Burger stands tallest
10 Oct 2011
JON CARDINELLI rates the performances of the Springbok players and coaching staff following their unsuccessful World Cup campaign in New Zealand.
Ratings out of 10 are in brackets. The star performers in each category are in bold.
BACKS:
Back three: Frans Steyn (7) started to find some form at fullback before he was asked to step in at No 12. Steyn provided plenty of physicality and impetus in that channel, but his success must be viewed in context considering he played in that position against the minnows. Pat Lambie (7) started the tournament slowly, but delivered his most rounded performance in the quarter-final. Francois Hougaard (7) was the pick of the wings, mixing a mongrel attitude with a phenomenal attacking talent for spectacular individual attacking results. Gio Aplon (7) was similarly dangerous, although wasn’t used nearly enough over the course of the tournament. The two wings who were, Bryan Habana (5) and JP Pietersen (6), were consistently unimpressive. Habana became South Africa’s top try-scorer when he dotted down against Namibia but was otherwise largely ineffective. Pietersen had his moments against Fiji, but also battled to make decisive breaks and finish. Odwa Ndungane (5) looked ordinary even when he started against Namibia. Zane Kirchner is not rated as he didn’t play a game.
Centres: When the World XVs are compiled at the end of this tournament, Jaque Fourie (7) will be up there as the preferred No 13. His value on defence was evident in the first pool match against Wales and again in the quarter-final showdown with the Wallabies, while he combined well with Jean de Villiers (7) on attack in the latter game. De Villiers left the field early on during that Wales game and played off the bench in the Samoa clash, so his rating is largely based on a strong game against Australia. Juan de Jongh’s (6) two-try success against Namibia should be viewed in context, although there’s no denying he has a special talent.
Halfbacks: Fourie du Preez (6) mixed the measured with the erratic, executing well at some stages of the tournament, and missing the mark horribly at others. He looks to be past his best. Ruan Pienaar played so little rugby that it’s difficult to give him a rating. The man who usurped Pienaar in 2009 for the No 10 jersey also didn’t live up to expectations in many respects. Morne Steyn (5) wasn’t as accurate in front of goal as many would have hoped, and his woeful defence allowed opposition teams free passage through the flyhalf channel. He did nail a great drop goal in the quarter-final against Australia, but looking at the Boks’ campaign as a whole, his shortcomings on defence and attack let the team down. Butch James (6) did not get any opportunities at flyhalf, but turned in a solid defensive display at No 12 against Wales.
FORWARDS:
Back row: What better place to announce that you still have what it takes than on the biggest stage of all? Schalk Burger (9) looked the physical, sadomasochistic hulk of old, but also displayed a more subtle side to his game. His role as a ‘distributor’ in games against Wales and Samoa was influential to the outcome, but it was his ball-carrying surges into heavy traffic and some outstanding defensive displays (he made try-saving tackles against Samoa and Australia) that should be duly glorified. Heinrich Brussow (6) made some positive contirbutions without really dominating, as Sam Warburton won the breakdown battle in the big Pool D opener and David Pocock was the more influential openside flanker before Brussow succumbed to injury in the quarter-final. Francois Louw (6) did well when he was called on to deputise for Brussow, while Willem Alberts (7) was explosive in a bench or staring role. Pierre Spies (5) was consistent considering he failed to front for the big matches.
Locks: Victor Matfield (7) ended his illustrious career in terrific fashion. While he had a relatively quiet game against Wales and missed two pool games through injury, he rose to the quarter-final occasion, generating some important lineout steals as an individual and set-piece manager. Danie Rossouw (7) started this tournament strongly, but his overexposure at the top level in 2011 caught up with him in the latter stages. Bakkies Botha (5) never looked like the enforcer of old, while Johann Muller (6) was also limited by injuries.
Front row: Why wasn’t this guy starting? It’s not so much a question asked by myself than a question screamed by hordes of South African and international spectators every time Bismarck du Plessis (7) took the field. Every time Du Plessis came off the bench, he provided the Boks with go-forward. Peter de Villiers will argue that he is an impact player, but the Boks could have used his mobility, hard edge and breakdown skills from minute one. John Smit (5) tried his hardest at this competition, but was a poor impostor of the John Smit of 2007 and nowhere near the Bismarck du Plessis of 2011. Gurthro Steenkamp (6) and Jannie du Plessis (6) scrummed well, although the latter struggled in open play. The prop with the strongest game in general play, Beast Mtawarira (6) received few opportunities, as the Bok coaching staff favoured the superior scrummager in Steenkamp. CJ van der Linde (6) offered good impact from the bench, while Chiliboy Ralepelle (6) made the most of the few minutes he was given against Namibia during the pool stage.
