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		<title>By: optiplay(optiplay)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/10/01/england-vs-scotland-0930-ko/#comment-1998309</link>
		<dc:creator>optiplay(optiplay)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 21:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1998042&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TheAgent(TheAgent)-328&lt;/a&gt;: I hope you are right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1998042" rel="nofollow">TheAgent(TheAgent)-328</a>: I hope you are right.</p>
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		<title>By: SodaJoe(SodaJoe)</title>
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		<dc:creator>SodaJoe(SodaJoe)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 19:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1998256&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;JockBok(JockBok)-338&lt;/a&gt;: Hamish I am so sorry. That s a tough loss, you had the game for 78 minutes. Oi vey. Hard. But your boys did very well. 

Big Hit. Congratulations. A wins a win, and we know all about that.

Apologies to all of you, but Wales are the best of all the Northern Hemisphere teams. 

NZ Vs Wales Final. 2 Kiwi coaches.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1998256" rel="nofollow">JockBok(JockBok)-338</a>: Hamish I am so sorry. That s a tough loss, you had the game for 78 minutes. Oi vey. Hard. But your boys did very well. </p>
<p>Big Hit. Congratulations. A wins a win, and we know all about that.</p>
<p>Apologies to all of you, but Wales are the best of all the Northern Hemisphere teams. </p>
<p>NZ Vs Wales Final. 2 Kiwi coaches.</p>
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		<title>By: JockBok(JockBok)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 18:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fcking fucking fckity fckn fkrs.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fcking <acronym title="Keep it clean!">*******</acronym> fckity fckn fkrs&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: David(David)</title>
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		<dc:creator>David(David)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 15:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1998112&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Transformation(Transformation)-335&lt;/a&gt;: 
:lol:]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1998112" rel="nofollow">Transformation(Transformation)-335</a>:<br />
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		<title>By: Tartan(Tartan)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 15:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[England will be a different prospect in the play-offs sadly. They have that arrogance that creates belief in their abilities, no matter how limited.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>England will be a different prospect in the play-offs sadly. They have that arrogance that creates belief in their abilities, no matter how limited.</p>
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		<title>By: Transformation(Transformation)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 15:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1998077&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;David(David)-334&lt;/a&gt;: if brad still doesn&#039;t understand after this post, then he never will :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1998077" rel="nofollow">David(David)-334</a>: if brad still doesn&#8217;t understand after this post, then he never will <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: David(David)</title>
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		<dc:creator>David(David)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 15:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1998076&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;David(David)-333&lt;/a&gt;: 
Sorry!
Under the last SANZAR agreement, the ARU received 29% ($US93M) of total revenue with NZ and SA getting 33% ($US107M) and 38 % ($123M) respectively. As part of the protracted negotiations surrounding the awarding of the new Super 15 franchise, all SANZAR Nations agreed to split revenue from the new deal equally as each country would have 5 teams.
 
The trade off for this concession to the ARU was that the new broadcast deal only included Super 15 games and Tri-nations tests with each Nation being able to negotiate its own deals for rights to their respective in-bound international test and domestic competitions. When these revenues are added to the bottom line, things look decidedly paltry for the ARU.
 
It has been estimated that with Currie Cup and in-bound tests, SA Rugby has been able to negotiate an extra $US58M, an increase in revenue of 46% on the old agreement. The NZRU, whose NPC is estimated to be worth $US20M, will increase revenue by 13%, even before in-bound test revenue is factored into this figure.
 
With no third-tier competition to hock, the ARU stands to only increase revenues by 7% or $US7M before in-bound test revenues are considered, not a great prospect given the poor TV ratings of this year’s tests.
 
