc Lievremont will be remembered for his conservative approach to the game, odd selections and public outbursts
– Western Province flank Siya Kolisi has made the most of his opportunities in this year’s Currie Cup
– Sharks wing Sibusiso Sithole wants to refine his game
– Jaco Taute has all the attributes required to play at the highest level
– There’s something special about Johann Sadie
– Clint Newland and Ross Kennedy are playing an important part in EP’s rugby renaissance
– A host of players are representing their adopted countries at this year’s World Cup
– The Webb Ellis Cup is closely guarded when it travels around the world, but that wasn’t always the case
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351 Comments
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27 Sep 2011, 21:44 pm
@I am a stormer(I am a stormer)-247: Ratings Agencies… ahem… The dunces in class.
27 Sep 2011, 21:45 pm
@JockBok(JockBok)-248: Hubbada… hubbada…
27 Sep 2011, 21:50 pm
– How Bryan Habana rediscovered his form ahead of the World Cup
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Whaaaat?????
When the faaaark did he discover his form again?????
27 Sep 2011, 21:52 pm
@Kietzphat(Kietzphat)-7:
Though I was going blind when I read it too… Madness..
Looks like half the world is on Tik…
27 Sep 2011, 21:54 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-250:
I agree. When I talk about regulation, I mean laws that if broken will result in criminal charges. Not the US concept of civil suits.
27 Sep 2011, 21:55 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-176:
just “tonight” then ?
27 Sep 2011, 22:01 pm
@David(David)-255: Yeah, criminal charges… Madoff was put in chookey for a 65bill fraud… A Ghanain working for UBS was arrested recently for a 2bill stuffup… Piffle!
What is happening now is the biggest transfer of “wealth” ever known to mankind… from the many to the few.
But that “wealth” is but a figment of our imagination…. a representation of trust… The trust is being broken silly… And then poof goes the “wealth”…
(Note to myself – buy many, many cans of Heinz Beans)
27 Sep 2011, 22:02 pm
dunno who expects the capitalists to regulate themselves.. after all more is better.. the more you can score the better you will feel.. so who gonna be brave enough to regulate that … no such luck.. greed is a non regulatory commodity .. just as every other vice under the portfolio of man’s basic insatiable tendencies..
easy to talk about somebody regulating uncontrolled greed but its the very greedy that are at the helm of the system.. so how you actually expect them to regulate themselves when its totally against their inherent human nature to do so.
when any facet of life is put out of equilibrium it will automatically regulate itself and the consequences of the imbalance will simply take their natural course and readjust no matter who is still attached to a system way out of kilter and way off course.
27 Sep 2011, 22:06 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-257: you becoming a vegan.. good to see.. soon there gonna be no more bully beef patties to rub your avaricious gregarious nose in.. you simply gonna have to give up on beef stew.. cause only veggies are whats gonna be cooking.. to bad she cried.. just like uncle Greenspan gotta give up his ivory tower of cascading babel .. so too even you gonna have to give up your carrion you been scoffing and your Heineken for tomato juice.
27 Sep 2011, 22:07 pm
Revolution baby… Its in the air… Flying Pigs.
27 Sep 2011, 22:09 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-258:
Nature is a hanging judge.
The market is self regulating.
Let it take its course. But it won’t be pretty.
But if a crash is averted, the stuff-up is that we don’t learn from past mistakes.
That’s the infallibilty of mankind.
27 Sep 2011, 22:10 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-259: Fark that… I will be a caveman hunter… Big steaks plus Heinz Beans… Banshee can be the gatherer…
(Note to myself: Go buy a Crossbow)
27 Sep 2011, 22:11 pm
Or the inability of mankind
27 Sep 2011, 22:11 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-257:
Madoff is an individual. What I’m getting at is that the directors of companies like Goldman, B of A etc, should be criminally charged rather than the company being fined a pitifull amount.
27 Sep 2011, 22:14 pm
I will be like Denzel Washington in Book of Eli… (Reminds me… Must go get me a St James’s Bible… Can’t read braille in this apocalypse)
27 Sep 2011, 22:16 pm
@I am a stormer(I am a stormer)-261: \let it happen I say.. we think all this is unique because its happening now while we are alive.. far worse ‘adjustments’ and self regulating reactions have happened throughout our history.. what we have seen in the past 100 years is man becoming totally weakened by his own cocoon of pleasure he has embarked on building for himself… consumerism being the cradle of our conscious evolution as if we were born to shop till we drop…
let the bottom fall out and the reality hit the wall… sooner the better like every revolution the new must flush out the crusted inadequacy of the old.
27 Sep 2011, 22:17 pm
@David(David)-264: Thats what I was getting at one hundred percent… The individuals and the sums of money involved, though very large, are nothing compared to the “wealth” transfer happening or has happened… From people to Govts to Vampire Squid to fark knows where… Because they “too big to fail” or they “grease the wheels of the global economy”… And on it goes straight to slaughterhouse 5.