COACHING STAFF:
Head coach: As the lengthy list of Bok assistants and consultants will show, Peter de Villiers (4) did not go to the World Cup to contribute in the technical department. From a management point of view, the senior players loved their coach because he allowed them carte blanche. He didn’t have the balls to make the tough calls when it came to selection, particularly in the areas of flyhalf and hooker. This weakness cost the Boks big.
Forwards coach: The forwards performed strongly at this World Cup, although the selection of Smit did undermine their cause at the breakdown. Gary Gold (6) did a solid enough job, but it must also be noted that he worked closely with Rassie Erasmus and veterans like Matfield in formulating the forward battle plans.
Backs coach: What has Dick Muir (2) contributed to the Bok game in the last four years? At the beginning of the 2008 season, he convinced De Villiers to favour an all-out approach that shunned structure, and when the players overturned this decision and reverted to what worked in 2007, it was almost as if Muir lost interest. In 2011, the Boks had a defensive coach, a kicking coach and a technical analyst to aid their backline’s development, and in areas like kicking and defence, there was a notable improvement. What failed to evolve was the Boks’ attack, as the poor try-scoring record will show, and Muir must shoulder some of the blame for the backline’s gross underachievement.
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10 Oct 2011, 16:16 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-137: i’m glad to see you’re not calling jdv “donkey” any more.
10 Oct 2011, 16:17 pm
@Sasuke(Sasuke)-114:
typical zimbos
always being illegal.
10 Oct 2011, 16:18 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-121:
And who, but the ExtraTerrestrial elevated and annoited him King David here in this RWC?
Who put the Youtube site showing how he monstered and physically devoured and belittled your Skunk who went for his face and eyes, but ended tapping, in submission, the King’s arm on his(Skunk’s) throat?
10 Oct 2011, 16:20 pm
@ET.(ET.)-153:
should read anointed
10 Oct 2011, 16:20 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-148:
yet it was him who called for the kick for touch in the wales game… it was him who got the guys together during the samoan game… it was him went over to chat to brussow when he was injured…
so which captain you gonna hand your @$$ to…? names and qualities…?
take the red-n-black shades off… luke’s not gonna be the cappie…!!
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-149:
hehehe…
fair enough HG… ditto my comments to transie…
10 Oct 2011, 16:21 pm
@ET.(ET.)-145: You are an absolute shameless piece of ****. If you never address me again on Keo I shall be very happy.
It is due to people like you that I hope and pray that the AB’s never win this tournament no matter how deserving they might be.
Cape Crusaders…? The best thing for you chaps is a firing squad at dawn, with no cigarette.
10 Oct 2011, 16:21 pm
@Gunther(gunther)-152: are you suggesting there’s something “illegal” about HG?
10 Oct 2011, 16:24 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-151: Yeah, he redeemed himself with his performance yesterday… I just wish he could have given a few more performances like that over the past year.
It is now time for JdJ to shine at 12 for Stormers. Please God give him the opportunity.
10 Oct 2011, 16:26 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-118: Whoever it is. Next time the captain for life clue should be ditched.
pick the captain that can do the job on the day. captain plusminus a season… and then who next, or re-vote. a captain should only be a captain. not a celebrity.
10 Oct 2011, 16:27 pm
@ET.(ET.)-153: Just **** off and expire. Take your “I told you so’s” and go and give yourself a cheap thrill in a quiet room elsewhere.
10 Oct 2011, 16:27 pm
@justrugby(justrugby)-147:
so jr… who would be on your possible captains list…? with a little motivation for each…?
10 Oct 2011, 16:29 pm
@shooter(shooter)-159: A Captain needs to be a constant… and should be 100% the best player in his position. Simple.
10 Oct 2011, 16:30 pm
@shooter(shooter)-159:
Well said !!
10 Oct 2011, 16:32 pm
@ufo(ufo)-150: Who are the other guys?
Schalk, Matfield were up there for me.
Followed by Gurthro, Jean, Lambie, Flo.
10 Oct 2011, 16:37 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-164:
can’t really remember now HG… but morne steyn’s name was there… i remember it because we all thought WTF…? (not saying he player badly but…)
10 Oct 2011, 16:40 pm
I think it’s time for a young fresh captain, ALA Wales Sam Warburton or a younger Smittie etc. If ever there was a time to bring a new captain now is it. Question is who?