What is clear from these estimates is the ARU has very little scope to earn significant revenue outside of what it receives from its share of the SANZAR deal. Although the ARU increased its earnings from sponsorships and gate receipts by almost $A9M from 2007 to 2008, this increase included the sugar hit provided by the first overseas Bledisloe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1998076" rel="nofollow">David(David)-333</a>:<br />
Sorry!<br />
Under the last SANZAR agreement, the ARU received 29% ($US93M) of total revenue with NZ and SA getting 33% ($US107M) and 38 % ($123M) respectively. As part of the protracted negotiations surrounding the awarding of the new Super 15 franchise, all SANZAR Nations agreed to split revenue from the new deal equally as each country would have 5 teams.</p>
<p>The trade off for this concession to the ARU was that the new broadcast deal only included Super 15 games and Tri-nations tests with each Nation being able to negotiate its own deals for rights to their respective in-bound international test and domestic competitions. When these revenues are added to the bottom line, things look decidedly paltry for the ARU.</p>
<p>It has been estimated that with Currie Cup and in-bound tests, SA Rugby has been able to negotiate an extra $US58M, an increase in revenue of 46% on the old agreement. The NZRU, whose NPC is estimated to be worth $US20M, will increase revenue by 13%, even before in-bound test revenue is factored into this figure.</p>
<p>With no third-tier competition to hock, the ARU stands to only increase revenues by 7% or $US7M before in-bound test revenues are considered, not a great prospect given the poor TV ratings of this year’s tests.</p>
<p>What is clear from these estimates is the ARU has very little scope to earn significant revenue outside of what it receives from its share of the SANZAR deal. Although the ARU increased its earnings from sponsorships and gate receipts by almost $A9M from 2007 to 2008, this increase included the sugar hit provided by the first overseas Bledisloe.</p>
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		<title>By: David(David)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/10/01/england-vs-scotland-0930-ko/#comment-1998076</link>
		<dc:creator>David(David)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 15:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1998022&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Brads(Brads)-324&lt;/a&gt;: 
Here&#039;s the complete breakdown and explanation from an Aussie paper.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1998022" rel="nofollow">Brads(Brads)-324</a>:<br />
Here&#8217;s the complete breakdown and explanation from an Aussie paper.</p>
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		<title>By: TheAgent(TheAgent)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 14:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1998052&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Brads(Brads)-330&lt;/a&gt;: Aussies faarked everything up]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1998052" rel="nofollow">Brads(Brads)-330</a>: Aussies faarked everything up</p>
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		<title>By: TheAgent(TheAgent)</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheAgent(TheAgent)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 14:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1998052&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Brads(Brads)-330&lt;/a&gt;: Very unbalanced the knock-out round.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1998052" rel="nofollow">Brads(Brads)-330</a>: Very unbalanced the knock-out round.</p>
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		<title>By: Brads(Brads)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 14:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1998029&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TheAgent(TheAgent)-326&lt;/a&gt;: 
I was looking at from a differenct persective.

Aside from Ireland. England are the only credible team on the other side of the draw.

Had they lost today and come second in their pool, they would be on our side of the ledger come playoffs.

That being the case the knockout would have involved the 4 previous winners  who just happen to also be the 4 most likely winners this tournament.

Didn&#039;t happen!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1998029" rel="nofollow">TheAgent(TheAgent)-326</a>:<br />
I was looking at from a differenct persective.</p>
<p>Aside from Ireland. England are the only credible team on the other side of the draw.</p>
<p>Had they lost today and come second in their pool, they would be on our side of the ledger come playoffs.</p>
<p>That being the case the knockout would have involved the 4 previous winners  who just happen to also be the 4 most likely winners this tournament.</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t happen!</p>
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		<title>By: David(David)</title>
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		<dc:creator>David(David)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 14:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1998022&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Brads(Brads)-324&lt;/a&gt;: 
No, it was Australia that squeezed SARU for an extra 15%, I think it was. We were pretty pissed at that. In fact O&#039;Neil managed to whinge a number of concessions out of the new SANZAR/NewsCorp deal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1998022" rel="nofollow">Brads(Brads)-324</a>:<br />
No, it was Australia that squeezed SARU for an extra 15%, I think it was. We were pretty pissed at that. In fact O&#8217;Neil managed to whinge a number of concessions out of the new SANZAR/NewsCorp deal.</p>
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		<title>By: TheAgent(TheAgent)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/10/01/england-vs-scotland-0930-ko/#comment-1998042</link>
		<dc:creator>TheAgent(TheAgent)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 14:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[England 21 - 16
NZ 29 - 9
Ireland 19 - 16
SA  22 - 18]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>England 21 &#8211; 16<br />
NZ 29 &#8211; 9<br />
Ireland 19 &#8211; 16<br />
SA  22 &#8211; 18</p>
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		<title>By: TheAgent(TheAgent)</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheAgent(TheAgent)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 14:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[England over France by 5
NZ over Arg by 20
Ireland over Wales by 3
SA over Aus by 4]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>England over France by 5<br />
NZ over Arg by 20<br />
Ireland over Wales by 3<br />
SA over Aus by 4</p>
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		<title>By: TheAgent(TheAgent)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/10/01/england-vs-scotland-0930-ko/#comment-1998029</link>
		<dc:creator>TheAgent(TheAgent)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 14:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1998024&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Brads(Brads)-325&lt;/a&gt;: England only slightly better than Arg, but they tend to lift their game in play-offs. Think England will beat France, but then again the French still has to play that ONE BIG game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1998024" rel="nofollow">Brads(Brads)-325</a>: England only slightly better than Arg, but they tend to lift their game in play-offs. Think England will beat France, but then again the French still has to play that ONE BIG game.</p>
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		<title>By: Brads(Brads)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brads(Brads)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 14:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1998016&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TheAgent(TheAgent)-323&lt;/a&gt;: 
Agreed, too easy.