27 Sep 2011, 22:18 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-262: big talker.. one big bear come give you a big stare you go running back to Tesco’s for another can of whoopass Heinz beans … watch you become a vegan yet… beef farming is ABSOLUTELY uneconomical… and a TOTAL waste of natural resource.
27 Sep 2011, 22:22 pm
If you smile at me, I will understand
‘Cause that is something everybody everywhere does
in the same language.
I can see by your coat, my friend,
you’re from the other side,
There’s just one thing I got to know,
Can you tell me please, who won?
Say, can I have some of your purple berries?
Yes, I’ve been eating them for six or seven weeks now,
haven’t got sick once.
Probably keep us both alive.
Wooden ships on the water, very free and easy,
Easy, you know the way it’s supposed to be,
Silver people on the shoreline, let us be,
Talkin’ ’bout very free and easy…
Horror grips us as we watch you die,
All we can do is echo your anguished cries,
Stare as all human feelings die,
We are leaving – you don’t need us.
Go, take your sister then, by the hand,
lead her away from this foreign land,
Far away, where we might laugh again,
We are leaving – you don’t need us.
And it’s a fair wind, blowin’ warm,
Out of the south over my shoulder,
Guess I’ll set a course and go…
27 Sep 2011, 22:23 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-268: Going to be no more farming… The cows going to get feral, like on Chirikoff Island… Will be farken dangerous… Kill or be killed.
Will stash Heinz beans… will be new currency chap, when the lights go out….
27 Sep 2011, 22:23 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-266:
I listened to Moeletsi Mbebki (sp) last week. As he said, everyone in this country is chuffed that we’re part of the BRICS and G20.
Meanwhile, he said, the chances of South Africa going in the direction of Greece is huge. People only realise these things when it’s too late. No-one wants to listen to reason.
27 Sep 2011, 22:25 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-269: Ja, ja…
The wind of change
Blows straight into the face of time
Like a stormwind that will ring the freedom bell
For peace of mind
Let your balalaika sing
What my guitar wants to say
27 Sep 2011, 22:29 pm
told you awhile ago this WC 2011 might be the last.. don’t scoff at the idea that it might actually be a reality.. that RWC like Olympics and F1 motor racing might all be hitting the skids where the revenues required to pull off these white elephant extravaganza’s become simply totally untenable when mankind has far more pressing issues to contend with in the foreseeable future.
27 Sep 2011, 22:30 pm
Goodnight guys. I find this conversation far more interesting than the WC, but a few too many glasses of wine forces me to pursue it later.
27 Sep 2011, 22:30 pm
@I am a stormer(I am a stormer)-271: Nobody knows… Periphery, semi periphery and centre are not clear anymore… Like tectonic plates shifting but not knowing where to go. Division of labour counts for nought – Up to a third of the price of many commodities is due to speculation only… Armageddon it!
27 Sep 2011, 22:31 pm
@David(David)-274: Cheers
27 Sep 2011, 22:32 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-270: Speak to Tac. He’s got half a garage full left over from ’94. Does that stuff ever go off?
27 Sep 2011, 22:33 pm
@David(David)-274:
Cheers David
27 Sep 2011, 22:36 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-277:
Will make a note to myself… Will talk to Yank Militia, Blou Bull survivors from 1994 and Siener Van Rensburg believers about preparations for this sort of thing.
27 Sep 2011, 22:36 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-250:
the whole thing’s a complete joke, u got economics gurus spinning allsorts of equations that are complete horseshite, none of them got any clue how to model the market or risk, whatever the hell that is. what i cant understand is why anyone would think a perfect market clears or regulates itself, how was this crock propganda sold to ppl in the first place. if u think about it at it most fundamental, laissez fair capitalism is the complete opposite to what its held out to be, it will only tend toward monopoly, not more competition but less.
27 Sep 2011, 22:38 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-277:
I don’t think so. But even so, you’ll have the live the rest of your days at home with the windows open.
That’s if the missus lets you indoors.
27 Sep 2011, 22:41 pm
@I am a stormer(I am a stormer)-281: She’s eating the same beans, remember.
27 Sep 2011, 22:44 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-282:
27 Sep 2011, 22:44 pm
@cab(cab)-280: Ja you should talk – its because you physicist types got involved with your fancy equations about brownian motion and bullshi.tted dumb bankers and accountants that you could use this stuff with money… Equations related to farken movement of particles in muddy water!!!!! To farken money!!!? Yeah, you fcks pulled a fast one… now all these things run on automatic at light speed on computer… and a slip of the button… everything goes pear shaped… Sheezus when you okes start convincing gullible muthas on that that quantum bunkum then it all goes bang once and for all…
27 Sep 2011, 22:45 pm
@cab(cab)-280: man proposes….. somebody else disposes… that’s how it works or you science fundi’s reckon man can still control or monitor himself…??
Karma has the last laugh … always..
27 Sep 2011, 22:47 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-284: better get out that braille version of Gideons bullsh’t story for all you are worth… seems that all you gonna be banking your balls on next…
27 Sep 2011, 22:53 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-286: Struth! We all will be… I shityounot… And then the Yanks think its very clever triggering this whole Arab Spring thing… And now the Palestinians get all uppity and go to the UN making an application…. It isnt going to be pretty. You better go get yourself one of those “storybooks” too…
27 Sep 2011, 22:56 pm
“How Bryan Habana rediscovered his form ahead of the World Cup”
You have to wonder about the integrity of the SA Rugby mag….
