KeoTV: Butch no impact player

KeoTV: Butch no impact player

6 Oct 2011

RYAN VREDE gives his thoughts on the make-up of the Springbok 22 to play the Wallabies on Sunday.


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  • 351.David: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:04 pm

    @ufo(ufo)-329:
    Yeah, I remember how everyone in the ’80s were declaring dead. Anyone who’s been involved in IT realises the massive contribution that Jobs has made, and not just to IT, DTP, music etc. but also to computer animated films with Pixar.
    It’s hard to think of anyone who’s had the impact in so many areas of the digital world.

  • 352.wpstormerbok: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:04 pm

    @Slumtown(Slumtown)-344:

    If you have the time you can make a quick list and i’ll add it to my note, usually I just download it throught the day and vibe to it on my way home or early in the morning.

  • 353.David: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:04 pm

    @David(David)-351:
    Sorry, that should read “declaring UNIX dead”

  • 354.youknowwho: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:04 pm

    @cane(cane)-319: You are easily pleased ;-) .. 29 seconds :lol: .. Campervan site?? :lol:

    Remember that rugby was designed to destroy the AB’s, the biggest threat to white supremacy. The RWC provides a stage to manufacture a victory for white supremacist. They only need to win one tournament every 4 years to sell their brand.

  • 355.Boksarenumber3: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:04 pm

    oh Keo has banned the word j-esus :)

  • 356.Puma: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:05 pm

    @Slumtown(Slumtown)-341: Yes was gonna say he is there to cover for JdV not only for injury but if he don’t shape up.

    My feeling if Lambie had to slot into 10 it would be like a duck takes to water. He is even better there than fb. But for now he is playing well at the back and he is a safe player there for us. So has to stay there.

    Did you see my post back to yours when you mentioned moving Burger to 8 and Flo to 7 with Brussow at 6. I thought it was a brillant idea that. Pocock will never get near our ball……hahaha.

  • 357.Boksarenumber3: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:05 pm

    @youknowwho(youknowwho)-354:

    Yet another racist scum :)

  • 358.David: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:06 pm

    @youknowwho(youknowwho)-354:
    So why were the Boks banned from the first 2 RWCs?

  • 359.Slumtown: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:07 pm

    @wpstormerbok(wpstormerbok)-338: Check this out – on the Wax on label from Budapest – more r&b hop in a way but such quality – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pun3KZiSSRY

  • 360.Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:07 pm

    @Puma(Puma)-342:
    How’s Mt Edgecombe?
    I had a longweekend at the dam the previous weekend:-)
    Pure bliss

  • 361.wpstormerbok: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:08 pm

    @Puma(Puma)-331:

    That would be the way to go I’d feel, as I can’t see John going full tilt for 80 minutes anyway.

  • 362.Gunther: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:08 pm

    @David(David)-358:

    sssshhhh.

    you will confuse him.

    langers only has a political interest in rugby.

    which is why his @rse and his elbow are interchangeable.

  • 363.Slumtown: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:09 pm

    @Puma(Puma)-356: Yeah I replied post 332. :) I also think Lambie will handle but it could be a bit much too ask – if he has a wobble he could struggle and with place kicking being so important I think its good thinking having Butch as backup.

  • 364.cane: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:09 pm

    @>^..^< katman(katman)-327:

    LOL.

    Jon C.

  • 365.youknowwho: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:10 pm

    @Gunther(gunther)-343: Pots and kettles??.. I told you before, dudes get to sell in Stevenage and the almighty remains suitably sized ;-)

  • 366.Boksarenumber3: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:10 pm

    @Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-360:

    Hey Fern what you think about Smitty the Fatty starting?

  • 367.John Galt: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:10 pm

    Alrighty.

    To the Bokke, I dont actually give a shart who plays this weekend. Im going to back you and back you all the way. Its not who plays but how you play thats more important.

    Dominate the collisions and dont kick good ball away. That is all.

    Bring it.

  • 368.wpstormerbok: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:11 pm

    @Slumtown(Slumtown)-359:

    Where do you get all this stuff, what part of the HipHop universe are they from?

    Usually when I dig for new material I always end up in a familiar place.

  • 369.Slumtown: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:11 pm

    @wpstormerbok(wpstormerbok)-352: haha – I have a massive list unofrtunately – I´m a complete music freak and across mutliple genres :) I´m a psytrance dj as well and used to play all the big festivals in Cape Town and around Sa. So i could carry on for days and days with recommendations from Trip hop to dub and drum n bass and all the way to industrial and country. lol I just love good music. Maybe we should connect in another way so we dont hassle all the rugger heads? Cos man have I got a big list of recommendations hehe.

  • 370.Slumtown: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:12 pm

    @wpstormerbok(wpstormerbok)-368: thats more leaning toward lounge and trip hop. as I say mutliple genres. But I always look for similar stuff with the same spirit.

