KeoTV: Butch no impact player

KeoTV: Butch no impact player

6 Oct 2011

RYAN VREDE gives his thoughts on the make-up of the Springbok 22 to play the Wallabies on Sunday.


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  • 301.ufo: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 11:42 am

    @Staal(Staal)-287:

    cool bud… !!

  • 302.Boksarenumber3: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 11:44 am

    Anyone who is happy with Smitty the Fatty starting needs councelling
    PDV needs time in a mental institution

  • 303.wpstormerbok: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 11:44 am

    @Slumtown(Slumtown)-298:

    I’m making a note of it right away :-)

    Haven’t heard of them/him, is it a group/rappers/producers?

  • 304.Boksarenumber3: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 11:45 am

    @justrugby(justrugby)-297:

    lol

  • 305.ufo: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 11:45 am

    @once more unto the breach, dear springboks, once more…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-295:

    of course bud…

    not saying you should have a warm-n-fuzzy about him… but to deny his track record is like saying john smit is useless… hehehe…

  • 306.youknowwho: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 11:45 am

    @Gunther(gunther)-280: I am not sure how you arrived at your assumptions about my shape.. but I will rather accept the adulations of good looking females than the assumptions of a wannabe nazi who cannot understand why black dudes get so lucky with hot white chics. ;-)

  • 307.David: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 11:46 am

    @ufo(ufo)-296:
    Jobs actually got the idea for drag and drop from the Xerox PARC labs, although anyone whoever saw the Xerox Star, which had it, would realise that there’s a world of difference between it and the Apple Lisa, which was Apples first GUI attempt.

  • 308.Puma: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 11:46 am

    @Slumtown(Slumtown)-291: Good thinking there ST. That would be a insane loose trio. NO team would live with those 3. Heck doubt Pocock will see anything…lol. You are totally spot on there. If Brussow is playing with a niggle move Burger to 8, Flo to 7 with Brussow. Brilliant. Also say bring on Bissie for the 2nd half. Man we gonna mess them up. If we have those loosies with Bissie. Just a pity Beast is not on the bench.

    Good post ST.

  • 309.Boksarenumber3: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 11:47 am

    @cab(cab)-300:

    I agree 100%.
    Its a tragedy that Smitty is in the Bok 22 team, never mind the starting line up.
    In fact its a f-ucking disgrace

  • 310.wpjoulekkading: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 11:47 am

    They always go so overboard in their opinions.
    I mean, James could do fine as a sub. He covers center, he covers 10. He can pass, he can kick. So he’s not Quade Cooper. Does that mean he can’t play on the bench? No. Does it mean it’s a horrible choice to put him there? No.

    Of course people can argue he should start in front of Steyn, but this histerics just because James is on the bench is ridiculous.

  • 311.Puma: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 11:48 am

    @Boksarenumber3(Boksarenumber1)-302: Give it up with the insults to Peter. It really is not necessary.

  • 312.wpstormerbok: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 11:49 am

    @justrugby(justrugby)-297:

    I’ve never seen myself as overly sensitive, just don’t agree that disrespecting others whether online, in public, private, at workplace, on the sports field or wherever is appropriate.

    I didn’t ask if you’d insult people face to face as that is easy to do, even kids do it.

    But decency sit nie in almal se broek ni.

  • 313.cane: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 11:49 am

    @wpstormerbok(wpstormerbok)-270:

    I was talking about PdV.

    8)

  • 314.David: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 11:50 am

    @wpjoulekkading(wpjoulekkading)-310:
    Ryan started it and shows a complete lack of understanding about the role of a bench. He seems to think it’s just there for impact players.

  • 315.ufo: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 11:50 am

    @David(David)-307:

    i stand corrected… thank you…

  • 316.Slumtown: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 11:50 am

    @wpstormerbok(wpstormerbok)-303: He is an electronic producer for Warp records – but lately his stuff is pretty much like Gramatik – every single album he released has been total quality. Really made his name with Smokers Delight but the later albums are more in this Gramatik style. He also has his own label Wax on records. Its more chilled out but has so many references and nods to great funk and jazz artists – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W98wCG5jyGI&feature=related

  • 317.>^..^< katman: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 11:51 am

    @youknowwho(youknowwho)-306: Well, apart from your self confessed likeness to your idol, Hugo Chavez, you just sound fat in your posts. There is a certain resigned smugness that comes with “living large” (think Newman in Seinfeld), and your comments are absolutely marinated in this.