10 Oct 2011, 16:41 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-164:
just checked up….
the final top three… this is ONLY fans vote….
schalk… 22%
pocock… 14%
moune steyn … 14%
i shhhhh…ittt you not…
10 Oct 2011, 16:41 pm
@ufo(ufo)-161:
Truthfully I have not given much thought to it, he must be a certain starter and must be in form.
Schalk, Juan, Bekker, imo the only 3 real contenders at this stage. They will all be starters and have captained before. But they must be selected only if they are in form and only for a specific period, e.g. for the England tour, if he does a good job and is playing well then he can be reselected for the 4 nation etc etc
Form, merit and success must be the criteria for the captain!!
10 Oct 2011, 16:42 pm
morne… damn predictive text… :angry:
10 Oct 2011, 16:43 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-156:
Coming from you, the one with no credibility let alone worthy principles, that is a badge of honour I will proudly wear.
Ah, the reactions of the shamed and stupid and arrogantly uncouth. Just what I was seeking, and drove you into committing. You are caught and now stuck in my web for the imbeciles of note. Enjoy your time there as you have been nakedly exposed as the non-S. African ‘Boertjie verkrampte’ and ethnic racist(“Are you ethnic black?”) you have been since that first Sunday you were encountered.
Note you provide no substantiations for wild claims, whereas I do(“ethnic black”) when I tag you.
Have you conveniently forgotten that I have predicted all four teams in the semi-finals and since my policy is any nation but the neo- … , any one of them winning it all means untold glory for me but especially the ALL ‘Blacks’, pinkish white pig?
Four for four, so say no more.
The aesthetic game of rugby union, just what I asked for, wins hands down here and you are still naked and ugly with the wrinkles and the shrinked.
Dead meat trying to rise like a Lazarus. Laughable!
10 Oct 2011, 16:45 pm
@justrugby(justrugby)-168:
hear what you saying and what shooter said…
but think a tour at a time may be just a bit too short a period… a loss or two and we could be changing captains every tour which would also not be good for bok rugby…
IMO….
maybe a season at a time…
10 Oct 2011, 16:47 pm
@ufo(ufo)-165: Steyn did his job, he played well like all of the Boks, but some played like warriors.
10 Oct 2011, 16:47 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-162: constant? you mean an absolute?
only play rugby. make F Hougaard captain.
10 Oct 2011, 16:49 pm
@ET.(ET.)-170: Like water off a ducks back, numbnut…
Talking about uncouth…its more than you deserve, quite frankly.
10 Oct 2011, 16:50 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-172:
sure… i stated many times we HAD to use steyn for this world cup… so not banging on the guy… just that a few others stood out… as stated by you…
10 Oct 2011, 16:51 pm
anyway guys… i’m outta here…
cheers all…
10 Oct 2011, 16:53 pm
@shooter(shooter)-173: Constant in that he sets the tone… But yeah I agree with you in a way about “only play rugby”, the focus should be more on setting the tone on the field rather than off.
Maybe the Boks go young with someone like Hougaard…or Lambie. Just taking thoughts for a walk.
10 Oct 2011, 16:56 pm
@ufo(ufo)-175: One thing is certain, the MOTM was Pocock whether we like it or not. No player had more of an influence on the game, rightly or wrongly. The peerless twat!
10 Oct 2011, 16:56 pm
Burger for captain. If you disagree, please state who should be, otherwise shut it. Name a more passionate, talented and authoritative role model. Exactly. You are dumb struck, ne.
10 Oct 2011, 16:58 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-160:
Devoured, like the Skunk by King David.
Please pass on the email to Helen(HG in Drag), better still read it in front of a mirror as her image will be observed by the object you serve to be.
Four for four and all exponents of the aesthetic game, so say no more.
Australia – Ella, Horan, Campese and more.
France – Rives, Dauga, Sella and more.
Wales – Cliff Morgan, B.John, JPR Williams and more.
New Zealand – M Jones, B Williams, D.Kirk and more.
Your vulgarity which exhibits your limitations thrills me to bits.
Just two more weeks. Just two more and we will know who the real RWC champs are but the order and balance in rugby union has already been restored, thus all is well again, especially in the ” Fairest Cape in all the World” where they hero-worshipped and still do all of Australia France, New Zealand and Walles for their rugby union, exquisitely played.
10 Oct 2011, 16:59 pm
Schalla was just as ineffective as any of the other runners. Tried to run over the Wallabies with nothing to show for it. Your welcome to disagree but show me the money. Robbie Deans attacked the Boks in their weak spot. Between their ears.
