PdV quits as Boks crash out
9 Oct 2011
Peter de Villiers has quit after coaching the Springboks to a World Cup quarter-final defeat in Wellington.
De Villiers’ contract has expired and after a four year tenure marked by controversy and criticism, he will opt not to put forward his name as a candidate for the now vacant post.
‘Its been a brilliant journey and one that none of you [the media] can take away from me,’ he said. ‘There’s a time to come and a time to go. The journey is over.
‘I enjoyed it. I was in a privileged position to be able to contribute to my country. South African rugby is in a good state and will move forward after this.’
Asked how he wanted to be remembered, De Villiers said: ‘As the best me I could be.’
De Villiers ends his career with a 63% success rate, winning 30 of his 48 Tests. However, measured against the best in the world he has struggled. With the defeat in Wellington this evening his record against Australia dipped to four wins from 12, while he has won just five from 11 against the All Blacks.
De Villiers enjoyed the bulk of his success in 2009, winning a series against the British & Irish Lions, as well as the Tri-Nations. However, outside of that the Springboks have struggled, this with arguably the finest generation of players in decades at his disposal.
His loyalty to captain John Smit, despite the rise of the incomparable Bismarck du Plessis, has elicited severe criticism. He sought out Smit in 2008 while the Test veteran was contracted to French outfit Clermont, offering him the captaincy, then persisting with him despite Smit touching the ceiling of his potential in 2009.
Smit was liberal in his praise of De Villiers. ‘We’ve had a good four years. He isn’t a coach in the usual mould but one we’ve thoroughly enjoyed,’ Smit said. ‘He has given us leeway and space and tightened the reigns when he needed to. He is a great man and coach.’
De Villiers was appointed ahead of superior candidates, most notably Heyneke Meyer, in 2008, South African Rugby Union president Oregan Hoskins citing ‘reasons other than rugby credentials’ as the reason for the decision.
There isn’t a clear favourite for the post. Meyer has signed a long-term deal with the Bulls as their director of rugby and has indicated repeatedly to this website that he isn’t considering applying for the job. The Stormers duo of Rassie Erasmus and Allistair Coetzee are expected to toss their names into the hat, while others like Lions coach John Mitchell and former Saracens head Brendan Venter have been mentioned as possible candidates.
By Ryan Vrede, in Wellington.
695 Comments
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9 Oct 2011, 14:26 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-299:
How do you call yourself a Springbok supporter? All you do is b***h and moan.
I’m a genuine supporter. I support anyone who pulls that jersey on, especially if they deserve to be there.
You swearing every time you post shows your class. F this, f that. Pathetic really. Time to grow up pal.
9 Oct 2011, 14:29 pm
I’d say, even though these ratings are maybe a little harsh considering we lost (everyone would’ve gone up a point had we won) I agree in comparison to other players with all of them except Habana who was at least a 6.
http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/RugbyWorldCup2011/Our-gutted-Boks-How-they-rated-20111009
9 Oct 2011, 14:29 pm
HALLELUJAH
BEST NEWS FOR THE BOKS
IT WAS WORTH LOSING IN THE SEMIS
FOK JOU PDV
9 Oct 2011, 14:29 pm
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-302:
Oh and Schalk Burger should be at least a 9. Him and Pocock were by far the best players on the pitch.
9 Oct 2011, 14:30 pm
@cane(cane)-287: I though you stayed in hell, and Satan was 15km from you following the crow .. it doesn’t matter 2012 is here soon and this is your last chance to win Bill before the world ends.
9 Oct 2011, 14:30 pm
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-301:
You are not a true Bok supporter
piss off
9 Oct 2011, 14:30 pm
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-271:
Yeah, interesting times ahead. Wales and Aus with their young teams in the final are the teams to watch in the next few years.
AB’s and Boks have to build new teams. Fortunately for us there are a lot of young guys who aready had a taste of test rugby. All that needs to happen is for the new coach to mould them in a TEAM and play a new brand of rugby. This skop and jaag kak must stop now.
The interesting thing about the AB’s, is how quickly they bounce back after seemingly hard times like losing players. The only position they will have a problem in next year is at lock, I believe. Their scrum half situation has been there for a while now and they still managed to win 80% of their games.
…oh yes, they need to bring Cruden through.
What do I bet you they will be hitting their straps while we are still rebuilding. Unfortunately their don’t seem to be a EOYT this year. Would have been the ideal opportunity for the new coach to test out a new squad.