  • 318.Boksarenumber3: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 11:51 am

    @Puma(Puma)-311:

    PDV = Moron

    Quota Special!

  • 319.cane: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 11:52 am

    @youknowwho(Shaun the Nazi Hunter)-283:

    I never went to Keo’s Hotel.

    I went to a Campervan Site, to leave a bottle of plonk at Reception for JC and Ryan.

    These Guys, (and ALL other Contributors), have given me huge entertainment over the last 5 or 6 years.
    To spend 29 seconds in their Company, slightly embarassed, made my day.

    8)

  • 320.Puma: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 11:53 am

    Butch will only probably come on if JdV or Morne if they pick up a injury. Doubt they will use him as a impact player.

  • 321.David: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 11:53 am

    @ufo(ufo)-315:
    That’s OK. :lol:
    It’s just that I’ve been in IT since the days of the Apple II and was heavily involved with Apple, so I have a bit more experience than most regarding the company and its history.

  • 322.wpstormerbok: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 11:54 am

    @cab(cab)-300:

    I hear you man, Div’s made his decision so now it’s up to JS to back this faith in him up.

    If he doesn’t than he’s let himself and his team down and that’s something he’ll have to deal with.

  • 323.ufo: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 11:54 am

    @Puma(Puma)-311:

    well said puma bud…

    the only slightly amusing thing about his/her posts is the fact he/she doesn’t realise most people simply ignore his/her juvenile utterances…

  • 324.John Galt: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 11:54 am

    @once more unto the breach, dear springboks, once more…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-238:
    Is you name John Scully. Read below.
    And the only Apple product I own is an ipod. The old one.

    @Transformation(Transformation)-273:
    That …bakkies I love you oke is a moron.

    As for Tac, its his predicitable MO coming out again.
    He knows its a bit of a controvesial thing to say so he says it then backs down his little hole and watched the melee from afar. Cowardly if you ask me.

    As for Jobs, sorry I have to cut and paste from wiki, I hate doing it but…

    Jobs was awarded the National Medal of Technology by President Ronald Reagan in 1984 with Steve Wozniak (among the first people to ever receive the honor), and a Jefferson Award for Public Service in the category “Greatest Public Service by an Individual 35 Years or Under” (also known as the Samuel S. Beard Award) in 1987. On November 27, 2007, Jobs was named the most powerful person in business by Fortune Magazine.
    On November 5, 2009, Jobs was named the CEO of the decade by Fortune Magazine. In September 2011, Jobs was ranked No.17 on Forbes: The World’s Most Powerful People. In December 2010, the Financial Times named Jobs its person of the year for 2010, ending its essay by stating, “In his autobiography, John Sculley, the former PepsiCo executive who once ran Apple, said this of the ambitions of the man he had pushed out: ‘Apple was supposed to become a wonderful consumer products company. This was a lunatic plan. High-tech could not be designed and sold as a consumer product.’ How wrong can you be”

  • 325.>^..^< katman: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 11:55 am

    @cane(cane)-319: Please qualify those initials, caner. Our Shaun is having a speaking-in-tongues episode. He thinks you went to meet ***** at the caravan park.

  • 326.ufo: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 11:55 am

    @cane(cane)-319:

    so where’s the bottle of plonk for all of us plonkas then…?? :wink:

    hehehe

  • 327.>^..^< katman: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 11:55 am

    @>^..^< katman(katman)-325: ***** = J e s u s

  • 328.youknowwho: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 11:55 am

    @>^..^< katman(katman)-265: I have only been a positive influence on this site ;-) … I have managed to get rid of all the blatant twats but I have still got a bit of work to do in respect of twats who hide behind Gunther. I reckon that dealing with Gunther first makes sense so excuse me if I ignore you for a while ;-)

  • 329.ufo: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 11:57 am

    @David(David)-321:

    i was a cobol programmer back in the day… used punch-cards back then… pcs were toys that mainframe users were waaaay above… :wink:

    how quickly things changed…!! :lol:

  • 330.wpstormerbok: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 11:57 am

    @cane(cane)-313:

    I realized that on second look, humble apologies cane :-) !