10 Oct 2011, 16:59 pm
Smit and Fourie du Preez were sh_it in the world cup and really disappointed. 3 for both of them.
Our supposed secret weapon Morne Steyn was so ordinary in the world cup. His place kicking (other than the final) was really good, but his defence was shocking and he could not get the backline moving in any threatening manner. Butch James quit his old team Bath because he was assured of a starting place in the world cup and then he only played once as a centre replacement. What a waste! 4 for Steyn.
Habana and Spies 4 as well.
Schalk deserves 10, and Birmarck 9 for their efforts.
I am glad that we will never have Smit and Fourie du Preez playing for the Boks again due to retirement, but I also hope that we never again see someone that really does not deserve their place like Habana, Spies, Muller, Chilliboy, Kirchner, Petersen and Morne Steyn.
10 Oct 2011, 17:00 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-178:
King David, Fool. Just say it as I wrote it all of last week and Sunday on the game thread.
10 Oct 2011, 17:01 pm
@Jinx2(Jinx2)-179: I second that. Burger for Bok captain.
10 Oct 2011, 17:01 pm
@ufo(ufo)-167: Interesting – was it only Saffa fans?
The vote should be:
1. Pocock
2. Schalk
3. Matfield
4. Horwill
10 Oct 2011, 17:03 pm
@Hell’s Game(Helen’s Shame)-174:
Always knew you are an animal but a duck is just too pretty for you.
Try HYENA.
10 Oct 2011, 17:05 pm
@Hell’s Game(Helen’s Shame)-185:
Now you’re into the Anal Tear?
10 Oct 2011, 17:07 pm
new bok team will be young for the next few years.
the pre-WC newcomers already facing challenges from the current and new currie cup players.
the Deysel, Marcel Coetzee, Taute, Goossen, Sadie etc etc, are all challenging for Bok places in the next 12 months.
a captain will have to have 20 to 30 caps, and he’ll be more experienced than the rest.
the new coach will actually be the most decisive decision, like always, with new coaches.
and winning results should hopefully keep the coach and the captain in their job.
10 Oct 2011, 17:08 pm
@ET.(ET.)-180: Got no idea what you are talking about, in what context… and why. I read the first sentence, only, and then decided to stupidly reply to you again… against my better judgement.
However I wanted to say 2 things:
Maybe address your post to some other Caped Crusader on Keo for appreciation or understanding.
If you’re looking for some sort of credibility w.r.t. having any idea about the Game played in Heaven, it is lost on me.
10 Oct 2011, 17:20 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-22: Great post HG! You should be a write on this site instead of these moegoes who “write” here!
Great imagery and powerful prose. I TOTALLY agree never must the “building for the World Cup” excuse be used. The coaching contracts should run from 2 years before to 2 years after a RWC.
Suggestions for your A N Others?
11. Movovo
10. Goosen/Ebersohn/Jantjies – I like these choices! Elton is really coming on.
9. Hougaard!
8. Vermeulen
My only question – why only 5 for Brussow?
10 Oct 2011, 17:28 pm
@Hell’s Game(Helen’s Shame)-189:
But you fit the bill of the ridiculous and imbecile so perfectly it would be difficult to deny me my posts to you.
Besides you wrote such a glowing epitaph with such hero-worshipping words of “ET is no fool” and “I am in the ET Fan club” (totally not invited by me) to David and more. How could I not reward such emotional warmth with my posts?
Accept your schooling. Just accept it.
Four for four, so say no more.
10 Oct 2011, 17:39 pm
@BringItHomeBoks(bokfan1)-190: Cheers man – anyone can do a half decent post or article when they don’t have an agenda. My post was selfishly more as a catharsis than anything else, but thanks for the compliment anyway.
Vermeulen is a good choice for 8 – I forgot about him. He and Alberts need to fight that one out.
Hougie is the obvious choice at 9 but I also like him as 11. He needs to choose now. I hope it is as an 11.
Mvovo is a very good runner but has some severe technical deficiencies: passing for one, and he hasn’t got a decent chip or boot at all. But these are things that he can build on.
One thing is for sure, when you look at all the options – the Boks have the talent and ability to be an 80% win record team. That has to be the goal.
Brussouw got five because he was dominated and made no impact on the game. Not for lack of trying, sure, but compared to Pocock he was insignificant when on field. But maybe 5 is a bit harsh.