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-279:
Hendrik, how many times was FdP not in position behind the ruck when we could have had quick ball for our backs. I can, from the top of my head remember instances where JPP, VM, Habana, Schalk all passed the ball from the base of the ruck because FdP was not in position.At one time even Gurthro got ready to pass the ball before FdP arrived at the ruck.
If you want to be blind for his shortcomings in the last 18 months, you can go ahead and do it.
9 Oct 2011, 14:30 pm
@UptheGuts(UptheGuts)-298: Too right mate. Its the nature of the beast – the alternative is a boring cyclops machine and Federer (ding dong) Nadal! May the best team win take the crown – as long as its not QC and his kangaroos. He looks like a **** going down a kitchen sink, oops I didn’t say that, someone bumped my elbow…
9 Oct 2011, 14:30 pm
@Boksarenumber3(Boksarenumber1)-303:
Eventually, this happens to every coach. Helluva k@k job really isn’t it.
9 Oct 2011, 14:32 pm
Brendan Venter is probably too white, controversial, intelligent and a good choice to get the nod from the tools in charge. Would love him, however.
Mitchell, Mallet and Meyer would be excellent choices. Coetzee would be decent, but I’ve never been convinced that he’s able to breed a clinical, trophy winning team. Carlos Spencer for backline coach and Johan Goosen the golden boy.
9 Oct 2011, 14:32 pm
@Boksarenumber3(Boksarenumber1)-303: semis or quarters doos
9 Oct 2011, 14:32 pm
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-304:
Schalk gave away the only try of the match idiot
9 Oct 2011, 14:33 pm
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-300: Maybe Deans is too embarassed to call it?
I think skoppie and the rest of them want to vindicate the months and months of predicting this day of doom where reality is so far from it. If there was one player a finger could be pointed to then maybe Spies but he was duely substituted for Alberts. Whichs sorta points to the fact that everyone involved, even management, got it right for the most part. A forward pass here, a dropped ball there. Lambie missing a drop by inches. They just wanna say “I told you so” All it is
9 Oct 2011, 14:33 pm
@Boksarenumber3(Boksarenumber1)-306:
True. Real Bok supporters are the ones who tell everyone how useless all the players are.
I’m definitely not a Bok supporter for supporting them. It’s better to go the other way.
F0k off.
9 Oct 2011, 14:33 pm
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-300:
Oh comeon Hendrik. You are now misrepresenting Robie Deans. What he meant was that the guys played out of his shoes. That is why the Boks could not score because he successfully slowed our ruck ball. Part of the game and is not always legal. As Naas said you always play the ref.
9 Oct 2011, 14:34 pm
@UptheGuts(UptheGuts)-298: @hendrikp(hendrikp)-300:
Yip I was proud of how they all played.. every one of them played their guts out and put it all out there
However the collective was NOT enough.. it was close but fell SHORT of the mark.. and that was lost BEFORE they took the field today… ref blew it the way he saw it.. maybe right or wrong.. we blew it by conceding easy soft try.. whoever got that ball from Burger on the deck whether legally or illegitimately and same when Burger went for their try line it popped their side not ours..
So bottom line they tried and tried hard and valiantly put all their heart and soul and body on the line.. though it was INSUFFICIENT in the final analysis… and that is where one has to call the long term strategy to book and ask.. was this the ultimately BEST selection of personnel in the best rotating format and best prevailing strategy to win a WC.. I seriously have my doubts…
9 Oct 2011, 14:34 pm
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-314:
fok jou and die mal PDV
9 Oct 2011, 14:35 pm
@bokgat1(bokgat1)-311:
my apologies quarters, because if he made the semis he may have
wanted another 4 years, doos
9 Oct 2011, 14:36 pm
Boks deserved to lose
Fok Smit
9 Oct 2011, 14:37 pm
@Boksarenumber3(Boksarenumber1)-312:
David Pocock walked through the middle and kicked the ball out. If anything Heinrich Brussow failed to secure it, but it should have been a penalty. I don’t see what Burger could’ve done better.
But it’s okay, you guys like blaming the ones you’ve told your friends are rubbish.
Genuine Springbok supporter you are.
9 Oct 2011, 14:39 pm
@Boksarenumber3(Boksarenumber1)-318: You’re not the brightest, are you? I’m sure you’re good at something though. Like chopping wood, or mopping floors. There’s a place for everyone.
9 Oct 2011, 14:40 pm
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-320:
Burger ran the ball 5 meters from the Bok try line and lost it.
He is so overrated.
Anyway its not his fault we lost.
Its the 2 dumb scumbags
PDV en SMITTY
9 Oct 2011, 14:40 pm
@Peter Mkata(Peter Mkata)-315:
I have no issue with what Pocock did. He’s the best player in the world at the moment, I’ve been saying it all year.
