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• 101.ufo:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:06 am

  Two things…

  Firstly…

  For all those who continually remind us that the boks are gonna get klapped for playing and starting john smit…

  I trust you will have the integrity NOT to come on here after the game on Sunday, if we lose, and say… “I/we told you so…”

  I can’t remember exactly who has said what… but many, if not most, if not all of you said or intimated we would not get through the pool stages of the world cup if we started smit… so you were wrong in the first place…

  Now you say we’ll get klapped by the aussies… and if we win you’ll say we were lucky and would have won by more if john smit had not played etc etc yadda blah…

  Eventually we will lose… could be Sunday… could be whenever… but it will not make you and your negative shoulda/coulda/woulda/if/but/maybe/perhaps theories any more substantive than they are right now today… simply your opinions… and not based on fact but based on your own supposition of what you believe would have happened had things been different… well… news chinas… things are simply what they are… no more no less…

  It’s also disingenuous of you to try and claim the moral/knowledge/expert high ground… because you make all your ‘factual’ negative shoulda/coulda/woulda/if/but/maybe/perhaps theories safely in the knowledge that your can never be proven wrong because it is impossible to prove retrospectively what would or could have happened… so while you’ll be quick to claim “we was right” just remember you haven’t proved anything… in fact you’ve hidden behind unprovable hypothesis to promote your feelings…

  As they say… even a broken watch is right twice a day and you will all be right… eventually when we do lose… you’ll claim then your theories were right… while simply ignoring the previous games that proved you all wrong…

  you rabbit on about john smit not winning anything but he won his last three games as captain… three out of three yessirree… he also made the highest number of tackles against wales… but you all insist he walks about the park doing nothing… so you ignore provable fact and promote non-provable supposition…?? How brave is that really…?

  Secondly…

  All the bissy worsphippers (isn’t that the term you give to people who don’t think john smit is evil personified…?) who believe bissy can play a full 80 minutes like the energiser bunny in every game he plays… despite being shown against samoa that, as good as he is, it’s almost impossible to play at that intensity for a full game…

  When john smit retires bissy will get the game time you all insist he should and will expect him to perform at the level he does for 20 or 30 minutes… and when he doesn’t I hope you don’t all turn on him like you have on john smit…

  I trust again that you will all have the integrity to stick by your man and NEVER criticize him for not producing the goods every minute of every game… And also please don’t suddenly criticize him for mistakes such as knock-ons, crooked throw-ins, entering the loose play from the side or penalties he gives away… in the present, you all ignore anything he does less than perfectly and simply focus on what smit does wrong… even if you have to make it up… such as saying he does nothing when he made the most tackles etc…

  I’m putting a marker down for you all to remember… next year or the year after… when the scales fall from your eyes… will you stick by your man bissy…? or will you put the boot in and turn your affections to the next best thing in town…?

• 102.Richie_7:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:08 am

  @Peter_Davies_must_never_cum_to_my_gym_at_Virgin_Active_CPT(p0ppa69)-95: Oi, give us the scoop on Peter Davies and the Virgin Active sauna incident

• 103.stormer in a teacup:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:12 am

  There once was a blogger called Tackler
  who as a knobend was rather spectakler.
  With an overwrought sphincter
  there was no-one distincter
  as a D o o s in the local vernacler.

• 104.Mighty Horua:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:14 am

  Spot on Keohane…..

  Wallabies by at least 10…..

  19-9

• 105.Boks_B_to_win_RWC_2011:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:17 am

  Hougaard to replace banana after 10 mins …. Hougie – Mr Rugby to score 3 tries ….!!

• 106.Puma:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:18 am

  @ufo(ufo)-101: Ufo buddy, absolute brilliant post. One of the best here ever. Agree totally.

• 107.once more unto the breach, dear springboks, once more...:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:19 am

  @Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-104:
  no man, don’t you know about the ‘keo kiss of death’?
  your teams gonna lose now that keo’s called them…its like clockwork, just ask around.

