KeoTV: Steyn setback hurts Boks

KeoTV: Steyn setback hurts Boks

1 Oct 2011

MARK KEOHANE says Frans Steyn’s injury has disrupted the balance of the Bok 22.


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  • 51.Bill Reyts: Reply to this comment
    1 Oct 2011, 18:38 pm

    Realistically we all know that we have very little chance of winning the world cup. We have scrapped two narrow wins and only now face the real contenders. It is 50/50 and bounce of the ball on the day. We have been a pretty average side for about 18 months and things don’t just change overnight. Although we all would LOVE to win the trophy – we are realists, whether Steyn was playing or not.

  • 52.frenchiebokfan: Reply to this comment
    1 Oct 2011, 19:04 pm

    Agreed, Gumboots. But tell me, which team do you think is out of reach of the Boks ? Australia, who got a slapping from such a poor nation as Ireland ? France ? England ? Come on, apart from NZ, all the other teams can be beaten by our boys. So, yes, we do have a strong chance of keeping the cup home, as this tournament is to be the most average one in a long time.

  • 53.Bill Reyts: Reply to this comment
    1 Oct 2011, 19:15 pm

    @frenchiebokfan(frenchiebokfan)-52:

    Mate it would be great to bring the trophy home, but Oz won’t be easy pickings come quarters, then NZ. Two tough games in a row. We haven’t been convincing at all. It was tough against Somoa – very tough and they are a second tier team.

  • 54.cab: Reply to this comment
    1 Oct 2011, 19:34 pm

    if carter is out, and we can get thru oz, nz are definitely beatable.

  • 55.malcolm: Reply to this comment
    1 Oct 2011, 19:38 pm

    @frenchiebokfan(frenchiebokfan)-52: I agree no team looks that impressive. I think there is far to much rugby during a World Cup Year all the unions are greedy. The top teams look jaded. Players are playing hurt. There is not way Samoa should be running the boks so close or Russia score 20 plus points against Australia or the US getting within 10 points of Ireland etc etc.

  • 56.fully: Reply to this comment
    1 Oct 2011, 20:05 pm

    i don’t wish injury on any springbok but if it has to be a Steyn then why couldn’t it have been the kak Steyn?

  • 57.cab: Reply to this comment
    1 Oct 2011, 20:42 pm

    the standard of world rugby has risen dramatically, look at the forward pack produced these days, they all can mix it with the big boys, and they also now have the coaches and structures that professionalism brings.

    there are very few weaknesses in any of the major teams these days.

    carter going down is huge tho, because its one position they have no real backup, wipes 20% of the AB value immediately.

  • 58.TheBoksAreBack: Reply to this comment
    1 Oct 2011, 21:33 pm

    This is a huge loss for boks. Makes the mountain so much steeper to climb.

  • 59.I am a stormer: Reply to this comment
    1 Oct 2011, 21:40 pm

    Oh my lord. It gets worse.

    Kirchner replaces Frans.

  • 60.I am a stormer: Reply to this comment
    1 Oct 2011, 21:44 pm

    @I am a stormer(I am a stormer)-59:

    Would rather have had Meisiekind. (only joking)

    Or Sadie, Daniller, Goosen, Ebersohn.

    What is Pdiv thinking?

    Clearly he isn’t.

    And he’ll probably play Kirchner at 13. Or something stupid.

  • 61.Jinx2: Reply to this comment
    1 Oct 2011, 21:49 pm

    @I am a stormer(I am a stormer)-60:
    Even Marius Joubert :)

  • 62.I am a stormer: Reply to this comment
    1 Oct 2011, 21:57 pm

    @Jinx2(Jinx2)-61:

    Kiwis are saying Carter is now out. Injuries to the stars are becoming crazy.

  • 63.Jinx2: Reply to this comment
    1 Oct 2011, 21:59 pm

    @I am a stormer(I am a stormer)-62:

    Time for a JW Black Label to send him on his way.

  • 64.kwas: Reply to this comment
    1 Oct 2011, 22:37 pm

    @I am a stormer(I am a stormer)-59: Clearly a political replacement. Kirchner has no hope in hell of playing in any of the knockout games. Even if Lambie is injured they will select Aplon ahead of Kirchner at 15. As for centre cover, De Jongh will slot in if JDV or Jaque injured.