My 5 also does not mean I dont rate him, he is needed for our future Bok side. And he will have better games. Its just that in the overall context of the game yesterday he was outmatched.
10 Oct 2011, 17:44 pm
@Hell’s Game(Helen’s Shame)-22
” The Boks were proud losers in a game …. ”
But you are down the wrong road again because you have driven yourself stupidly into an ethnic, sectarian, stereotyping corner, especially, but not only, with the Kiwis.
The Aussies played their final on Sunday past. They cannot peak again as they have done that, at least, twice already this unfinished season.
Helen(HG in Drag) said much the same thing(the quote) on the other thread before you came to hide here.
She also claimed to influence the economy concerns in Europe but is supposedly in JHB. But you are in Europe and have made such claims too to David. Strange but true.
10 Oct 2011, 17:59 pm
@ET.(ET.)-191: @ET.(ET.)-193: Jeez, you’re trying hard… Its lost on me though. I read the first sentence of your posts and dont bother to read the rest.
All I have to say, which says it all…
You are an AB supporter yet you are Saffa born… A ****** rugbywhore who does not have a clue what supporting a national team is all about.
An random analanachronism of not only rugby stupidity but life stupidity too. Clueless. End of.
10 Oct 2011, 18:23 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-101: Pocock is the new McCaw, he can come in from the side, do whatever he wants. Any player that can operate outside the rules can outplay their opponent! Pocock was nothing special in reality, simply illegal.
10 Oct 2011, 18:43 pm
Guthro Steenkamp is the World’s top loosehead.
Just carried on where he left off in 2010
10 Oct 2011, 19:11 pm
@Hell’s Game(Helen’s SHame)-
{{ ” The best thing for you chaps is a firing squad at dawn, with no cigarette ” }}
Quite amazing what a loss at a game of rugby can do. I never have had need for a smoke ever and you stupidly forget who owns the military hardware in the new(but not whole) South Africa- again the fool.
Merely again a sick expression of your sicker ‘nationalism’ and pathologic patriotism.
Let me call on the genuine THINKERS to help you get off your path to destruction:
” Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind.”
I find this medical science approach quite fitting and acceptable and for the one to follow.
Further:
” He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would fully suffice. This disgrace to civilization should be done away with at once. Heroism at command, senseless brutality and all this loathsome nonsense that goes by the name of patriotism, how violently I hate all this, .. ”
Futhermore, since only FOOLS invest in social evils such as stereotyping, ethnic slurs, sectarianism, racism in all its forms and more, just read and think clearly (if you can) the words that follow:
” Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex… It takes a touch of genius – and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction ”
You are intelligent but also the fool and make things more complex and unbearable and do not ever reflect a touch of genius.
Only a fool cannot understand ” any nation but the neo-racist, until full non-racism reigns ” and worse still indulges in distortion of that in such a childish, immature fashion.
I on the other hand move in the opposite direction ( the “alternate view” – your words) which is the direction of TRUTH. And that is the road I will always follow. It is noble. Even the great thinkers have agreed and will agree.
10 Oct 2011, 19:33 pm
Here’s my take:
The Springbok coaching team was caught out. You cannot win a RWC without only your very best players. There are a couple of players who simply are not good enough to play at the very highest level.
What went wrong?
1. The fact that we lost Frans Steyn is probably the biggest loss. With Steyn at 15 the opposition is forced to change tactics. You cannot risk kicking to Steyn anywhere from his own 10 meter line.
2. Morne Steyn. Pedantic at best. A very average Bok, the worst defender since Naas.
3. Fourie du Preez. A genius and still young enough, but probably not recovered from injury.
4. Habana. Still young enough, but not even remotely in Hougaard’s class. Comparing Habana to Hougaard is more or less like comparing Deon Oosthuizen to Carel du Plessis. Hougaard IS the new Carel. The best 11 on the planet.
5. Pierre Spies. He simply is not strong enough to be a Bok forward, and he doesn’t have the hands or the rugby brain for a Bok 8.
6. John Smit. A bridge too far. Bismarck is the number 1 hooker in the world, but he can’t make the Bok starting 15? Rediculous.
The way forward:
1. Find a decent flyhalf. My money is on Goosen. He has it all. He is in Frans Steyn’s class. He is young and can play for the next 10 years. Pick him NOW.