  • 371.Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:13 pm

    @Boksarenumber3(Boksarenumber1)-366:
    I am 100% behind Our Beloved Leader and the team.

  • 372.cane: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:13 pm

    @youknowwho(The Nazi Hunter)-354:

    True Shaun.

    And let me tell you. It is good to easily pleased.
    Otherwise you could spend your life miserable, and become a malcontent.
    (ring any bells)
    8)

  • 373.Slumtown: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:15 pm

    @David(David)-351: I would say that his biggest contribution to the world has been Pixar because those guys have just opened up that genre in such a huge way and the moral undercurrent of Pixar movies is so great. I can happily let my 4 year old watch one after another Pixar movie because the intent and the message is so pure and the ideas are so good. Its something that simply cant be quantified.

  • 374.Puma: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:16 pm

    @Tacitus(Deucalion)-2: Absolutely Tac.

    If Lambie was at 10 then definitely we can have JDJ at 12 with Aplon at the back with Hougie on the wing. With JPP on the other wing. BUT if Morne is at 10 then no way can we have JdJ at inside centre mate. Then we have to have Butch to cover at 12.

  • 375.ufo: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:16 pm

    @Puma(Puma)-342:

    yeah bud.. i’m with you and have posted ad nauseum about why people need to a) trash one player to demonstrate support of another… and b) have to insult someone who has a different opinion to their’s… everyone’s entitled to their personal foibles… but not necessary to get so personal…

    boring i know… :roll:

    but also really enjoy the good natured banter that can cut close to the bone without drawing blood…!! :wink:

    Well thanks Puma and you??? Always well… believe attitude is a personal choice to make every day…!!

    Yeah… i’m nervous as all hell… can hardly sit still… i really believe we have the players to win it… and do believe starting js is the right move and have been saying from the start of the controversy that i’d always start with smit and then sub him off the park for bissy who could then wreak havoc in a more open game created by the inevitable tired legs as fatigue sets it…

    was chatting with ranger before the comp and we both said we think we can win the cup when most people were predicting we wouldn’t get through the pools…

    personally i believe experience is THE most vital ingredient for world cup success…

    so there will be people who say ‘i told you so’ should we lose on sunday… but i’m comfortable that we’ve got the best team and squad… and think pdvivvies done an excellent job and barring one or two players most of us would do the same thing…

    so can’t blame the coaches IMO should we lose… the guys just have to bring it… everything they’ve got… leave their DNA on the field… if they do… i think we’ll win comfortably….

    said long ago i believe aussie will win 2015 when their talented kids have more street smarts to go with their sublime skills… but think they’re not there for this wc…

  • 376.Michael: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:16 pm

    @J.B. Cowper(J.B. Cowper)-348: Baffling after his good performances against the Aussies and All Blacks back in SA? The problem with us Bok supporters is we have helluva short memories.

  • 377.cane: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:17 pm

    @youknowwho(The Nazi Hunter)-354:

    Destroy the AB’s.

    Not sure how you figure that out Shuan.

    If that were the case,
    NZ would never have been given Home Advantage.

  • 378.justrugby: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:19 pm

    @wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-350:

    Listen carefully, I take it as a personal insult that you might believe that I don’t support the Boks and that I somehow want them to lose so I can say to okes like you I told you so. Up yours man.

    I have been a passionate Bok supporter since 1976; I have followed them around the country and spent thousands and thousands of rands in test tickets, air fares and memorabilia supporting them over the years.

    I don’t need the likes of you (sharks first Boks second type) telling me what I am thinking or how I should support the team. I will criticize selections if I think they are detrimental to the Boks cause.

    So don’t come on here and try and label me a non bok supporter just because I don’t agree with Smit starting , screw you man, who do you think you are !!

  • 379.youknowwho: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:19 pm

    @David(David)-358: The racism was too blatant but even then just about every country including NZ welcomed tours to and from SA..

    Have you heard the story of Jesse Owens and how FDR refused to be seen with a black american hero. Even though the twats found a racist tag to be political suicide they could not stop themselves from being twats when they assumed nobody was looking.. Gunther is a lot like FDR.. His dad supposedly fought the Nazis but he gets pissed off with black achievement

  • 380.Puma: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:19 pm

    @Slumtown(Slumtown)-363: Jeez you know I hardly refresh the page. Just straight after submitting then just look to the above post and answer something there…….hahahaha. I miss many posts back to me.. So missed your answer back. Will check..lol.

  • 381.cane: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:20 pm

    @Slumtown(Slumtown)-373:

    So true.

  • 382.youknowwho: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:22 pm

    @cane(cane)-377: SA managed to be gifted a RWC freshly out of isolation.. How long did NZ have to wait

  • 383.wpstormerbok: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:22 pm

    @Slumtown(Slumtown)-369:

    Definitely man, I love to cut a few samples and lay a few drum patters down but ye when we connect I can give you more detail on that.

