KeoTV: Butch no impact player

KeoTV: Butch no impact player

6 Oct 2011

RYAN VREDE gives his thoughts on the make-up of the Springbok 22 to play the Wallabies on Sunday.


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  • 451.David: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 14:31 pm

    @Hondo(Hondo)-444:
    Yeah, but that was the common wisdom in the mid eighties. I had a lot of arguments about it. Now, the web is basically driven by some flavour or other of UNIX, the MacOS is Unix and Open Source is becoming more and more attractive to governments world wide.

  • 452.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 14:31 pm

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-445: he had a four year contract, he is seeing it out, what do you mean he has been “fired”?

  • 453.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 14:33 pm

    @Transformation(Transformation)-447: I dont know why you might use France as a benchmark for Bok rugby… Is it because you think France are better than the Boks, that Lievremont is the benchmark for Dippy?

    Strange that…

  • 454.David: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 14:33 pm

    @stormer in a teacup(stormer in a teacup)-449:
    Yes, we were talking about it earlier, although Tacitus begged to differ.

  • 455.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 14:35 pm

    @willievz(willievz)-448: :lol: Madness… But method…? I dunno. “By their fruits we judge them….” :wink:

  • 456.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 14:36 pm

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-445: this is what you said “No normal Rugby playing nation on the planet would have appointed him coach of their elite national Rugby team in a million years, but then again South Africa is no normal Rugby playing nation.”

    yet france have had a coach who only had French 2nd division & U21 honours, won the 6 Nations with him, bliksemed both the Bokke and All Blacks in 2009 and now is making unprecedented media gaffes on New Zealand.

    is france an ABnormal rugby playinng nation?

  • 457.madvillain: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 14:36 pm

    @Transformation(Transformation)-440:
    Ditto Martin Johnson

  • 458.stormer in a teacup: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 14:37 pm

    As a coach P Divvy seems to have brought nothing new to the Bks other than a “steady as she goes, carry on Bossboy” approach. But I love the colour he brings to the role. I can’t think of any other country that would have a coach as whacky as he is constantly. There is never anything boring about being a South African. Long may it be so.

  • 459.Hondo: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 14:38 pm

    The Boks now have a good chance to advance, but the forwards will have to play some rugby for a change, the rain and wind will reduce Morne Styen’s effective range to a diagonal 35m so the skirmishes will have to take place within the Wallabies’ own 40m
    Fran Styen and Bakkie are colossal losses, with JdV back at 12 the ball will not travel far wide; some consider it a blessing, better than waste good ball on the wings.

  • 460.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 14:39 pm

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-453: i’m not “benchmarking” anything. who qualifies to be a “normal rugby playing nation” and who doesn’t according to YOU hg? :D

  • 461.goyougoodthing2: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 14:39 pm

    @stormer in a teacup(stormer in a teacup)-458: You would rather have an idiot than a coach. And ,at that, an arrogant, stupid and useless one at that who sniffs the jocks of his Captain?

    Nice

  • 462.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 14:40 pm

    @Transformation(Transformation)-452: I mean the French acknowledge he is an unmitigated disaster… from players to media to administrators to rugby public… But as long as you think Lievremont is a lowest common denominator… Go ahead… ” If you look at the Bible, Joseph started out in the pit and ended up in the palace.”

  • 463.madvillain: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 14:41 pm

    These are by far the most disciplined boks.

    The coach should be credited for that at the very least.

    No dwarfs. No ball fixing. No twitts. No flankwers winging it. No player revolts. No booze binges or alcoholism.

    Just sensible press conferences. Even the Haka comment generated a healthy debate around the world.

    Only the Irish and the Welsh have been as quiet.

    Only snag is hanging on to Bakkies for three weeks.

  • 464.trupisero: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 14:41 pm

    found this video of Skop and dawn today…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zKsqdJz7F-I

  • 465.stormer in a teacup: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 14:42 pm

    @ David. Of course. Jobs was not from Pretoria.

  • 466.Gunther: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 14:43 pm

    Transie in full Deborah Patta mode.

  • 467.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 14:45 pm

    @stormer in a teacup(stormer in a teacup)-458: i read somewhere that “for advances in innovation a change in belief is often necessary”

    and someone earlier quoted how apple was supposed to be a tech company and how ‘gadgets’ couldn’t be sold as commodities…someone had to believe ot could be done.

    same thing with the boks in 2008, pdv believed he could have the Boks playing differently but was met with blatant disbelief in his thinking and because of whatever reason/s – s_ex tapes etc – he toed the line and played kick n chase/structure (our supposed traditional strengths)

  • 468.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 14:46 pm

    @Transformation(Transformation)-456: I doubt France would have appointed De Villiers despite his surname…. For a start he never played international rugby and he never had a coaching record of note… Lievremont was a France International. Laporte was a coach of note before coaching France… Just two examples…

    Spin it right round baby, right round…. :lol:

  • 469.Big Hit: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 14:47 pm

    @trupisero(trupisero)-464: what’s that all about then? only word I understood was the f-word :)

  • 470.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 14:47 pm

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-462: is that what they were saying in 2009?

    what changed?