• 108.President_of_the_Sharks_rugby_experts:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:19 am

  @JamesNkomo(JamesNkomo)-100: @Puma(Puma)-98: well said u2 gentleman lol

• 109.stormer in a teacup:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:21 am

  UFO. Hear. Hear. Excellent post.unfortunately too many bloggers are too narrowminded to appreciate it.

• 110.justrugby:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:22 am

  Hi UFO

  It really has got nothing to do with liking Bissy or disliking Smit or being proved right or wrong,imo that’s all childish banter sh it ,it’s got to do with playing the best player for the Boks, Bissy is undisputedly the better player far more complete and what he offers Smit simply can’t, to deny this is to deny the truth ?.

  You by saying Bissy worshippers indicates to me you do not like him ? I will stick by him until he no longer delivers on the field, if that is the case I will call for him to go .

  For me being a Bok is about being the best and delivering the best, when Bissy can no longer like Smit deliver the best he must go, and the same should apply to any player.

  Again it’s not about liking anyone player hell none of us really know them so how can we like or dislike them !! But it is about the Boks and being the best no one player (read JS) has the right to that green and gold jersey !!!

  Off to breafast, till later !!

• 111.Puma:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:22 am

  @President_of_the_Sharks_rugby_experts(sharks_lover)-108: Dankie brudda…lol. Ufo’s post 101 is the best. Go read it.

  What you think of our new fb from the u21′s for Sharks this weekend? How you rate him to Viljoen that is coming?

• 112.JamesNkomo:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:22 am

  @ufo(ufo)-101: couldn’t have put it better myself – just looooooooong dude

• 113.ufo:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:22 am

  @Puma(Puma)-106:

  

  #justkeepingitreal…

• 114.President_of_the_Sharks_rugby_experts:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:23 am

  @ufo(ufo)-101: exactly bro

• 115.once more unto the breach, dear springboks, once more...:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:23 am

  @ufo(ufo)-101:
  riveting stuff man…riveting…

• 116.bananas:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:23 am

  @JamesNkomo(JamesNkomo)-100: Fair enough, ref JS his fitness is a concern and a big no no to TH.

• 117.poethklapp7:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:26 am

  Puma and ufo you are talking the business. Fck this negativity. Boks to walk it…

• 118.President_of_the_Sharks_rugby_experts:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:27 am

  @Puma(Puma)-111: gm brudda lol

  i am very happy for prinsloo, that kids going places , excelent FB and man with a big boot

  as for UFO , yeah i agree and have read it , we should’nt worry to much about Keo’s prediction for the weekend?? we all know by now to back against who ever he backs to win

  he just gave the Boks a one sided victory

• 119.Brads:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:27 am

  @ufo(ufo)-101:
  Extending your logic,

  NZ may continue to select Mils but we all know who is the number one AB 15

  If NZ scrape through to the final, your theory is the 15 jersey should still go to Mils?

• 120.President_of_the_Sharks_rugby_experts:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:27 am

  @poethklapp7(poethklapp7)-117: at ur nick name

• 121.Esoteric:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:28 am

  @ufo(ufo)-101: Post of the day IMO.

• 122.Puma:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:29 am

  @ufo(ufo)-113: Well done. Keep on doing it. Beautifully written post as well. Really enjoyed reading it.

  Written like that it makes people sit up and take notice. Hope it sinks in to some that can’t really see it or rather don’t want too.

• 123.rugbypedia:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:29 am

  This is like bad shopping channel advertising. “But do call now.” And shouting at the camera doesn’t make it any more clear.

• 124.bananas:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:32 am

  @ufo(ufo)-101: When Smit retires we will indeed see, however he hasnt yet and will continue to be pegged as no2 hooker in SA for me. The no1 hooker is Biz, and he too will be deposed which is very good news for SA rugby and is the circle of life …

  Get off your high horse, read through your lengthy post and apply it to yourself and JS as well !

• 125.Puma:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:32 am

  @poethklapp7(poethklapp7)-117: @President_of_the_Sharks_rugby_experts(sharks_lover)-118: Yip and today is Bok day. Not gonna let anyone bring our Boks down. We should all just stick together and keep supporting them.