    You remind me of a guy from varsity, we did sound engineering together at city varsity 06/07. He was a big crate digger and part time drumnbass trip hop DJ, used to play sometimes and Longstreet at orchard at the time. Sometimes I’d go with him when he’d go looking for old records Malibu, back then I wasn’t really that deep into sampling though.

  • 384.Tacitus: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:24 pm

    @Puma(Puma)-374:

    That assumes that Butch is an effective defender, as opposed to just a flashy one-big-hit-two missed-tackles pretend defender.

  • 385.Slumtown: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:25 pm

    @wpstormerbok(wpstormerbok)-383: for sure – I probably dont know him cos I´m more form than 96 school hehe. drop me a mail at grproclean.es@gmail.com

  • 386.Puma: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:27 pm

    @ufo(ufo)-375: Good post ufo as always.

    I am just nervous as heck. I too think we doing the right thing by starting with Smit. Have always said it and will stick by that. Bissie will cause havoc with tired legs. We can weigh up the situation in front of us. If we need to bring him in earlier we do so, if not then bring him on for the 2nd half or last 35min. Wish Beast was there. He is not so have to forget about it.

    My support is behind the Boks all the way. Just really want us to make it to the semi at least. Want to see us playing ABs in a world cup again, especially on their soil. Would love the Boks to beat them in a wc on home soil that would be the ultimate for me. Then of course the cup…. :)

    Pity Fransie is out. I feel it is a massive loss. But JdV has everything to play for now. He has to step it up.

  • 387.Michael: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:29 pm

    @Puma(Puma)-386: Well said

  • 388.youknowwho: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:29 pm

    Got to go.. chat later

  • 389.Puma: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:31 pm

    @Tacitus(Deucalion)-384: For now we have JdV there. So hope he steps it up. Fransie set a bench mark there. With Morne we will always need a big strong 12 Tac. With Lambie we can have JdJ with Aplon at the back. That will be the future. For now Morne is there and he will play there until the end of this wc. So hope JdV has a blinder there. If not they will bring on Butch.

  • 390.cane: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:31 pm

    @youknowwho(The Nazi Hunter)-382:

    We didn’t wait long at all Shaun.

    We won the first one in 87.

    Oz won the 2nd.

    Your lot poisoned us at the 3rd.

    And we have had a bit of bad luck ever since.
    8)

  • 391.Puma: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:32 pm

    @Michael(mikeybrass)-387: Thanks buddy.

  • 392.wpstormerbok: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:37 pm

    @Slumtown(Slumtown)-385:

    Dropped you some mail now, quickly as a DJ from SA i presume, do you yourself do Chop & Skrew mixes or do you know of anybody in SA that does?

    I link with this guy from the States, think I can put his stage name here, DJ Chance Jones, you can hear his stuff if you look him up on reverbnation.

    Usually I send my mixes to him if i need some chops & skrews :-)

  • 393.Puma: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:38 pm

    @Slumtown(Slumtown)-332: Good post again ST. Agree.

  • 394.Puma: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:39 pm

    Okay I am off to lunch. Cheers all.

    Catch up later.

  • 395.Slumtown: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:40 pm

    @wpstormerbok(wpstormerbok)-392: No have no idea what a Chop and skrew mix is lol.

  • 396.wpstormerbok: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:48 pm

    @Slumtown(Slumtown)-395:

    You did say you’re from the real old skool :-)

    It’s a technique that was born in the South.

    You’ve probably heard it before, basically they drop the tempo of a track and at the same time you know the pitch will drop so everything sounds heavy. This is on the entire final mix, with instruments and vocals.

    After that they add their cuts and scratches with sick stretches at parts where you get the vocal along and things like that, guys like T.I sometimes release an entire Chop&Skrew version of their original albums.

  • 397.bananaboy: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:48 pm

    To assume that JS will damage his reputation beyond repair should the Boks lose on Sunday is rather prejudicial and let me illustrate. This WOrld Cup has the potential to go from being the “best ever” to one of the worst for every Kiwi supporter should England end up playing Australia in the final and Oz win. Does that necessarily make it the worst – NO however because of their own prejudices (:lol:) they may perceive it as such. The same argument goes for JS. Its only those with huge prejudices towards him that will consider his career/memory as a player being utterly destroyed should we lose. In their eyes he probably never had a career worth mentioning till now in any case.

  • 398.ufo: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:54 pm

    @David(David)-351:

    yes david… you’re absolutely correct…

  • 399.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:54 pm

    @Puma(Puma)-389: is it your estimation that butch is a better defender than jdj?

  • 400.Slumtown: Reply to this comment
    6 Oct 2011, 12:56 pm

    @wpstormerbok(wpstormerbok)-396: no hadnt heard of it hehe that sounds really dope. Will check out that dj´s page on Reverbnation.

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