  • 65.I am a stormer: Reply to this comment
    1 Oct 2011, 22:44 pm

    @kwas(kwas)-64:

    Agreed. Lambie is now the no. 1 FB in the sqaud with Gio as adequate cover.

    My concern is that we only have 3 centres in the squad, but 4 wings.

    I would have rather sent another centre across eg Sadie or Ebersohn.

  • 66.SAussie/QldRed: Reply to this comment
    1 Oct 2011, 22:50 pm

    I thinking it might not have been a bad thing that we lost to Ireland. Books minus steyn and blacks minus Carter, just think bok fans, if you win this world cup no one will ever say you didn’t earn it

  • 67.kwas: Reply to this comment
    1 Oct 2011, 23:08 pm

    @I am a stormer(I am a stormer)-65: As I said, they needed a political replacement and Sadie/Ebersohn is not. We all know Sadie is superior to the other rubbish available, with Kirchner the worst choice possible.

  • 68.kwas: Reply to this comment
    1 Oct 2011, 23:13 pm

    @SAussie/QldRed(SAussie)-66: Blacks will take the Cup without Carter. However, without Richie they will struggle as he is the true warrior.

  • 69.Slumtown: Reply to this comment
    1 Oct 2011, 23:16 pm

    @I am a stormer(I am a stormer)-59: Where did you hear that? My lord these guys have no idea. Kirchner adds zero value. Theyre so one dimensional.
    Dammit.

  • 70.Samba Bok: Reply to this comment
    1 Oct 2011, 23:16 pm

    The loss of Frans is devastating for the Boks. I think that has significantly reduced our chances of winning the RWC. Frans brought new shape to the backline. His distribution skills are excellent. 10 times better than JdV. Dirty Samoans. Probably on the ABs payrolls to injury the Boks big playmakers.

    Contrary to what people think of Morne he is actually essential to our RWC campaign. His goal-kicking is vital to winning a championship like this. With Frans on his outside Morne looked far more comfortable. We will not win this RWC with that carthorse JdV. Absolutely gutted for Frans Steyn. Fans deserve to see the best players performing on the biggest stage. I would like to know if a Samoan clothesline tackle damaged his shoulder.

    Its blatantly a Aus/NZ conspiracy to put the Boks in a group with two Islander teams yet again! They’ve succeeded in ensuring the wheels fall off for us. Can’t De Jongh take over from Steyn? Anyone but JdV. I’ve lost all faith in him since seeing Frans playing at 12.

  • 71.Slumtown: Reply to this comment
    1 Oct 2011, 23:20 pm

    Dan Carter ruled out of rest of Rugby World Cup – injuries are diluting this cup radically as well as all the mismatches.

  • 72.Slumtown: Reply to this comment
    1 Oct 2011, 23:22 pm

    @Samba Bok(JayDaFiveOh)-70: Well was just saying on the injury front Sa in comparison to Oz and NZ are looking a lot better in general. Depending of course on news of JP and Houghaard and Bakkies. Losing Steyn is a huge loss but at least we have some form a repalcement. If Jean plays I´m not sure what will happen – anyone notice he is the one that was the last line of defence in the Samoan try? Couldnt get under Stowers to deny him or ruck him back. At least JP ripped the ball in that near miss try for Samoa when the guy lost it. Direct result of JP ripping the ball. Legend.

  • 73.Samba Bok: Reply to this comment
    1 Oct 2011, 23:31 pm

    @Slumtown(Slumtown)-72: How many times has JPP saved our ***?! Good grief. He is Mr reliable 9 out of 10 times. JdV is a poor defender given his size. I think De Jongh is a better tackler than him and he is half his size.

    I cannot understand how Kirchner can be called up. He hasn’t played any international rugby this year and is mr butterfingers. What about Sias? Good god SA is incredibly short on talent at no.12. We should be producing at least 3 Frans Steyns every few years.

  • 74.Jinx2: Reply to this comment
    2 Oct 2011, 05:50 am

    @Slumtown(Slumtown)-72:

    Are you having a zarnie on Kidd’s beach again?

  • 75.NagouGrote: Reply to this comment
    2 Oct 2011, 21:31 pm

    Frans is a blow. I the closest we will get to replacing him is with Butch at 12 Jean on the wing and JP at fullback. I think we will then have the physicality required.

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