27 Sep 2011, 22:57 pm
I remember I was in Israel in 75 when their economy was mushrooming with inflation much along similar lines to Zim recently.. the public telephones had slotted tokens you would buy at the corner store for about 10 shekels apiece.. till next week when they were worth 20 shekels.. so everyone was stashing phone booth tokens.. they were worth far more than the cash equivalent from a week ago… the currency of commodity is greater than the currency of devaluating proportion.
27 Sep 2011, 22:57 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-284:
well thats pretty interesting stuff, presumably u talking about models based on an irrational market, which is not what classical economic theory is based on, instead relying on models that are supposedly rational, perfect and predictable. Seems to me the brownian stuff is probably a better model if the market is irrational, tho if so, still not clear whether the system is inherently random or just too complex chaotic to be presently understood. But the equations used to model risk, for example subprime kak, are based on classic economic theory, i.e. the idea of perfect rational modellable markets, total kak. The bigger problem is not so much the theory but the greed underlying the support for neocon ideas heralding capitalism and perfect markets that stems out of a sense of personal greed. The models they base their risk on are based on this neoclassic idea of capitalism as a perfect economic model, but its fundamentally flawed.
27 Sep 2011, 23:01 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-289: Yeah, but it all inflates eventually… And its going to explode now.
27 Sep 2011, 23:02 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-285:
dont think any scientist worth his salt believes the words you watchatutus wrongly ascribe to them. The best one’s ALL without exception remark on how strange, mysterious and in awe of the universe they are, einstein, sagan, feynman, hawking you name it. It is mind-blowing stuff and they realise its only the tip of the iceberg.
think its a yiddish proverb, ‘man plans. god laughs’. then again all u religious whackos are completely insane and cant give any hard answers.
27 Sep 2011, 23:03 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-287: check out post 285: same answer applies..
if the sh’t gonna hit the fan let it rip and splatter across the walls cos thats what sh’t is designed to do.. splatter
we might think we are in control.. but bottom line truth of the matter is we ain’t… no matter how many Harvard Doctorates of high finance economics we got hanging on the boardroom wall
27 Sep 2011, 23:08 pm
@cab(cab)-290: Huh… Not talking equilibrium models or anything of the sort. Not talking political economy, Chicago school Friedman or Keynes or any messed up heterodoxy… I am not talking about any tribal economist paradigm or article of faith. I’m placing the blame on Mr Black and Mr Scholes… Their equation is the root of all financial American, European, Bermudan put and call, derivative, wrap yourself around in bulldust evil. Blaady Physicists.
27 Sep 2011, 23:10 pm
@cab(cab)-292: they been scratching at the surface like chickens in a coop.. not actually realizing the answer is staring them in the face between their non believing eyes…
Einstein, Feynman, Sagan etc might be a 100th of the way to where the mysteries unfold.. but they still locked up in the dark tunnel of no vision… that’s why the true scientist is in awe of mystery because he ‘knows’ deep down that there’s a damn sight more to himself than he is acutely aware of…
pity their dumb scholarly disciples aren’t nearly as astute students as their masters were who pioneered the search for their own relative truth.
27 Sep 2011, 23:11 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-293: And to think Central Bankers now do regularly what Gideon Gomo did in Zimbabwe… “Print” money…. Its going to end ugly….
(Must go buy a tent, just in case)
27 Sep 2011, 23:16 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-295: And then you get the Bayesian Mofos… What was Bayes… Strues Bob a theological maths nut… Now everything Google runs on Bayes… Madness.
27 Sep 2011, 23:20 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-294:
the equations are wrong, but they are being used to fit underlying bias’, which is the belief that capitalist markets are rational and clear themselves perfectly without regulation. They clear themselves alright, but of all competition. Thats the first problem, the second is the incorrect equations themselves deciding how to allocate risk etc and the third problem is the unrefulated banking sector, which is nothing less than gambling with someone else’s dough.
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-295:
all those scientists were steeped in scientific training, which is why the watchatuts never came up with e=mc2. they do not search for personal truths about themselves, but for objective truths about the universe. they knew deep down there was a damn site more to the universe, not theirselves – the latter is the realm of psychologists, who speak more kak than the economists.
27 Sep 2011, 23:22 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-297: Everyone online, or with a credit history, or who has a loyalty card, is classified now by some form of Bayesian hocus pocus that “predicts” what you are, what you like, what you going to do, what you dont like… Bigbrotherism… and most of us are sleepwalking into this Orwellian control…
(Must cut up credit cards and stash cash, gold, silver and platinum… Palladium also quite good I hear)
27 Sep 2011, 23:23 pm
@cab(cab)-298: Yes, thats what you get when you use equations describing muddy water and apply them to everyones money… One muddied mess… Physicists should be moered… Its their fault.
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