I was relishing the thought of our boys playing England next week.

Scots let me down!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1998016" rel="nofollow">TheAgent(TheAgent)-323</a>:<br />
Agreed, too easy.</p>
<p>I was relishing the thought of our boys playing England next week.</p>
<p>Scots let me down!</p>
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		<title>By: Brads(Brads)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brads(Brads)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 14:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1997999&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;David(David)-321&lt;/a&gt;: 
Sorry David we must still be talking cross purposes

The old agreement for all TV income was 38% for SA

SARU squeezed its partners in the 3N and Super 15 up to 48% in the latest deal.  

This is television rights only!.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1997999" rel="nofollow">David(David)-321</a>:<br />
Sorry David we must still be talking cross purposes</p>
<p>The old agreement for all TV income was 38% for SA</p>
<p>SARU squeezed its partners in the 3N and Super 15 up to 48% in the latest deal.  </p>
<p>This is television rights only!.<br />
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		<title>By: TheAgent(TheAgent)</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheAgent(TheAgent)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 14:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1998004&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Brads(Brads)-322&lt;/a&gt;: Talk about easy road to the semi! Tonga, Japan, France B, Canada, Argentina (shadow of the 07 team). Mmmmmm.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1998004" rel="nofollow">Brads(Brads)-322</a>: Talk about easy road to the semi! Tonga, Japan, France B, Canada, Argentina (shadow of the 07 team). Mmmmmm.</p>
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		<title>By: Brads(Brads)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brads(Brads)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 14:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1997965&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cab(cab)-317&lt;/a&gt;: 
England were the men possessed for the 10 minutes of the second half. 

Then they started their fibbly fumble routine and the Scots got back in the game. the 2nd half was a display of wannabe champions. Both teams were poor, the Scots were more than poor for a long while..

Jonny had a bad day at the office. Tough titties. His errors kept the Jocks in it and they should of held out, but for a brain explosion.

Sorry, I don&#039;t know who it was, but one of the backs collected the ball and instead of clearing it downfield he did the up and under miracle .

The resulting play from that brain fart moved England from facing NZ in the first playoff, back to the easy road on the other side of the draw.

I was really up beat about playing England. Now we go back to Argentina.  Tough guys, but they have something missing for me.... maybe hatred... nah that is too strong, but something close.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1997965" rel="nofollow">cab(cab)-317</a>:<br />
England were the men possessed for the 10 minutes of the second half. </p>
<p>Then they started their fibbly fumble routine and the Scots got back in the game. the 2nd half was a display of wannabe champions. Both teams were poor, the Scots were more than poor for a long while..</p>
<p>Jonny had a bad day at the office. Tough titties. His errors kept the Jocks in it and they should of held out, but for a brain explosion.</p>
<p>Sorry, I don&#8217;t know who it was, but one of the backs collected the ball and instead of clearing it downfield he did the up and under miracle .</p>
<p>The resulting play from that brain <acronym title="Keep it clean!">****</acronym> moved England from facing NZ in the first playoff, back to the easy road on the other side of the draw.</p>
<p>I was really up beat about playing England. Now we go back to Argentina.  Tough guys, but they have something missing for me&#8230;. maybe hatred&#8230; nah that is too strong, but something close.</p>
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		<title>By: David(David)</title>
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		<dc:creator>David(David)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 14:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1997983&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Brads(Brads)-319&lt;/a&gt;: 
Wrong. It&#039;s only 33%.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1997983" rel="nofollow">Brads(Brads)-319</a>:<br />
Wrong. It&#8217;s only 33%.</p>
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