But the rules are there for a reason. Bryce Lawrence should firstly not have been handed this game after what happened with Ireland vs Australia. Also not because of him being sat down by Paddy O’Brien after that game, and being heavily criticized for penalizing Australia too much apparently.
I would call that an unfair advantage to Australia right there.
9 Oct 2011, 14:40 pm
I don’t blame PdV, just as I don’t blame the **** accountants who leave others to double check their work (grrr) just as I don’t blame any incompetent person given work because of colour. It is unfair, but toy toying about it isn’t going to help. Life is there to be lived and complaining and bitching about the past/present will do nothing for your future.
Interesting times ahead of the Springboks, hopefully for once sanity will prevail.
If I get too moody I’ll just rewatch Khune faking a groin injury to waste time and then jumping up and down celebrating not qualifying.
9 Oct 2011, 14:41 pm
they played great – question is how many of the remaining team will be too old in four years time. Current 30 minus JdV, FdP and 2 locks – maybe Habana and mossie. Anyone else? Looks like the only thing coach criticizes himself about (not bringing in enough newbies) may not be correct. Maybe he is not so stupid after-all!!!
9 Oct 2011, 14:41 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-316: I think that was a fair post from you skop, i know unusual coming from me, I never doubted you to be a true supporter, just one i disagree with most of the time
9 Oct 2011, 14:41 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-321:
lol katman the moffie is back
m-onkeys have more brains than you
9 Oct 2011, 14:41 pm
Just returned from lunch with the in-laws! Even the roast potatoes didn’t taste the same. Not much different here I see. Let’s focus on the future as the past is just that – history.
I for one am glad the coach did the dignified thing and resigned. The captain followed suite, but that was a known fact.
We have some great up and coming talents. Mvovu, Sithole, Elstadt, Koster, Pretorius, Goosen, Divenhage, etc. These guys with Lambie, Fourie, Brussouw bodes well for us in the future. Just hope we get a good coach. Gutted I am, but no use crying over spilt milk.
9 Oct 2011, 14:43 pm
Patrick Lambie: 7.5
JP Pietersen: 5
Jaque Fourie: 6
Jean de Villiers: 7
Bryan Habana: 5
Morné Steyn: 6.5
Fourie du Preez: 6
Pierre Spies: 5
Schalk Burger: 7
Heinrich Brüssow: 5.5
Victor Matfield: 7
Danie Rossouw: 5
Jannie du Plessis: 6
John Smit: 6
Gurthro Steenkamp: 8.5
Relevant substitutes:
Francois Louw: 7.5
Bismarck du Plessis: 7.5
Francois Hougaard: 6.5
Willem Alberts: 7
If Bismark, Alberts and Hougaard would have started this game at 2, 8 and 9 and Aplon come on for Habana, with Louw on for Brussow.. we would have won the game…
Simple
9 Oct 2011, 14:43 pm
@Boksarenumber3(Boksarenumber1)-322:
Do you know what the word overrated means?
9 Oct 2011, 14:43 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-316: You should’ve just left it at your first line
“Yip I was proud of how they all played.. every one of them played their guts out and put it all out there”
I’m inclined to think that you must know and feel that as a supporter you can’t realy ask for more than this. They absolutely dominated this game. And you know that to be true. Maybe Div, as a parting gift, can tell us again how we won this game in all facets but the scoreboard. I sometimes wonder why Schalk and the other boys would even want to put their bodies on the line for folks like you.
9 Oct 2011, 14:44 pm
@Boksarenumber3(Boksarenumber1)-327:
Don’t know Katman at all and I’m not sticking up for him, but your comments are embarrassing. Burger overrated?
9 Oct 2011, 14:45 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-316:
Sentiment got the better of our common sense. We went to the world with injured players, awfully off form players, best hooker on the bench etc. I can go on and on.
One player I respect is Jean Smith. Doubt if he will ever reach the heights he did. Psychologically I think he is shattered.
9 Oct 2011, 14:45 pm
@Bill Reyts(Gumboots)-328: Hitler and his 2IC committed suicide and these guys only resigned? Oh sorry sh?t happens? Oh its just a game – ok sorry ok!
9 Oct 2011, 14:45 pm
FOK JOU PDV
FOK JOU SMITTY
So who will be the Boks next coach?
The Quota coach from WP?
9 Oct 2011, 14:45 pm
@Boksarenumber3(Boksarenumber1)-327: Go, you internet warrior. You really know how to put us in our place.
9 Oct 2011, 14:47 pm
@Peter Mkata(Peter Mkata)-333:
Juan Smith is a legend for sure. We missed him and Bekker so much.