• 126.ufo:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:33 am

  @justrugby(justrugby)-110:

  hey jr… how you doing bud…?

  you see the thing is i have never said i don’t like bissy… i acknowledge he is a great player… but i don’t subscribe to the school of thought that i you have to trash one player to promote another…

  is he the best hooker in the world…? that’s all opinion… really… it is just opinion… he does some thing better than smit and smit does some things better than him…

  smit… in my own opinion does the hooking basics better…. hissy does the hooking ‘extras’ better… most of us will talk of the necessity of doing and getting the basics right… but don’t inset that hissy has to do the basics right..?

  personally… and it is ONLY my opinion… i think smit is the better hooker… and hissy is the better loose forward… as a package i acknowledge hissy may bring more to the party… but until he does the basics better than john i would start with john and use hissy off the bench… this has been my stance since the controversy started… and it still is…

  for me being a bok is being the best too… bt because i don’t see it the same as you does not make it less so for me…

  but i believe in what is best for the team to be the best… and i believe smit is the best option to start…

  sure bissy will grow and mature… but for now it think smit is the best option for the team…

  @JamesNkomo(JamesNkomo)-112:

  sorry bud… thin is if you just try and make a point it always get s taken out of context… i don’t have all day to counter each counter point so tried to cover it all in one go…

  but appreciate you comment…

  @stormer in a teacup(stormer in a teacup)-109:

  thanks bud…

• 127.Brads:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:35 am

  I am picking Aus to win this weekend.

  Relying on scoring points via intercepts and penalties is a bit fragile to base a tick in the Bok column.

  Yes, defence wins RWC, but you need to have at least some ability to score points beyond cashing in on the oppositions mistakes.

• 128.poethklapp7:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:35 am

  @President_of_the_Sharks_rugby_experts

  Ja thanks it came to me when I saw quade for the first time. Bokke by 6. Toooo easy

• 129.Puma:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:35 am

  @President_of_the_Sharks_rugby_experts(sharks_lover)-118: I have hardly watched our u21′s. So will take notice when I watch our Sharks this weekend.

  For next year we need two equally good players in each position. So still pleased we have Viljoen coming even if this youngster is superb. Though will always back our own first.

  Now have to go out. Catch up later.

• 130.Gregs:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:36 am

  @ufo(ufo)-101: Well said UFO.I am confidnet that JS will do well and the team will do well.To hell with Keo and whoever is negative about OUR Boks. We are behind them 10000% (bankvas agter die Bokke).

• 131.Ratel Brussow:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:39 am

  Keo sucks balls. He has loved this Aussie side for ages and has never looked at any of their failings. Feeling better this morning having seen the Aussie team.

• 132.Esoteric:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:39 am

  Weather for Wellington on Sunday indicates a max of 10oC and clear conditions.

• 133.Puma:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:40 am

  @Brads(Brads)-127: How many tries did Oz score against Ireland? How did Ireland beat Oz? Their Forwards killed Oz. The master brain behind that was our very own and last forward coach for boks 2007 wc. Gert Smal. Boks play that sort of rugby better. Ireland were playing Bok rugby buddy.

  Defence wins games in a world cup. NO team has ever won by playing attacking rugby. Not ever.

  Boks anywhere from 1 to 7.

  We will see your boys in the semi.

  GO BOKKE GO.

• 134.Boks_B_to_win_RWC_2011:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:41 am

  Brads your farking hope the Aussies win .. you all blacks are moer scared to face the Boks without Carter!

• 135.ufo:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:42 am

  @President_of_the_Sharks_rugby_experts(sharks_lover)-114:
  @Puma(Puma)-122:
  @once more unto the breach, dear springboks, once more…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-115:

  thanks guys

  @Puma(Puma)-122:

  hehehe… thanks puma… but i wouldn’t count on it… it is just my opinion and sure these guys will stick to their’s…

  @bananas(bananas)-124:

  

  so… people can lay into smit in the most derogatory way with nothing to do about the game on the field or how he plays it… but anyone who backs him is on a high horse…???

  not logical to me… but… okay…

  and… one (or two) long posts from me is too much…? but YEARS of word-for-word endless repetition over and over and over again repeating exactly the same sentiments over and over again ad nauseum when everyone already knows exactly what the smit haters feel… is okay…? put them all together and i bet they make my post look like a footnote…

  but hey… i’m glad you got that off your chest…

• 136.Puma:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:42 am

  Cheers everyone. Catch up later.