    @David(David)-314:

    Correct, I can live with someone disagreeing but then he has to come up with a valid point and not some wet paper bag argument.

  • 331.Puma: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 11:57 am

    @wpstormerbok(wpstormerbok)-299: Still think we must bring Bissie on. Then probably in the last 30min.

    I feel we will bring him on after the break.

  • 332.Slumtown: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 11:57 am

    @Puma(Puma)-308: Thanks – just hope they consider this and not only think of Francois Louw as a replacement in case Heinrich gets injured. If the tactic is to starve Oz of the ball then that is as mean as it gets. Perhaps the only other thing you could do is put Alberts on in Tandem with Rossouw but theyre never going to sub Matfield. But that would be really insane. I doubt the Ozzies would see any ball. Its all about selection and combinations and i´m glad to see that they have been very open this World Cup as evidenced by Frans Steyn repalcing Jean after just 1 great game, by the willingess to get Houghaard involved and keeping Lambie at 15. Perhaps Rassie is having a bigger influence than we may know? Either way at least we can see the thinking is not static and having Louw on the bench instead of 2 props is evidence of this. They have quite rightly identified Pocock as the danger man. the backs are lethal and theres not much we can do about that except starve them of ball. Only way to do that is dominate set pieces and breakdown. So I´m hoping thats the thinking. We must nullify their backs if we want to win this one. look at the Samoa game – a guy like Tuilagi is only effective if given space and ball – otherwise he was the least of our worries – in fact he harldy figured in the game.

  • 333.>^..^< katman: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 11:58 am

    @youknowwho(youknowwho)-328: Close your mouth when you type, Langers. You’re dribbling smileys all over your post.

  • 334.rossoneri: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 11:58 am

    @cane(cane)-319: You’re a sweet heart Cane. :lol:

  • 335.justrugby: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 11:58 am

    @wpstormerbok(wpstormerbok)-312:

    Then you need to be consistent, just about everybody on here is disrespectful at one time or another. (Again saying harden the fark up, is that being disrespectful??)

    I think you are being disrespectful by signaling me out, there are far worse than me, pick on them for goodness sake!!! ? :)

  • 336.cane: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 11:59 am

    @David(David)-314:

    True, David.

    First and foremost the bench is Insurance.

  • 337.wooden spoon: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 11:59 am

    @cab(cab)-292: please do the “forensic searching” if you must.

    Despite that, you alone seem to have taken my initial general challenge very personally… And all you have done since is try to deflect the attention away from yourself by hurling insults at me and making (baseless) allegations. That says a lot.

    Do you feel guilty about something? Do you feel bad that you now personally criticise John Smit (with the mob) every day like a broken record?

    I say it again: Whatever happened in the previous 4 years, the RWC is the culmination of all of that, the Boks have made it their main goal. It is too late to change anything now, and you and me have no influence whatsoever over team selection or tactics. So why gnash your teeth in dismay? Get behind your team and take the win, or the loss.

    But it is the positioning that gets to me… too many people lining themselves up for a big “I told you so” should the Boks fail… no way can they be fully behind the team (when they don’t even support the captain), I bet when the score starts turning against the Boks a part of themselves starts willing on the defeat just so that they can say “I told you so.”

    A sort of mini triumph in defeat.

  • 338.wpstormerbok: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 11:59 am

    @Slumtown(Slumtown)-316:

    Sick, sounds like DJ Premier on cr@ck LOL :-) !

    Will be expanding my playlist by the end of today 8)

  • 339.ufo: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 11:59 am

    @John Galt(John Galt)-324:

    steve who…??? :wink: :lol:

    good post…

    even if it came from wiki…

  • 340.willievz: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:00 pm

    @Puma(Puma)-311: I agree.

