the same man who told everyone meyer bosman is he new “lem” pffft

hamba uyodontsa ucingo lukaPuma tl tl tl

Fransie was also part of the team that beat ABs in New Zealand in 2009. He got the last long range kick in that sealed it. Did you not remember or have you conveniently forgotten?

In this world cup if you could not see how superb he played at inside centre then you are on your own. Cause you won’t find any blogger on any rugby site in the whole of the www that will agree with you. You have no clue what we lost with Frans playing 12. Just can’t or rather won’t discuss this with you any further. You making a complete fool of yourself if you dissing Fransie and you can’t see what Fransie brought to the team at inside centre. That is his best position and he should never have lost it to JdV after wc 2007.

Our whole backline will suffer if Butch or JdV don’t step up. With Frans there I can tell you Oz would be worried so would Nz. So they should be. Most teams would. The reason those Samoans thugs targeted him.

Couldn’t agree with you more Puma – the whole Bok infrastructure is predictable – powerful platform, but predictable – Frans danced on that stage and nobody knew what he would do next: he is the X-factor that takes the entire collective of the team to the next level …

But included in that – probably most importantly for this sort of rugby, i.e. World Cup knockout – place kicking and drop goals are critical, if not the way of winning the major games – which are all predicated on defence. With Morne so accurate – with the so-called “bad rugby ball” they are using – and Frans lethal – we had an advantage over all the other teams and it was the basis of our game plan.

Heck – so important is that role – I would actually, crazy as it sounds, have him on the bench with his bad shoulder, to bring on if it was a 2-point game and 5 minutes to go. He doesn’t kick with his shoulder …

That’s how good that guy is and how big the loss. |’ve always said that … play him at centre, fullback or wing – he will deliver (but oddly, not fly-half; keep him away from that – though, given his form, maybe risk another try at that).

The guy is that good – he’s got everything: boot, boot and more boot of every type, can tackle – can run – has uncanny anticpation and postional play – sheer rugby once-in-a-lifetime genius …. and glamour, throw that in as well. .

JdJ and JdV never pass. Though JdJ can find a gap. We need a BIG strong 12 that can cover for Morne. So JdJ is out the picture I think.

PdV will go with JdV. Just hope he has a better game this Sunday. No more chances after this.

They will target our 10/12 channel all game long now that Frans is gone.

Who would you have played there then? Jeez you talk rubbish.

Or better not start with our key players. Samoans were only there to injure us nothing more. Thugs.

Chams = Champs

wdc = wc

For that matter wdc 2007

BIL 2009

Tri-Nations Chams 2009

Transie don’t get me started on this man, you talking rubbish if you think Frans Steyn was not up to it. Only in your dreams. He was brilliant. If you could not see that you have not a clue.

And 2007 WC…?

And Racing Metro…?

No hype, but it doesnt matter now, Frans is gone.

Please can we have a decent coach next year for Boks ???

The only time to my mind that Butch has played 12 recently has been a few times with the Lions… But playing for the Lions, not known for D, is a far cry from facing Aus in a WC QF

Not sure whether Butch will be better than JdV at 12. I reckon him and Morne Steyn are even more on a different page than JdV and Steyn.

I believe that if JdJ had more opportunities at 12 then he would undoubtedly be our best option after Frans Steyn. He is too much of an unknown because he hasn’t been tested enough at the highest level. An indictment on the bad planning pointed out in the articles on Keo.

Although these Keo fools are right about bad planning they look in the wrong places. Morne Steyn is our best option at FH – he is the best points machine on the planet at the moment and he is comfortable with FdP at 9. Morne Steyn is more valuable to the Boks than Butch is at 10.

It is obvious that these guys keep promoting Butch because we are all stared at by the man every day we log on. I wouldnt be surprised if Butch is represented by this HSM publishing setup in the same way Puke is. It does not look good and is a clear conflict of interest.

I like Butch, but he is no better option than Morne.

Frans was off loading in the tackle. Something JdV won’t or can’t do. Another thing to tackle Fransie, it took a few players to do that so taking them out of position. Making gaps for us.

Think our best bet with the players there is to start with Butch.