2. Get rid of Spies as quickly as possible.
3. Decide on a understudy for Jan de Villiers. Is it Sadie or is it De Jongh? Both can do the job.
4. Pick Janno Vermaak or Dewald Duvenhage at 9.
5. Start building a new lock combo. Hopefully Flip can make it.
6. Appoint a decent coach. I don’t think Allister can do the job. WP and the Stormers have been found out tactically by teams with less talent. It comes down to coaching. They should seriously consider Brendan Venter or Nic Mallet.
An interem team should look something like this:
15. F Steyn
14. JP Petersen
13. J Fourie
12. J de Villiers (substituted by Sadie or De Jongh after 50 minutes for 1 year)
11. Hougaard
10. Goosen
9. Duvenhage/Vermaak
8. Burger (potential c)
7. Smith (potential c)
6. Brussow
5. Johan Muller (?) Problem area
4. Flip van der Merwe (?) Problem area
3. Jannie du Plessis
2. Bismarck du Plessis
1. Beast
10 Oct 2011, 19:35 pm
@ET.(ET.)-197: Do me a favour…
Go buy a revolver and just one hollow-tipped bullet at your local Wal-mart…
Load bullet into revolver…
1. Spin revolver…
2. With right hand steady, point barrel of revolver at right temple…
3. Squeeze trigger…
And repeat from 1. to 3…..until you get what you deserve.
(and every Caped Crusading AB supporter from “Greater Cape Town” or anywhere else in SA can do the same, preferably in perfect synchronicity)
10 Oct 2011, 19:53 pm
some schmucks on here still think they are the f’ng be all and end all knowing fundi’s on rugby whereas it was PRECISELY because they are NOT and punting what was an accident waiting to happen that the accident ACTUALLY DID.!!!
Smit should NEVER have led this team in this WC campaign.. biggest f’ng mistake of ALL mistakes…
All this bullshit propaganda talk that he gonna captain off the bench and put the team first ahead of his aggrandized ambitions and ALL the f’ng rest did NOT materialize..
When push came to shove, Smit, Spies and FdP started all the big games.. apart from Samoa … and END result .. we are OUT ..O..U..T..OUT !!!
Dumb fck klutzes ignoramus dunces that you ARE.. You couldn’t SEE it happen before your f’ng mesmerized fckd up eyes and you STILL cannot understand why Boks are OUT… O..U…T…OUT !!!
This HG schmuck and some his clever d’ck compatriots pretending they KNOW about rugby.. while ALL their pre game suggestions PROVED they are WRONG
This HG schmuck could NOT ever have a decent word to say about JdV and F. Louw.. now he praises them to the rooftops… meantime some here like myself would ALWAYS have played them in my 22
FdP. Smit and Spies more ore less in that order are the reasons Boks are no more and OUT this WC campaign.. But some you dunbfck klutzing schmucks STILL cannot fathom where the fck we got it so Dumbfck WRONG !!!
The team should have started Sundays game like this…
Lambie
JPP
Fourie
JdV
Habana
Steyn
Hougaard
Alberts
Burger
Brussow
Matfield (c)
Roussow
JdP
BdP
Steenkamp
Beast, Smit, (CJ), Spies, Louw, FdP, Aplon, (De Jongh)
IF we were down at half time following players should have taken the field
Louw & Aplon for Brussow and Habana
Smit, FdP, Spies I leave for LAST as just in case insurance policies.. You try take on youth with youth and vigor with vigor
Spies would be an advantage last 1/4 fresh legs addition… Smit and FdP ONLY required if the starters of Bismark, and Hougaard cannot cut it
As for Burger’s contribution.. he puts in massive monumental effort along similar lines to Bismark and don’t stop gunning for 80 minutes.. same as Steenkamp did on Sunday.. in fact same as whole team did on Sunday..
Except Burger is NOT the go to man.. this idea that Burger MUST be a part of EVERY line movement and EVERY assault on defence is WRONG.. and stuffs our game to High F’ng Heaven..
Yet you schmucks STILL cannot see it
WTF was Burger THINKING taking a defensive ball under his posts to ground and NOT protecting it.. a first 1/4 try to Wallabies was the direct result….
And some schmucks here still wanna believe this man can do no wrong… no wrong… no wrong… no wrong… same way as they were so FUNDAMENTALLY believing that John Smit and FdP could do No Wrong… no wrong… no wrong … no wrong… and LOOK where the fck it ACTUALLY GOT THEM
OUT the World Cup in the Quarters… playing this Dumb Fck archaic slow man to the breakdown dance… Thats what Fckd Boks UP… Smit, Spies and FdP LOST BOKS the RWC !!!! get it THROUGH your THICK dumb fck Koppe..FOR ONCE!!!
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