    It is a big relief that Keo bloggers and journalists are not picking the Bok 22.

    And I include myself in that category.

    To all bloggers and journalists – please support our Boks, in POSITIVE fashion, whether or not you agree with the team. It is my team, my country, and I will not tolerate negative critique to my beloved Boks that will not do their chances any good.

  • 341.Slumtown: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:01 pm

    @Puma(Puma)-320: My reckoning is he´s there as insurance in case Morne gets injured because Lambie hasnt had enough time at 10 for such a high pressure game. You dont want to be relying on him with 60 minutes on the clock – not saying he cant do it but its a huge gamble if Morne picks up and early injury and second in all likeliness he will replace Jean if Jean doesnt pick his game up. Theyve identified Jean as problematic after Steyn illuminated what can happen if the 12 distributes the ball and tries to step. So I think his inclusion was a good one tactically. Obviously youd rather have de Jongh as a sub for 12 but Butch gives that extra insurance for 10.

  • 342.Puma: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:01 pm

    @ufo(ufo)-323: I know just can’t understand why some always have to resort to insults.

    Will ignore him/her from now on…lol.

    How you doing UFO? Hope well. How are the nerves for our game on Sunday? Mine are almost gone…….hahaha. Always nervous for a game but now it it knock out time. Really hope we make it through.

  • 343.Gunther: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:02 pm

    @youknowwho(youknowwho)-306:

    langers.

    your willy is far too tiny for you to be black.

    which is why (apart from your startling resemblance to Hugo Chavez) you have to pay for your intimate moments.

    silly little toad.

  • 344.Slumtown: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:02 pm

    @wpstormerbok(wpstormerbok)-338: very glad to share the good vibes. I have loads of other recommendations if you like that. Just let me know.

  • 345.wpstormerbok: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:03 pm

    @justrugby(justrugby)-335:

    Maybe I should’ve kept to my own rule of not getting into a middle of someone else’s fight as the guy trying to stop it usually ends up with the black eye, or where I’m from the stab wound :-)

    I try to keep it civil when in debate with people, how other people interact with each other shouldn’t be my problem you’re right.

  • 346.Tacitus: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:03 pm

    One thing that is beyond a shadow of a doubt is that if we lose on Saturday, John Smit’s reputation will be completely ruined, as will the positive memories of what he has achieved to date.

    The public will absolutely crucify him, with me carrying a burning torch in the front ranks of the mob.

    He has insisted on continuing as captain – in the face of massive public criticism, and for him more than anyone else, it comes down to “judge me on the World Cup”.

    We all know Divvy is k*k, and we don’t expect much of him. But John has a much bigger reputation that’s at stake. And personally I think he misjudged the impact this would have on his legacy, or else he was blinded by his own overestimation of his abilties.

    For his sake, and ours, let’s hope the Boks can pull it through. But more so for his sake, because this WILL ruin everything for him if we are unsuccesfull.

  • 347.Stawm: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:03 pm

    @Staal(Staal)-186:

    Cleverest words I’ve read yet on this forum. I do the same thing.
    Choose your battles.

  • 348.J.B. Cowper: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:03 pm

    Good comments Ryan re: Smit – his inclusion in the start is all the more baffling given his diabolical performance – DIABOLICAL – not to mention irresponsible – against Samoa: on for three minutes, gives away free kick on slow lineout throw and yellow-carded for kicking ball way after conceding a penalty.

    The only thing you can say is he can’t play impact and at least Bismarck will come on instead of him, if you see what I mean. As long as it is not too late.

  • 349.Boksarenumber3: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:03 pm

    @>^..^< katman(katman)-327:

    who is *****?

    ***** = ?

  • 350.wooden spoon: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:04 pm

    Anyway, I’m out.

    BTW Cab, when I typed up my initial post I never really had you in mind.

    Grant10
    JustRugby
    RL
    Skopskiet

    yes, but not you.

    Don’t really know why you seemed to take it personally…

    Later.

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