  GO BOKKE GO.

• 137.ufo:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:46 am

  @Brads(Brads)-119:

  brads… i have said many times now i believe experience it the KEY factor for winning worlds cup… (all else being relatively equal of course…) so yes… as i have said several times since he was dropped… I would keep mils at 15 for thee world cup… because while dagga may act instinctively and do amazing things… when things get tight you need some to think rationally…

  dagga is great make no mistake… i’d find a place for him on the wing…

  and for the record… yes… mils is my current favourite all black…

  @Gregs(Gregs)-130:

  exactly… they are our boks… and i back them no matter what… no matter who gets selected… to the hilt… all the time… never a question…

• 138.>^..^< katman:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:46 am

  The Oz tight 5 is several rungs below the Boks. And apart from Pocock, their loose trio is also inferior. They make up for it in the backs, but not by miles. Cooper has brainfarts more often than not, and Jean and Jaque are capable of smothering anything that Barnes and Ashley-Cooper have planned. Their real danger lies in their outside backs, but I don’t think this will be the type of game that sees them too often.

  Gonna be tight, but I reckon Boks by between 5 and 10. Let’s call it 22 – 16.

• 139.Brads:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:47 am

  @Puma(Puma)-133:
  Yes, but Aus adapt. Ireland adapted better and took them by surprise.

  As for no team has ever won by playing attacking rugby – wrong. NZ did in the first event.

  However, that is not my point.

  You will need to have the ability to cobble together something better than waiting for mistakes to win this RWC.

• 140.ufo:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:47 am

  @Puma(Puma)-136:

  cheers puma…

  i gotta go too…

  see y’all in cyberspace…

• 141.RugbyStudent:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:50 am

  Does anybody else find KeoTV annoying?

  Keo, here’s a thought, how many times did Australia win Ireland in the last 6 tests?

  Keo makes me not want to drink Windhoek Lager, visit worldofsport or buy Butch James’ book. Get rid of Keo and I’ll do those things.

• 142.President_of_the_Sharks_rugby_experts:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:51 am

  @Brads(Brads)-139: the AB’s only won that title with no Boks to play against

  and like ur own Kahui said earlier in the week, if one of the top playing nations aint playing it aint a real WC

• 143.Dawn:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:52 am

  @>^..^< katman(katman)-138:

  “You have to break some eggs to make an umlaut”!

  

• 144.Brads:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:52 am

  @>^..^< katman(katman)-138:
  The danger of Cooper is not him playing at 10

  The danger is that he doesn’t play at 10.

  When the opposition have control of the set play he is playing fullback.

• 145.Boks_B_to_win_RWC_2011:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:53 am

  Argentina by 3!

• 146.Boks_B_to_win_RWC_2011:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:54 am

  @ 143 … dik troll allert!!!

• 147.chris_h:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:54 am

  Given that I have my seat booked at the Slug in Wimbledon for 5 thirsty GMT I hope KEO is dead wrong. I am nervous though; we unravelled in the second half against Samoa and if that is repeated then we are going home. But if we keep it tight and make FIRST TIME tackles – and Morne is pinging them over – then who knows. Knock out rugby is a different type of contest. Come on the Boks.

• 148.>^..^< katman:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:54 am

  @Dawn(Dawn)-143: Well, that’s what they say.

• 149.mako:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:55 am

  He he he, thanks Keo, you have just sealed it for the Bokke! I was really worried that you would pick the Boks to win on Sunday. Now I can really relax and look forward to the game. Go Bokke!

• 150.RugbyStudent:
  7 Oct 2011, 08:55 am

  Keo, what is your analysis on the Australian defense? What’s that? That’s what I though…nothing.

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