  • 471.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 14:47 pm

    @Transformation(Transformation)-467: Excuses, excuses… But we all Luv Dippy… for the mean time anyway. :lol:

  • 472.stormer in a teacup: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 14:48 pm

    @461. Goodthing. Way to completely misread a post. The juvenile response did you no credit either.

  • 473.Gunther: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 14:48 pm

    @stormer in a teacup(stormer in a teacup)-465:

    actually he was adopted (steve not tacitus).

    so he could well have been.

    just saying.

  • 474.trupisero: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 14:48 pm

    @Big Hit(Big Hit)-469: think Skop’s advances were rejected :)

  • 475.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 14:50 pm

    @Transformation(Transformation)-470: I dont know why you are benchmarking Dippy with the worst coach at the Rugby World Cup. Why?

    Who the hell do you think you are by insulting our Bok coach in such a way? :lol:

  • 476.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 14:51 pm

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-468: Jake White wasn’t an international and had no coaching record of note – in fact it would be fair to say they were equally qualified, what makes his appointment different from PdV’s in your mind?

    would it be fair to say that “no normal rugby playing nation” would appoint Jake White, not in a million years?

    he won in 2007 but only go the next coaching job from a franchise in 2010…

  • 477.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 14:52 pm

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-471: no excuses just putting my opinion put there.

  • 478.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 14:54 pm

    @Transformation(Transformation)-476: I agree. The useless *******. An average win/loss ratio and lucky World Cup Victory… The swine… :lol:

  • 479.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 14:55 pm

    @Transformation(Transformation)-477: I object to you placing Dippy in the same company as an abject failure such as Lievremont… You have no farken shame :lol:

  • 480.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 14:56 pm

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-468: so being an international player is the desired qualification to being a good coach? hehehe woza la mhlathi wakho :D

  • 481.carol: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 14:56 pm

    @Big Hit(Big Hit)-469:
    I think she was a teeny bit cross!!

  • 482.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 14:57 pm

    @Transformation(Transformation)-476: An i was referring to France not SA… I think you might be confusing the two nations now, “sbali”… You may need to go back to the drawing board… the cutting room floor… :wink:

  • 483.carol: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 14:58 pm

    @Transformation(Transformation)-477:
    I hope you gave Dawn some music suggestions…othwerwise I may just have to put her out of her misery!

  • 484.Mike H: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 14:59 pm

    @Transformation(Transformation)-456:

    Touche :)

    Lievermonte is a Pdiv wannabe :)

  • 485.Mike H: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 15:00 pm

    @trupisero(trupisero)-464:

    ROFL :)

  • 486.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 15:00 pm

    @Transformation(Transformation)-480: I dont say it is right, but it does seem to be the way the French do things. And England… and most Nations at the RWC: Their coach is either a former International or they were an excellent coach with Club or Province… In general. :wink:

  • 487.carol: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 15:00 pm

    In the last 4 weeks has anyone here recognised that actually…

    Percy Montgomery won the last Webb Ellis for you and without him basically the Boks are a bit of a tight spot! :-)

  • 488.Mike H: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 15:01 pm

    @goyougoodthing2(goyougoodthing2)-461:

    Bit below the belt – you must be getting rattled

  • 489.David: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 15:02 pm

    @Gunther(gunther)-473:
    I doubt it. His birth father was Syrian. :lol:

  • 490.NZINCHINA: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 15:03 pm

    Four years of abuse and banter all coming to a head on Sunday, good stuff.

  • 491.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 15:03 pm

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-482: tl tl tl deflections , smoke screens etc :D

  • 492.David: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 15:05 pm

    @carol(carol)-487:
    Nah, Percy was just there to get the English women to support the Boks. :lol:

  • 493.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 15:05 pm

    @carol(carol)-483: send her your playlist, mine needs editing.

  • 494.David: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 15:06 pm

    @NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-490:
    And then it’ll start all over again. :wink:

  • 495.Mike H: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 15:07 pm

    “If I listened to 43 million opinions, I believe I would be lost. I’m not concerned about Ricky’s form. Look, if you go to a black mechanic and he doesn’t fix your car, you don’t go back. If you go to a white mechanic and he doesn’t fix your car, you go back and make sure he fixes the problem. What I am saying is give Ricky a chance.’’

    Now that is one serious quote – imagine a white guy said that

  • 496.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 15:07 pm

    @David(David)-492: touche :razz: and h succeded

  • 497.once more unto the breach, dear springboks, once more...: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 15:08 pm

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-439:
    :lol:

    thanks for dusting those beauties off.
    and to pieter de villiers i would like to say, thanks for the memories…
    :lol:

  • 498.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 15:08 pm

    @Transformation(Transformation)-491: See post 486. Keep up… And btw another difference is that Lievremont or any National coach for any other team at the RWC would have a melanin quotient as a factor in his selection… Right or wrong, but definitely unique….

    Bahla! :lol:

    But we all love Dippy… He will part the seas and lead us to the promised land… the land of milk and honey… A Godgiven gift of biblical proportions… He says so himself :wink:

  • 499.Gunther: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 15:08 pm

    @David(David)-489:

    there are plenty of kebab shops in pretoria.

  • 500.carol: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 15:09 pm

    @David(David)-492:
    Cunning plan, it worked I know at least 3 other Percy ‘addicts’ !!

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