9 Oct 2011, 14:47 pm
@Die_Valk(Die_Valk)-332:
YES
Burger gave away the only try of the match, 5 meters from his tryline.
Lol some of you guys are morons
We should be angry at this bullshit
We had all the possession and still we could not win
Its a disgarce
9 Oct 2011, 14:47 pm
@Boksarenumber3(Boksarenumber1)-322:
I’m not even going to bother. What’s that moron on youtubes name? Raynier or something? I can’t stand the guy… but from what I hear he’s making more sense then you lot.
We played a brilliant game. We lost because of the refereees interpretation at rucks. Pocock got away with murder. Good on him, but Lawrence had a shocker, and therefore Pocock had a blinder. End of the day Lawrence should never have been handed this game. It should’ve been a NH referee, considering that both NH quarters were SH referees.
In my mind, Smit will go down as one of the best Springbok captains of all-time. Also a true gentleman who did an excellent job taking over the captaincy from Krige who was an embarrassment alongside Straueli. He retires with his integrity intact. With respect. The players will remember him as a great leader.
PdV not so much. But at least he’s also leaving quietly. I believe he always acted in the interests of Springbok rugby. For that he deserves credit, even if sometimes he’d have been better off keeping his mouth shut.
And Fourie du Preez is probably the best scrumhalf we’ve ever had. Joost was a try-scorer, but FdP was a match-winner in his prime, and even at this WC, when not at his best, he was still a valuable player.
Bryan Habana is top try-scorer in Springbok history. Says it all.
And Schalk Burger, if you think Kiwis know their rugby, was MOTM out there. To my mind he should go down as one of the greatest, one of the very very very best Springboks to ever play the game.
The Boks lost, but I’m proud.
I’m off to bed. Everyone have a fantastic day.
9 Oct 2011, 14:48 pm
@bokgat1(bokgat1)-334:
9 Oct 2011, 14:48 pm
Personally, I wouldn’t back Alberts as the answer at 8, he’s just too slow covering the backline, as I noticed a couple of times today. For me there are at least 2 out of 3 assets that an international 8 needs: presence going forward and in the tackle, skill and speed. Alberts lacks the last 2, whilst all Spies has is speed.
I’d also keep Morne in the mix at 10, together with Lambie and Jantjies . Goosen needs at least a season of S15 to judge. Ebersohn should also be on the fringe, as well.
9 will be a major problem with no obvious young standout 9s at the moment, depending on where Hougie plays next year for the Bulls.
9 Oct 2011, 14:50 pm
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-339:
That is why this is called a blog! We have our own opinions. He was a legend, but went one season too far. Only my opinion but it is what I think happened.
9 Oct 2011, 14:50 pm
The interent has many virtues. Little angry kids behind their keyboards certainly isn’t one of them.
9 Oct 2011, 14:51 pm
@David(David)-341:
What about Catrikilis? Hehehe
9 Oct 2011, 14:51 pm
@Die_Valk(Die_Valk)-332: lol wouldnt worry about katman, he has the gift of the gab and have never seen any one get the better of him.
9 Oct 2011, 14:51 pm
internet*
9 Oct 2011, 14:51 pm
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-339:
We never played a brilliant game you moron.
We were on the Aussies line at least 5times and we got our ball turned over
every time
What game were you watching?
9 Oct 2011, 14:51 pm
@Bill Reyts(Gumboots)-337:
No doubt. How old is he now?
9 Oct 2011, 14:52 pm
@UptheGuts(UptheGuts)-313: Nobody is telling you I told you so.. That I already told you so long ago already.. its only slow thinkers like yourself that take forever to see reality dawn when you could have seen this exact scenario coming to fruition when it was already set in motion way back when… close but no cigar is NOT CLOSE ENOUGH .. even if they did play like their lives depended on it .. they FELL SHORT…
and the chief culprits of that falling short should sit up and take good note of the REASONS WHY..
Gees and do or die commitment will take you so far…. setting yourself up for a fail will only take you that far and not ALL the WAY.. so WHO really expected anything more than that… certainly NOT I..??
Obviously you did.. I knew a win today was nigh on a miracle carrying passengers that should not be there… Close you can call it.. unlucky .. maybe .. but NO CIGAR this time.. because THIS time we had to play one of the BEST and PREVAIL.. not a lucky packet Russian Roulette win like last time where nobody bothered to pitch up beyond the quarters..
9 Oct 2011, 14:52 pm
@Die_Valk(Die_Valk)-343:
Lol you conservative p-ricks are all over the earth
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